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Aeroflot A320 Holding Above BUD Now Due to Weather  
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15315 times:

Flt SU2030

On flightradar24.com, A320 from Moscow, in a holding patern for about 30 min now, altitude 18000 ft. Flt SU2030

All other flights depart and land normally. I expect flaps or landing gear fault.

[Edited 2012-12-31 03:48:56]

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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15243 times:

Plane was supposed to land at 10:30 AM CET, delayed until 11:30 according to the airport website bud.hu, and is still in a holding at 18000 ft.

I wonder how much fuel is onboard, getting close to one hour in holding now.


User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15194 times:

Listening to BUD approach here: http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=BUD
They've just been told to cancel holding and descend.

[Edited 2012-12-31 04:01:29]

User currently offlineawthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15157 times:

Yes, see him now, still at FL180.
I can count around 17 circuits around the holding pattern already.


User currently offlineawthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15157 times:

Descending now through 11000ft.

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15054 times:

Climbing to 16000 , diverting to Vienna. Something to do with visibility , but others are landing normally. Could it be that the ILS systems onboard failed?

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14895 times:

What a mess. Ryanair going into a holding now, Brussels Airlines aborted landing at flt lvl 14. Easyjet going to hold now as well. Visibility between 150 -275 mtr

User currently offlineawthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14806 times:

Ah, borderline visibility at BUD, hopefully he can get straight in at VIE as he must be well through his fuel by now.

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14738 times:

Brussels airlines aborted 2nd landing at last moment, holding now, Ryanair trying 31L now. Easyjet holding.

User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14410 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 8):
Easyjet holding.

Easyjet (U23853, G-EZPG) appears to be diverting to Vienna and the Ryanair flight just landed.



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14345 times:

Weird thing is that I am in Eastern Budapest and its clear and sunny.  

User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13992 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 6):
flt lvl 14.

FL14? Sure you meant 1400ft?

Latest METAR: LHBP 311300Z VRB03KT 0100 R31L/0275N R31R/0175N FZFG VV001 M02/M02 Q1026 NOSIG

Freezing fog, vis 100m, RVR 275/175m CAT III conditions. Pilots probably not capable, just holding to wait to see if it clears.

[Edited 2012-12-31 05:29:53]

[Edited 2012-12-31 05:31:24]


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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13973 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 11):
FL14? Sure you meant 1400ft?

Yep  


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3741 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13904 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 11):

Seems weird that Aeroflot pilots would not be CATIII-rated. Maybe the aircraft isn't, or a system failure/MEL is preventing it to operate CATIII.



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12392 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 10):

Yeah, interesting indeed! We passed BUD this early morning on LX147 to ZRH and all of Budapest was in the clear, yet the METAR we requested showed CAT III conditions so bad thatnwe couldn't use it as an emergency aerodrome 


User currently offlineusair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 822 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12276 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 13):
Seems weird that Aeroflot pilots would not be CATIII-rated

I'm sure it happens at every airline. One time on the ramp at PHL you couldn't see 15Ft in front of you. We were completely fogged in and waiting for the final flight to land from Vegas. The plane had to divert to KPIT to pick up another pilot because the captain was not qualified to land CatIII. This was working for WN.


User currently offlineadriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11942 times:

I just flew over Budapest two hours ago and landed in Belgrade. It looked quite clear over the city, certainly at 11:30am all of the city and airport seemed visible. It was extremely turbulent over Hungary however. Belgrade is shrouded in deep fog however

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11579 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 14):
Yeah, interesting indeed! We passed BUD this early morning on LX147 to ZRH and all of Budapest was in the clear, yet the METAR we requested showed CAT III conditions so bad thatnwe couldn't use it as an emergency aerodrome


Hey Sandro,

I flew LX last week, BUD-ZRH-AMS and was wondering if you were crew before I noticed you are flying the big birds now, congrats! Enjoying it?

Funny thing is that now the fog is really thick inside the city, and the airport receives planes without problems. 


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2418 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9297 times:

Quoting cloudyapple (Reply 11):
Pilots probably not capable
Quoting francoflier (Reply 13):
Seems weird that Aeroflot pilots would not be CATIII-rated.

Could be an RVR limitation as well. If the RVR is below CAT III A minimums (less than 600ft, so roughly 200m, which according to the METAR at the time, very well could have been), even a CAT III certified pilot and aircraft don't necessarily have permission to try the approach.

Thenoflyzone

[Edited 2012-12-31 08:43:28]


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User currently offlineDAL763ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8905 times:
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How does the different landing category certification work? Why can a pilot not be certified to land in a certain weather category? Can he not just use the autoland? Apologies if the questions seem odd, but I've always wondered about this.


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User currently offlinemm320cap From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 227 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8396 times:

At least in the USA, Captains that are newly checked out are considered "Hi Minimums" for a period of time. Those minimums gradually improve as time in the seat increases, and culminates after reaching the minimum number of hours required and conducting 2 CATIII approaches in the airplane. Additionally, if this is a Captains FIRST upgrade seat, the times are different (higher)

User currently offlineemp From Austria, joined Jul 2009, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

It seems like the visibility is bad again, a lot of holdings going on over BUD ...

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5128 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7028 times:

Quoting emp (Reply 21):
It seems like the visibility is bad again, a lot of holdings going on over BUD ...

Yes, im watching flightradar24 and listening to ATC, fun for me, not for them. I count 2x Wizzair, 1 easyjet, 1 Air France and 1 Turkish in holding or trying to land again after holding.


User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

Any development to the SU flight?

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