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Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production #11  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
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This is a continuation thread of part 10 which can be found here: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production #10

Have a Happy New Year!


Regards,

SA7700


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2083 posts, RR: 14
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Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (01 January- 2013)

Updates from previous listing (Dec 01 - 2012) :

- Firing Order , Added : L/N 1489-RC528, L/N1490-RC510, L/N 1499-RC066
- Firing Order , Changed : Nil
- Accepted and Delivered : L/N 1430-RC601, L/N 1467-RC580, L/N 1466-RC007, L/N 1468-RC008.
- Accepted, but not delivered : L/N1422-RC522
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N 1470-RC026, L/N 1471-RC581
- Serial numbers added : L/N 1468, MSN 42096
- New (scheduled )delivery dates, corrections and additional (BBJ)background info added.

52 Completed airframes , Accepted 40, Delivered 39 (marked : @ ), Delivered 2011 (9), 2012 (30)

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test registration N747EX, selcal code CK-EQ, During flight testing recorded 870+ hours in 354 flights, Ferried June-08-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Sept-29-2012. Returned to KPAE at October-02-2012 with test registration N5020K, ferried to KPDX at October 23 for painting, returned to KPAE at November 12 with Cargolux registration LX-VCA(LX-ECV –NTU), name : City of Vianden, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery flight date : January 2013.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , ferried May-29-2012 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, During flight testing accumulated 720+ hours in 254 flights, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Oct-15-2012. Ferried at October 23-2012 to Victorville (KVCV)for re-painting, return flight to KPAE 07 November. Acceptance date : December 16 or 18-2012 ?, Delivery flight date : TBD.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, name : City of Esch-sur-Alzette, test registration N5014K, Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSEA-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, name : City of Ettelbruck, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

@ L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, test registration N5510E, HL7610, selcal code MQ-FJ, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 18-2012, Acceptance / Delivery flight (KAL28D-PKSI/ICN) date : Sept 04-2012.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special Hong Kong Trader livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA Colours), KPAE –stall 110, refurbishment completed ?

@ L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight (ABW1011-VHHH) date : December 02-2012.

@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012. First operational flight NCA108 ( RJAA-KLAX) Aug-13-2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, low rate refurbishment, KPAE -stall 120.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, low rate refurbishment, KPAE –stall 202, Scheduled Delivery in July 2013 ?

@ L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011. Last test flight at 01-12-2012, after approx. 200 flights with short of 600 flight hours. Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE and re-painted in full “ State of Kuwait “ livery, registration 9K-GAA, First functional test flight October 21-2012, Acceptance /Delivery flight (KAC8043-CYVR-KMCI)date : November 03-2012.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1 (NTU), selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, D-ABYE( NTU), engines removed, KPAE Everett Modification Center, Will be used for additional flight testing (tail tank, GEnx-2B PIP, NGFMS updates). Scheduled LH delivery date was September-30-2012 , Aircraft is up for sale after finishing of the test flights in 2014.

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full livery, name : City of Luxembourg, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, low rate refurbishment KPAE-stall 119.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, low rate refurbishment, at KPAE - stall 118, Scheduled Delivery in April 2013 ?

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, Ferry flight to Hamburg at Aug- 29-2012, Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Service entry in 2014.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May-24-2012, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin was installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Ferry flight (A6PFA- KIAB-EDDH) December 22-2012. VIP Cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik, Hamburg.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, name : Brandenburg, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post Delivery Maintenance by LH Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Crown Prince Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Saudi Arabian Government ), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, Utah (Corporation). Stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Leased to a new customer or delivery to another member of the Saudi Royal Family ? Ferry flight (N458BJ- KSKF-LFSB) to Basel -Mulhouse at December 28-2012. (Cancelled Jet Aviation outfitting slot occupied by new customer ?)

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation completed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES), Wichita, Kansas. Ferry flight to Basel-Mulhouse(LFSB) at November 09-2012. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC at Basel, Switzerland, see : http://www.amacaerospace.com/news/news-2012-11-13.html

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, named : Sachsen, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012, PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

@ L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, named : Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date Aug-24-2012, Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) by LH Technik, First operational flight DLH754 (EDDF-VOBL) September 13-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, name : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, name: Spirit of Panalpina, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

@ L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, name : Sachsen-Anhalt, selcal code CM-BH, full livery, , F/F Sept-28-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date October-23-2012. Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM)by LH Technik (EDDF). First operational flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) November 09-2012.

@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.

@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery, name : Passion for Solutions, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, BBJ customer : According some rumours (not confirmed) : Bahrain Royal Flight, test registration N455BJ, future registration A9C-???, white livery, F/F October 18-2012, Owner : Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee Salt Lake City Utah , Acceptance/Delivery flight (N455BJ-CYVR-KAFW-KCNW) date : November 02-2012. Cabin outfitting by L3 Platform Integration at Waco,TX.

@ L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335 - CYVR) date Aug-30-2012.

@ L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, full livery, name : City of Grevenmacher, F/F Aug 30-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-ELLX )date Sept 12-2012.

@ L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571, Atlas Air #9, registration N852GT, full Atlas livery, FAL roll-out Aug 07-2012, F/F September 14-2012, Acceptance date Sept-30-2012 /Delivery flight (GTI9812-KCVG) date October- 02-2012

L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , test registration N5511Y, VQ-BRH, full livery, F/F Nov-14-2012, Ferried to Portland (KPDX) for painting at Dec. 02, return flight at December 13, expected acceptance/delivery flight date : TBD

@L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay #10, registration B-LJJ, full livery, Roll-out date Sept. 5, F/F October 16-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date October 26-2012.

@L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, full livery, name : City of Diekirch, registration LX-VCG, F/F October 16-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date : November 19-2012.

