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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3038 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

Looking at the National Airlines (N7) timetable from April 2001 and saw that they were flying an afternoon flight to DCA from LAS, with a departure back to LAS the next morning. Did National have their own staff at DCA, or did they contract out ground handling to someone else? Did the DCA flight resume when DCA reopened in the October after 9/11?

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User currently offlinesimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

Quoting catiii (Thread starter):
Did the DCA flight resume when DCA reopened in the October after 9/11?

No, because 757s weren't allowed at DCA post-9/11 (technically, it was aircraft with 156 or more seats). Rather silly, I think, especially because it contributed to (certainly not caused) a business to fail. National only flew 757s.

[Edited 2012-12-21 12:24:58]

User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 1):
No, because 757s weren't allowed at DCA post-9/11 (technically, it was aircraft with 156 or more seats). Rather silly, I think, especially because it contributed to (certainly not caused) a business to fail. National only flew 757s.

Sillier still because they could have just removed three rows of coach and two more seats and gotten down to 155 (their 757s apparently only sat 175). Same airplane, same danger, just fewer seats. Strange time in history.


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Was their service to IAD before or after the DCA ban?

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 1):
Rather silly, I think, especially because it contributed to (certainly not caused) a business to fail. National only flew 757s.

The airline was already in bankruptcy at the time of the 9/11 Attacks and had been denied a loan guarantee from the Air Transportation Stabilization Board that had been established in the wake of 9/11 and that was pretty much the final nail in the airlines' coffin as the casinos that had been bankrolling the airline were hit pretty hard after 9/11 as well and didn't want to invest anymore in the airline (which was part of the reason for the bankruptcy).

National only operating 757s was part of their failure, as it was too big of an a/c for the short hops to some of the cities they flew to like LAX and SFO.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1920 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

I miss them...solely because they had the best looking tail of all time!!!

User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 4):
I miss them...solely because they had the best looking tail of all time!!!

May I ask why you feel it was the besting looking tail of all time?


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2522 times:
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Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):

Ehh, everybody's entitled to their own opinion. For instance, my favorite tail scheme of all time is the Blue UA tulip, yet my father hates it and loves the battleship grey, which I hate. We don't all have to agree.  



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1920 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):

Simple, yet sleek and elegant.


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4502 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 4):
I miss them...solely because they had the best looking tail of all time!!!

Well, at least we agree on the name of the airline that had the best looking tail of all time, however my vote is for this "National:"


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

Quoting N62NA (Reply 8):
Well, at least we agree on the name of the airline that had the best looking tail of all time, however my vote is for this "National:"


I'll also vote for that tail.

Off topic however; isn't that a Tenneco BAC 111 sitting on the east side of the DC-10? What a fleet Tenneco had in the glory days of their flight department. IIRC, Terminal B at IAH was the Customs/Immigration for all flights needing to clear Customs including corporate.



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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 6):

Ehh, everybody's entitled to their own opinion. For instance, my favorite tail scheme of all time is the Blue UA tulip, yet my father hates it and loves the battleship grey, which I hate. We don't all have to agree.

I was just asking. My favorite was the bunny on the tail of the Playboy DC-9!


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
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Quoting crownvic (Reply 10):
My favorite was the bunny on the tail of the Playboy DC-9!

LOL that's not a bad one, either!  

But the black would probably show to much dirt for me, not that Heff probably cared.  



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User currently offlineiadbudd From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

When DCA shut down after 9-11, National flew there 2 flights to LAS out of IAD. They had a red eye come in at 6 am and turned right back to LAS, they also had a evening turn to LAS. They never went back to DCA when it opened and when the airline shut down it was still flying out of Dulles. I remember a flight coming in and the departure back to LAS was canceled since the airline had ceased flying. As the passengers showed up at the ticket counter to check in, all that they saw was a posted notice about the airline no longer flying.

User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Try being an (ex) employee and finding out you don't have a job via the news and a note tapped on the door! I miss my days at N7. Full service for the passengers and a great group of people to work with.

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Loved thier call sign,too . "Red Rock"


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