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Future Of IAH #2  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4403 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 12279 times:
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Thread #1:
Future Of IAH. (by IAH59 Nov 26 2012 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 12221 times:

So I guess the reason why Air China will leave at 1:30 pm is to compete with United flight to Tokyo? Be nice to see it leave at the evening. Going to be a nice line up at evening time at Terminal D with British Airways, Aero Mexico, Emirates, Qatar Airways, Viva Aerobus, Turkish Airline, and now Air China arriving in the evening.

User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 12212 times:

I wonder where they have there Ticket counter at IAH? Only line up will be when they leave will be KLM, Aero Mexico, and, Taca.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6174 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 12164 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 1):
British Airways, Aero Mexico, Emirates, Qatar Airways, Viva Aerobus, Turkish Airline, and now Air China arriving in the evening.

I bet SQ are glad that they got in when they did to establish themselves...

Internationally, IAH will now have (aside from UA)
Viva Aerobus
Singapore
British Airways
Lufthansa
Qatar
Emirates
Turkish
Avianca (TA)
KLM
Air France
Aero Mexico
Air China
SonAir
Air Canada

Thats quite an impressive lineup. Only thing missing are some more S. American tails....LATAM maybe. Would be nice to see NZ and BW! And a return of KX



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12138 times:

Yes would be nice to see Pakistan International Airline again even though I wouldn't fly on it lol. Or Air India or Jet Airways in future.

User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12124 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 1):
Air China will leave at 1:30 pm

They arrive at 3ish pm, and leave at 1:30 AM. Thats what 0130 hours means.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 3):
S. American tails....LATAM

I remember when LAN Cargo would come in, those were the days... On another note, I'm surprised Avianca hasn't done anything in IAH. Maybe with UA dropping AUA, maybe Aruba Airlines may start service since they applied for USA routes not too long ago. Since MAR rumors have been floating around, maybe Conviasa may start service there, if not UA?



Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12120 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 4):
Yes would be nice to see Pakistan International Airline again even though I wouldn't fly on it lol. Or Air India or Jet Airways in future.

I think that may actually be UA that starts that service. Can the 787 do that?
Sidebar, I think UA can really use some, 10ish, 77Ls.



Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3956 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12122 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 3):

I bet SQ are glad that they got in when they did to establish themselves...

Internationally, IAH will now have (aside from UA)
Viva Aerobus
Singapore
British Airways
Lufthansa
Qatar
Emirates
Turkish
Avianca (TA)
KLM
Air France
Aero Mexico
Air China
SonAir
Air Canada

Thats quite an impressive lineup. Only thing missing are some more S. American tails....LATAM maybe. Would be nice to see NZ and BW! And a return of KX

Yep, a decent lineup, I wonder if I'll live long enough to see 20 carriers here? Now if the following were still around, IAH would really have a sweet line up. As for additional carriers from Latin America, as long as UA is around, I doubt that few carriers from down south would want to take on Smisek's monster.

ALIA (Royal Jordanian)(70s/80s)
South African (80s)
Gulf Air(90s)
Pakistan
China Airlines
Viasa(70s/90s)
Caymen
Air Jamaica
*Aviteca
*SHASA
*TACA
*Above 3 merged into TACA Group
Canadian (AC takeover)
Aviasca
Aero Exo



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12098 times:

I think Mexicana flew to IAH as well.

User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3956 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 12061 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 8):
I think Mexicana flew to IAH as well.

No record of MX serving IAH (at least as far as scheduled services). MX did however serve DFW and SAT.



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6174 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12044 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 5):
On another note, I'm surprised Avianca hasn't done anything in IAH.

What do you mean...they are there now.....TACA officially changes its name to AV in MArch.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 5):
Maybe with UA dropping AUA, maybe Aruba Airlines may start service since they applied for USA routes not too long ago.

When did UA drop AUA?


I know Insel has looked at a Divers Express from IAH. Lots of divers in the Houston Area.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12030 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
What do you mean...they are there now.....TACA officially changes its name to AV in MArch.

Historically speaking.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
When did UA drop AUA?

Dropping it in January, per wiki.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
Lots of divers in the Houston Area.

Just got certified last month! 



Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Oh okay I think United is dropping Aruba in 1/2013.

User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12025 times:

I don't if any of y'all live in Houston but, if you drive on 1960 around 4 to 5 oclock you use to see a Terminal Line up now you can because the fence and trees have grown.  

User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12016 times:

I wonder where Air China will open there booking office at in Houston?

User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 12015 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 13):
I don't if any of y'all live in Houston but, if you drive on 1960 around 4 to 5 oclock you use to see a Terminal Line up now you can because the fence and trees have grown.

Heading west on 1960 from Humble, if you look right before the fence, you can see from the UA hangars all the way to the beginning of Terminal B. I've seen that view many times drving to The Woodlands for swim meets.

[Edited 2012-12-23 13:50:18]


Go coogs! \n//
User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 11894 times:

All the trees are blocking now the view.

