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Runway Excusion On Ice Runway With Gusty Winds  
User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9029 posts, RR: 75
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 7271 times:

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The pilot reported that there was snow and ice on the runway. He reported that a strong crosswind gust forced the experimental airplane to veer off the left side of the runway where the it struck runway lights.

Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

Full incident report on ASN : http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=151374


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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 7160 times:

Quoting zeke (Thread starter):
Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

Cargo pilots tend to fly in a lot worse conditions than passenger pilots, but still, you'd think that there's be enough local personnel there to do a proper field condition test.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 7064 times:

Thanks Zeke

Merry Happy to you !!!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6955 times:

   Thanks for that, Zeke. I shared that story to PHX Spotters page.


次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlinehailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 6684 times:

considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???

User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2910 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6568 times:

Quoting zeke (Thread starter):
Seems some people just push things too hard this time of year when conditions are not conducive to a safe flight.

He is time limited though! Lets hope the winds are calm enough for an uneventful take-off on Monday evening or we'll have nothing to unwrap on Tuesday morning!

Merry Christmas everyone   

Darren



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User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6429 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):
considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???

Yup! This is clearly a tower fault.

This airport has had southerly wind constantly during the last four and a half billion years. Why on earth (eah - why on ice) have they made a 13/31 runway?

And much worse, why does tower clear such a heavy cargo plane for takeoff on a crosswind runway? Especially since the runway also seems to have been contaminated.

The end users of the cargo should sue the airport for damage caused by any late delivery.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6186 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 6097 times:
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Thanks Zeke, I just had an amazing laugh. People are staring. I´ve shared it with all my pilot friends.


MGGS
User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5444 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):

Shouldn't all runways be 18 at the North Pole, regardless of their orientation.. After all, every direction is south from the North Pole....   



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User currently offlineasctty From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Ha, Ha - very funny!!

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4579 times:

I notice the date of the incident is December 22. I am guessing this was a test flight... do a little run up of the engines on the reindeer since they haven't been airborne in a year. It seems to be sorted out as NORAD is reporting he is on the runway and the elves are completing the walk around... http://www.noradsanta.org/en/track.html

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Haha, nice one, had a good laugh about that page.

User currently offlineokjet From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2006, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

Everything seems to be sorted out and Santa is now cruising over Poland   



User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2910 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Quoting okjet (Reply 12):
Santa is now cruising over Poland

He's a few hours ahead of schedule then!

Darren



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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 4):

considering that the incident took place at the North Pole, should the runway not have been 18 ???
Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 8):
Shouldn't all runways be 18 at the North Pole, regardless of their orientation.. After all, every direction is south from the North Pole....

Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.



[Edited 2012-12-24 08:46:45]


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User currently offlinebuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 14):
Not exactly. The geographic north pole, and the magnetic north pole are rarely ever at the same point during a given time period. Over the past 100 years, the magnetic pole has traversed from Canadian arctic waters, to Russian arctic waters.

Well, if you are going to be that concise, runways for airports in the Arctic are aligned to their true direction, not magnetic.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Quoting okjet (Reply 12):
Everything seems to be sorted out and Santa is now cruising over Poland

Hmm I wonder what sort of type rating SLEI has     



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
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