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BA 777 Catches Fire At DEN During Refueling  
User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7747 times:

I keep catching the tail end of news reports on local Denver stations about a fire involving a British Airways 777 during refueling. It sounds like the plane did not suffer any significant damage, but the flight is cancelled for tonight. Any additional details are welcomed.

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7484 times:

Wow! That's news to me. Keep us posted, if you please Mark. Regards.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

Whoa.............

First BA incodent in DEN I recall?



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7562 times:

From KMGH in Denver, CO:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/news/stories/news-94735720010905-180943.html

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7395 times:

Okay thanks......


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

Oh boy, it looks pretty serious from the picture..... Insane


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7284 times:

Yes, it looks serious to me too. Hope that ramp agent is not badly hurt. Did anyone see a tail on that 777? I know that photo is dead-on center. Or is my eyes playing tricks here? I certainly hope this 777 is not the first write-off of its kind. Regards.


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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7286 times:

It does look serious. Let's hope it will not be a write off and the guy get well soon.

alvin



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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6588 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

Why does it look serious? Can you enlarge the picture? because I can't see any fire damage at all. Where are you all looking?

User currently offlineClimbout From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

What a mess. Imagine the passengers viewing such an event from the terminal window.

User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7129 times:

Just an update after watching the local evening news coverage here...

The aircraft had just started to undergo refueling as the last remaining passengers were deplaning when the fuel truck became engulfed in flames. Shortly afterwards, a fireball estimated by witnesses to be 25 feet high and about 20 feet wide had enveloped the left wing of the aircraft. Ground grews did an outstanding job of knocking the fire with extinguishers down before ARFF arrived and extinguished the flames. The source of the fire is unknown and will be investigated by the Denver Police Department (this is classified as an industrial accident).

The aircraft had some minor damage under the left wing and some sooting of the enging cowling, but nothing serious. One ground crewman suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns over 90% of his body and is listed in critical condition at a local hospital.

Passengers who could not make alternate arrangements will stay overnight in hotels and likely be on their way again tomorrow.

This is the first significant incident at Denver International Airport since it's opening.

A on editorial note, I was really annoyned at the passengers that were interviewed on the local news channels here. A man nearly burned to death in front of their eyes and all they are doing is pissing and moaning how they are going to get to London a day late. If I had witnessed the incident I know I would have a hard time sleeping tonight...and not because my vacation started a day late. My condolences to the crewman and his family...

Mark Abbott
Minneapolis, MN



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7113 times:

YES, VERY SERIOUS. This 777 may be a W/O due to a dirty wing !!!!!.

Why do you all say it looks so serious ?, What damage can you see ??


User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7100 times:

If the fire heated the wing enough to affect the temper of the alloys used to construct it, the aircraft is a write-off for sure.

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11211 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

242, there was a ground incident with a US 767 where an engine exploded, sending pieces through the wing. The last I heard, the plane is getting a new wing. If that aging 767 wasn't written off, there's no way this newer BA 777 would be written off.


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User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7053 times:

How can you tell me about NWA DC-9 replaced total new wing? NWA DC-9 accident in DTW fog while taxing into wrong on the runway. NWA DC-9's wing is total damaged. The Air Canada landed emergency in CVG. The aircraft is total damaged. Air Canada DC-9's wing is fine. They pulled out the wing and put into NWA DC-9 new wing on it. I bet they can replace new wing of B777. I doubt that written off for the newer B777. The aircraft body is more expensive than the wing!

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User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7050 times:

242, there was a ground incident with a US 767 where an engine exploded, sending pieces through the wing. The last I heard, the plane is getting a new wing. If that aging 767 wasn't written off, there's no way this newer BA 777 would be written off.

I've heard that US Air 762 was written off, but I will agree a new wing for the 777 is a distinct possibility, although it'll be out of service for months just awating parts, much less the huge job of removal/installation.



User currently offline242 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 498 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7039 times:

"The aircraft body is more expensive than the wing!"

I don't think so. Fuselage sections are relatively simple compared to the wings. Ever been inside a 767 wing (fuel tank)? I have. It's a very complex and impressive structure to say the least.



