ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7232 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 25991 times:
Happy New Year every one, the points discussed towards the in the previous posts have been:
-Rob Fyfe's Tenure as CEO is now over, Christopher Luxon takes over
-WLG Runway being too short for any real long haul service
-ZK-MVB now in the country after a delivery flight
-JQ versus NZ in terms of reliability and customer satisfaction
NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 25750 times:
Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 2): Can someone summarise management changes that Chis Luxon has ( apparently) made . Are there any new senior management changes rumoured?
Umm I think he simplified it and merged GM long haul and GM domestic/short haul into the COO position that Bruce Parton now has. Not really sure about other changes (nothing has been said about it) or it could be the fact that there are none.
aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 3062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 25689 times:
Quoting haggis73 (Reply 4): "He said he was finalising his "Go Beyond" strategy for the airline which would be unveiled in the next two months."
I'd be impressed if they can reach the $180m profit target - though it seems focusing on profitable domestic ops is a pretty good strategy for achieving this. They are the airline's bread and butter afterall.
Out of interest - does anyone else think the days of the B1900s might be numbered? Purely anecdotal but family visiting AKL from Blenheim have noted increasing ATRs on their route and are booking only those flights for both work and pleasure - the difference in comfort and service is substantial. I guess it wouldn't be economic for super short haul hops like WLG-BHE but with more ATRs coming online, I wonder if the Beech numbers will at least be reduced.
Mariner - in the previous thread you asked why I raised the issue of Jetstar raising fares, backing down, then cutting CHC-ZQN in response to your post. I did so because you were likening passenger demand on JQ to passenger demand on FR (I don't know how to quote between threads but can go cut and paste if you want me to). My point being that JQ can only seem to attract passengers with lower fares than NZ and it has had to pull off a fairly heavy tourist route because pax numbers (or yield) just aren't there to support it. So no, passengers aren't flocking to JQ and I believe the primary reason is its atrocious reliability issues.
NZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6715 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 25674 times:
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 5): I wonder if the Beech numbers will at least be reduced.
Or even be confined to the shorter routes such as WLG-BHE/NSN/PMR etc. Quite interesting about the AT7 being used.. Are they out of capacity with the Q300? I'd be surprised if they could fill a few AT7s on AKL-BHE. I think there's still a place for the B1900D.. Even if it's for increasing frequencies. Can the B1900D operate into Milford Sound? That'd be a sight to see.
mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 27671 posts, RR: 81
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 25632 times:
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 5): Mariner - in the previous thread you asked why I raised the issue of Jetstar raising fares, backing down, then cutting CHC-ZQN in response to your post. I did so because you were likening passenger demand on JQ to passenger demand on FR (I don't know how to quote between threads but can go cut and paste if you want me to).
I was puzzled because I have (generally) found it applies to various LLC's, all the ones I follow, whose passengers are, usually, exceptionally price sensitive - to the actual fare, not necessarily to the ancillary charges.
I don't consider Air NZ - yet - to be defined as LCC, although it certainly has lower fares available.
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 5): So no, passengers aren't flocking to JQ and I believe the primary reason is its atrocious reliability issues.
Passengers may not be flocking to 'em - I don't know, but I'm happy to take your word for it. The reason I raised Ryanair is because, to generalise again, the perception of the airline doesn't seem to have a detrimental affect on its business.
nzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1553 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25354 times:
And a lot of the pax are flying Oneowrld internationally and connecting to JQ. Though I think (correct me if wrong) some are now interlining with NZ to avoid hoisting their premium pax onto a lousy JQ service.
CX now offers only NZ connections when booking through their website .
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7232 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 25341 times:
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 11): Yeah I am quite surprised by the lack of flights to Stewart Island and out to The Chathams
I think demand or lack of aside, there isn't really a machine apart from the convair that can pull it off very well. There's no fuel avaliable in the chats afaik so all flights in would have to be tankering. The journey is 400 miles from the nearest NZ airport, meaning that it's not really do-able with a tankering sector, plus weather/tech alternates if needed etc
zkojq From Armenia, joined Sep 2011, 2193 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 25309 times:
Regarding the JetStar discussion.... I flew quite a few sectors with them between 2009 and 2011 and every flight was delayed (by between 5 minutes and 3.5 hours). I'm sure JetStar must work for some people, but it just can't be relied on if you need to be somewhere by a fixed time. Now that Air New Zealand has their 'NightRider' fares, I don't really see why anyone other than those burning Qantas Points would use them.
