zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 7725 posts, RR: 73 Posted (5 months 6 hours ago) and read 6604 times:
Quote: The pilot reported that there was snow and ice on the runway. He reported that a strong crosswind gust forced the experimental airplane to veer off the left side of the runway where the it struck runway lights.
Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5441 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (5 months 6 hours ago) and read 6493 times:
Quoting zeke (Thread starter): Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.
Cargo pilots tend to fly in a lot worse conditions than passenger pilots, but still, you'd think that there's be enough local personnel there to do a proper field condition test.
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dazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2575 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 months 2 hours ago) and read 5901 times:
Quoting zeke (Thread starter): Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.
He is time limited though! Lets hope the winds are calm enough for an uneventful take-off on Monday evening or we'll have nothing to unwrap on Tuesday morning!
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prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6019 posts, RR: 55 Reply 6, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5479 times:
Quoting hailstone (Reply 4): considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???
Yup! This is clearly a tower fault.
This airport has had southerly wind constantly during the last four and a half billion years. Why on earth (eah - why on ice) have they made a 13/31 runway?
And much worse, why does tower clear such a heavy cargo plane for takeoff on a crosswind runway? Especially since the runway also seems to have been contaminated.
The end users of the cargo should sue the airport for damage caused by any late delivery.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1811 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3912 times:
I notice the date of the incident is December 22. I am guessing this was a test flight... do a little run up of the engines on the reindeer since they haven't been airborne in a year. It seems to be sorted out as NORAD is reporting he is on the runway and the elves are completing the walk around... http://www.noradsanta.org/en/track.html
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5441 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):
considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???
Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 8): Shouldn't all runways be 18 at the North Pole, regardless of their orientation.. After all, every direction is south from the North Pole....
Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.
[Edited 2012-12-24 08:46:45]
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buckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1314 posts, RR: 21 Reply 15, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1379 times:
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14): Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.
Well, if you are going to be that concise, runways for airports in the Arctic are aligned to their true direction, not magnetic.
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