@ L/N 1466 - 747-8H0, RC007, serial number 39749, Royal Flight Oman, test registration N5511V, future registration A4O-HMS, selcal code FR-AD, white livery, FAL roll-out October 07-2012, F/F November-16-2012, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance date December 10-2012 . Delivery flight (A4OHMS- CYVR- KCNW) date : December 12-2012. Cabin outfitting by L3 Platform Integration at Waco, TX, see : http://www2.l-3com.com/is/releases/P...eives-second-747-8-final-photo.pdf

@ L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, selcal code DK-EL, Polar/DHL Express livery, KPAE flight line, F/F November 26 -2012, Acceptance/delivery flight (GTI9812-KCVG) date : December 04-2012

@ L/N 1468 - 747-8ZV, RC008,serial number 42096, Lessor : Worldwide Aircraft Holding Company – Bermuda, Customer : Former Emir of Qatar (Sheikh Khalifa bin Hamad bin Abdullah bin Jassim bin Muhammed Al Thani), registration VQ-BSK (VQ-B = Bermuda / SK = Sheikh Khalifa), full livery, Roll-out November 08-2012, F/F December 13 2012, Acceptance date December 20-2012, Delivery flight (VQBSK-CYVR) date December 21-2012. Airplane is (probably ) located at Dallas Love Field to be outfitted by Associated Air Center. At the same location an elevator and an Aeroloft modification kit will be installed, expected total modification time 36 months.

L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, unpainted with NCA livery rudders, Roll-out November 26-2012, KPAE flight line. Is scheduled in February 2013 to be send to Marana AZ (storage ?).

L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013

L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11, serial number 37566, N854GT, unpainted with dark blue rudders, KPAE Flight line.
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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22

L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013, slant position #1.
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, serial number 35821, Cargolux #8, registration LX-VCH, slant position #2.
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, serial number 37654, KAL#3, HL7617, body join position.
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013, wing join position.

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Firing order : 16 Airframes , scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).

L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, serial number 37567, Atlas Air #12, N855GT
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, serial number 35822, Cargolux #9, registration LX-VCI
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8B5F, RC548, serial number 37655***, KAL #4
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, serial number 37670, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-867F, RC561 (former RC631), serial number 43394?, Cathay Pacific #11, (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1484 - 747-867F, RC562 (former RC632), Cathay Pacific #12 (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1485 - 747-8KZF, RC526, NCA #6, registration JA16KZ
L/N 1486 - 747-867F, RC563 (former RC633), Cathay Pacific #13 (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1487 - 747-8KZF, RC527, NCA #7, registration JA17KZ, nominal roll-out date August 22-2013.
L/N 1488 - 747-8B5F, RC549, serial number 37656***, KAL #5
L/N 1489 - 747-8KZF, RC528, NCA #8
L/N 1490 - 747-8R7F, RC510, Cargolux #10
L/N 1491 until/incl. L/N 1498 not yet allocated
L/N 1499 - 747-89L, RC066, Air China, Boeing internal code “BEJ”

? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= Boeing Customer code not known.
***= extrapolation.

I will try to publish the following updates on the first of each month to stay synchronized with the monthly Boeing delivery publications.

Please feel free to add updates, corrections and remarks by replies in this thread (or by PM).

Cheers, Peter.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 40761 times:

Quote:
Accepted, but not delivered : L/N1422-RC522

Accepted 40, Delivered 39 (marked : @ ), Delivered 2011 (9), 2012 (30)

Boeing said that they delivered 31 747 aircraft in 2012. Can we assume that RC522 has been delivered?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 40398 times:

Here is a better shot of RC026:

http://paineairport.com/kpae5792.htm



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 40369 times:

I am moving to Tokyo in March, and will be following the KZ deliveries closely. I would like more information for the following:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 1):
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ

This one is in the firing order; when should I expect this to be delivered?

Quoting 747classic (Reply 1):
L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522,
Quoting 747classic (Reply 1):
Acceptance date : December 16 or 18-2012 ?, Delivery flight date : TBD.

So this one was accepted but not delivered? Anything going on with this?

Quoting 747classic (Reply 1):
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, unpainted with NCA livery rudders, Roll-out November 26-2012, KPAE flight line. Is scheduled in February 2013 to be send to Marana AZ (storage ?).

Same with this....it's being sent to MZJ but when should this one be delivered?

Thanks



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 40352 times:

See Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production #10 (reply 70) for some information on the KZ deliveries.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 40057 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 2):
Boeing said that they delivered 31 747 aircraft in 2012. Can we assume that RC522 has been delivered?


I answered my own question: the Boeing delivery list now shows 2 deliveries in 2012 for Nippon Cargo Airlines.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...ReportType=CurYrDelv&pageid=m15520

[Edited 2013-01-03 08:38:45]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 39759 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 2):

Boeing said that they delivered 31 747 aircraft in 2012. Can we assume that RC522 has been delivered?

Handed over, but the airplane has not flown away yet. As of this moment, she sits on the south end of the KPAE flight line, between LN 1420 (for CLX) and LN 1463 (for AirBridge Cargo). Those two airplanes should deliver in a month or so, but a fly-away date for RC522 is TBA.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
Same with this....it's being sent to MZJ but when should this one be delivered?

She should get her ticket in late February, and then fly-away shortly thereafter.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 39433 times:

Another nice picture of RC571, it looks like she's almost ready to fly:

http://paineairport.com/kpae5805.htm



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10631 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 39425 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 8):
Another nice picture of RC571, it looks like she's almost ready to fly:

If they have refurbished the plane, then there should be a high chance that someone is taking her.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 38932 times:

RC524 is in the air.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130108/1700Z/KPAE/KMWH



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 38652 times:

And an awesome picture of RC524's first flight:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvo...t/8362742965/in/contacts/lightbox/

[Edited 2013-01-09 01:19:18]


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10631 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 38628 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 11):

Wow, thats awesome. Even in rags the Queen is graceful as no other plane!