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6764 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 11738 times:

Quoting DalDC9Bos (Reply 268):
Most airlines (Non-UA/CO) who began HOU-LGA eventually ended the flights. This was tried by AA, a couple times, and smaller carrier...believe sun country for time.

AA flew HOU-LGA for quite a long time; the flights were routed as AUS-HOU-LGA to provide a one-stop from AUS which is over 1500 miles from LGA. ATA (not Sun Country) flew HOU-LGA when they were code-sharing with WN.

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 261):
Well I can't say for C but for B, the 2 north side pods were the int'l gates from the late 60s until the early 90s when D (IAB as it was called then) was opened. From what I know of terminal C's int'l gates, they were completed in the mid-80s and located on the south side of the terminal.

The international gates in Terminal C were C1-C3, which are now D1-D3. When Terminal IAB (renamed to Terminal D before Terminal E opened) was built, C1-C3 were attached to Terminal IAB and renumbered to IAB1-IAB3. That's why the walk from D4/D5 to D3 is so long; D3 is in the original Terminal C structure.

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 263):
Delta will be flying there new CRJ-900s to IAH.

Delta has been flying their CRJ-900's to IAH from most of their hubs apart from MEM & LGA. The now-discontinued DL Connection JFK-IAH service also used the CRJ-900.

Quoting DalDC9Bos (Reply 268):
Delta's relatively new service IAH to LGA, 3x a day.

LGA-IAH started with 4 daily frequencies.

Quoting DalDC9Bos (Reply 268):
I wouldn't be surprised if Virgin America added IAH service soon.

If they do, I doubt we'll see a response akin to UA's massive increase in EWR-LAX/SFO service. UA management seems bound and determined to squander their market position in Houston out of spite -- and good riddance!

Quoting shanderawx (Reply 260):
I remember flying GUA-IAH in 1960

I doubt you flew into IAH in 1960.

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 251):
I guess your right but, I just don't want HOU take IAH opportunities away. Or UA to cut down even more from IAH.With Frontier, Spirit, and, Viva Aerobus customer then will option to have a cheap ticket out of IAH or HOU so sets competition for Southwest and Hobby.

As long as the competition is there, does it matter whether the service is at IAH or HOU? If you want competition for WN, it will be more direct if it's from HOU.


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 937 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 11727 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 17):

UA is not mad at Houston at any way. They are adding capacity to IAH-LHR. IAH-AMS changed from 764 to 772 according to united.com in fall 2013.



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User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 11714 times:

I just want IAH to have big line up of carriers like other airports you know what I mean?

User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

Anybody know why Air Canada dropped IAH to Montreal? Be nice to see Air Canada flying there airbus fleet vs there express fleet to IAH. Also be nice to see them having flights to Vancouver and Edmonton.

User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 11692 times:

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 1):

So I guess the reason why Air China will leave at 1:30 pm is to compete with United flight to Tokyo?
Quoting ScottB (Reply 17):
ATA (not Sun Country) flew HOU-LGA when they were code-sharing with WN.

TZ also flew the 752/753 on the route for a short spell rather than the usual 738. I went out to HOU to catch a glimpse of them.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 17):
If they do, I doubt we'll see a response akin to UA's massive increase in EWR-LAX/SFO service. UA management seems bound and determined to squander their market position in Houston out of spite -- and good riddance!

I agree. I doubt VX will be around long enough to serve Houston any way.

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 18):
UA is not mad at Houston at any way. They are adding capacity to IAH-LHR. IAH-AMS changed from 764 to 772 according to united.com in fall 2013.

Disagree. IAH-AMS will ultimately be going 763 and as I said before if the the 763s on IAH-LHR are going to be 3-class it technically is a LOSS of 3 seats vs. the 2 daily 772s. Any way you slice it other carriers smell the blood in the water at IAH. Do you really think it is a coincidence that since the HOU debacle that we have seen WN expand at HOU, NK sprout up like a weed, and now AA going into IAH-JFK?

Quoting IAH59 (Reply 20):

Anybody know why Air Canada dropped IAH to Montreal? Be nice to see Air Canada flying there airbus fleet vs there express fleet to IAH. Also be nice to see them having flights to Vancouver and Edmonton.

Well - UA started IAH-YUL with the E70s...and AC/UA have JV transborder so there really is no need for both carriers on those routes. The routes that warrant the capacity of both airlines has them...namely YYZ and YYC. YYZ/YUL carrier a lot of price conscious transfers to Europe.



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User currently offlineshanderawx From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 11688 times:
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I remember flying GUA-IAH in 1960 (Reply 260 above)

Correction, 1970, went on immunization mission from Houston as freshman in college, had to be 1970.


User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 11684 times:

Montreal flight on UA is seasonal from what I understand.

User currently offlineIAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 11648 times:

Also Delta is getting some CRJ that they will operate those new ones to IAH.

