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UA- How Many Tulips Left?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15353 times:

I haven't seen one in a while. I fear the end is near.  
Anyone have reg #s? Since UA reds are trackable on FlightAware, very valuable information!   



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I know the Bat Gray colors are gone from mainline. I saw a CR7 wearing them a few weeks ago @ MIA How many UAX are still wearing those????

Thanx in advance for all input.

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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15363 times:

Please refer to this Website:

https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/mainline-fleet-tracking

The only mainline aircraft left with Tulips are

3 777s
13 744s
4 757



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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2128 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15314 times:

Tons of UAX tulips lurk around IAH. And the occasional tulip 757. I can't believe how fast they picked up the painting.


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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15273 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
UA-how Many Tulips Left?

Not enough.  
Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
The only mainline aircraft left with Tulips are

3 777s
13 744s
4 757

I do remember seeing a 744 with Tulips at SFO last week. (at the international terminal)

I have also seen Tulips on ground handling equipment - Bag carts, tuggers, etc. I have seen rampers wearing yellow vests that still have the Tulip, as well... However, I am not sure this is really what you're looking for.

By the way, whatever ended up happening to that big Tulip in the UA terminal at DEN? Is it a CO globe now?  

Darn, these mergers... Every time I fly UA and see the new logo I get a little sad.  


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15236 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):

OMG......that's it?????!!!!! WOW!



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17067 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15210 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
The only mainline aircraft left with Tulips are

3 777s
13 744s
4 757

Any reason why they are slower with the 744 fleet?



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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15208 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
OMG......that's it?????!!!!! WOW!

Yup, they just finished the Airbuses. I think they'll finish the 757s next.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5848 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15128 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
Anyone have reg #s? Since UA reds are trackable on FlightAware, very valuable information!

Um, you do realize that we have a WHOLE THREAD dedicated to UA fleet updates, including a list of airplanes that have been repainted, and it's been an open thread since before the merger?

United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 14 (by LipeGIG Dec 10 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Also, the person who replied up above neglected to include the many 767-300s that have yet to be repainted.

Good riddance, I say; a livery only earns its keep if you work to maintain it, which United couldn't be bothered to do with EITHER of their last liveries.
Someone on here recently was ranting and raving about United's perfect image pre-merger; obviously, they hadn't seen any United aircraft in the last few years. Like these two:

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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15074 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):
Also, the person who replied up above neglected to include the many 767-300s that have yet to be repainted.

Whoops, sorry:

3 777s
13 744s
4 757
14 763s



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14906 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):

NOPE------I thought those were about changes in the interior, didn't realize that had livery information, sorry.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1955 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14818 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 3):
Not enough.

I agree. I miss the UA colors. Just had a trip through ORD, IAH, and DEN, and there's precious few tulips left. The only mainlines I saw was one 744 at ORD (N120UA) and one 763 at IAH (N659UA). Thankfully I flew on a UAX blue aircraft, possibly for the last time.

I did see one CR7 taxiing in the battleship gray at ORD, but unfortunately I was on the escalator into the B/C tunnel and had no chance of taking a picture.

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 3):
By the way, whatever ended up happening to that big Tulip in the UA terminal at DEN? Is it a CO globe now?

That was something I checked for at DEN. There was nothing there, and I'm positive I was looking in the right place. It was sad.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2912 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14731 times:
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I wish United would sell some of the thousands of tulip plaques as they come down. Even if their are a handful of them on some birds, they will all be gone. Owning a 3D tulip will be a piece of nostalgia for those of us who love her. I have a big piece of a PanAm 707 fuselage in my living room (with a window   ) and PanAm cuff links. I have VARIG port glasses and VARIG espresso cups. I covet these items as they are now antiques. What I want is a tulip now. I have some UA tulip glasses - but I want a sign!


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User currently offlinemaxamuus From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14686 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
at was something I checked for at DEN. There was nothing there, and I'm positive I was looking in the right place. It was sad.

Is the old CO globe still in A? They could just move it over to B.


User currently onlineTigerguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14668 times:

Quoting AlnessW (Reply 3):
By the way, whatever ended up happening to that big Tulip in the UA terminal at DEN? Is it a CO globe now?
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
That was something I checked for at DEN. There was nothing there, and I'm positive I was looking in the right place. It was sad.

Yeah, those have been gone for at least a year. I remember making a note of it in a trip report I wrote after going through there at the time.