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 38324 times:

RC522 delivery flight popped up on flightaware:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...6/history/20130110/1505Z/KPAE/RJAA



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 37635 times:

There is some flight activity again.

RC604:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130116/2130Z/KMWH/KPAE

RC501:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130116/1845Z/KMWH/KPAE



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 37143 times:

RC581 / N854GT in full Atlas Air livery:

http://paineairport.com/kpae5874.htm



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7175 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 37048 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 15):

Sweet! When shall he be delivered?



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User currently offlineSV777 From Saudi Arabia, joined Apr 2010, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 36870 times:

Saudi Arabian (Cargo) will be receiving two airplanes in Mar 2013 with following details:
Model ID Code Block# S/N L/N Reg #
747-87UF SVA RC571 37562 1429 HZ-AI3
747-87UF SVA RC572 37563 1432 HZ-AI4


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30532 posts, RR: 84
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 36857 times:
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Quoting SV777 (Reply 17):
Saudi Arabian (Cargo) will be receiving two airplanes in Mar 2013 with following details:


Boeing does have two 747-8F UFOs from 27-Nov-2012, so I am guessing that is an unannounced SV order for two of the NTU's from Atlas Air?

[Edited 2013-01-22 16:39:41]

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Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 36851 times:

Quoting SV777 (Reply 17):

Saudi Arabian (Cargo) will be receiving two airplanes in Mar 2013 with following details:
Model ID Code Block# S/N L/N Reg #
747-87UF SVA RC571 37562 1429 HZ-AI3
747-87UF SVA RC572 37563 1432 HZ-AI4

Thank you. This is indeed some positively surprising information. So two of the rejected Atlas frames have found a home as was suspected.


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6815 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 36578 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 1):
Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (01 January- 2013)

It was my understanding that Atlas Air refused the first four planes, but in this list I can account for only three of them. Am I mistaken, or if not, what happened to the fourth? At this point it looks like only RC573 is looking for employment. And was there that much difference between RC573 and RC574? They did take RC574.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10663 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 36556 times:

No, they refused only three planes.

Quote:
what happened to the fourth

RC574 is the fourth and is flying for BA World Cargo.



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Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 36539 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):

RC574 is the fourth and is flying for BA World Cargo.

But did Boeing institute a change between RC573 and RC574 that made it worthwhile to take RC574 but not the previous three? There is only a difference of 4 in the line numbers; at which points did Boeing institute changes, and how significant were they?



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 36293 times:

The next one for LH ln1470, to become D-ABYG, had its first flight yesterday.

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Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 35929 times:

RC524 will fly to KOA in about one hour.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130125/1445Z/KPAE/PHKO