25 IAH59 : I wonder where Air China Check in desk would be in Terminal D and if they are going to share the lounge that Emirates, Qatar, Singapore, and, Lufthans
26 thomasphoto60 : I seem to recall seeing an old Pan Am flight schedule from the late 70s that showed an IAH-GUA service.[Edited 2012-12-24 03:53:09]
27 AVENSAB727 : I understand. But You also said that it will help them compete effectively with BA. And I searched tickets for IAH-AMS on the fall of 2013. And it sp
28 st530 : With LHR and GRU soon to be served with 3-class 763s, will UA bring a Global First Lounge to Terminal E? Maybe create a lounge-within-a-lounge on the
29 st530 : Incidentally, I too thought IAH-LHR was switching to 2-class 763s with the addition of the third flight March 30. But was there ever a valid basis for
30 drerx7 : Competing effectively means better yield management and competition to BAs product offering. Its a nice boost in premium seats but overall capacity is
31 st530 : GF notwithstanding, still a net loss in premium seats from 100 to 96.
32 AVENSAB727 : Yeah, but I think the 772 is not a dummy. I think the reason for the non UA additions is because, they are getting the merger sorted out, and they ha
33 TWA772LR : Speaking of upgauging, when did CCS go from a 737 to a 753/764? I saw the 764 last night and when I checked FA, it said 753 to CCS. My dad said it als
34 drerx7 : It was Continental's practice to reallocate the Christmas idled Europe heavies to LatAm routes. SJO/GUA/CCS/MEX/GDL would see the 777/764/762 fleet.
35 IAH59 : I wonder what airline will come next to IAH? Air New Zealand or SAS or some airline like TAM from South America or Saudia? Or British Airways adding a
36 shanderawx : We flew Braniff but i think there was a Pan Am flight on the route also.
37 TWA772LR : Better chance of UA on AKL. Maybe in like, 10 years. No. They should be here already. I can see it happening, maybe with a 772 or 787. That will happ
38 LAXdude1023 : That route needs a bigger plane. US-CCS capacity is in definite need of larger planes and more frequency. IAH-CCS could easily use a 753 daily. I don
39 FlyingSicilian : It has been hinted that CO asked for IAH-MAR before and was denied.
40 AVENSAB727 : What! Really. Damn! I would have loved that.
41 aznmadsci : Why? Do you travel to MAR often?
42 AVENSAB727 : yes, I have family there.
43 IAH59 : This morning at 6:45am I saw at boeing 767 200 parked at D4. Odd?
44 TWA772LR : With all the wind we've had today, I'm sure much weirder things have happened today. I've seen all types of the UA fleet at D on good days. Usually w
45 IAH59 : Well at 6:45 am it wasn't that windy at all and it was wet outside and rained earlier but, they were loading stuff on too the plane and when I went to
46 TWA772LR : Depends on who you talk to, not everyone who works at an airport knows every little thing that goes on...
47 IAH59 : Whoever I talk just doesn't know anything. Anybody knows about this new airline called Cal jet coming to Houston from MAzaltan?
48 IAH59 : Saudia should already be at IAH with alot of business that comes from IAH to Dammam and Riyadh JEddah etc. Also I can see Spirit adding more destinati
49 IAH59 : Why won't Virgin Atlantic fly to houston? a Airbus 330 would be nice.
50 thomasphoto60 : Houston simply is primarily a business market not a leisure destination. Besides, I suspect we are not "hip-n-trendy" enough for Sir Richard.
51 IAH59 : Ah I see I just thought maybe it would be good shot cause BA and UA are making good money on that route.
52 TWA772LR : If IAH didn't see VA during the CO days with their codesharing, I highly doubt we will see VA with DL at its helm.
53 legacyins : IATA code for Virgin Australia is VA IATA code for Virgin Atlantic is VS
54 IAH59 : I wonder what new shops will come along in Terminal B and Terminal D I've heard rumors of a new Brookstone in the Terminal B.
55 Post contains images TWA772LR : I always get them confused. My bad.
56 IAH59 : Is British Airways still operating the 2nd daily flight to IAH??? Couldn't find it on there website.
57 TWA772LR : I think so. Two 77Ws if I'm not mistaken.
58 SCL767 : On 07JAN13, BA will resume twice daily service on the LHR-IAH route: BA195/AA6156 LHR-IAH B772 Daily BA197/AA6158 LHR-IAH B744 Daily
59 IAH59 : Why did it stop do you know why? Actually the BA 197 will come to Houston 2 days from now.
60 drerx7 : Holiday slow down. Happens every year. The same reason why UA/CO widebodies operate south of the border during this period vs. to Europe.
61 IAH59 : I see didn't know that any news on the Air China part yet?
62 IAH59 : Why didn't Lufthansa not fly there Airbus 380 today the only flight going to Frankfurt was United.
63 TWA772LR : Went tech, weather in FRA, plane was stuck somewhere else, the list of possibilities goes on and on. Did it just show up late or not at all? Flightaw
64 IAH59 : I looked on the flight board only flight showing was on United to Frankfurt; I thought maybe they didn't have the flight because of low traffic and fl
65 thomasphoto60 : Happens during the holidays, some of the Euros (notably BA, AF and LH) reduce flights at Christmas and New Years.
66 IAH59 : Oh Air France KLM singapore Emirates Qatar all the other airline still had flights going accept for Lufthansa.
