Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB  
User currently onlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 245 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10020 times:

Just saw that GoJet 3645 slipped off the taxiway in ALB. The plane was under the United Express name. Ship 165, a CRJ-700 according to UA's site.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12...nited-jet-slips-off-runway-in.html


Clear skies and strong tail winds.
21 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10014 times:

Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10002 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):

Considering the weather the northeast has been getting today I would have to say this event is not unexpected. I'm surprised the flight even left. The roads here in NW Connecticut are horrendous right now.
Blue



All of the opinions stated above are mine and do not represent Airliners.net or my employer unless otherwise stated.
User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9962 times:

Oh I'm not surprised. Just seems like its been an unusually interesting week. I wonder if they were playing drag racers like the WN pilots that went of the Taxiway in DEN? :p

User currently offlinebexf27 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9938 times:

It has been bad here in New Hampshire too. Maybe the pilot should have stayed at the airport instead of going on the roads from the airport. Then the pax and crew would not have been bused back to the airport.      


Planes I flew: 707, 727-100, 727-200, DC9, DC10, 747, L1011, 757, 767, A300, 777, PAN, F27, Shorts 330 and 360, 1900,
User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3338 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9832 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

The northeast has been getting slammed on and off with bad weather these last few weeks. I'm truly not surprised and hope that the aircraft didn't sustain too much damage, which, if it just hit a snowbank, I can't imagine it did. Little chance of FOD in theengines, which is one of the nice things about RJs.


\________(---)________/ :) World's most beautiful aircraft: 757-200, MD-88/90, E-190, A321
User currently offlineJetfixr757 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9809 times:

So it's not just the WN guys!!
Jet


User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9809 times:

The article says 66 pax. That is one full CR7. IIRC, that is the capacity of the Gojet UX CR7s. Maybe the article put in the Max capacity to help non a-nutters get a feel for the aircraft size.

User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2087 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9642 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

UA787,
It could be a full flight with people flying home from their Xmas trips plus people from earlier canceled flights. Also before I forget must have been a former WN pilot because as you know they taxi too fast and are dangerous
 



Frontier Early Returns Ascent Status| Webmaster of an unoffical TTN page see profile for details
User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 645 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9418 times:

Ah N165GJ. Such fond memories of working that aircraft in PWM. T'was involved in a lot of firsts for me. First aircraft ever worked as a ramper, first pushback, etc.

User currently offlineONT2CGI From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9316 times:

Well, The ALB paper added four more passengers:
http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...ets-caught-in-snow-and-4154638.php
I was bit surpized that it was operarting yesterday, too.


User currently offlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5702 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8735 times:

This must be fake..only WN Planes go off the runway or taxiways don't you know?

In my experience G7 Pilots taxi fast a lot so it was bound to happen, we need to investigate what they were doing the night before that would cause them to do this!

*Sarcasm noted, actually said by a.net members about WN, sounds ridiculous now doesn't it?*

In all seriousness, glad everyone seems to be ok, looks like a minor slip which happens to EVERY AIRLINE and plane and pilots.

Quoting Reply 10):
Well, The ALB paper added four more passengers:

Technically, it's still 66 passengers, plus the 4 crew members which would equal 70. 66 Paxs, 2 Pilots and 2 F/A's.

The 66 passengers and four crew members were sent back to the airport by bus.

Source: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12...s-off-runway-in.html#storylink=cpy

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

Pfft. WN coming and taking a GoJet CR7, adding 4 seats, and going right off the taxiway. Maybe bussing pax is a new Low Cost strategy? WN: I'm watching you.

So it sounds like it was a full flight, most likely due to Christmas. Thankfully, the "crash" doesn't sound bad.


User currently offlinekstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6289 times:

Eh, the weather in ALB was average yesterday due to the snowstorm. Wasn't as bad as Wednesday night/Thursday when I flew in, which I was lucky to do so. It was pretty slick though, so not surprised by this.