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25 PHX787 : Why there? Kind of an odd test flight
26 tdscanuck : Boeing uses Kona fairly often. It's got a big runway, extremely low traffic, ground facilities capable of handling a 747, and a good working relation
27 Post contains links KarelXWB : It's a 6 hour flight, way longer than the usual test flight. I have no idea what Boeing is doing there. In other news, RC572 is getting its engines at
28 N14AZ : First of all, thank you for your hard work and keeping us updated. Question: but this is not the remaining backlog, correct? Only the airframes ident
29 KarelXWB : That's correct. For example, only 1 of the 5 Air China frames has been identified so far (LN 1499).[Edited 2013-01-26 05:48:33]
30 7BOEING7 : Probably using it for some warm weather/ice free certification issues. Engine improvements??
31 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC571 B1 flight is scheduled for today. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/295784103167537152
32 Post contains links someone83 : Is it D-ABYH we see unpainted all the way to the left here? http://paineairport.com/images/fl012913.jpg
33 KarelXWB : Correct, D-ABYH left the factory about a week ago.
34 Post contains links KarelXWB : After some delays RC571 made it finally into the air. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130131/1600Z/KPAE/KMWH RC571 was first seen
35 Post contains links KarelXWB : January is now behind us and it was a quiet month with no deliveries. Here is an overview of the flight activity last month. - RC501: made about 10 te
36 Post contains links 747classic : Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (01 February- 2013) Updates from previous listing (Jan 01 - 2013) : - Firing Order , Added : L/N 1491-RC511
37 KarelXWB : This must be the first production frame with the new upgrades.
38 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Wx permitting looks like Atlas RC581 (1471) is planning for a B-1 today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE581
39 Post contains links KarelXWB : Volga Dnepr lost $38 million last year and is in talk with Boeing to delay the delivery of RC604 and RC605. They are also not that happy with the 748F
40 Post contains links 747classic : The 747-8 program passed the 100.000 flight hours mark at Jan 27-2013. The 747-8 fleet is currently made up of 32 airplanes (28 Freighters and 4 Inter
41 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC604 is on its way to MZJ: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130204/1800Z/KPAE/KMZJ Looks like the above article was right, she's go
42 milestones787 : So I have a real novice question so please don't jump all over me if it is obvious to you pros: What is the point of storing a brand new plane that is
43 na : Sounds odd indeed but it probably has to do with payment on delivery and overcapacity. They want to save the money for some time.
44 Post contains links Cargolex : For a little more background information about AirBridge's 747-8F strategy and the things that are going on there at the moment as they relate to the
45 Post contains links 747classic : Boeing flew the freighter that has been waiting at Everett (37669) to storage at Marana in the Arizona desert -- it appears that Volga-Dnepr has succ
46 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC571 flight to Portland (for painting) popped up on Flightaware. Can't wait to see the Saudi Arabian livery on this one. http://flightaware.com/live/
47 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like Atlas RC581 (1471) finally got off on its B-1 today but didn't make it to KMWH as originally planned. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BO
48 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC581 already flew on February 2, pictures at http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2013/02/paine-fiedl-february-2.html
49 7BOEING7 : That's what I had thought and I had seen other pictures but they either are on another topic or were removed. Plus FlightAware had no flight plan lis
50 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : What is an EWA flight and why is it going to take 8 hours? Sounds like Boeing is doing some extensive testing? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B..
51 747classic : EWA flight = engineering work authorisation flight. Flight test beyond the production check out, sometimes for a new feature or an extra airline requ
52 KarelXWB : Thanks for the explanation. RC524 is now in paint (http://paineairport.com/kpae5951.htm). A little bit odd to paint the frame if it is going into stor
53 kanban : actually it's preferred .. temp coating are water soluble, and a nice new coat of paint seals up all the little crevices and gaps. OK some might say
54 na : Painting can mean either plain white, basic livery without titles and logo, or full livery. If I´d be the client and would plan to take the plane in
55 Post contains links and images PHX787 : Looks like lots of activity at PAE today. What kind of profile is this?
56 Post contains images KarelXWB : It's the same flight pattern as yesterday. [Edited 2013-02-07 12:36:37]
57 7BOEING7 : Although the specific items mentioned would be what you'd expect to see on an airplane doing one or two EWA flights, in this case with the multiple f
58 Stitch : The 747-8F does not have a tail tank, so this plane would not be working on that. The frame LH cancelled will be used (in part) to test that functiona
59 Post contains links KarelXWB : There was indeed something wrong, RC581 first flight lasted only 15 minutes. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/297928450214346752
60 7BOEING7 : I know freighters don't have the tail tank but if the flight control software is being modified to incorporate that change and they want to use the s
61 747classic : Update : A new delivery date for RC026 / D-ABYG has been scheduled : March 8. The aircraft is presently back in the factory for "hard landing rework."
62 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : RC572 has its engines attached. (photo uploaded by moonm http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8455350484/)[Edited 2013-02-08 00:44:00]
63 7BOEING7 : That's something that doesn't happen every day--probably not in the last 25-30 years either.
64 na : Did they damage the plane in a hard landing or what?
65 Post contains links 747classic : [quote=na,reply=64]Did they damage the plane in a hard landing or what?[/quote I am not aware of the cause, only that the aircraft returned from the f
66 Post contains links and images 747classic : The next 747-8F emerged from the Final Assembly Line. Screenshot from Matt Cawby's Fligh Line picture of Feb. 8 2013, see : http://paineairport.com/im
67 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC524 is back in the air on another 8-hour test flight (3rd time). http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130209/1730Z/KPAE/KPAE That's a
68 Post contains links 747classic : A 747-8F aft upper deck panel, manufactured by Triumph Aerostructures (former Vought aircraft Industries) in Texas, arrived at Paine Field by Volga-Dn
69 7BOEING7 : or?
70 na : No, as 747Classic reports a freighter-panel, D-ABYG is a pax-plane.