The article says that and additional (to what was previously planned) A320 is being added to domestic operations this year. Does anyone know if this is an existing option converted to an order, an order brought forward from next year or a Tasman aircraft being converted/switched to domestic operations? I would love to know.
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 14): But yes other factors come in like liferafts etc
My first thought. Must be quite a squeeze to get them in a B1900D, if that is even possible.
Remember the days in this thread when Picton-LAX was brought up? Haha.
Quoting zkojq (Reply 15): I don't really see why anyone other than those burning Qantas Points would use them.
But even then, why would you bother burning QF points on them.. Burn points to get delayed is not really the ideal situation. I'd much rather just pay to fly Air NZ and have more assurance of getting to my destination either on time or at least on the day I booked for.
zkojq From Armenia, joined Sep 2011, 2193 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 25270 times:
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16): But even then, why would you bother burning QF points on them..
In my case, because the points were about to expire and the travel was non-important VFR.
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16): I'd much rather just pay to fly Air NZ and have more assurance of getting to my destination either on time or at least on the day I booked for.
As would I had the flights been paid for in real $$$, since they weren't it wasn't too much of an issue if the trip ended up getting cancelled. Getting stuck at the destination because of JetStar is always a concern, however.
kiwirob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 10134 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 25242 times:
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 11): Yeah I am quite surprised by the lack of flights to Stewart Island and out to The Chathams.
Population on Stewart Island is about 400 people, not really a big enough to support more than one airline, Stewart Is isn't much of a tourist destination either. The ferry from Bluff is dirt cheap with multiple crossings per day.
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 14): Which is something that could be changed if commercial ops began
So NZ would need to first invest in a small fleet of twotters or convair's, employee a pool of pilots, set safety, training and maintenance standards and policies, invest in ongoing training to continually refresh pilots in these standards. We haven't even looked at other inferstructure costs such as check-in areas as an example.
Someone needs to install fuel tanks according to this, who will be paying for that upgrade? I would suggest it would be a fairly hefty set up cost. How would refuelling of these tanks be done? sounds like a pipeline to the wharf would be needed. Again that sort of construction isn't cheap.
NZ is struggling to make a reasonably isolated East Coast city of 34,000 work (GIS) and has failed to make one of NZ's key winter getaways' work (WKA) - how would a remote, hardly visited island of 400 work?
You would be competing with a very economical option of the ferry and there is already an established air operator which I imagine would be supported heavily by the locals over a big corporate from AKL.
At best you would be operating 1 service day and you'd be looking at a multi million dollar set up for this operation. If NZ makes the $180M this year, is that sort of investment worthy? what contribution will Stewart Island play in NZ's future results?
zkncj From New Zealand, joined Nov 2005, 1765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25030 times:
Does anyone know what the minimum runway length is for a B1990D? been looking all over the net but haven't been able to find a guide.
The main runway at Great Barrier is 930m, an ATR 72-500 on a flight under 300nm only requires 1000m runway length. Therefore surely an B1900D would be able to take off from Great Barrier, if not just a short exntention need to the runway.
deconz From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24915 times:
Quoting kiwirob (Reply 18): Population on Stewart Island is about 400 people, not really a big enough to support more than one airline, Stewart Is isn't much of a tourist destination either. The ferry from Bluff is dirt cheap with multiple crossings per day.
The ferry is $ 71 each way - I'd hardly call that "dirt cheap" for a 1 hour crossing!!!
Flight from IVC (which saves having to get to Bluff where the ferry departs from) is $ 115 one way and $ 198 return
deconz From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24902 times:
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 13): I think demand or lack of aside, there isn't really a machine apart from the convair that can pull it off very well. There's no fuel avaliable in the chats afaik so all flights in would have to be tankering. The journey is 400 miles from the nearest NZ airport, meaning that it's not really do-able with a tankering sector, plus weather/tech alternates if needed etc
I'm not sure about the fuel situation on the Chats. However, Air Chathams used to operate a Metroliner so I'm guessing the B1900D should be able to manage it.
: The metro liners run on avgas, so they may of had a small supply there?