67 FlyingSicilian : Thomas is correct it happens on a yearly basis. Every airline is different based on bookings and whatnot to choose which to cancel or change during t
68 IAH59 : Any news on Air China to IAH.
69 thomasphoto60 : Seems that any news has all but dried up, perhaps another infamous IAH non-starter.
70 IAH59 : They said they put it on hold for now. Maybe Diaz wanted them to that because he said in video that next year they will announce a new carrier.
71 AVENSAB727 : They broke the news too early. HAS has specified that an Asian carrier is coming.
72 IAH59 : Yeah according to the video Diaz said he will announce the news around the time Turkish will becoming.
73 drerx7 : Its still in GDS...just not available for booking.
74 TWA772LR : Off topic, but how does one go about checking PDEW and GDS? I have always wondered that.
75 LAXdude1023 : You have to have access to a GDS. Typically that includes airline employees, travel agents, and anyone else in the airline industry.
76 IAH59 : Talk to a United pilot he told me all the 767 will be based in Washington Dulles.
77 TWA772LR : That doesn't make since. The 767 is flown on a myriad of routes, from all of the hubs. The only plane it makes since to consolidate at one hub (SFO)
78 IAH59 : I don't know he just told me there moving all the 767's to Dulles. It didn't make sense to me either.
79 drerx7 : Well, he could be talking about the -400s. That supports a rumor we heard a while back that the 764 was going to be EWR/IAD based. Pilots usually are
80 IAH59 : Yeah he said all the Untied pilots will be doing the South America routes but, I don't know if he knows what he's talking about. Yesterday a United 73
81 IAH59 : When does Aero Mexico operate there flight to Monterrey from IAH? and What days? What days does Viva Aerobus fly to IAH?
82 Post contains links FlyingSicilian : Carpe Google: http://www.vivaaerobus.com/en/flightschedule They fly Sun, Mon, Wed, and Fri
83 IAH59 : What days does Aero Mexico fly to Monterrey from IAH?
84 TWA772LR : E was probably congested. The weather probably didn't help with that. I've seen it on clear, beautiful days too, a UA plane in D. Happens regularly.
85 RNOcommctr : Anyone know why there was an AA 777 taxiing around the west end of the terminals around 0630 yesterday, Wednesday January 2?
86 FlyingSicilian : It was a diverted flight to DFW from Brasil where a young woman died in-flight. They landed at IAH to handle that then went on to DFW. There is a thr
87 IAH59 : Wow didn't know about that American Airline flight. So what days does Aero Mexico fly to IAH from Monterrey.
88 BA0197 : AA have told us at IAH that we will be getting another DFW flight, connecting IAH to DFW 8 times a day most days. NEW IAHDFW: AA576 DEPIAH: 13:15 ARRD
89 BA0197 : Correct; however the two flights will commence on 6 JAN (tomorrow) with double daily service to LHR T5 BA0194- 77W (new AC) BA0196- 744 They are doin
90 IAH59 : Can't wait till the 3rd United daily comes into IAH hopefully BA might step up on a 3rd daily on certain days of the week. Do y'all know when Terminal
91 Post contains images BA0197 : I have no doubt that BA could fill another 772 any day to LHR. Like I've said... I've seen the loads and they are great. I would hazard a guess that
92 Post contains images TWA772LR : So the "A380 Service to IAH" chart looks to be: LH- already happening EK- will happen pending delivery of higher gross weight airframes BA- a strong
93 IAH59 : I think Qatar, Emirates, and, British airways will bring A380 vs Singapore and Air France. Singapore has less flights to Houston. Looks like Houston i
94 BA0197 : The dates I have been getting are quite variable I've heard this summer and I've heard next. Take your pick. I'm in my own little world the AA gates.
95 TWA772LR : Per wiki, sometime this year. I'd give it late January/early February 2014 at the latest. It seems to be coming along great and there has been a lot
96 IAH59 : Well hopefully things finish on time cause I can't wait to see Terminal D get renovated.
97 aznmadsci : Your statement is slightly wrong. SQ is ending the SIN-LAX-SIN nonstop along with SIN-EWR-SIN nonstop. Only EWR will lose service while LAX goes LAX-
98 BA0197 : Terminal D is in a truly dreadful state. Old, small and compact. Not what an airport that is a major gateway to the US should look like. And it is al
99 LAXdude1023 : I admire your optimism.
100 BA0197 : Mine: LH- already happening EK- Up in the air for me (I'd actually think, contrary to my original beleif, that EK might but the A380 at DFW (to feed
101 TWA772LR : EK has stated that they want to fly the A380 to IAH, and put a 10,000 sqft club in D. I think they are more committed in Houston than DFW.
102 BongoBob : From what I've been told, EK will fly the A380 to IAH beginning April 4th. They won't be able to keep their same departure time because of LH, so no
103 BA0197 : Really?! Any evidence of this? I looked in GDS and its still showing a daily 77W. But how long ago was that? A year or two. I think that DFW has been
104 drerx7 : There is no reason to think that EK would send the 380 to DFW before IAH. IAH is more profitable than DFW for them. Huge success is a stretch - a succ