71 Post contains links and images 747classic : Original uploaded by Moonm, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8465987855/in/photostream The upper deck fuselage panel can be i
72 KarelXWB : What do you mean with slowing down? Is there a problem with the trains?
73 747classic : - Each panel has to be on the right place at the right time to avoid slowing down the final assembly line. - The production (Hawthorn or Grand Prairi
74 Post contains links KarelXWB : Very clear, thank you. In other news, Boeing warns about unclaimed 747-8 production slots.
75 Laddie : And now we know why Boeing didn't deliver any 747s in January. Two are on the schedule for February, but they are late in the month, and could easily
76 7BOEING7 : They didn't deliver any in January because all the airplanes that flew in December, delivered in December. Both B-1's scheduled for January flew and
77 anfromme : It's true that a lack of deliveries in January isn't due to open production slots leading to lower output or whitetails stacking up on Boeing's tarma
78 Stitch : Another possible explanation is that Boeing's suppliers are weighted towards building 747-8F shipsets and that is where the need is for orders to all
79 anfromme : If this was a filing from a Boeing supplier I would probably agree, but this is from Boeing themselves. For Boeing it should not matter whether they
80 Stitch : Since Boeing has not yet decided on a production rate reductions, the subs would still be building to whatever rate they currently are at until told
81 Post contains links KarelXWB : Cargolux is in talks with Boeing to delay its 747-8Fs, now we know why the delivery of RC501 has slipped. Full article: http://atwonline.com/aircraft-
82 sweair : Boeing has a bad start to 2013 for sure. I bet many here cheer though. The global economy is heading into the toilet. I expect the NEO/MAX backlogs to
83 Post contains images Stitch : At this date in 2012, they had 150 firm orders, so the 145 they have at the moment in 2013 is not too bad. That being said, they would need a 230 fra
84 KarelXWB : RC501 is now in the air. According Matt Camby this one is a customer (C1) flight.
85 Post contains images PW100 : Still, 145 in less than two months is very good, in any book. PW100
86 AlitaliaDC10 : Any indication of when Korean Airlines is set to accept delivery of their first 747-8i ?
87 na : I dont know, but should be sometime next year, line-no. around 1500.
88 747classic : Two more 2014 production slots have been allocated : L/N 1493 - 747-8xxF, RC641, GECAS ? L/N 1494 - 747-830, RC032, serial number 37837, D-ABYM, Luft
89 Laddie : Not RC501. RC524 is going into storage immediately after delivery. RC581 is the only 747-8 delivery I am aware of in February. Deliveries scheduled f
90 KarelXWB : So when will Cargolux take delivery of RC501? April?
91 carpethead : Shouldn't it be NCA not ANA. Maybe ANA is looking at the 748i. NCA ordered the 748F when the cargo business was good. Now, its so-so. The Japanese ec
92 Post contains images PHX787 : When are the next KZ deliveries? I arrive in Tokyo on March 21 and I'm hoping to catch some 748F action I sure hope so but I highly doubt it.
93 Post contains links pdxswa : Here is RC 572 arriving at PDX hard to believe it sat around for almost 2 years before it finally got into the air ! http://www.airliners.net/photo/Bo
94 747classic : Typo, AFAIK RC571 is presently at PDX ?
95 carpethead : Only two delivered: JA12KZ & JA13KZ. If JA14KZ is being stored, JA15KZ is next and roll-out should be June/July but only those at NCA know if it
96 777way : Has sultan of Brunei ordered a 748?
97 pdxswa : 747 classic I stand corrected it should be RC571 we all make mistakes !!!
98 hannahpa : I remember that the 748 will get engine PIPs on the GenX-2B. What exactly entails the PIP? Better fuel economy? Lower fuel burn? More power? I also se
99 SCAT15F : That's exactly what I would like to know, given the fact that the 748's performance shortfall was completely due to the engines. (Even with the highe
100 KarelXWB : Because the update is not ready yet, RR have to build and test it first. I believe the certification is on track for this summer.
101 Laddie : Yes, RC571 is presently at PDX. RC572 is parked on the KPAE ramp, three slots north of the new Delivery Center.
102 Stitch : I'd hazard part of the reason is that the architecture of the Trent 1000 and GEnx is different due to the lack of bleed-air systems and the additiona
103 Post contains links Revelation : http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...g-hard-meet-genx-fuel-burn-targets says: The rest of the article goes through these things in more detail. Kind
104 SCAT15F : That makes sense. It will be interesting to see how the Trent XWB fuel burn figures turn out.
105 Capt747ret : With B having open freighter slots in 2014 I would venture a strong guess that Fed Ex will pick them up. They are always looking for a good deal and t
106 Revelation : Always, except they didn't take any 757s from Boeing when they were trying to keep the line going a bit longer, and now are taking on the world's cas
107 RobK : What's the deal with RC571? Usually when one goes down they bring one back, so the 747 should've come back when the Thai B77W went there the other day
108 Laddie : I think RC571 was at KPDX a little longer than originally planned from some rudder refurb. She should return to KPAE this week.
109 747classic : Normally new(747) aircraft are delivered to the paint shop with the rudders already painted and balanced. In this case : Are the rudders removed, str
110 Post contains links KarelXWB : Boeing moved RC501 to the tower apron. It looks like she's not going anywhere soon. http://paineairport.com/kpae6017.htm
111 Post contains links 747classic : The next 747-8, a freighter for Korean emerged at the flight line. See Matt Cawby's KPAE blog : http://paineairport.com/kpae6020.htm Aircraft data : L
112 Post contains links KarelXWB : A flight plan for RC571 popped up on Flightaware: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130221/2230Z/KPDX/KPAE
113 Laddie : That must be what happened.
114 Post contains links and images 747classic : The first picture of RC571 / HZ-AI3 in full Saudia Cargo Livery, Portland (KPDX), Feb. 21. Original uploaded by Russel Hill (Sabian404), see for other
115 Post contains links RobK : Better angle here, courtesy 'planephotoman' : http://www.flickr.com/photos/planephotoman/8496100035/in/photostream
116 na : What a beautiful plane. The Saudi livery suits the 748 very well. Note that its a modified livery, with Saudia titles and a less attractive tail logo
117 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Matt tweeted: I'm not sure what this means but Boeing might need the flightline space for the 787's coming of the assembly line. RC508 is now in paint
118 Post contains images RobK : There's been a whole bunch of N-numbers recently assigned for B748Fs, both for current ones on the ramp and also new ones coming down the line. I thin
119 sweair : Are we in the same situation that the 757 was in 2002? A temporary slowdown that might kill another program? It took many years for airlines to figure