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 14):
You may know about my habit of going to Denver’s Concourse B and walking from one end to the other whenever I have the time; Monday was no exception. Seeing the transformation of United’s territory to fit the new brand has been interesting. I saw workers going down the line, gate by gate, replacing panels and signs as I walked past on a previous jaunt. Besides all of that, there was always one curiosity on my mind since the merger was announced and the brand decision made. Each time I went through the middle section, I wondered when the day would come when the giant tulips would be relieved of their watch over the vast hall. I received an answer:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...green/Seattle%20Cooper/SC00646.jpg

I’m not necessarily a die-hard tulip loyalist, but I have to admit that it looks unusual to see nothing on that wall anymore.

Last I saw, the wall was still blank. I doubt they'll put anything up there.



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1955 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14661 times:

Quoting maxamuus (Reply 12):
Is the old CO globe still in A? They could just move it over to B.

I didn't make it over to A. I had a fairly tight connection and couldn't wander past the B hub area. So I can't answer that one, sorry.


User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14315 times:

United just changed the logos on their Ops center on Touhy road just a second from my house to the new globe. Still was sporting pre-battleship!


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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14285 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):
Good riddance, I say; a livery only earns its keep if you work to maintain it, which United couldn't be bothered to do with EITHER of their last liveries.

I can't say that I have seen any blue tulips that have seemed unkept. The Battleship Grey colors were HORRIBLE to begin with, but they really, as you said, did nothing to keep it up.

This whole business with this merger has upset me. One one hand, I love the UA tulip, and am greatly disheartened to see it go. On the other CO holds a sentimental place in my heart, as my first flight was on a COEX E45X. I really wish both liveries would stay.  



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2218 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14251 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 16):
I can't say that I have seen any blue tulips that have seemed unkept. The Battleship Grey colors were HORRIBLE to begin with, but they really, as you said, did nothing to keep it up.

There were some issues with some of the blue tulips peeling, but I think that was because of problems with the paintshop and not due to UA neglecting them. With the Battleship Grey UA seemed to just stop caring about them as soon as they went bankrupt.


User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14239 times:

We still get UAX/OO EMB-120s here in CEC in the stealth paint job (they disappear in our daily fog) and the less-common final blue/white Tulip, though mostly we get the bare metal with red/blue SkyWest logo (which IIRC is a throwback to when OO operated briefly as a Western/WA connection, and later as DL connection).

I haven't seen a Brasilia in the new UHC globe here yet.



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User currently offlineAlnessW From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14053 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
I agree. I miss the UA colors.

   Me, too.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
Just had a trip through ORD, IAH, and DEN, and there's precious few tulips left.

I can only imagine. Though I would assume that there wouldn't be as many Tulips in IAH, considering that was a CO hub? (right?)

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
Thankfully I flew on a UAX blue aircraft, possibly for the last time.

Yeah, my last "Tulip Ride" was probably a 752 in August 2011. (UA 243, PDX-SFO)

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
That was something I checked for at DEN. There was nothing there, and I'm positive I was looking in the right place.

Thanks for the info.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
It was sad.

Sad indeed.  
Quoting VC10er (Reply 11):

I wish United would sell some of the thousands of tulip plaques as they come down. Even if their are a handful of them on some birds, they will all be gone. Owning a 3D tulip will be a piece of nostalgia for those of us who love her.

I would love this, too.

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 13):
Yeah, those have been gone for at least a year. I remember making a note of it in a trip report I wrote after going through there at the time.

Thanks for sharing that image. That is definitely where the Tulip once reigned...

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 13):
Last I saw, the wall was still blank. I doubt they'll put anything up there.


I suspect you're probably right.


User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14022 times:

I personally miss the tulip. I have a 1/100 Saul Bass 763 model. No one is allowed to touch it.


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User currently onlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 1253 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13980 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):

The white-Blue scheme was maintained and Well. The Grey was LOUSY Paint scheme that NOBODY at United even liked !. ICK !!
As boring as the Globe paint job is?
It's STILL Light Years in advance of that Blue//Grey "Civil War" Paint Job!!
I'd rather the airplanes be green Primer than that LOUSY paint Job..


User currently offlineUA735WL From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13828 times:

I flew LAX-SFO on a Tulip 752 last June...N589UA. It was the only tulip plane I saw at either airport. Sad. I always loved the tulip (and CO). Seems that this merger has destroyed them both :'(


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User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13738 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
That was something I checked for at DEN. There was nothing there, and I'm positive I was looking in the right place. It was sad.

The tulip is definitely gone from the center core of the DEN B Concourse and as yet hasn't been replaced with the globe. I kind of hope they do put it up though. I'm also curious when they will change the Continental hangar in DEN to United.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5848 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13724 times:

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 21):

Do I need to post a pic of N175UA to show you peeling blue-U paint?
Or how about N646UA, which has looked like crap since before the merger?


