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User currently offlineDariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

Hello everybody, happy holidays:

I recently watched a video on YouTube of a B734 Landing at Jersey Airport from August 2011, where the British Airways flight attendant made note to keep cell phones switched off until the aircraft is parked at the gate. AFAIK, here in the United States, all carriers allow cell phones to be switched on right after landing.

Why the difference?

[Edited 2012-12-28 10:38:33]


Darius Bieber
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User currently offlineRichcandy From France, joined Aug 2001, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4484 times:

I take it you mean right after landing?

This seams to vary, for example on a flight last month to Gatwick FlyBe advised passengers not to use phones until they were inside the terminal building.

Alex

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

Quoting DariusBieber (Thread starter):
AFAIK, here in the United States, all carriers allow cell phones to be switched on right after landing.

That is not true. Cell phones can only be turned back on when at the gate and door is opened. But no one really follows that rule nor is it ever enforced. Therein lies the problem: It is an enforcement issue.


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User currently offlineDariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
That is not true. Cell phones can only be turned back on when at the gate and door is opened. But no one really follows that rule nor is it ever enforced. Therein lies the problem: It is an enforcement issue.

Hmm every time I seem to fly, the flight attendants say something along the lines of:

"Cellular phones may be used now if they are in your immediate area, however all other electronic devices must remain off until we are at the gate."

Heard on this flight at around 5:10:

YouTube

[Edited 2012-12-28 10:46:27]


Darius Bieber
User currently offlineDariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Quoting Richcandy (Reply 1):
I take it you mean right after landing?

Yes, sorry I have changed it now.


Darius Bieber
User currently offlinesfuk From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

They can be used right after landing in Canada.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
That is not true. Cell phones can only be turned back on when at the gate and door is opened. But no one really follows that rule nor is it ever enforced. Therein lies the problem: It is an enforcement issue.

Really?
Every time I land at an airport in the US (& Canada) as part of the welcome message from the flight attendants they say it's now safe to use your cell phone.

SF

User currently onlineBC77008 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Cell phones can, in fact, be turned back on and used once the aircraft has turned off the active runway.


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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 6):
Cell phones can, in fact, be turned back on and used once the aircraft has turned off the active runway.

Yep. And - at least on AA - the purser usually makes an announcement about 30 minutes before landing that if you want to use your cell phone once we land, to get it from your bag if it is stored in the overhead bin now so it will be handy upon landing.

User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4262 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
That is not true. Cell phones can only be turned back on when at the gate and door is opened. But no one really follows that rule nor is it ever enforced. Therein lies the problem: It is an enforcement issue.

It absolutely is true. When you land in the USA your cell phone can be turned on as soon as you leave the active runway (domestic flights for sure, international maybe not on a foreign carrier).

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 8):
When you land in the USA your cell phone can be turned on as soon as you leave the active runway

I guess it depends on the airline operator. Still looking for the FAR on this.... its there somewhere....


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User currently offlineryanov From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

I flew a couple of weeks ago and they made the announcement what seemed like immediately. Though it doesn't take long to get off the runway.

User currently offlinexaapb From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 374 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

Same in Mexico, two weeks ago I flew MEX-ATL with AM and right after landing the FA said it was ok to use cellphones but once entering inmigration it must be turn off again.

Greetings.


Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineplanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 989 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4004 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 9):
Still looking for the FAR on this

https://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=6275

Last line in the final paragraph for "Cell Phones: A Different Animal":

FAA guidance does let airlines allow cell phone calls once the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate.

User currently offlineTriple7X From Singapore, joined Dec 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

Quoting planemannyc (Reply 12):

Hnm, this is wierd, when flying out of SIN to other destinations, all airlines that I had took (3K/SQ/TG/TR/CX/AK/Etc) normally announce something along the line of 'communication and all electronic devices must remain switch off untill you reach the terminal building) although passengers normally start using their handphones upon landing...


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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1172 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

It's CAA requirements in the UK that you cannot switch on your mobile until the engines are shut down hence why BA/Flybe etc require you to keep them off.