105 Post contains images BongoBob : Ah sorry! must be just rumor then.. You're right though, no confirmation anywhere that I can find.. My colleague at EK must have jumped the gun on th
106 TWA772LR : I can see, if it goes back to, the double daily being an A380 on EKs morning slot, and a 77L on their current slot so they won't interfere with LH's
107 BA0197 : Good question; don't know the answer But it does seem imperative that IAH get some more A380 capable gates.
108 drerx7 : In regards to the A380...I would really only put my money on EK as the other additional bus. I would think BA would probably rather keep frequency ove
109 IAH59 : How come at IAH on the flight board I only see one flight to Frankfurt and its only Lufthansa not United and Lufthansa? Does United fly daily to Frank
110 TWA772LR : Depends on the time of day you look at it. If you look at it in the morning, it's too far out to be displayed since there are other flights that depa
111 IAH59 : I can see more of Qatar than Singapore because of the oil traffic then you have the traffic to South Asia/Middle East/ and rest of Asia then Africa an
112 IAH59 : I looked at around 2:05 is that too early? cause the flight to Dubai shows by EK around that time.
113 BongoBob : Singapore will be flying daily during the summer from May 20th until Mid-August.
114 IAH59 : Air China needs to hurry up and announce there plans to IAH. 2013 looking good for IAH Turkish Airline arriving soon then Air China then hopefully Ter
115 IAH59 : Also the Singapore daily during the summer and United 787 going international.
116 BongoBob : Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing HAS start to update Terminal D this year, especially with all of the new prospects like Turkish and an Asian carri
117 IAH59 : There suppose to add a pier at D4/D5 area and another one at D11/12 area but, 1st there going to do a pier on the D4/D5 area because you can't do on
118 IAH59 : They also need to increase the departure drop off area at Terminal D kinda tight.
119 iahredhead : I wish they would officially announce their plans to serve IAH, too. By the way, this is a good couple of threads you've managed to keep going about
120 legacyins : China Eastern still has not announced their flights to SFO but you can book it on their website. Their flights begin April 26 th.
121 IAH59 : IAH is a hub with potential that's all I gotta say its just run by idiots from the CEO of United to Diaz who's converting it to ATL.
122 Post contains links drerx7 : Coincidentally EK has just gone on record stating the desire to use the 388 to IAH. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...rjumbos-for-network-expans
123 BA0197 : Fantastic news! Now, will HAS build another A380 gate before the completion of the new Terminal D?
124 yellowtail : Only thing is that the 380 is not really ideal in its ability to carry cargo.....IAH would be much better with 2X77Ls
125 IAHWorldflyer : Maybe I'm wrong here, but the last press release I read concerning the Terminal D expansion called mainly for interior modifications. The big thing is
126 LAXdude1023 : Even as the resident DFW fan boy and the most ardent DFW supporter on this site, I will say with a straight face that IAH is more important to EK tha
127 BA0197 : I can assure you AA and EK, although not having a formal codesharing relationship, have an expansive interline agreement. I work at IAH for AA and I
128 Post contains images drerx7 : nah, not gonna happen. I would rather two daily 77Ls over the 380, but you've heard it from Tim Clark himself...he is giddy over IAH's performance in
129 yellowtail : I would be too...those F&J seats are commanding top dollar....the Y is jsut gravy. Same at QR. Same at SQ. Will be interesting to see what will h
130 TWA772LR : Is there a timeline of the future D expansion? And how is phase 2 of B looking right now?
131 Post contains images BongoBob : SQ also has complaints about having their pax use the United E lounge.. distance from the gate and service related mostly. A tad unrelated to pax side
132 Post contains images TWA772LR : This sucks... I love their chicken tenders, and everyone loved the Galley. I heard it's supposed to be McAllister's who will be replacing Gordons.
133 IAH59 : I never really liked the Gordon Galley I usually bring my lunch from home. Emirates should start cargo service to Houston.
134 Post contains images BA0197 : A real shame. Whenever I had a decent break time I would make the trek overthere (accompanied with one of my UA friends ) to get something to eat. Ha
135 BA0197 : Then hey! I guess I will be watching the LH and EK A380s from ops from now on after EK get the new version of the bus! I just wonder where EK will pa
136 IAH59 : I think D4 or D5 as another A380 gate? What do you think? Did you y'all also hear about the Wendy's in Terminal E they found a dead rat like couple m
137 Post contains images BA0197 : I am not aware of any A380 capable gates with two jetties at Terminal D except for the one LH uses (D12?). Do inform me though! No, I did not hear ab
138 IAH59 : Well I was just assuming if they need to make another A380 gate fast the next one would be around gate D4/5 before the terminal D expansion. Terminal