25 Post contains images mesaflyguy : I'm not saying your wrong, but there are always going to be a few bad ones in the batch. I flew US from JFK to CLT in the beginning of November and a
26 gigneil : I'm sure they'll put up a Globe in B... they had one in A for years and it would be only appropriate. I think the ground branding efforts have gone qu
27 Post contains links and images CALTECH : Something like this ?
28 Post contains images mesaflyguy : That's actually really cool. Yes, I would like something like that!
29 CALPSAFltSkeds : Please refer to this Website: https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/mainline-fleet-tracking AND on Twitter Follow us here for paint, IFE, E+,
30 Antoniemey : A lot of them probably ended up in employee hands (along with a lot of the old Continental signage that got taken down to be replaced with the United
31 Post contains links and images jwhite9185 : Not too sure about this one I shot last week: I was also going to mention that I saw a 767 in the old livery at LHR last week, but its already been c
32 comairguycvg : The battleship gray CR7 was here in ATL the other day. That one has been here a lot lately. It must be the only CR7 in that scheme because its always
33 FlyDeltaJets : Probably Mesa, they have a few battleship CR7's. I only miss the Worldwide Service that was on that scheme. Certainly they could have kept that.
34 JHCRJ700 : haters gunna hate! I'll certainly miss seeing the Tulip. Still my favorite livery of all time. I even liked the battleship gray a lot as well. It's a
35 AA737-823 : I didn't hate on the livery, I hated on the maintenance thereof. I actually like the "tulip" as a logo; I did NOT like how horrid the planes ended up
36 strfyr51 : that's a failure of the painting shop , we already are addressing that failure. It appears that was bad prep work. We can't paint airplanes is our ow
37 jfk777 : SAW a 744 at ORD 12/15 detined for Tokyo.
38 Post contains links and images Superfly : The best looking United livery of all time. Too bad the 747-400 wore these colors for a very short time. The battleship grey I begain to like when UA
39 JHCRJ700 : word bro! I see what your saying now. Can't argue there. 646UA is THE example of how poorly maintained some of the planes were. The Saul Bass was a g
40 STT757 : I was very impressed with the Battleship livery when I first started seeing them in the early '90s, 1993?, it was something totally different. But by
41 Post contains links and images CALTECH : Have to agree with your post. Never saw so many horrid paint jobs since the days of the merger of PEOPLEExpress with Continental. There were many 'Bl
42 STT757 : I flew on those hybrid CO/PE 727s many times, my last flight on one was August 1994 EWR-STT. That was nearly Eight years after the merger. They paint
43 Post contains images DualQual : When a battleship was freshly painted it could look really good. The Tulip on the tail should have been a bit larger though. When battleship faded tho
44 VC10er : A little bit of history on Battleship if you care: a group of branding people and designers left their respective agencies including a bunch of LANDO
45 Post contains images MaverickM11 : I'm indifferent whether it's a globe or a tulip or Barney the dinosaur, as long as the entire fleet is painted consistently in a timely manner. Just
46 IAH59 : I am going to miss the old Gray United livery.
47 jwhite9185 : Guess that explains the similarities between the battleship livery and the old BA livery - grey on top, dark blue belly and small logo on the tail.
48 3green : I too liked the Tulip paint jobs, i have to admit i find the new livery a bit boring , although i know it is a very expensive project when changing to
49 AA737-823 : But yet: Strfyr, what "everybody" knows and what you know seem to be at odds. Wrong. 646 had perfect paint application- it's simply filthy, disgustin
50 Post contains images AlnessW : Yeah, I think if they really tried they could've combined the UA Tulip and the CO Globe in a nice way, like in that example image. The new logo just
51 VC10er : Actually there is no link between the ex Landorian at March 1st and BA. It was Wolfe, he wanted battleship and also directed the dark blue US Airways
52 IAH59 : I see some battleship Gray/ light colored tulip mainly United Express at Terminal B and the light colored tulip and 767 at terminal C and E at IAH.
53 davs5032 : There's a bit too much going on for me on that fuselage, but I LOVE that logo design on the tail. I was hoping that they would have done something li
54 Polot : I have always liked something like [url=http://www.airlinereporter.com/2010/05/airline-livery-of-the-week-what-could-have-been-with-united-airlines/]
55 richierich : Really? The battleship grey colors were around for more than a dozen years and it was only at the end when you decided you liked it? To me liveries a
56 VC10er : The truth is..it COULD HAVE BEEN DONE! A great team of designers could have solved it. We (Landor) merged FedEx and Kinko's, we could have crated a m