: The metro runs on Jet A1. Garretts don't like avgas much. Chat's have there own fuel tanker on the Island, don't think they would share with anyone e
: Ahh ok my bad, didn't show on the plate
: They can run up to 100 hours on avgas before needing an inspection (something which they would probably need by that time anyway).
: Yes that is true, they can be run on av gas although it's not a great recipe for a long, efficent and trouble free life. Aside from "SOAP" samples, t
: btw, how much longer can Air Chathams keep those Convair 580s flying?
: Aren't they like 50 already? surely not much longer than they currently are. I have heard rumors that they where looking into second hand ATR's, whic
: I was told they zero lifed a C580 relatively recently. Or was that another company in NZ? An engineer from Feildair in Palmy was talking about it
: 'Winds force Jetstar flight back to Auckland' It seems JQ were having a few problems on Wednesday, ! ''A Jetstar flight bound for Wellington was turne
34 Mr AirNZ
: If you divert to the point of origin, chances are accommodation will be sorted for a good many people who can just go home. Divert to CHC and you've
: They could have chosen to divert to PMR, then bus everyone from PMR-WLG. Although this would mean JQ would need to pay NZ to use its ground services
36 Mr AirNZ
: There really is quite a bit more to it than that. Even Air New Zealand at times when weighing up different factors will not necessarily divert to PMR
: AKL really needs a hide codeshares option on there website!
: Agreed This applies to most websites though and not just AKL's site.
: A few more years at least, I think. They're well maintained and according to the pilots, they remain the best plane for the job - rugged and able to
: Had a look at the Domestic schedule for April 2013 as ZK-MVC will be in service then. No ATR's BHE-AKL-BHE but two Q300's Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun, one Q30
: That should be two Q300's Mon to Fri and Sun, no Q300 Sat, as follows: Mon, Thu, Fri AKL-BHE 0800/0925, BHE-AKL 0945/1110. Tue and Wed AKL-BHE 0810/0
: I would say by the time that more AT7s have arrived and more 733 have left the fleet, I can see CHC-WLG-CHC got completely ATR.
: and an additional A320 is to be added to the domestic fleet. How many 733/A320 will this be essentially flying AKL-WLG/CHC and return ? Something lik
: When A320 arrives a 737 leaves the fleet, they had 16 733s but only ordered 14 A320s to replace the 737s. So once they have completed the change over
: isn't it about time we saw ZK-MVB out and about?
: I read somewhere it's starting mid Jan.
: I hope to see a piacture of ZK-MVB along with the All Blacks 32S and 77W! On a completely different note, is the 777 in The Hobbit colors here to stay
48 Mr AirNZ
: Just to clarify, no additional A320 has been ordered. The delievery of one on order has simply been moved forward from 2014 to 2013. The domestic fle
: Can't remember the length of the contract, I think it was about 2 years?
: Why? It's MVA which is painted in the All Blacks c/s. Started to peel already as well.. Who knows how long it'll last!
: This was discussed in the last thread. I feel necessary to post here again now that New Zealand Herald has reported the real story. These tourists wer
: Xiaotung, Even I defended those tourists on the last thread, and I really don't think that they have been targeted for their behaviour. I actually app
: This doesn't really work in NZ or Oz, because our dollars are not green (or even paper), but as I would say of US dollars - Jetstar dollars (and Air
: When is the rest of the fleet due to be painted in the same livery MVB has? Or are they only doing some aircraft?
: 777-300's will be done in first half of this year. 777-200's will be done second half of this year and into next year. A320's will be progressively d
: Zero Lifeing (zero life) pretty much means you rebuild the whole thing (including new skin etc) so the aircraft is effectively brand new. As far as I
: Oh sorry, I misread it. Thanks for the definition. Great, looking forward to see another Air Chats Convair in the air again! I'll upload a pic of it
: I think when it comes to millionaires they are subject to the same English capabilities as you describe or most likely worse. It's the growing middle
: Why would it? NZ like any other start carrier are required to have a certain % of aircraft painted in star colours. Are some of the International A32
: With the new cheap and nasty livery it'll be pretty simple to add the star graphic to the tail and side of the aircraft.
