AZ previously planned even to operate 12 weekly flights starting next summer.
AMS provides direct services to Rome, Milan, Venice, Bologne, Naples, Florence, Pisa or Verona. Considering that Turin is the 4th largest Italian city located in a rich and industrial area I wonder how a skyteam link to Schiphol cannot be succesful. To close from MXP ? Not enough frequencies to cover efficiently the hub ?
eta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2016 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
TRN is suffering a lot more than other Italian cities with the economic crisis. The provinical Govt. may be disbanded and FIAT's TRN operations are now much smaller. Therefore, low demand is probably the reason for the above flight to be terminated (however, CDG remains).
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19265 posts, RR: 63 Reply 3, posted (6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1783 times:
Honestly, I'm a bit surprised by this, as KLM's Schiphol hub has more robust schedule to DTW than AF's CDG hub, connecting the Fiat HQ with their American subsidiary, Chrysler. Or perhaps that market isn't as heavily-traveled on commercial aircraft as I would expect it to be?
wAC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 253 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
Skyteam lost a lot of contract in the provinces outside Milan and Piemonte area after AZ de-hubbed MXP and even more when AF and KL withdrew from MXP. Skyteam's fortress is LIN and businesses in Milan while BA and LH/LX have dominated the lucrative business and EU buinesses from Torino, Novara, Varese and Como areas and to some extent EZY.
flyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 415 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
TRN has always been a difficult destination from AMS.
I remember when I'm started working for KLM in 1999, KL operated 3x daily with the F70 to TRN and the flights where always low in loadfactor with an average of 25 to 30 passengers.
So for me it's not surprising that TRN is dropped again.
Alsatian From France, joined May 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1443 times:
Thank you for the replies.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2): I flew an Air France A318 TRN-CDG last month: loadfactor 7% (6 passengers)
Quoting flyingfool (Reply 5): KL operated 3x daily with the F70 to TRN and the flights where always low in loadfactor with an average of 25 to 30 passengers.
I didn' t imagine so poor loads for such a large city.
airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3104 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1403 times:
Quoting MH017 (Reply 8): Meridiana does not operate into/from AMS anymore; in fact no direct flights to/from FLR anymore...
Thanks MH...I figured the landscape had changed since then, but didn't know it had gotten to that point.
Frankly, all I remember was getting on the plane in Firenze (still hammered from the night before)...and getting off in AMS. I remember nothing of the Turino stopover. In fact, to this day, I don't ever recall being that inebriated. I hope to never get to that point again....oye
konrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1353 times:
Quoting eta unknown (Reply 1): TRN is suffering a lot more than other Italian cities with the economic crisis. The provinical Govt. may be disbanded and FIAT's TRN operations are now much smaller. Therefore, low demand is probably the reason for the above flight to be terminated (however, CDG remains).
LOT terminated their KTW TRN KTW service as well. There is a Fiat factory some 60 km away from KTW which is doing badly with some massive layoffs announced.
In addition KLM codeshared with MERIDIANA for many years, but swapped to AZ when AZ entered the AF/KL/AZ joint venture. As soon as AZ commenced operations MERIDIANA withdrew from the route.
flyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 415 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
Quoting factsonly (Reply 11): Alitalia has repleced MERIDIANA on the FLR-AMS-FLR route and operates the route 2x/day in Summer and at a slightly lower frequency in Winter:
Correct, I'm sure some airline is operating FLR-AMS currently as yesterday we had some passengers which could not make their connection on the MH flight from AMS to KUL because the FLR flight was delayed by around 3 hours, arriving at the departure time of MH017...
MOW From Italy, joined Dec 2005, 179 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 962 times:
AZ has terminated its thrice weekly TRN-SVO service in SEP. I guess they were counting on FIAT business development in Russia when they inaugurated the route some 3 years ago. Unfortunately, FIAT plans to start local production never materialized. It is sad that AZ could not keep the route at least seasonal - lots of Russians go to Europe to ski in winters.
IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2405 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 900 times:
TRN seems to have really been hit hard judging by all the comments on here.
Sad to see really, especially given that it hosted the 2006 Winter Olympics but hasn't really seen the benefits since. Thats not an unusual trend though to be honest.
Given that FIAT and Turin are so closely linked, the knock on effect will hit them hardest.
Aquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 220 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 830 times:
With the completion of the Malpensa Highway and its connection to the A4 Milan -Turin, it makes more sense to get to MXP. East neighborhoods of Turin get there in something like 1 hour, probably faster of Sud of Milan
While under served by AZ and the Sky (better so, in my opinion), there you still get direct flights to many world capitals and main cities from their local operators. Without the nightmare of connecting in FCO or CDG.
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