trex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 5430 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8563 times:
BR has NO 747-8s or A380s on order!
CI just acquired 10 77ws with purchase options on another 4 which seem like a 744 replacement program China Airlines To Obtain 77Ws (by coolfish1103 Dec 6 2012 in Civil Aviation). They probably will get 747-8Fs eventually to replace their 21 744Fs. Which would seem to give the 7478I a leg up in any competition with the A380. though I wouldn't rule out A380s in the future perhaps but not anytime soon if they just went 77w for the 744 replacement.
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5513 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8496 times:
Quoting trex8 (Reply 1): though I wouldn't rule out A380s in the future perhaps but not anytime soon if they just went 77w for the 744 replacement.
I thought the 77Ws were initially replacing A343s?
Anyway I would have thought they would have a need for a few larger aircraft for routes to LAX and SFO mainly plus maybe NRT and HKG. I did always think CI were a good hope for the 747-8I program, I think they could use 6-8 for the above routes but maybe just more flights with 77Ws in future.
celestar From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4129 times:
Frankly speaking, I think CI desperately need 777-300ER. Their most profitable route are to NA West and East Coast. They are still using 747 which I don't have a problem, but comparing with EVA 777, the 747 is less economical, I think.
With more business coming from cross-strait traffic, CI should deploy their 747 to the short haul, heavy traffic route before their life is well spent.
I would love to see a CI 777 livery, it would be nice, does anyone has a rendition of that?
I would also love to see either BR or CI choose 787, but given how conservative they are, I really doubt that in the near future. Speaking about that, isn't SQ has ordered teh 787, does anyone has a artist rendition of that?
tommy525 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4033 times:
Ci used to favor Airbus while EVA favored Boeing. Things have changed now with both liking to balance out their purchasing between Boeing and Airbus.
Both EVA and Ci have very recently placed substantial Boeing deals. The time seems ripe for an Airbus procurement. However, the fact that the A380 cancelled its Taipei trip (it was supposed to go there from Hawaii , before HK) may mean that no headway was made on A380 sales at this time.
BreninTW From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4017 times:
BR has firmly put its long-haul eggs in the 77W basket. CI seems to be mixing the 77W and A350-series. I think both carriers are firmly in the big-twin camp for near-term orders.
The 748 and A380 are possible, but (in my uninformed opinion) unlikely for now. While there are a few routes that would benefit from larger aircraft, there are too few routes to make a small fleet of them financially feasible.
I think both carriers are trying to increase yields by reducing the available number of seats on routes. I know that CI has, in the past few years, had pretty decent load-factors, but at rock-bottom yields, which has lead to it bleeding money.
Buying the 748 or A380 would only serve to increase the seats and dilute yields.
I can see BR's next big order being for A350-series aircraft as well, or possibly the 787-9, to replace and upguage its A332 fleet. BR is in no real hurry to replace the A332 fleet, instead it's being supplemented by A333 purchases/leases. BR's major concern now is replacing its short-haul fleet of MD-90 and DH8 aircraft, which are being replaced by A321 and ATR72-600 -- the first of each already being in service.
I read from a local Taiwan magazine that the A380 visit was arranged via Transasia who had recently received its very first wide body jet A330 - another one to come. Transasia is aggressively trying to expand itself under the shadow of CI and BR. It is seeing a healthy growth of business with cross-strait traffic and has been aggressively expanding to South East Asia and Japan. Ironically, the local aviation authority question why they should allocate flying rights if Transasia does not have wide body jet to carry the traffic, and therefore, the order for A330. Their CEO toy about the A380 idea!!!
Very sad to see A380 cancel its planned visit to Taiwan.
My neighbor who used to be a FO with BR 747 fleet got his promotion to Captain and in an ironic rule within BR, he get transferred to UNI AIR (BR sister company) flying the MD90. He just returned back from France, presumably on a training trip to A321. Are you aware of this internal house rule within BR about promotion and have to change to another aircraft type, to me, that is kind of stupid or is there any better reasonable explanation?
BreninTW From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3266 times:
Quoting celestar (Reply 15): Are you aware of this internal house rule within BR about promotion
No, I'm not aware of the rule. However, it's not an uncommon rule, I know that MH has a similar rule in place. A friend was L/H cabin crew, and when he was promoted to a purser, he had to go onto the domestic fleet for (I think) two years before he could be a purser on L/H again.