: Ha! True. Now that I think about it, it almost is the Star Alliance livery. Cheers for that - seems sensible. The number of AA passengers I met (duri
: No, nothing like. It's the scope of the respective operations. NZ has BEH/DH8/AT7/733/320 fleet spread across the country(Int and dom) to best suit t
: The Australia GM is relocating to Auckland. http://www.travelweekly.com.au/trave...y/news/search-begins-for-air-nz-gm
: Are all JQ A320s RNP equiped, which I guess mainly comes into effect for ZQN ops?! Looking ahead I see NZ has in July August 2013 upto 5 weekly 772s t
: I was just assuming (probably wrongly) that a new route would start out being operated by the smallest aircraft in the Air New Zealand Link fleet. Be
: yup, I was there in 2009 (also on a day trip ) - is it still this one: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000580362.html Cheers micha[Edited
: What about the link aircraft? Has it? Surely with the rebuild bringing a lot of workers from the UK and Ireland, and some allocentric tourists maybe
: They are not that bad actually . This is coming from someone who hates tiny planes .
: The one hour later departure from HKG probably has something to do with daylight savings. The previous years have seen the same change.
: Ahh ok, thanks. I wonder what plane is being zero lifed then..
: Sorry if I was unclear before... The plane in question has already been rebuilt/born again. I was told that it was done not too long ago (A few years
: I suppose it does make sense - the way to do it would be to extend it at the same time of the zero life; therefore it would probably be one of the CV
: I totally agree - I love flying on them! An added bonus is the view to the flight deck - no door And obviously it has not just been stored - when I w
: I'm aware of that. Currently showing for NS13 HKG 1910 AKL 1000 which is an hour later than previous years for that time of year, meaning the NZ and
: No no, you may as well give them a go for the novelty factor, and they are a step up from Bandeirantes and Metroliners, not to mention the alternativ
: yes exactly. JQ have 8 here for International and domestic - it basically means that if they have delays then they can lose 25% of their total NZ fle
: The most efficient solution would be to change AKL-HKG to a morning departure, something Air NZ will have to do if it intends to connect South Americ
: Virgin Australia are upgrading their reservation and check-in systems this weekend. The biggest change that the public will notice will be that the DJ
: As a member of CX's FF program ' Asia Miles' had the latest email today, Air New Zealand partners with Asia Miles On 31 January 2013, Air New Zealand
: Probably used initially as a spare parts plane I'd imagine, now I guess it's left to rot maybe? who knows. I also see on stuff that JQ has a few nega
: Not sure if that is true, IMHO they are quite similar, both are not generous programmes. But then, I think CX is smarter than NZ in pricing for AKL-H
: I guess the real motivation for this partnership is to tap into CX/KA's massive Mainland China network. If it was true as has been speculated that CX
: Like banks or food franchises in food courts which agglomerate together, it is the attraction of all the companies being in the same area which draws
: This is true, but with this particular partner (CX) there seems to be a slight problem there: while NZ is selling both CX and NZ operated flights at
: When i checked fare from Europe to AKL, the cheapest have been CX to HKG and then NZ to AKL, so they might sell a lot of tickets that way
: Air NZ has been declared the second safest airline in the world. http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...afety-accolade-for-Air-New-Zealand NZ1
: Qantas don't make the top 10... just saying
: You may find that they just are using lead in fares on the NZ site to maximise interest and familiarity with the arrangement. It would not surprise m
: Yes it would for South America-AKL-Asia vv. South America services would leave AKL around 2000 and return to AKL before 0600. So AKL-HKG would need t
: Hey Guys, anyone know the rego of the aircraft operating AKL - BNE tomorrow morning
: ZK-MVB climbing out of CHC for DUD as NZ5351
: and ZK-MVA not long out of WLG also for DUD as NZ5049. Two new ATR72-600 at DUD this morning
: Now this is an accolade we can take seriously. It actually looks like quite decent research - as opposed to yet another "Air NZ voted best carrier to
: Does anyone know how the 733 flight from CHC-ROT has been doing? Does it have a good load factor?
: It is a good achievement. I am wondering though if this study took into account the 2 Q300 nosewheel incidents, the B1900 belly landing, the ATR wind
96 Mr AirNZ
: Depending how the study viewed things, what you list may not actually be negatives. From a safety perspective, issues that were found with the ATR an
: It seems the 787 is having several problems this week ! and now the 'FAA' are coming up with saying that the Aircraft might not be able to do New Zeal
: This has to be the biggest heap of crap reported by any newspaper on the whole issue. Just concentrating on the EDTO. If FAA were to withdraw 330-min
: That's the reporter's interpretation / extrapolation, and doesn't reflect anything the regulator has said. The FAA has made no mention of the existin
: Would these problems affect the delivery date of the 789, I wonder.