120 na : As the 748F is without competition that wont happen, be sure. Currently the majority of classic 747 freighter planes are being retired. When the mark
121 Post contains links 747classic : Again two more 747-8 fuselage panels were flown in from Fort Worth, Texas by an An-124 Cargo plane, see Matt Cawby's KPAE blog : http://paineairport.c
122 na : On the paineairport-site its mentioned the original panel was dropped and damaged.
123 Stitch : Probably explains why Boeing is looking for more 747-8F orders for this year - they can't deliver much of their current production and they don't wan
124 747classic : Thanks, I wasn't aware that the original panel was dropped and damaged, this info must have been added later at the KPAE blog page of Feb 11. The sec
125 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another nice angle of RC571: http://paineairport.com/kpae6053.htm
126 SCAT15F : That is a sweet shot! Catches the best angle of the short-hump.
127 Post contains links 747classic : Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (March 01 - 2013) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
128 XT6Wagon : There are many parts ordered years in advance. Also as Stitch said there are differences in parts between the two models, and as such its not a simpl
129 Post contains images Wilco737 : Any infos on how bad the damage is or what kind of damage happened to the airplane? Any news? Thanks. wilco737
130 747classic : Actually there are (at the moment) three basic versions for the 747-8 series built according three basic number blocks. - 747-8I airline version - 74
131 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC026 flew again on February 23: http://paineairport.com/kpae6040.htm
132 Post contains images Wilco737 : Thanks, but something weird here as 747classic posted on March 1st that it is undergoing hard landing work and the picture is dated from February 23r
133 KarelXWB : She was damaged in the beginning of February, see 747classic's post on February 7: And she flew again on February 23, so I would say RC026 has been fi
134 Post contains images Wilco737 : Alright, now I got it. Thanks for clarification. I cannot see any information within LH of the delivery date. So I guess it will happen on short noti
135 Post contains links CCA : CX has finally firmed up the extra 3 -8Fs, dropped the 8 x 777Fs (which are going to Air China Cargo) but also picked up new options for 5 x 777Fs plu
136 SEPilot : This sounds like they realize that as the 777-9X approaches the case for the 748i disappears. It was already getting hard to justify the 748i against
137 KarelXWB : LN 1482, 1483 and 1484 (see the firing order above).[Edited 2013-03-01 06:50:48]
138 SEPilot : This is listed as Air Bridge Cargo. Do you mean LN 1486?
139 KarelXWB : Oops, copy paste fail. These are the 3 extra CX frames on order. Together with the 2 under refurbishment (LN 1433 & LN 1438) CX will take 5 frames
140 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : RC524 is now on its way to MZJ http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130301/1600Z/KPAE/KMZJ
141 Laddie : Did Boeing transfer ownership of RC524 to NCA so this can be counted as a delivery? It's not showing up as a delivery on the info that I can see. May
142 Post contains links 747classic : RC524 / N772BA is still owned by Boeing, see : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=772BA ----------------------------
143 Post contains links Revelation : And http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...rder-747-8s-737s-and-777fs-382947/ says So is Boeing going to be taking on 11 BCFs? Can anyone say how man
144 KarelXWB : About 50 -400 BCF if I remember correctly.
145 Stitch : Looks like 50 based on Boeing press releases. Evergreen International Airlines placed the order for the 50th model in December 2011 and received it i
146 Revelation : Thanks for the info. Not good if the manufacturer has taken back 20% of the production run, sigh.
147 Post contains links na : Certainly not, but at least these are old planes mostly, not binding too much capital and with a chance to find a new operator, even if it will take
148 747classic : Some more 747-8 news : Just after the release of the March 01 747-8 listing the following info about the March delivery schedule became available. Sev
149 na : 7 deliveries in a month must be a best for the 747 this millennium so far. As 4 are scheduled for the end of march I doubt though all will be in servi
150 XT6Wagon : depends on the terms. Boeing might make some solid money on them. Don't forget Boeing also sells and leases used planes... so its hardly something ne
151 PHX787 : I hope earlier, i'm in CVG till the 20th and I'd love to catch her delivery! PLEASE keep me posted on this one guys!
152 na : FYI they´ve just leased a 744BCF to Evergreen, like the Air China planes a new plane sale/old plane return deal from a 748 customer (Korean Air). An
153 Post contains links 747classic : Here is an excellent summary of the whole combined Air China-Cathay Pacific deal with Boeing, incl the effects for both cargo fleets : http://cargofac
154 CX Flyboy : Could this be ex-CX BCF B-KAE which arrived at Haeco recently all-white after painting in XMN?
155 na : No, that one already is with Boeing and went for storage, Evergreen is taking an ex-Korean Air-plane that Boeing also had bought back as I wrote: N77
156 starrion : Could we some a few of these frames return as Dreamlifters? Boeing is looking to ramp up production on the 787 after all. (once the current unpleasant
157 rwessel : They've already got four. Each 787 takes about ten cycles and perhaps 40 hours of LCF flight time. Even if they reach their planned 120 units/year, t
158 bikerthai : Could the 777 fuselage fit in a dream lifter? Maybe they would consider that business model when they work out the 777-X? bt
159 Post contains links PHX787 : Well the 747LCF is 27 ft 6 in (8.38 m) wide, the 777 is 20 ft 4 in (6.20 m) wide, but length wise they would never be able to fit a 77W fuselage in t
160 CXB77L : I believe that might be the outside measurement. The 747LCF's cabin width is the measurement that matters, but it should be wider than the 777 is wid
161 Post contains images Stitch : It's irrelevant since 777 fuselages are delivered in panel form to the 777 FAL and then built-up into complete assemblies.
162 Stitch : Wichita would likely be the most likely place for an additional FAL is Boeing needs more than 42 frames a month (which is what Renton's capacity is s
163 bikerthai : Yes, but they could always change the plan if the business case works out. Wouldn't be too much for MHI to build a similar tool to assemble the panel
164 PHX787 : How are those panels delivered to PAE?
165 Cargolex : Rail, except in rare cases. And rail transit is much less expensive than flying things around. Steering back to the topic but also to your question,
166 CX Flyboy : No, it is in HKG being worked on at Haeco. I saw it yesterday.
167 7BOEING7 : In the beginning they shipped to Everett then rail about 2 or 3 miles to the Boeing cutoff--then up the hill. Before the LCF Boeing convinced them to
168 Post contains links 747classic : To be back on topic : The first real " B5 " 747-8 freighter emerged from the Paint hangar. The first two deliveries to KAL Cargo were former Guggenhei