User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7029 times:

In case the aircraft was damaged, will the Denver Airport Authority be responsible for the expenses British Airways will have to make to repair the aircraft?
The aircraft is insured, I'm 100% sure about it but still I guess DAA will cash out for this.


User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

Well, the aircraft was being refuelled when there are still some passengers onboard. I thought they were not supposed to refuel the aircraft when there are passengers onboard? Maybe one of them used his/her mobile phone.

alvin



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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7005 times:

The aircraft *should* be G-VIIK which operated the outbound sector from LGW.

Regards

Paul


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6997 times:

Well the UK News people don't think it's serious as they aren't reporting anything. Only Capital FM Radio (london England), are reporting from a Denver News Helicopter.

This is a very serious incident. There seems to be a spate of incidents involving fuel recemntly. An investigating I think is going to be launchd obviously and I hope British Airways get down to the cause of the problem. A very tragic and sreious incident.

Does anyoone know if the Jubilee will be written off?



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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6976 times:

Just a little note, only Singapore Airlines's B777s are named Jubilee. It does not apply to other B777s.

alvin



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6937 times:

Hey Alvin! Sorry, force of habit.

Anyway, no UK News Channels are reporting



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6921 times:

Does anybody know if they used tankers or hydrant trucks at DIA?

Chances are if it was a hydrant truck the only fuels involved would be the fuel in the hoses and the filter vessel and the trucks own gas tank.

From the description on a single 25 foot bust of flame it sounds like it wasn't a big explosion. Chances are the skin wasn't heated enough to damage it. They will probably test it-(Eddy current????) to determine if the temper of the metals changed.

From that lousy photo on the link provided by Brick it doesn't appear that the airplane was badly hurt if at all. Most of that mess is from the AFFF that the fire trucks sprayed on the refueler and the aircraft to douse the fire.



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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6905 times:

It's kinda weird UK doesn't reports this. I guess they will sooner or later as I have got a mail from Ananova about this incident.

More importantly, how was the guy that was seriously injured? I hope he will get well soon.

alvin



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25 VgnAtl747 : Interesting. I don't reacall of anything like this hapening lately. Best of luck to the injured ground worker.
26 Post contains links LoneStarMike : More from the Denver Post: Worker badly burned in fuel blaze at airport 09/06/2001 http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53%257E135800,00.html Lone
27 CrewChief32 : He did fuel the plane from a crane 50 (!!!) feet off the ground????? What did he fuel? The tail?? And then he jumped down??? He then should have more
28 RayChuang : I don't think the plane is a total write off just yet. If there is thermal damage to the wing from the fire the plane may be moved to the (UA?) mainta
29 Tom in NO : The City of Denver (which operates the airport) would not be responsible in this case, nor would they be liable for damages to the aircraft or for rep
30 BCal DC10 : here's another piccy of the BA 777 for you. Scroll down to get to it. Its the first UK news item I've found on it... http://www.itn.co.uk/world.shtml
31 DIA : So what happens to those "hundreds" of pax who didn't have a plane to get on? Do they just book them on other airlines through other cities that can g
32 GOT : I think that the passengers are booked with connecting flight, probably AA, to other airports that BA serve. GOT
33 Jaspike : What's the big deal??? You all talk about it, like it's life threatening!
34 Donder10 : Well it was Jas, as a fueler nearly got burned severly in it.
35 Donder10 : From ITN: "The plane had landed normally and nearly everyone had disembarked when the fire started," said a BA spokeswoman.'' ''The emergency service
36 Post contains links B757300 : Here is a video about the fire. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/news/stories/news-94735720010905-180943.html
37 BA : If you watch the video clip, you will notice that on the wing, right next to the engine pylons is where it was damaged. It looks pretty serious to me,
38 Post contains images 777236ER : With 90% 2nd and 3rd degree burns, i don't think he's gonna make it. He'll most likely get a serious infection in a few days, as happens with a lot of
39 Kevin : 256 passengers on a Wednesday flight. Seems like London Denver route is a good one for BA!
40 BA : Kevin, Yeah, this flight needs the 744 back. Unfortunately, since BA moved all there 744s to LHR, they were forced to downgrade this flight to a 777.
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