: So far, there have been: - Aft electronics bay panel issue, traced to a batch of faulty circuit boards - Cracked windshields, probably due to a manufa
: Going off the overnight regional sheet here at work, ZK-MVB due into AKL twice today. NZ5058 1440 Arr NZ5075 1530 Dep NZ5076 1800 Arr NZ5077 1825 Dep
: Yea that makes sense, all dealt with in a way leading to good outcomes
: Any idea what the QF A333 was doing in AKL this morning? Flightaware said it came in from SIN..
: VH-EBJ is currently flying JQ241 AKL-OOL, flightaware said it did JQ204 SIN-AKL-SYD yesterday. Maybe JQNZ is down a few A320s?
: Nothing against NZ (they are my favourte airline, and I believe they are perfectly safe), but this study does seem pretty flawed. It just doesn't sou
: It operated a charter for the Singaporean Ministry of Defence! Bringing soldiers down for military exercises at Waiouru! Return flight is in early Fe
: CHC-ROT / ROT-CHC has been all ATR for a few years now. The last record I have is one 733 and two AT7's a day in Feb 2008. Overlooked the November 201
: It was operating 6pw for the last month or two. The aircraft routed CHC-ZQN-CHC-ROT-CHC-ZQN-CHC
: AKL-BHE-AKL has been up to twice daily Q300 since the aircraft was introduced. In previous years the PM Q300 flight has been given the chop during th
: With regard to the AT7 service between CHC-WLG-CHC, I think this makes a lot of sense, enabling an increase in frequency with a large reduction in cos
: I think in future we will see more ATR and Q300 flights between CHC and WLG, and less jet services. As you said it's probably not worth in outside of
: I wonder when the 733s retire, would we see a combination of 320 and AT7 on AKL-WLG as well.
: I'm picking it will be more AT7 and DH3 than A320's at that stage (All 3 will be used). The jump in the number of turboprops on that route over the p
: Not on AKL-WLG. They don't have many other routes to send the A320 on and they don't need to be putting AT7s on that route. Maybe AKL-PPQ or somethin
: Mt Cook for a while operated CHC to the Chathams with an ATR
: Also where would the capacity for AT7's to do AKL-WLG come from as NZ is using them to replace Q300's on major routes
: I think if they start CHC-PPQ you might see it AKL-PPQ-CHC. Sounds like the new CEO wants to smash Jetstar domestically. I hope he succeeds.
: Nothing wrong with that at all. I feel that AKL-WLG should be left alone and remain operated by jets - there could be a publicity point in there for
: With more ATRs coming online there should be plenty of room in the Dash schedule to operate this.
: Highly unlikely, ive never been on a AKL-WLG service even off peak that has been less than 80% fill. It seems that is route has decent loadings any t
: I hope the recent grounding of 787s would prompt NZ to reconsider their strategy of putting all the eggs in one basket.
123 Mr AirNZ
: I'm not really sure what you would expect them to do? Whilst I think they could have been more proactive about managing the delays of the 787 (e.g. e
: The FAA are just showing due diligence, nothing more or less. I fail to see why NZ should now change their plans because of this. My understanding is
: ... And order 4 789s and 4 A359s? That wouldn't be too wise either. You just increase your costs drastically over the long run for so called 'diversi
: it seems 2013 is becoming a nightmare for the new CEO and we have just come into it, how many time have there been problems with the 787 program and l
: What possible basis can you have to make this assertion? So there is a problem with the backup battery system that is intended to start the APU in fl
: For those in Wellington, the Wings over Wairarapa aircraft have started their engines and should be over the harbour around 1230. Texan
: Speaking of that, anyone going to the airshow? Or the one at North shore in a few weeks?
