KarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15170 posts, RR: 44 Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14855 times:
FedEx buys another four 767 freighters:
Quote: SEATTLE, Dec. 19, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] and FedEx Express, a wholly owned subsidiary of FedEx Corp., today announced an order for four 767 Freighters. The order is part of FedEx's initiative to modernize its fleet.
"These additional 767 orders will help accelerate our fleet modernization program as we replace our aging MD-10 freighter fleet," said James R. Parker, FedEx Express executive vice president, air operations. "These new 767s will provide significantly improved reliability and are substantially more fuel-efficient than the aircraft they will replace. They will be an excellent addition to the FedEx fleet."
The addition of the 767 Freighters will enable FedEx to replace its less efficient medium widebody cargo airplanes with freighters that provide fuel, maintenance and other cost savings. The freighters also increase efficiency by sharing spare parts, tooling and flight simulators with the Boeing 757s that are part of the FedEx air fleet.
"The 767 Freighter is an ideal fit for FedEx Express," said Brad McMullen, vice president of North America Sales for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "It will provide a more efficient freighter for FedEx Express's fleet modernization efforts and help align its network with anticipated cargo volumes."
The 767 Freighter is based on the popular 767-300ER (extended range) passenger airplane. Able to carry approximately 58 tons (52.7 tonnes) of revenue cargo with intercontinental range, the 767-300 Freighter is ideal for developing new long-haul, regional or feeder markets.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 32516 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14234 times:
Quoting FI642 (Reply 2): Odd with their large Airbus fleet they didn't go with the A330F.
In terms of total available cargo volume, the 767-300F is larger than the A300F and A310F by a pretty fair margin. It's design payload is also higher and it's design range is significantly longer. Yes, the A330-200F exceeds the 767-300F in all three categories, but availability is tighter and it's list price is 20% higher.
Quoting B6WNQX (Reply 4): Could they pick up second hand 763ER and convert them to F?
As MountainFlyer noted, Boeing and ST Aerospace have developed a Boeing Converted Freighter option for the 767-300ER with NH having taken seven. Bedek Aviation Group has converted eight 767-300ERs to BDSF freighter configuration (six operated by carriers owned by Air Transport Services Group, and one each operated by Euroatlantic Airways and Gestair).
iceberg210 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13947 times:
This makes for 46 767-300ERF's now for Fed Ex, in tranches of 27 (2011), 15 (2012) and 4 (2012.
Congratulations to the 767 that keeps on humming along, it's amazing how well this plane has done and really always under the radar...
Also makes you wonder if UPS is going to pick any more up they are down to just a backlog of 8 out of their last order for 27. Wouldn't be surprised if we see UPS pick up a few more over the next couple years...
Ronaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13596 times:
Will FedEx adds Winglets on them like LAN Cargo?
I wonder why UPS don't go with them. Their 767 are quite common on transatlantic and other intercontinental routes, so fuel savings must be enormous. Weight penalties should also not be a factor for them, right? So what's the reason behind?
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 14168 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 12857 times:
Quoting iceberg210 (Reply 8): This makes for 46 767-300ERF's now for Fed Ex, in tranches of 27 (2011), 15 (2012) and 4 (2012.
I wouldn't be surprised to see over 80 in the FedEx fleet as the DC-10s go off to become beer cans. Perhaps over a hundred with the A300-600R replacement. It will all depend if FedEx ever buys the A330F (unlikely due to the payload/range that FedEx requires, but not to be ruled out).
Quoting iceberg210 (Reply 8): Wouldn't be surprised if we see UPS pick up a few more over the next couple years...
For growth, after the market has settled. But Stich points out future replacement opportunities enabled by the tanker order (767 line extension in duration).
Quoting Stitch (Reply 9): They also have a large fleet of A300-600RFs that will eventually need replacing, so I would agree that they likely will add more down the road.
IIRC, initial delivery was in the 1990s. Depending on the maintenance profile, I would expect an order in 2 to 9 years from now. Since the 767 line should still be open, we should definitely see those orders.
KarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15170 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 12523 times:
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 12): Any guess on how long the A330 line will stay open with the A350 frames coming down the line? (back log and all).
I can see the A330 selling for many years after the A350 EIS as both 787 and A350 have a huge backlog. And there is also the A330 freighter and the A330 tanker of cource. I think Airbus should be able to keep the line open until the end of the decade.
phishphan70 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 12323 times:
Quoting FI642 (Reply 2): Odd with their large Airbus fleet they didn't go with the A330F
The one glaring problem i see with this (besides Boeing giving a much lower price on the 76 than Airbus is willing to go on the 330) is the 767's wing is far shorter than the 330's. FX has a bunch of stands already fitted to the MD10 size, and if memory serves me correctly, the 330 wouldn't be able to park next to another 330 in those spots.
It's like buying a huge SUV that doesn't fit in your garage. Do you want to replace the garage too?
TWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11942 times:
The age of the trijet is coming to an end . This is good forr FX because they can fit in the current positions at the Superhub and their 757 pilots will be able n to fly the 767 because of the same rating. It's a good thing they fly the MD-11 to IAH and DFW, the two airports I most frequently use these days.
A landing EVERYONE can walk away from, is a good landing.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 32516 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10958 times:
Quoting phishphan70 (Reply 18): The one glaring problem i see with this (besides Boeing giving a much lower price on the 76 than Airbus is willing to go on the 330) is the 767's wing is far shorter than the 330's. FX has a bunch of stands already fitted to the MD10 size, and if memory serves me correctly, the 330 wouldn't be able to park next to another 330 in those spots.
The DC-10-10 has a span of ~47m and the DC-10-30 has a span of ~50m. The 767-300F is ~47m and the A330-200F is 60m, so indeed the 767-300F can fit in a DC-10 stand whereas an A330-200F cannot.
And let's just say that Airbus offered a very attractive price on some A330-200F launch orders to kick the program off.