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Crazy Winds At DFW - 12/19  
User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1632 posts, RR: 20
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10176 times:

I'm sitting here listened to the radio scanner and the winds tonight at DFW are remarkable. Anywhere between 270 and 280 degrees, with gusts to 44kt. The only runways in use are the 31s - I don't think I've ever seen this before. I've also heard recent microburst alerts advising of a 45-knot loss on a 1-mile final.

Traffic is backed up on the Alpha bridge in a giant conga line for departure on 31L. Tower seems to be doing an excellent job getting these planes in and out in such a strange and stressful situation.

METARS are crazy, with reports of blowing dust and reduced visibility...

KDFW 200336Z 29031G39KT 2SM HZ BLDU OVC027 22/01 A2964 RMK AO2 PK WND 29039/0336 SFC VIS 3 TSE36 OCNL LTGIC DSNT NE-E TS MOV E


B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10113 times:

Just a normal fast moving thunderstorm line coming through. We saw a 54 kts gust a quarter mile from my house.

We see weather patterns like this a dozen or more times a year.

Luckly, they last usually less than a half hour.

Though unsnarling the traffic at the airports takes two or three hours.

The really fun part is that today's high was near 80, and it will be 32 for the low tonight.

[Edited 2012-12-19 20:23:22]

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10084 times:

We've had crazy weather the last few days up here in NY too. Winds were HOWLING yesterday and today and we've had sporatic thunderstorms popping up here and there.

User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1632 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10068 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
We see weather patterns like this a dozen or more times a year.

That's no doubt true, but how often is the airport reduced to 31L and 31R only for an extended period? They've been unable to use the N/S runways for about 2 hours now due to the sustained wind speeds.

Several AA aircraft diverted to TUL, OKC, AFW...not a fun night at all.



B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10045 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 3):
how often is the airport reduced to 31L and 31R only for an extended period?

Six to ten times a year.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10001 times:
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Pretty crazy peak wind at DAL a little while ago as well:

KDAL 200353Z 30025G35KT 1 1/2SM BLDU OVC032 21/04 A2966 RMK AO2 PK WND 29057/0259 WSHFT 0336 TWR VIS 2 TSE37RAB01E37 SLP038 TS MOVD E P0020 T02060039 $

For those unable to read METAR's, essentially DAL had a peak wind gust from the WNW at 57 knots (about 66 mph).



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1632 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9928 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):
Six to ten times a year.

Got it, thanks...

Cathay 090 (B748F) just went missed due to a microburst alert - 45kt loss in all quadrants of the airfield. Looks like it's heading to IAH. Aircraft are starting to shut down on the taxiway, one after the other.



B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9887 times:

Up here in Western Illinois we're forecast to have 50mph winds tomorrow along with 5 inches of snow, give or take. Things are going to be interesting all over the place the next few days, I think. I know our DFW-MLI flight was canceled tonight along with a few others. What a bad time for travel disruptions! And I'm glad I have the next few days off work.  

User currently offlineLoveJT8D From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9811 times:

I flew LAX-CLE last night (12/19) and we had a "massive" tail wind, the pilot told us. The flight was completed in 3 1/2 hours and shaved off 35 to 40 minutes of the normal flying time. In the winter months this seems to be common with the jet stream, however there was a large storm system that moved out of California a couple days ago. The winds at LAX were very gusty during takeoff. I'm assuming the same weather system gave DFW the strong winds.

User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9587 times:

I flew BNA-ORD on Tuesday and saw 160 knot winds. Mostly cross wind though so it wasn't much of a help or hindrance. Gotta love winter.

User currently offlinemastyc From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9583 times:

Same at OKC. 31 arrivals only with a bunch of DFW diverts.

User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1041 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9375 times:

When it gets like this in DFW I've seen the ILS 36L circle to 31L to get a second arrival runway for DFW.

Using only the 31s in DFW for an extended period is not that common but it has happened many times before.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

We do get those strong winds several times a year, but they are usually in March-May, and usually the 31/13 runways are unusable.

Everything looks back to normal this morning with the 36/18 runways in use - but the winds are still about 20-24 kts from 310. They should settle down later today.


User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9112 times:

Was the QF flight able to get off of Runway 31L last night? I figured that runway might be a bit short for such a long flight....


Thanks,

Chris



Christopher W Slovacek
User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9058 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 3):
That's no doubt true, but how often is the airport reduced to 31L and 31R only for an extended period? They've been unable to use the N/S runways for about 2 hours now due to the sustained wind speeds.