139 IAH59 : To start construction IAH should move some flights down to gates D1, 2, and, 3. That way maybe they can revamp another gate for another A380. If Emira
140 BA0197 : Those gates are used by UA, and, when SQ is at D4, it is my understanding that D3 cannot be used. Would LH allow that on a daily basis? To be honest,
141 BongoBob : The problem with adding another A380 capable gate at the D4-5 area right now is one of space during the afternoon bank. Currently, SQ is essentially s
142 IAH59 : Man IAH is run by some idiots good luck to Diaz and HAS on expanding cause of low gate space and I highly doubt UA will be generous to let Singapore o
143 TWA772LR : There was at one time gates D4 and D4A. I don't remember which gate became the current D4 but the infrastructure for the other gate is still there, g
144 BongoBob : well even if SQ or Turkish were to use the E-gates, it would be somewhat of a logistical nightmare for both the airline and it's handlers.. I honestl
145 Post contains images TWA772LR : I was trying to figure out how they would put in another A380 capable gate by looking at google earth, my head hurts!
146 BongoBob : Hehe yeah, I'm looking at google maps now as well. Shame it hasn't updated to show the -380 gate yet.. at any rate I don't think We'll be getting a s
147 Post contains images TWA772LR : The whole project with D is going to be quite the cluster#*$%. Pardon my French. But the end result will (hopefully) be stunning and befitting of IAH
148 IAH59 : You also have to have this whole new system that energize the A380 will its sitting at the gate which only gate D12 has. A lot more you have to do th
149 IAH59 : That's what happen you wait on Continental/United to make move while you could been finishing other projects. Yeah Terminal D is going to be a mess an
150 IAH59 : Imagine how pact Terminal D would be whenever Untied has one of there 737 or 767 departing out of T-D like they occasionally do.
151 Post contains images TWA772LR : Amen! With all the expansion IAH is seeing, or projected to see, I'm surprised they haven't started working on the "East Terminal" that the master pl
152 IAH59 : I mean it really does make sense start building a Terminal F that will be a state of the art international terminal then give Terminal D to United. I
153 TWA772LR : They should do that, after a new terminal is built, of course. D can be a new RJ-land, I'm more than positive they can put more jetways in D for RJ's
154 IAH59 : They were suppose to move the hangars to the outside and build Terminal F along side with E.
155 IAH59 : Anyone know when the next city hall or HAS meeting is about there discussion of there plans about IAH and future of it? I want to know those guys have
156 yellowtail : This is the sort of headache that airports like to have.....a "high class" headache
157 IAH59 : Air China will announce there operations to Houston on 1/15.
158 AVENSAB727 : We will see.
159 BongoBob : Where did you hear this from?
160 IAH59 : It's on the Air China coming to IAH thread.
161 AVENSAB727 : I think that UA should continue the upgauging, and soon could introduce some new routes.
162 IAH59 : United Airline was making a commercial today in Terminal E at IAH.
163 AVENSAB727 : cool!
164 AVENSAB727 : I wonder if UA will add more 787 routes out of IAH.
165 Post contains links IAH59 : Here is the offical news about AIr China coming to Houston. http://www.chron.com/business/articl...a-are-likely-this-year-4180473.php
166 IAH59 : Well they were suppose to start Lagos, Amsterdam, and, London on 787 I think.
167 AVENSAB727 : They are. I think they will be permanent
168 drerx7 : Permanent? Only LOS is permanent. LHR and AMS will be switching...
169 AVENSAB727 : I keep forgetting that.
170 Post contains images BA0197 : I actually saw this as I saw making the walk from the interterminal train to go to Gordon's Galley before it closed . They were filming at a UA custo
171 AVENSAB727 : I bet more commercials by UA will be made at IAH.
172 IAH59 : So any news on what will replace Gordon Galley?
173 Post contains images TWA772LR : And people say UA is punishing IAH, why would they punish the poster child. On a serious note, I've noticed almost every UA ad is taken in IAH, and o
174 AVENSAB727 : WOW, That is a cool fact to know,I saw one of those commercials. and The UA punishing IAH idea is simply ridiculous.
175 TWA772LR : Does anyone know if UA will upgauge IAH-Dallas anytime soon? DAL or DFW? It's a lot easier for me to commute to school or home if there are more seats
176 yellowtail : What happens if a flight is delayed. Jsut in time for the Offshore Technology Conference. SQ usually packs them in for that week. DAL_IAH really need
177 TWA772LR : Honestly, I really think DFW can use a 767 or 777, just once a day and eliminate 1 or 2 RJ frequencies. It's a good way to make money while they have
178 IAH59 : WHAT! Emirates going A380 to IAH wasn't expecting this earlier man I rather operate 12 flights week until terminal D is expanded and Emirates get the
179 Post contains links IAH59 : http://houston.culturemap.com/newsde...n-to-china-looks-like-a-done-deal/ Air China might switch from 777-300 to 787 for Houston operations.
180 TWA772LR : EK doesn't make threats, they apply pressure. For example, they are pressuring Boeing for the 777X and Airbus for a solution the wingbox problem. EK
