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Runway Excusion On Ice Runway With Gusty Winds  
User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8866 posts, RR: 75
Posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7241 times:

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The pilot reported that there was snow and ice on the runway. He reported that a strong crosswind gust forced the experimental airplane to veer off the left side of the runway where the it struck runway lights.

Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

Full incident report on ASN : http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=151374


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7130 times:

Quoting zeke (Thread starter):
Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

Cargo pilots tend to fly in a lot worse conditions than passenger pilots, but still, you'd think that there's be enough local personnel there to do a proper field condition test.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7605 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7034 times:

Thanks Zeke

Merry Happy to you !!!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6925 times:

   Thanks for that, Zeke. I shared that story to PHX Spotters page.


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User currently offlinehailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6654 times:

considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???

User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6538 times:

Quoting zeke (Thread starter):
Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

He is time limited though! Lets hope the winds are calm enough for an uneventful take-off on Monday evening or we'll have nothing to unwrap on Tuesday morning!

Merry Christmas everyone   

Darren



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User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6387 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6116 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):
considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???

Yup! This is clearly a tower fault.

This airport has had southerly wind constantly during the last four and a half billion years. Why on earth (eah - why on ice) have they made a 13/31 runway?

And much worse, why does tower clear such a heavy cargo plane for takeoff on a crosswind runway? Especially since the runway also seems to have been contaminated.

The end users of the cargo should sue the airport for damage caused by any late delivery.



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User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6067 times:
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Thanks Zeke, I just had an amazing laugh. People are staring. I´ve shared it with all my pilot friends.


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User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days ago) and read 5414 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):

Shouldn't all runways be 18 at the North Pole, regardless of their orientation.. After all, every direction is south from the North Pole....   



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User currently offlineasctty From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Ha, Ha - very funny!!

User currently onlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

I notice the date of the incident is December 22. I am guessing this was a test flight... do a little run up of the engines on the reindeer since they haven't been airborne in a year. It seems to be sorted out as NORAD is reporting he is on the runway and the elves are completing the walk around... http://www.noradsanta.org/en/track.html

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 811 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

Haha, nice one, had a good laugh about that page.

User currently offlineokjet From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Everything seems to be sorted out and Santa is now cruising over Poland   



User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Quoting okjet (Reply 12):
Santa is now cruising over Poland

He's a few hours ahead of schedule then!

Darren



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):

considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???
Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 8):
Shouldn't all runways be 18 at the North Pole, regardless of their orientation.. After all, every direction is south from the North Pole....

Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.



[Edited 2012-12-24 08:46:45]


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User currently offlinebuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):
Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.

Well, if you are going to be that concise, runways for airports in the Arctic are aligned to their true direction, not magnetic.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7204 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Quoting okjet (Reply 12):
Everything seems to be sorted out and Santa is now cruising over Poland

Hmm I wonder what sort of type rating SLEI has     



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