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User currently offlinetrinxat From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

Hi everyone, it is well known that Iberia is undergoing a major crisis that is affecting its own future, after the announcement to cut down 4.500 jobs.

Recently newspapers in Spain have reminded of the salaries that IB staff earn, around 200.000€ a year for pilots and 74.000€ in average for cabin crew, among other advantages earned over the years, one of the main reasons for IB poor economics according to the management

Article in spanish only - sorry
La Vanguardia - Salaries 4 times higher than a "low cost"

It is also a well known "tradition" the seasonal strikes that IB cabin staff, pilots, ground crew call every year in Spain at the very peak holiday periods (Easter, August, Christmas) to allegedly protect their labour rights and also obtain more benefits and advantages, which in view of the above, seem a bit out of the market

Not sure about what conditions do other mainstream airlines staff enjoy (not talking about low cost carriers), but IB may well have the worst salary vs quality of service ratio!

Anyway that is my (biased) view of course, any others?

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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

You always have to be careful in quoting what the wider media suggest about a work forces salary.

I know when my own airline was attacking the T&Cs of my colleagues incredible salaries where quoted by the media (released unofficially by the management of the airline to them) in order to win the "pr" battle and obscure the facts. I know I often found myself questioning where the other 50% of my apparent salary had disappeared....then there was the further embarrassment of having to tell family and friends that the truth is I didn't earn anything close (nor live the lifestyle that was suggested) to what was being quoted, infant even on these forums so many posters believed what they read,

That is why in the case of Iberia which is playing out all too familiar to me ("fight for survival" blah blah blah) I find it hard to believe anything I am reading. I don't doubt there are desperate problems there but when it comes to these sort of details I would not be quick to comment nor should anyone else without the real facts!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineicaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5436 times:

I cannot speak for pilots but no way do IB cabin crew earn that much money. Not even the oldest purser makes that money, let alone on average.
How do they get to that amount? It could be that they include all cost associated to cabin crew such as courses, social security, taxes and so on.
Even an Easyjet spokesperson said recently that the problem with IB staff wasn´t about salaries, but with flexibility.


User currently onlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 956 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5138 times:

EUR74k is a lot for a flight attendant; could that include per diems as well as top-of-scale pay? Didn't flight attendants at CO make around $80k year after maxing out? That would seem "reasonable" im my book given how hard the flight attendant lifestyle must be on one's quality of life.

User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 3):

As I was saying, I seriously doubt any IB cabin crew make even close to that amount!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineicaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Not even with per diem do IB flight attendants get to that amount. I tell you it is ridiculous. I don't know how the company got to that amount. I could think it includes all cost associated to a flight attendant or they just made it up for the press.

User currently offlinestrandedinbgm From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Quoting trinxat (Thread starter):
74.000€ in average for cabin crew,

$97,000 US for cabin crew? I'm getting Rosetta Stone and moving to Spain.



It's 737s, 747s and 380s. Not 737's, 747's and 380's. Learn to use the apostrophe for crying out loud.
User currently offlinetrinxat From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

In a country where ATCs earn also more than 200.000 euros p.a. in average while the minimum salary is 748€ a month, anything is possible!

User currently onlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 956 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1688 times:

Quoting trinxat (Reply 7):
In a country where ATCs earn also more than 200.000 euros p.a. in average while the minimum salary is 748€ a month, anything is possible!

I've heard the story about the Spanish air traffic controllers before as well, although I would swear some paper quoted a million euros. The problem is that those types of jobs are intended to be well-paying but end up seemingly inflated through renewed CBAs, etc. That can make the unions look like they're overreaching but then the level of those salaries do show the power of collective bargaining in some situations.


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