: I'll be there, most likely on Sunday. Sounds like we'll have a DC-3 offering flights between MRO-WLG for $70 ow. If anyone else is out that way and w
: That would be pretty cool. Pity am working
: Does anyone know which 737 operated the first flight of the day to Dunedin yesterday (17/02/2012)? Thanks in advance. Well, each time the 787 gets del
: It seems a bit late for them now, but they would have had developed the 777 fleet, e.g. ordering a few more 77W and consider 77L, refurbish the 77E e
134 Mr AirNZ
: I do agree with you partly. Remember that the 763s that left were operating leases. We are going back to 2005 here when those frames started to go an
: A Mo-Fr AKL-PPQ-CHC 0830/1110 / CHC-PPQ-AKL 1125/1400 could be fitted into the Apr onwards schedule by making the AKL-TRG-AKL 1215/1350 leave 45 mins
: I thought this was significant... http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...s-alliance-to-stay-Australian-only A bit confused by the article, however. At
: Haven't seen ZK-MVB flying for several days now. Can anyone in the know indicate why? Also, we must shortly see sightings of ZK-MVC @ TLS
: MVB is currently in the hangar having a minor defect rectified. NZ1
: Thanks NZ1. Will be nice to see her back on the network. Now I have a working ADB-S receiver (I'm NZNV1) I have a new found interest in these new bir
: Does anyone have information on the start and stop dates for the Air Niugini B707 operations into AKL as part of the AKL-POM-HKG joint venture with NZ
: I can narrow it down to late Oct / early Nov 1983 to 30 Jan 1985. The CX/NZ/PX tripartite agreement lasted from 1981 to 1985. It was intended that ea
: Hi deconz, I am pretty keen on getting one of these. Would it be possible to give me some info in terms of cost, what kind of receiver you have, setu
: Take a look here: http://www.flightradar24.com/software. Be aware that your location will depict what you'll be able to see.. ie if you live in Ranui
: Hey WSTAKL ... US$ 20 can get you a piece of the action. Read ... http://www.hamradioscience.com/rtl1090-ads-b-decoder-for-windows/ I've purchased an
: I can see that NZ has updated their long haul online booking to bring it in-line with short haul. No S2S, and for AKL-HKG they have got rid of those C
: Just discovered that "works deluxe" trans-Tasman on the 77W gets you the Y+ spaceseats. Even I would have to concede, this is a pretty good deal. It d
: I'm confused now.. Their other options AKL-HKG include via NRT on NZ/NH and via SYD on NZ/VS.. Time to get some firewood stocked up!
: NZ originally first ordered the B7X7 (as it was originally called) as well as the B772ERs in 2004. The order was for 2x B788s.
: All going well (actually, very well), Air New Zealand will receive the first 787-9 in the middle of 2014, ten years after it was first ordered. This h
150 Mr AirNZ
: Hat off to you, you are right (was actually called the 7E7 back then). My point still stands though, when the 767's were coming off lease, the 787 wa
: Watched a DC3 take off here in PMR at about 1150 (30th Jan)... Anyone have an idea what that would have been about? Was an interesting sight..
: An interesting read here about a proposed 90 seater turbo-prop ATR is close to offering ATR Close To Offering 90 Seat Turbo Prop (by JoeCanuck Jan 24
: I see NZ8960 is operating as IVC/NSN/AKL this afternoon. I'm guessing this is a one off due to groups activity. However, it would be great to see IVC
: Probably had maintainence work done at Fieldair in PMR. They came in for work every now and then when I was based in PMR I would be a one off/charter
: When NZ took the 72-600 they said they wanted to be the launch customer for the 90 seater ATR. I'd WLG-AKL on the ATR would be highly unlikely
: Thanks for all the info. Will definitely be looking into it.
: With the B733s being replaced by A320s, there would be some flights (mainly one or two over winter per day) where an A320 isnt warrented and a B733 w
: I have to admit that I don't understand what AirNZ is doing with respect to alliances related to Hong Kong. I know the LHR - HKG route ends mid March
: Although the A320 are larger, they operating cost is around the same as the 733. Hence the extra 40ish seats are effectively, additional revenue that
: I fully understand your frustration. The multistop booking engine is totally hopeless. I was trying to book WLG-AKL-HKG return the other day (when th
: Even if the operating costs for the A320 are the same as the B733, the ATR is cheaper to operate and always will be. Thats why the ATRs and even some
: While some morning flights will have a lower passenger count on its first e.g NZ402 WLG-AKL (0630-0730). On its return sector NZ411 (0800-0830) will h
: Just read on the Australian Aviation Thread that TransAsia Airways are planning on launching Australian and New Zealand flights. TransAsia operate the
: Great yet another airline to make AKL just that extra bit over crowded.
: Maybe TransAsia could go to CHC instead and 'cover' the South Island market if its direct?