Well, technically, UA now flies to MNL, but from Guam. And Koror (Palau).
I'm not inclined to believe UA will launch new services to the Philippines anytime: any non-stop flights will probably be shot down by PR, which will oppose any new competition on its bread-and-butter routes to North America (to the point that it opposed the further liberalization of the Philippines-US bilateral back in the day). And I don't know if they're willing to route through another Asian city, as they do for SIN, SGN and the like.
In fairness, now that NH serves MNL (in contrast to what Viscount724 said back in the previous thread), UA can more reasonably serve the Philippines through them, rather than fly here on their own metal.
IrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6589 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
United commenced a NRT-MNL flight last year as part of its JV with ANA. Flight is specificaly designed to connect to UA services at NRT.
Indeed. I flew SEA-NRT-MNL on NH back in October and return and the flight from NRT to MNL is basically half full with UA PAX connecting from ORD, SEA, LAX, SFO, IAD, IAH, EWR etc. On the return, I was originally supposed to fly MNL-GUM-HNL and there were a fair amount of MNL-HNL traffic as well as mainland traffic using that route as well.
My MNL-NRT flight was delayed on the return and annoyingly most people missed their connecting flights to the States. Transfer in NRT was a disaster. I made my SEA flight by a hair.
I suspect you will see a US airline in KUL soon, but it won't be UA. With Garuda in line for ST membership, DL will probably add flights from NRT. They have a habit of adding flights to the hubs of new ST members.
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5279 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6220 times:
Quoting alfa164 (Reply 9): I suspect you will see a US airline in KUL soon, but it won't be UA. With Garuda in line for ST membership, DL will probably add flights from NRT. They have a habit of adding flights to the hubs of new ST members.
Garuda is an Indonesian airline with it's hub at CGK, so I don't think you're going to see them flying to KUL anytime soon. As I recall from previous discussions (which haven't changed much since OP last asked his question), U.S./KUL is pretty low yield, so I don't think you're going to see either UA or DL add an intra-Asia tag to KUL. I suspect the most we're going to get is the current UA flight from GUM.
MAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5090 times:
With Malaysia Airlines entering Oneworld in just over a months time, there is likely to be some cooperation between Malaysia Airlines and American Airlines on MHs current LAX-NRT-KUL service.
Malaysian have recently implemented codeshares with Japan Airlines too to boost its 'coverage' of major US ports like Chicago, Boston off the top of my head. I believe Malaysian is also looking to code-share with BA and AA across the Altantic via LHR, CDG, FRA and AMS for ports like JFK, EWR, IAD, MIA.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25356 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5042 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 13): I think instead of KUL UA should be looking at restoring DPS, perhaps to LAX via GUM. The tourist traffic between the West Coast of the US and DPS has to be greater than to KUL.
Longhaul routes that depend exclusively on tourist traffic are rarely profitable.
lawair From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4917 times:
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 11): Malaysia and Thailand are just not viable markets for their airlines to the USA.
While a little off topic, you're right in pointing out that US-BKK only works from the US side of things. US carriers can pool their entire US network into NRT and then carry these passengers profitably enough onward to BKK. TG can't do that. TG only has access to one city in the US and they've been relatively terrible about codesharing with US carriers. TG's online reservation engine also makes it difficult to book anything beyond LAX. Its transpacific flying can't rely on LAX passengers alone considering the competition existent in LAX and the insufficiency of Thais living and visiting LA. (Even though LA has the highest concentration of Thais living in any one US city, it's still not that many compared to other minority groups, and not enough to justify a transpacific flight on its own. By some accounts it's only 80,000. For a route that wouldn't rely on much premium traffic, that is not enough.)
Actually there is...much like with A++ (the JV between UA/AC and LH Group) all revenue and costs on the flights that are part of the JV are split between UA and NH. It doesn't matter which airline operates the flights or which airline sells the ticket it all goes into the same pot.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3709 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 21): Actually there is...much like with A++ (the JV between UA/AC and LH Group) all revenue and costs on the flights that are part of the JV are split between UA and NH. It doesn't matter which airline operates the flights or which airline sells the ticket it all goes into the same pot.
I understand that but the aircraft flying is always from ONE airline; either UA or NH, UA or AC etc. The aircraft itself is not a white aircraft; it's an aircraft in ONE airlines color.
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factsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 898 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3662 times:
Capacity between the USA and KUL has been improved this Winter season with the frequency expansion by the MH/KL cooperation on KUL-AMS-KUL from 14x to 17x weekly - currently the highest frequency KUL-Europe route. The airlines provide frequent one-stop connection from KUL to all of USA via AMS. The US East Coast being just 21 hours away from KUL over Europe and 24 hours over the Pacific.
KUL departures connect to both the early morning departures AMS-USA and the afternoon departures AMS-USA.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3474 times:
Quoting The777Man (Reply 22): I understand that but the aircraft flying is always from ONE airline; either UA or NH, UA or AC etc. The aircraft itself is not a white aircraft; it's an aircraft in ONE airlines color.
It's still metal neutral in that it doesn't matter which airline flies the flight....that's all metal neutral means. Of course it will still be scheduled as one airline or the other....
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: At one point I recall speculation that UA had considered extending the SFO-TPE flight to continue TPE-KUL, but they ended up cancelling the SFO-TPE se
: That was exactly my point. The777Man
: ...but you are incorrect that there is no such thing as metal neutral. The JV schedules capacity and flights as if there is no difference between the
: I'm not disagreeing with you on that; all I'm saying is that each airline is different therefore any flight is operated by ONE airline. I simply don'
: It does matter, actually. Fly a UA flight under a UA flight number, and you'll receive credit towards UA Million Miler status. Fly the same flight un