Asiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1019 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11333 times:
SQ will invest SGD 95 Mio in upgrading the Business Class as well as Economy Class cabin on 10 Boeing 777-200ER.
Business Class will be fitted with same type of seats as in A380, A345 and 77W, which is 1-2-1 seating with fully flat beds.
Economy class will get larger screens and new seat covers.
This means that the Space Beds will be replaced with the much larger and comfortable newest Business Class seats. We can expect the 772ER to stay until they are replaced by the A359.
CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2183 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11158 times:
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I think it was about time that they did so, to be honest, especially considering tthat some of their 777-200ERs fly long haul missions. Do you know which 10 will be upgraded?
Asiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1019 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10715 times:
Quoting qf002 (Reply 2): I did raise this about a month ago, though the thread didn't really go anywhere...
Sorry, I searched but for some reason I did not find it.
Quoting CXB77L (Reply 1): Do you know which 10 will be upgraded?
I would expect it to be the 6 from SQ series with spacebeds and no First Class, while the 3 with first class are older and probably will leave soon. The remaining four should be some of the not yet retrofitted planes from SR or SV series.
Can someone with deeper knowledge about the details enlight us?
infinit From Singapore, joined Jul 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10467 times:
About time! These poor birds are real laggards. SQ introduced these cabin products 5.5years ago and they're already about to start working on a new set of cabin products
warren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1131 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8115 times:
The definitely need to bring it to Johannesburg first on that long flight over the bumpy Indian ocean!
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 9, posted (4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5043 times:
Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 3): I would expect it to be the 6 from SQ series with spacebeds and no First Class, while the 3 with first class are older and probably will leave soon. The remaining four should be some of the not yet retrofitted planes from SR or SV series.
Can someone with deeper knowledge about the details enlight us?
Quoting kaitak744 (Reply 8): The 10 to be reconfigured could be from the SV series planes, or from the original SQ and SR series (of which there are 10 left in the old configs)
The 10 aircraft we are talking about will come from the SV series, of which currently 11 are left in the fleet. It seems that 9V-SVE will either be the first to receive the retrofits or it will be withdrawn altogether. The other 10 aircraft left are 9V-SVB/C/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O. These aircraft are used on lonhaul sectors to AKL, CHC, JNB, CPT, IST, FCO, AMS and CPH and the retrofit will bring the premium offers in line with the rest of the longhaul fleet.
The remaining SR* and SQ* series are used on midhaul and regional services only and the once that will stay will ultimately operate with a product that will be quite similar to the A333 offerings. SQ seems to be hanging on to some 3-class B772s for the SIN CGK route only, where demand for F seats is significant.
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4304 times:
Quoting Asiaflyer (Thread starter): Hopefully they run them on a direct MAN, then we won't have that stop in MUC and put up with the noisy cold 77W. Better still, 380 for MAN please.
Not sure how struggling to succeed on a non stop B772 means that an A388 is a better idea....
YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
Quoting infinit (Reply 4): About time! These poor birds are real laggards. SQ introduced these cabin products 5.5years ago and they're already about to start working on a new set of cabin products
What are they going to do with the older seats? Sell them to a US airline?
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4151 times:
Speaking of SQ B77Es, I just discovered that they added two back off lease from Royal Brunei. I didn't expect to see them back, I thought they'd been sold on. What happened? Was there a change of plan?
andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4021 times:
I suppose the Economy class seats will look similar to the refurbished ones on the regional 777s if it's just a replacement of LCD screen and new seat covers.
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 14, posted (4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3950 times:
The business class on these refurbished 9V-SV* aircraft will carry 26 instead of 30 seats. SIN AMS will be the first route to receive the new configuration early 2013. 9V-SVE will likely be the first aircraft with the new config. It is currently undergoing heavy maintenance.
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12): I just discovered that they added two back off lease from Royal Brunei
That would be 9V-SVB and 9V-SVC, whereas 9V-SVA/D/F/G remain with Royal Brunei.
CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2183 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
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Quoting andrewtang (Reply 13): I suppose the Economy class seats will look similar to the refurbished ones on the regional 777s if it's just a replacement of LCD screen and new seat covers.
Upon reading
Quoting Asiaflyer (Thread starter): Economy class will get larger screens and new seat covers.
from the OP I had assumed that SQ were going to fit their current long haul economy product (on the A330s, 777-300ERs an A380) on the 777-200ERs as well. The article linked in the OP also says:
Quote: In Economy Class, personal LCD monitors will be upgraded to 9 inches from 6.5 inches. Seat covers, designed by Givenchy, will also feature soothing colours as well as richer and softer fabrics, similar to those found on Singapore Airlines’ A380s and B777-300ERs.
However, you might be right in that the seats itself aren't new, but rather new seat upholstery and larger screens will be the extent of the Y class update.
IMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 295 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3005 times:
Quoting CXB77L (Reply 16): However, you might be right in that the seats itself aren't new, but rather new seat upholstery and larger screens will be the extent of the Y class update
Which is actually the best thing to do! I recently flew several long-haul sectors, some on the 77W and some on the SV* 772's and the older economy seats on the latter are actually a lot softer and more comfy on a long flight. If They just change the outdated IFE screens and hopefully add the full IFE programming than it'll be ideal!
AngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 319 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2764 times:
Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 17): Which is actually the best thing to do! I recently flew several long-haul sectors, some on the 77W and some on the SV* 772's and the older economy seats on the latter are actually a lot softer and more comfy on a long flight. If They just change the outdated IFE screens and hopefully add the full IFE programming than it'll be ideal!
I agree with that one. I flew AMS-SIn just this week and I actually sleep better in the older Y seats than in the newer. But once you are used to the A380/A333/77W IFE, then the entertainment system in the old 77Es is just rubbish.
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It is high time this upgrade occurred. I have flown the AMS-SIN leg several times on the "old" 772. Regardless of whether KL uses an equivalent or inferior product on the same route; non lie-flat long haul in J is seen as pretty below par these days. Also, the product was inconsistent with SQ's own offings. You could pay the same fare and fly to CDG, MXP, FRA etc and get the new 1-2-1 config.
Transient differences across a carrier's fleet are by no means unheard of; but this little curiosity has been going on about 5 years.
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