However my recent experiences with both AA/UA in the US allow you to switch on while taxiing from the runway to the terminal which I must admit is a great idea. Just wish the UK would lighten up a little,,,,between that and not being able to use the likes of Kindles on takeoff is daft,


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

Quoting planemannyc (Reply 12):
FAA guidance does let airlines allow cell phone calls once the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate.

I stand corrected.... Thanks.


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User currently offlineskyhawkmatthew From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

On Qantas, as long as your flight will be disembarking at a jet bridge they make an announcement that phones can be turned on usually pretty soon after leaving the runway. For flights disembarking with stairs, they specifically state you must keep the phones off until 'well inside the terminal building.'


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User currently offlineTriple7X From Singapore, joined Dec 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 14):

So that means that most airlines in SE Asia are using CAA regulations instead of FAA?


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User currently offlineplanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 989 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
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Quoting Triple7X (Reply 13):
Hnm, this is wierd, when flying out of SIN to other destinations, all airlines that I had took (3K/SQ/TG/TR/CX/AK/Etc) normally announce something along the line of 'communication and all electronic devices must remain switch off untill you reach the terminal building) although passengers normally start using their handphones upon landing...

The above directive only applies to the US, and that too is left to airlines' discretion. I think civil aviation authorities outside the US have their own policies, and I would not be surprised if carriers use their home country's policies when at foreign airport, even if it is different than their own. So SQ might not allow you to use your phone until at the terminal at US ports, although technically the FAA allows the use of cell phones while the aircraft is taxiing to the gate.

User currently offlineTriple7X From Singapore, joined Dec 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Quoting planemannyc (Reply 18):

Thank you for your detailed explanation, so is really up to the individual airlines' policies on this matter..although i strong believe that a standard policy on this matter across the different airlines will be a better idea.

Nontheless, Thank you for your explaination  

Regards,
T7X (Justin)


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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1172 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting Triple7X (Reply 17):

No not at all....it means that many Asian nations have policies which happen to be similar to the UK and many other nations. I was only speaking for British carriers.


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User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2188 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3687 times:
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On Air NZ they make an announcement once landed that cellphones are permitted to be used once off the active runway. However, if pax have to disembark via a set of stairs on the tarmac, they must be switched off until inside the terminal.

NZ1

User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

The reason you can't leave them on while taxiing to the runway is that its more difficult to enforce turning them off before takeoff. Would lead to taxiway delays. So rule is on door closure so as to streamline taxi and departure queuing.


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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3355 times:
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CX allows you to turn on your mobile once the plane left the runway.
Their arrival announcement is " XXXX, welcome to XXX, XXXXX, you may now switch on your mobile phone...."
while the plane is taxing to the gate.

User currently offlineDariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

Thank you for all your answers! I don't see the harm in allowing the use of cell phones from the runway to the gate, especially to call relatives that your flight has landed and you're ready for pickup.


Darius Bieber
User currently offlineBAeRJ100 From Australia, joined Nov 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

I'm cabin crew for an Australian airline, and it seems to be a policy amongst all airlines here that - as others have said - phones can be used if disembarkation will occur via the jetbridge, but not if via airstairs and across the tarmac (the same goes for boarding too).

The #1 reason we are told to give if asked is due to passengers becoming distracted (also the same for having to turn them off for takeoff and landing - there is the whole interference argument but we are specifically told to inform pax it's so they're not distracted in case we need to evacuate). I have seen some people wander off in the direction of other aircraft and maintenance hangars instead of the terminal because they haven't bothered taking note of our PA's and are that absorbed with what they're doing on their phone that they simply don't have awareness of what's going on around them - at a busy time of day this can be incredibly unsafe. It can get really frustrating as we board/disembark all of our aicraft via the tarmac and generally get a lot of pax that fly with bigger airlines like QF, JQ and DJ which generally board via jetbridge and thus have the policy that phones can be used until the cabin door is shut. Normal passengers simply do not understand why their phone needs to be turned off because the way they see it is "other airlines let me", they don't realise the amount of safety protocols in place because of how easy it can be for people with little/no idea to cause something to happen.

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