181 IAH59 : Yeah they should convert gate D4 into another A380 gate but, KLM will use it for there 747 during the afternoon.- Can 747 use A380 gate? Later during
182 TWA772LR : Are there any airports that handle the A380 with just one jetway?
183 IAH59 : Not sure? Good idea to have 2 maybe in case anything happens or any other airlines decides to up gauge to A380.
184 Post contains links IAH59 : United Airlines rolls out with baggage delivery to your doorstep in Houston. http://articles.marketwatch.com/2013...-delivery-charge-domestic-airports
185 drerx7 : Well - they do use CR7s on some of those routes. A widebody on the route would kill the yields...the front cabin would be 90% upgrades and the revenu
186 AVENSAB727 : I wonder if UA will open more 787 routes out of IAH when more 787s arrive.
187 BA0197 : Not UA, but here at AA we are all mainline jets (MD80/83s) to DFW 7 times a day until April the second when we have been awarded with an additional d
188 TWA772LR : I only fly UA because I non-rev. And the 735 was replaced with an A319. I flew it up to DFW a couple days ago.
189 BA0197 : Just shedding a tittle more light on the Terminal D situation. The following airlines will use Terminal D: AeroMexico Connect- 3 daily E90 (once weekl
190 BA0197 : I think they are bound to. Destinations that spring to mind are: MAD (this would be a killer, at AA we get at least 50 people going to just MAD a day
191 thomasphoto60 : Think you mean CA, though CI did serve IAH some years back.
192 LAXdude1023 : IAH-MAD is a 26 passenger a day market among all carriers and IAH-HKG is not much larger. CX will not darken the door of IAH nor will IB. The local m
193 BA0197 : Yes, corrected. Sorry. I have a very hard time believing that. Is that just local or with connecting pax included? I can easily do 26 pax a day conne
194 IAH59 : According to there plan on the website they plan to renovate the whole Terminal D from the gates to security to departure lounge. So far I haven't see
195 BA0197 : Well AA used to have an AC at IAH. In, fact the room is still their next to our gates, unused. We often send Non-AA OW Sapphires and Emeralds to the
196 IAH59 : Wait got a new Airline at Terminal D its called Cal Jet there operating out of Terminal D also don't forget about the morning Atlas Air. It would also
197 LAXdude1023 : You can have a hard time believing it, but it's statistically correct per MDIT data. That is the size of the local market from Houston to Madrid with
198 Post contains images TWA772LR : I'm sure there is some local market. Plus, with the really extensive Latin system UA has at IAH, it begs the question why hasn't IAH-MAD, or anywhere
199 IAH59 : Anyone know when Houston Airport System has there next meeting for public or Houston City Council?
200 Post contains images BA0197 : My thoughts exactly. If places like BOS can support IB service to MAD, IAH must have some capability. It is strange that it has never been hinted at
201 IAH59 : Cal Jet flys on Monday and Friday from Terminal D.
202 thomasphoto60 : Well it's my understanding that IB did look at a possible MAD-IAH-MEX run in the late 80s-early 90s, but never launched the service. I suspect that L
203 Post contains images TWA772LR : Some of those flights do park at the hardstands and unload there. My only complaint with UAX primarily going to D1-D3 is that its a long a$$ walk!
204 LAXdude1023 : That has to be some sort of joke. BOS-MAD is over a 100 passenger a day market, IAH-MAD is 25% that size. Even if IAH-MAD was started by someone and
205 IAHWorldflyer : As LAXDude references, passengers transiting the USA from Latin American countries need to obtain a transit visa since 9/11 rules were put in place.
206 BA0197 : I think this is a remote possibility actually, although I'd wager a guess that they would add a frequency to FRA first.
207 LAXdude1023 : I do. I think if UA/LH is looking at expanding IAH-Europe, IAH-MUC is the next logical step. During the summer it would be no problem. The winter mig
208 TWA772LR : 764 during the summer and 787 in the winter? I think the 777 would be a tad too much.
209 LAXdude1023 : Its probably a job for an LH 333.
210 IAHWorldflyer : Interesting, I looked up the MUC airport timetable, and noticed that MUC has service almost all other Star Alliance hubs. There are flights to EWR, PH
211 LAXdude1023 : They tried DEN a few years back and it lasted a mere 9 months.
212 Post contains images GEsubsea : While I for one would love to see a LH service to MUC (its a 2 hr hop down to Salzburg and the mountains for my wife and I . However, I can't help bu
213 IAHWorldflyer : GEsubsea, that's exactly what I was trying to figure out...where would the feed for a flight like this come from? I guess you could draw connecting pa
214 FlyingSicilian : While much of it might be low yielding, there are Star connections to Med desitnations and it is an easier airport connect at than FRA in many cases.
215 AVENSAB727 : CA will make its announcement tomorrow at 11:15 AM. According to Houston spotters.
216 aznmadsci : Has HAS done any planning studies for the remodeling? At least they would have given a schematic of what the remodeling would include as well as a ti