57 strfyr51 : loved the pain job wasn't too thrilled about the Brown seat covers. they didn't seem to have much style.would have liked leather better. infinitely m
58 CALTECH : There you go. That's the point, the bad Globe paint jobs get addressed long before they look like the 'Greys' in post # 41. Legacy United had shamefu
59 RDH3E : I was in CLE a couple weeks ago, 95% of the wheelchairs say "CONTINENTAL AIRLINES" on them, with the other 5% being "UNITED AIRLINES" with their resp
60 spacecadet : The 747-100 and -200 wore them for a long time, though. When I used to live near SFO, I watched quite a few of them take off over my house. I grew up
61 FWAERJ : IIRC, FWA's United Express ticket counter was still all tulips last time I was there in late September. Not sure if a globe backdrop was finally put
62 Antoniemey : Somewhere in the system there's a bag tag printer that's still programmed with "Continental Airlines" instead of "United" as the logotype. Any sUA un
63 N1120A : Smisek should go crawling back to Pentagram on his knees Exactly. Fairly heavy fleet utilization and the concentration in SFO/LAX means less chance to
64 MaverickM11 : PmUA couldn't consistently brand one plane from nose to tail, or even some ticket counters from one end to the other. Never mind you could drive a 74
65 Post contains images AlnessW : I agree. Except that design looks a lot like Comfort Inn. Valid concern indeed. Exactly! They didn't even try. That would make sense considering that
66 Post contains images coairman : Here is a 757-2 that pulled into a CLE gate last week. I was struck by how gorgeous the livery was on a clear sunny day as it taxied to the gate. I th
67 HoMsaR : Last month, I checked a bag in ORD and noted that my claim tag had a tulip logo printed on it.
68 FWAERJ : The font in question is FF Clan (originally commissioned as the official font of the Scottish Government, hence the name). It replaces the sUA usage
69 Post contains images MaverickM11 : it's simple, clean, and consistent. And considering the customer service metrics are down the tubes, the branding is pretty low on the list of things
70 OA412 : I don't think I saw a single one at DEN the other day. Too bad, because I definitely prefer it to the old CO/current UA livery. Have to disagree with
71 sulley : On paper, old UA had a fantastic brand image. It's just a shame that it was never consistently implemented system wide.
72 Post contains images FWAERJ : You may agree or disagree with the new UA branding, but it has far more systemwide consistency now (and only growing) than the last PMUA branding eve
73 Antoniemey : I agree with you overall, but I'm wondering how long it'll take them to work their way out to the exterior jetbridge signs and GSE markings at expres
74 tommy767 : I think it's safe to say that you can thank Smisek and company for killing a great American logo and color scheme in favor of a horridly bland one.
75 FWAERJ : There's no jetway signs at FWA, as all gates are shared (but there are plans for ads, a la the HSBC ads you see at LHR, JFK, and the like). And some
76 tommy767 : This argument is getting a little old. I look at the slip side -- perhaps UA had high utilization rates that prohibited them from getting the paint j
77 PMUA787 : Yes quite true. What should have been done was to go back to the livery design board and started fresh.
78 tommy767 : Very much so. I look at reply 66 and want to cry -- even now that scheme which is almost 8 years old is still cutting edge KILLED in favor of an ugly
79 quiet1 : Wow. Such a simple detail would have appeased SO many people! They had to put UNITED on each sCO airplane anyway, so why not also include such a smal
80 FWAERJ : More website improvements, including a new look that is more post-merger branding guidelines and less sCO website, are on the way. Hopefully, a Windo
81 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Ha...UA and a high utilization rate...that's funny. No, UA was busy delaying as much mx as possible since that cost money too. 80+% of the fleet is r
82 OA412 : Wish you were joking about that, but I have a feeling you're not. Ugh!
83 tommy767 : The funny thing is that CO's relevance by 2010 was nothing distinctive and were on the same page as any of the other competitors in terms of declinin
84 AirframeAS : You'll still see those for awhile, same with the "Continental Airlines" typeface and logo as well on bagtags. I see those pretty much every day.
85 MaverickM11 : I never have neglected that fact--after nearly a decade of bankruptcy and trying to sell a carrier no one wanted to buy, the UA team began to actuall
86 FWAERJ : For proof to that statement, look at the 744 refurbishments under Tilton: AVOD in F and J, but not in Y. And this was at a time when virtually every
87 jetblueguy22 : This thread has drifted off topic and will be locked to future posts. Blue
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