169 Post contains links KarelXWB : Delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...9/history/20130308/1900Z/KPAE/KSEA
170 Laddie : The first 747-8F built, and she served Boeing well as a flight test airplane. Today she flies to KSEA to begin what I trust will be decades of excell
171 na : The very first 748F finally making money!
172 KarelXWB : And she is in the air. RC501 will stay at SEA for only 20 minutes and then continue to LAX.
173 Post contains links KarelXWB : Two test flights for the day: - RC571: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130309/2100Z/KPAE/KPAE - RC027: http://flightaware.com/live/
174 Post contains links 747classic : RC027 / D-ABYH just airborne from Paine Field towards Moses Lake for a first (B1) flight, see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130
175 Post contains links Laddie : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH9875 I'm guessing this is the delivery flight for RC027 (D-ABYH)
176 Post contains links JValjean : There an excellent new video available which highlights the Everett production facilities and shows recent 747-8 aircraft on the ramp. See: http://air
177 mattcawby : We did that on February 26, unfortunately the video editor has "Boeing's current production at Renton" over the part where we were flying over the Bo
178 Post contains images wilco737 : No, it seems to be D-ABYG. D-ABYH had its first B1 flight earlier. See: D-ABYH is scheduled to be delivered end of month. wilco737
179 JValjean : I did not realize you were involved in this production, but it's not surprising since you are the "Dean" of the photographers covering Paine Field. I
180 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : And he is known to Boeing security as the “guy in the red truck.” http://edmondsbeacon.villagesoup.com...tt-cawby-s-paine-field-blog/972163
181 Post contains links Laddie : You're absolutely right. D-ABYG is now on its way to Frankfurt. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH9875 RC027 is scheduled for delivery on or abou
182 Post contains images wilco737 : Exactly. I hope they can hold that date so that the flights to HKG can start without any further delay. But with -YG it is already doable as BLR will
183 Post contains images wilco737 : The airplane D-ABYG has arrived in FRA and will start flying soon. Now the last upgrades will be done by LH Technik in FRA until it makes it first rev
184 na : I noticed the new 748I has a large antenna housing on its back, unlike the first 4 planes.
185 Post contains images wilco737 : Maybe it is the first airplane with the flynet system installed from the beginning. None of hte 748's have flynet yet. wilco737
186 KarelXWB : Well spotted, that's the WiFi antenna.
187 Post contains links KarelXWB : A member of this forum called CCA posted the delivery schedule for CX. B-LJD (RC554) - April B-LJC (RC553) - July B-LJK (RC561) - November B-LJL (RC56
188 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Additionally, RC554 has been spotted at the fuel dock on March 11. First flight should follow soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8553035201/siz
189 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another skin panel was unloaded from the Antonov freighter. See http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2013/03/paine-field-march-14.html for pictures. Correct me if
190 bmibaby737 : Do we know for certain which Construction Numbers these aircraft are, yet?
191 CCA :
192 KarelXWB : That are not the construction numbers. There are line numbers (LN) and construction numbers (CN or c/n).
193 bmibaby737 : Thanks CCA, but I am indeed after the construction numbers. A block of numbers assigned when an order is placed, and distributed to each individual a
194 na : I think they have not been published yet, otherwise our reliable and well-informed "747classic" would have told us. The l/n is more interesting anywa
195 747classic : In the official Boeing technical documentation these "construction numbers" are mentioned as a Manufacturer Serial Number (MSN), in the listing we sti
196 kanban : from the years I worked for Boeing, the C/N was never a definitive reference for an a/p internally it;s not on production drawings or manufacturing pl
197 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC547 first flight today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130315/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH
198 747classic : A new production slot has been allocated : L/N 1495 - 747-8xx/BBJ, RC009 with Boeing operator identification code ABD (Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight ?) The B
199 Post contains links KarelXWB : More activity on the flightline. RC572 - the second frame for Saudi Arabian Cargo - has left it's stall so I assume the refurbishment is now complete.
200 factsonly : Boeing 747-8 Serves 100th Airport EVERETT, Wash., March 18, 2013 -- The Boeing [NYSE: BA] 747-8 has served its 100th airport just 16 months after ente
201 Post contains links 747classic : Azerbaijan's Silk Way Airlines has signed a memorandum of understanding (not a firm order yet !) with the Boeing company to purchase four new Boeing 7
202 na : What a nice surprise. An official order cant take too much time if they want the first one next year. I wonder how long it will take until Singapore
203 sweair : There are some not taken on flight line currently? Would be a fast way to get a new aircraft? And as I understand ALL 748s will get the PIP installed,
204 Post contains links 747classic : Two more 747-8F aircraft, presently at the Final Assembly Line, are added to the FAA registry with a NxxxBA registration, probably for temporally stor
205 Post contains links 747classic : The next Atlas Air 747-8 freighter emerged from the Final Assembly Line, look for the unpainted 747 with dark blue rudders at Matt Cawby's KPAE blog p
206 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : RC553 has now its first engine installed. Picture by Matt Camby http://paineairport.com/images/fl032313.jpg
207 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC571 has been delivered. Here is the delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...8/history/20130325/1800Z/KPAE/OEJN
208 Post contains links 747classic : The next freighter for Cargolux just airborne from Paine Field towards Moses Lake for a first (B1) flight, see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.
209 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Finally some activity on RC581 again (she was spotted at the storage area on March 22). [Edited 2013-03-25 15:06:59]
210 Laddie : For those of you keeping score (I'm looking at you, 747classic), the airplane was officially handed over to its new owner on 23 March.
211 Laddie : RC581 should be delivered by the end of March, but the delivery flight will not happen until April.
212 na : No wonder, its Easter!
213 Post contains images PHX787 : Hmm so when do you guys think she'll be delivered? I'd love to catch her delivery flight at NRT Sorry guys, more focused on the 787 in the shot
214 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC027 has been delivered: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...5/history/20130327/2200Z/KPAE/EDDF