ALB, DTW, ORD, MDW, MCI, JFK, LGA, LHR, MAD, MSP, IAD, DCA, MCO, ATL, CVG, TUL, MHK, PHL, PIT, DFW, DAL, CLT, IND, AUS,
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):
Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

Hoping that's sarcasm. Taxiing an aircraft in wintry conditions that's not designed to "drive" well on the ground, which has tires that aren't designed for maximum grip at taxi speeds, on surfaces that are either untreated or not treated in the "conventional" sense (not to mention not designed like roads), can be like trying to walk across a sheet of ice in tennis shoes. Not fun.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6118 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5759 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 8):
Also before I forget must have been a former WN pilot because as you know they taxi too fast and are dangerous
Quoting atrude777 (Reply 11):
This must be fake..only WN Planes go off the runway or taxiways don't you know?

No, that's not the case. They're pilots who just so happen to work for a regional airline, so they're inherently unexperienced and unsafe.  banghead 

[Edited 2012-12-30 11:16:40]


Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

Not surprising. Relatives said they got another 3 inches over the weekend, in addition to the foot or so last week. This whole thing could have gone much worse. Runway 1/19(which I'm assuming this flight was using) goes right up to major, heavily travelled roads, Troy Schenectady Road to the north, and Albany Shaker Road to the south.


E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/319/320/321/333
User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Nah...It was a 70 seat CR7 operated by inherently unsafe and inexperienced pilots trained by the WN guys from the taxiway adventure in DEN or ISP.  

Have there been any problems with the road being right next to 1/19?


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 17):
Have there been any problems with the road being right next to 1/19?

They are two different separate roads at each end of the runway. Years ago (in the 50s), an AA plane crashed onto Troy-Schenectady Road at the north end of 1/19. That's the only incident I can think of.

A couple of years ago, they extended 1/19 even closer to Troy-Schenectady Road by about 1300 ft or so. They added an EMAS at this time as well.



E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/319/320/321/333
User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2725 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):
Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

If you could ditch the condescending, arrogant attitude, I'd love to have you on the jumpseat sometime. Two weeks ago for instance, turning off of runway 22 at LGA onto the parallel. First landing in five weeks, wind 270/25G35, night, driving rain, traffic close behind, and my side view window all scratched up with barely any lighting to my left in the dark with hangar lights and a nearby pickup truck waiting for us to move, adding just a bit more glare that we didn't need.

You have a lot to learn!


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3338 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2536 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I really don't want to get too far involved in the "pilots should know how to keep their planes on the taxiway" argument, but I do feel this needs to be said:

Never criticize ir soeculate before you've been incthe position yourself. I am planning on training to be a pilot (when I go to college in a few years   ) so I can't wait to see what I learn. Many things seem so much simpler than they are, and I am waiting to see what I experience when (if) I am sitting up front.

As GoBoeing said, this stuff isn't as simple and easy as it seems from the outside. Plus, this GoJet (I'm not even getting into the WN argument....) was in bad weather. Had this been on a sunny day, it PROBABLY wouldn't have happened.

I just suggest we stay on topic and try not to demean or label people for things that are just not true.



\________(---)________/ :) World's most beautiful aircraft: 757-200, MD-88/90, E-190, A321
User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Quoting GoBoeing (Reply 19):

I always found landing at LGA in the wintertime was more of an act of self preservation than anything else.

BTW. Nothing like setting the parking brake and sliding UP a slight grade at idle thrust. Ground ups suck in snow and ice.


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Plane Off Taxiway At DEN posted Sat Nov 10 2012 16:42:14 by WN787
Plane Off Taxiway @ ATL posted Tue Mar 13 2012 03:08:58 by gib
Cargolux 744 Off Taxiway In MST posted Tue Mar 17 2009 02:02:06 by Severnaya
Aircraft Slides Off Taxiway In IND posted Wed Dec 17 2008 04:48:56 by Allstarflyer
Plane Off Runway In YYZ Tonight? posted Wed Dec 17 2008 02:36:44 by Bakersdozen
CRJ Slides Off Taxiway In DTW posted Sat Jan 20 2007 04:28:24 by Northwestair
UPS DC-8 Off Taxiway In OAK posted Fri Dec 22 2006 05:51:47 by Dispatcher
AirTran 717 Skids Off Taxiway In ROC posted Tue Dec 20 2005 23:23:14 by LHMARK
DL A/C Off Taxiway In BUF? posted Sat Dec 17 2005 05:26:57 by Werdywerd
SAS Plane Off Taxiway At ARN posted Thu Dec 16 2004 10:38:59 by Treg