217 IAH59 : I don't have a wet dream of moving One World carriers at Terminal D never brought that up somebody else did cause of the use of BA lounge. Well from
218 Post contains images point2point : Actually, this route started on 3/31/07, and the final flight was 10/28/08, so it's more like 19 months (maybe you forgot to write in the "1"?). At a
219 Post contains links COlover : Re IAD REMODELING, SEE http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...s-terminal-d-modernization-is.html
220 COlover : Sorry, meant RE IAH TD REMODELING
221 TWA772LR : In the morning, before the international arrival rush, the ticket counters will have two signs each for KL and AF. But since it's like 9am when that
222 IAH59 : Oh I see so Delta doesn't handle there ticketing?
223 BA0197 : Correct. I have been told by an agent that they get about 50 people from KL and AF that check-in with them a day. There are signs in TD that tell pax
224 Post contains links IAH59 : Terminal D construction http://www.fly2houston.com/0/3920701/0/83280D83283/ Terminal D Phase IIA & IIB Phase IIA work will commence during the fir
225 TWA772LR : Gotta love JV's. If DL can do this for AF/KL, then can UA do this for LH/AC. For example, can I book IAH-FRA-ASB on LH metal, at a UA ticket counter?
226 IAH59 : Work at IAH Upgrades to the Central Plant During the month of December the Contractor, SpawGlass, completed forming and placing the sump floor of Cool
227 BA0197 : To my knowledge no. The AF/KL/DL JV is unique in that regard. For instance at IAH (I don't know other about other stations, as I think that this is a
228 BA0197 : I know of some agents that will be pleased. I'll believe it when I see it. I have always been sceptical about the city. Perhaps BA, AF, and KL will g
229 Post contains images TWA772LR : That kind of setup seems much more efficient, but it I can see how it can be a little confusing for the customer. Thanks for clarifying!
230 IAH59 : I wish it could look like Terminal E check in lol.
231 TWA772LR : Hasn't Air China officially been announced?
232 Post contains links legacyins : Now Official-Air China Starting Houston July 11 (by FlyingSicilian Jan 15 2013 in Civil Aviation)
233 IAH59 : Talk to one of my friends that works for Emirates at IAH about the A380 coming to Houston he said there most likely bringing it.
234 toxtethogrady : Emirates has A380 service to IAH on a list, along with a few other cities, but I'm not sure they have the aircraft for the route. Then again, they are
235 TWA772LR : What are the other cities? Just curious... Is there any chance of UA starting service to Russia anytime soon? Or anywhere in eastern Europe from IAH?
236 drerx7 : Doubtful. Especially with TK entering the market and SQ with a Transaero codeshare.
237 shanderawx : A few years ago when the Russians opened a consulate here in Houston , we were told that a Russian carrier would soon be serving IAH, but that has bee
238 TWA772LR : If the opposite were true, then IAH would have a whole myriad of carriers.
239 thomasphoto60 : Agree with Drex, there is really no market for IAH-Eastern Europe Which is why many view such comments with a cynical eye, even if they are from airli
240 IAH59 : I think the next airline to IAH would be Saudia or Etihad anybody agree?
241 AVENSAB727 : I think UA will be the next airline to add new routes.
242 IAH59 : That too, hopefully to Santiago or Auckland or more frequency to a international destination.[Edited 2013-01-17 20:08:47]
243 FlyingSicilian : Well, while not Russian, SQ did come in and start the route to some success. Houston has a growing Russian community and growing business ties. But y
244 shanderawx : The airport officials went so far a few years ago to include ALITALIA on the airport directive freeway signs, because of such a rumore, but of course
245 FlyingSicilian : When was that? I remember some Alitalia Cargo rumours but not mainline AZ.
246 IAH59 : IAH needs to fix there billboards and there roads horrible condition.
247 thomasphoto60 : I do remember those signs. Actually, if memory serves, Alitalia and another carrier that I can't seem to recall at the moment were shown on those sig
248 FlyingSicilian : That makes sesnse. At one point it seemed every little station with Northwest had KLM signs and some in Europe at Northwest signs when their partners
249 BA0197 : AA has been given approval for new airport sign-age with the new AA logo and branding. Date unknown. We also hope to get a third permanent gate in pre
250 FlyingSicilian : You think they'll build an Ad-Club at IAH?
251 Post contains images yellowtail : I would like to see a E195 use a 380 gate. I was suggesting a 738 for DAL....not a wide body Aren't these 77Ls? It does not serve MGA, TGU and SAP...
252 IAH59 : How come on BA.com its cheaper to take IAH-DFW-LHR vs IAH-LHR? Same with United IAH-EWR-LHR. Can someone please explain to me why these non - stop tic
253 TWA772LR : I remember seeing SA and IB on those signs! Back when they were still black! When the US merger happens, I would count on it. What will happen to the
254 Post contains links iowaman : Please enjoy the discussion on part 3: Future Of IAH Part 3 (by iowaman Jan 18 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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