In the six years I was at DFW, I'd say I saw that happen maybe about a dozen to a dozen and a half times. Of course, I wasn't at work every day, but it does happen from time to time.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):

Six to ten times a year.

Sounds about congruent with my experience.

Quoting LoveJT8D (Reply 8):
The winds at LAX were very gusty during takeoff. I'm assuming the same weather system gave DFW the strong winds.

They sure were! When I got to work last night, the outbound traffic was taking some significant cross wind on take off. One of the Cathays and a few of the VXs rocked their wings a good bit just after liftoff, just from what I saw...

But it's been weird here the last few weeks anyway. Saw a UA 744 & a CZ A388 take off from 7L (well before the midnight turn-around) into the pattern over the last week or so.



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1632 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9015 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 13):
Was the QF flight able to get off of Runway 31L last night?

Looks like it never made it out. It's scheduled for 20 minutes ago, so we'll see what happens today...



B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8967 times:

Looks like QF actually got out about 12:15 AM or about 2 hours later than normal. It's well on it's way now.

I'm sitting at home working about 25 miles East of DFW and the winds are still howling quite a bit.



Christopher W Slovacek
User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8527 times:

Just another typical day out here in the Plains. LOL

Things have been slowing down. Last report here sustained 28 gusting to 40 mph. It was a pretty noisy night though with the wind.

http://www.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/today.gust.gif


User currently offlineAerowrench From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8315 times:

Dry line passage in the south central plain s is never anything short of remarkable.

User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day ago) and read 7225 times:

SHV saw 7 DFW mainline diversions last night, and we found out why firsthand in the wee hours this morning when the system hit our area..WOW, it was fast moving, and hard hitting with winds and rain..and then, it was over!

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

I wish we actually got some of that precip here in Oklahoma. Nothing but wind, dust, and a few clouds.

User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8269 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 20):
Nothing but wind, dust, and a few clouds.

Haha that's what I took away from my visit to OKC, glad I'm not the only one.



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User currently offlineLoveJT8D From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 55 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 14):
One of the Cathays and a few of the VXs rocked their wings a good bit just after liftoff, just from what I saw...

That explains the "swerving" during my takeoff. I flew UA Flight 753 departing at 11:12 pm, and noticed a lot of compensation "side to side" during the takeoff. I checked the flight info on flightaware and it shows we peaked out at 591 kts once we reached Chicago Center. Much of the flight at cruise was between 560 and 590 kts.


User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

How are Ops doing today at DFW? Though windy, I don't think they should have had much of an impact. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Christopher W Slovacek
User currently offlineDalavia From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

I was QF8 out of DFW to SYD on 19th Dec. We were told before takeoff that the flight would need to divert to AKL for extra refuelling.

After boarding we sat on the plane for two and a half hours waiting for the local winds to die down so we could take off. We eventually took off at about midnight. After takeoff it was announced that everyone's luggage was left behind because otherwise the plane could not have taken off.

As a result of the lighter weight we didn't need to refuel in AKL after all. We arrived about two and a half hours behind schedule.

They had plenty of 'misplaced baggage' forms for us all to fill in on the flight, suggesting this is not an isolated occurrence. We were old that "all being well" (!!!) the luggage would be on the next days's flight - but because that flight will have to call into AKL for extra fuel, it will arrive about four hours behind the scheduled arrival time - "all being well".


25 DFWHeavy : Dalavia, Do you know which runway you took off from?
26 loggat : I landed at 2:45am this morning on 31R. Winds were still about 300@33G39. Wasn't too difficult though with the wind being down the runway and the gust
27 Dalavia : Sorry, it was too dark to see. All I know is that it was a very long taxi (about 10 minutes). Apologies for the vagueness; normally I could have answ
28 ATA L1011 : This has happened often with this flt in normal conditions.....The wrong equipment for that FLT, as it is pushing the 744ER to its limits. A friend o
29 Dalavia : Yes, I agree. Or an A345. Or an A388. I cannot understand why QF postponed those A380s as they would have made this a viable route. Alternatively the
30 N243NW : From the looks of it on Flightaware, the flight used 31L.
31 Dalavia : When I spoke (again) this morning with the baggage services people to find out when my luggage might arrive, I was told that all the luggage had to b
32 rfields5421 : Well, the winds took down another 40 feet of my backyard fence. Thought that wouldn't happen til April or May. Fun weekend of work putting it back up.
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