215 Post contains links and images 747classic : Picture of the delivery flight of D-ABYH towards Frankfurt. Original uploaded by Matt Cawby, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/micro
216 Post contains images wilco737 : Yes, she has arrived safely in FRA. Welcome home Somewhere mid April. The LH maintenance needs about 2 weeks until she is ready. Destinations could b
217 na : Is D-ABYG in service already? Has it been named?
218 KarelXWB : D-ABYG is not yet in service. First revenue flight will be FRA-HKG on March 31.[Edited 2013-03-28 04:40:26]
219 Post contains images wilco737 : No, not in service. First flight for her will be to LAX on March 31st. Yes, a new destination for the 748i, but not with D-ABYG according to my sourc
220 na : D-ABYG is the first 748 with a large antenna behind the hump. Is that the internet connection? And if so, are the first four planes to be retrofitted?
221 Post contains images wilco737 : As far as I know yes, this is the FlyNet. All airplanes are planned to have FlyNet on board. When that happens: I don't know. wilco737
222 Post contains links and images cargolex : Already in the A.net DB, of course: View Large View MediumPhoto © A. Kwanten
223 Post contains links KarelXWB : RC547 has been delivered: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/K...D/history/20130328/2000Z/KPAE/RKSI
224 douglasyxz : @ Wilco737: Who is doing these delivery flights, is it regular staff that rotates like on normal flights or is it a special team?
225 Laddie : RC581 delivered 28 March. Delivery flight in April. By my records, that makes 6 747-8 deliveries this year, all of them in March.
226 KarelXWB : Correct. And what about RC508?
227 sweair : When will KE take their 784is? As they have them on order?
228 747classic : Like Air China, Korean will wait until the next block of 747-8 Intercontinental aircraft will become available in 2014. This block will include the e
229 hannahpa : When the PIP2 gets installed, Will this make the 747-8 more attractive to potential buyers???? This might boost sales.... When will the PIPs get insta
230 747classic : At the moment there is no PIP2 scheduled for the GEnx-2B, only a PIP. Your mentioned PIP2 is scheduled for the GEnx-1B at the B787. This airframe/eng
231 KarelXWB : How do we know for sure that LN 1492 will be the first a/c with those improvements, and not LN 1490 or 1491 (or another one)?
232 hannahpa : @747Classic: So do you think that the 747-8I will be more attractive to potential buyers once the PIP and other mods are done in 2014? I would love to
233 747classic : Nothing is known for sure in the present aviation world. We only know that L/N1492 will be fully modified, according quotes of several Lufthansa repr
234 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : RC573 is on the move, refurbishment looks complete. (picture uploaded by kpaekilo1, http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/8605757508/)[Edited 2013
235 Post contains images 747classic : Post delivery maintenance by Lufthansa Technic of D-ABYG seems to have been completed. First operational flight of D-ABYG observed from EDDF towards K
236 SEPilot : Unfortunately for the 748i, I think the 777X is going to completely eclipse it by offering almost as much capacity with significantly lower operating
237 hannahpa : One last question about the 748I. When the PIP is approoved for the GenX-2B, will the current customers get the PIPs installed on their existing fleet
238 Post contains links 747classic : Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (April 01 - 2013) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
239 Laddie : It will be prepped for storage this month. Handover ("technical delivery") might happen 5 April. Storage location is TBD. Delivery flight from storag
240 KarelXWB : There was an article on cargofacts.net, Cargolux is in talk with Boeing to delay some deliveries. I'm not sure if RC508 is one of them. Boeing flew 2
241 747classic : For all 747-8 series, not only the 747-8I : Depending the "small letters" in the purchase agreement of the airline (or lessor) with General Electric
242 mattcawby : D-ABYI is now painted, it was in the 45-01 this afternoon.
243 Post contains images wilco737 : Usually it is one of the technical pilots who have the training and permission to do the last flights to check if everything is ok. And they are in S
244 Laddie : Good question. The schedule shows the handover as a "technical acceptance." I'm an engineer, not a business man, so I don't know what that means. The
245 Post contains links KarelXWB : Thanks for the info Laddie. Delivery flight PAE-HKG right now: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G...8/history/20130402/1500Z/KPAE/VHHH
246 PHX787 : So why did KZ but their frames in MZJ? Are they not taking them up for a while or is there financial issues at stake? I'll try to ask my contact who w
247 KarelXWB : Like ABC, KZ is probably deferring their deliveries until some 744 aircraft will leave the fleet. Weak cargo market = no room for expansion.
248 Post contains links 747classic : Three 747-8F aircraft will join the KZ fleet during FY 2013, see KZ business plan : http://www.nca.aero/e/news/2012/documents/PRP_E.pdf However no sch
249 PHX787 : Did some background on this....I'm not sure how quickly KZ is going to retire their 744s...some of them seem to be kinda new, and most have been in g
250 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : RC508 is the first 747 parked at the new delivery center. http://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/status/319552330280357890/photo/1
251 CCA : Opens April 8th is there a delivery on the 8th?[Edited 2013-04-03 19:09:44]
252 uaeflyer : Aren't EK cargo suppose to get their first B748F this year ??
253 747classic : No DAE Capital ordered aircraft for EK are presently scheduled in the 2013 firing order (scheduled for assembly), see reply 238 in this thread.[Edite
254 Post contains links KarelXWB : The official opening was today, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/8616759033/ Maybe the first delivery will be on April 8.
255 Post contains links and images 747classic : One of the first pictures of D-ABYG, after Post Delivery Maintenance, with here new name added : Baden-Württemberg. D-ABYG, Departing LAX, RW25L, cal
256 na : Thanks for posting. So the tradition remains that the 747s carry the names of German states (and later major cities maybe). D-ABYH then probably "Ham
257 Post contains images wilco737 : That would be a perfect fit, the H in the registration and Hamburg. But I haven't heard if that's happening or not. Fingers crossed. wilco737
258 747classic : Latest info : Estimated delivery dates for the next 2 months : LN1438--- RC554-- Cathay #4-----B-LJD------ 23 April LN1476--- RC582-- Atlas Air #9---
259 KarelXWB : Huh, delivery of RC028 has slipped a whole month?
260 Post contains links KarelXWB : The 3 extra CX frames are now official: http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
261 Post contains links wilco737 : Part 12 now available here: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production #12 (by wilco737 Apr 4 2013 in Civil Aviation) Thanks.
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