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Pan Am JFK-LHR 27 Daily Flights?!  
User currently offlinePHXMKEflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 291 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15911 times:

I was looking at www.departedflights.com and find it hard to believe that Pan Am actually had 27 flights/day between JFK-LHR as it states in June 1988, that equates to a departure around every 45 minutes! Here's the link: http://www.departedflights.com/PAJFKhub.html

Can someone please confirm if this is true or not? Thanks!

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User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2224 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15891 times:

That's per week actually.

User currently offlinePHXMKEflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 15744 times:

Ok, thanks for the clarification! That's what I thought it meant but read "Numbers indicate number of daily departures to destination. Pan Am Express flights are not included in statistics." near the top of the page....kind of confusing if you ask me   

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3322 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 15506 times:

It was three a day I think, the same as BA.

[Edited 2012-12-23 09:59:13]

User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2969 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 15420 times:

Quoting PHXMKEflyer (Reply 2):

Ok, thanks for the clarification! That's what I thought it meant but read "Numbers indicate number of daily departures to destination. Pan Am Express flights are not included in statistics." near the top of the page....kind of confusing if you ask me

How can this be confusing if the header of the website states: "Weekly Departures from the New York Kennedy "WorldPort" 1979-1991???"



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5164 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 15403 times:

Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 4):
How can this be confusing if the header of the website states: "Weekly Departures from the New York Kennedy "WorldPort" 1979-1991???"

Probably because it says "numbers indicate number of DAILY departures to destination" directly underneath. I can certainly see the confusion.



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User currently offlineDLT123 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 15091 times:

Quoting PHXMKEflyer (Thread starter):
Pan Am JFK-LHR 27 Daily Flights?! !

Darn. I thought you were announcing a Pan Am resurrection.  


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12728 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 5):
Probably because it says "numbers indicate number of DAILY departures to destination" directly underneath. I can certainly see the confusion.

Plus, the columns show a specific date, and not a range for week....


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8202 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11391 times:

Yes, the standard offering from Pan Am in the eighties was three 747s a day. PA 103, the one that crashed in Scotland after a bomb went off in the cargo in 1988, was the third of the day, originating in Frankfurt mid-afternoon as a 727 and 18h00 out of Heathrow as a 747 with onward service from JFK to DTW as a 727 again.


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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3322 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10935 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
PA 103, the one that crashed in Scotland after a bomb went off in the cargo in 1988, was the third of the day,

Didn't this become "Clipper Eleven" rather quickly after Lockerbie?


User currently offlinemadviking From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9542 times:

I do recall reading that back in the very early 70s just prior to the introduction of the 747, Pan Am was operating a 707 almost every hour from the World-port to LHR in the afternoon evening period. Anyone have knowledge during this era?

User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9122 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):

Didn't this become "Clipper Eleven" rather quickly after Lockerbie?

In my early '89 timetables it was Clipper Three, but became Clipper Eleven soon after. BTW, Clipper Eleven was PA's final flight out of LHR. Also, how long did PA take to drop Clipper 103? From what I have read it takes some airlines a week or so to changed crashed flight numbers (NW 255, UA 232, AA 191, etc.).

[Edited 2012-12-23 21:00:21]


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User currently offlinemadviking From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8880 times:

Quoting 747buff (Reply 11):
it takes some airlines a week or so to changed crashed flight numbers (NW 255, UA 232, AA 191, etc.).

SAS changed SK911/912 to SK909/910 about a month after the 911 attacks.
.
Though it wasn't related to the carrier, many airlines dropped flight # 911 from their sequesce.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26029 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 5):
Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 4):
How can this be confusing if the header of the website states: "Weekly Departures from the New York Kennedy "WorldPort" 1979-1991???"

Probably because it says "numbers indicate number of DAILY departures to destination" directly underneath. I can certainly see the confusion.

Suggest send an e-mail to the operator of that website. He is normally very good at replying. I'm sure he will correct the wording to avoid the confusion mention if someone makes him aware of it.


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