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Current DL 744 Routes  
User currently offlineb764 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 753 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 14929 times:

I've lost track of where they are flying in/out of for winter 2013. Anyone have know where they will be going in Summer 2013?

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlinepremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 14902 times:

Sorry, this is for Summer 2013..

SEA, BKK and KIX will see the additions for summer. The others are current..

SEA-NRT
JFK-NRT
ATL-NRT
DTW-NRT
NRT-MNL
NRT-TPE
NRT-BKK
NRT-HNL
JFK-TLV
DTW-NGO
NGO-MNL
HNL-KIX

[Edited 2013-01-01 21:06:24]

[Edited 2013-01-01 21:08:30]


Now You're Flying Smart.
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25197 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14823 times:

You can download the DL flight schedule

http://www.delta.com/schedules/trave...eservations/flight_sched/index.jsp

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User currently offlineConcordski From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14794 times:

Interesting note that I thought was interesting is that DL's JFK-TLV is the only 747 route that doesn't either originate or terminate in Japan.

User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14801 times:

Current routes

DL 172 MNL-NRT-JFK
DL 173 JFK-NRT-MNL

DL 268 JFK-TLV
DL 269 TLV-JFK

DL 275 DTW-NRT-TPE
DL 276 TPE-NRT-DTW

DL 277 HNL-KIX
DL 278 KIX-HNL

DL 295 ATL-NRT
DL 296 NRT-ATL

DL 578 NRT-HNL
DL 579 HNL-NRT

DL 629 DTW-NGO-MNL
DL 630 MNL-NGO-DTW

DL 638 NRT-HNL
DL 639 HNL-NRT


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14765 times:

Quoting premobrimo (Reply 1):
ATL-NRT

Wasn't this a 77L last year?

Quoting Concordski (Reply 3):
Interesting note that I thought was interesting is that DL's JFK-TLV is the only 747 route that doesn't either originate or terminate in Japan.

Yep but remember another 744 comes in from NRT so this plane could be originally sent from NRT from time to time.

Where are the 744 crew bases, besides DTW?



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User currently offlinepremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14702 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):

Only pilot base is DTW.



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User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 14679 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
Wasn't this a 77L last year?

It was a 744 most of 2012, but had previously been a 77L (generally continuing onto SIN at that time, I believe). DL currently has the ATL flight numbers tied to PVG, with change of gauge to 333 for NRT-PVG-NRT.


User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 5):
Wasn't this a 77L last year?

early last year. As soon as Delta could run it with lie-flats it went back the 747.



yep.
User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3662 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14387 times:

Quoting premobrimo (Reply 1):

NRT-MNL
NGO-MNL

Has either route been any less than a 744 in recent years?



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User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14351 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9):
Has either route been any less than a 744 in recent years?

Not that I can recall, though DL did for a time supplement NRT-MNL with a second flight using the 752 on peak days.


User currently offlinenickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14301 times:

Does anyone know if DL is still considering using the 744 on LAX-SYD? I know there were rumours of this in a thread here a few months ago.

User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14202 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 9):
Has either route been any less than a 744 in recent years?

at one point DTW-NGO-MNL was a 777. IIRC it was when DTW-PVG was a 744.



yep.
User currently offlinecentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13997 times:

When was DTW-NGO-MNL a 777? How'd I miss that?


Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13790 times:

Quoting nickofatlanta (Reply 11):
Does anyone know if DL is still considering using the 744 on LAX-SYD?

Do they really need that extra capacity to SYD?



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User currently offlineHooverman From Netherlands, joined Oct 2011, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13243 times:

Quoting premobrimo (Reply 1):
SEA-NRT
JFK-NRT
ATL-NRT
DTW-NRT
NRT-MNL
NRT-TPE
NRT-BKK
NRT-HNL
JFK-TLV
DTW-NGO
NGO-MNL
HNL-KIX

I was hoping for DTW-AMS but I guess they need the aircraft somewhere else.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13109 times:

DL did not operate a 744 on any of the DTW-AMS flights in Summer 2012 and is not planning to again in 2013. One of the flights will be a 777 though.

LAX-SYD is not scheduled or planned to be changed from a 77L to a 744. The timing if at all would be during the Southern Hemisphere summer / Northern Winter (which is now).

If anything, DL would like to get a 744 on ATL-GRU, but they apparently cannot get the slots in the weight class.


User currently offlineworkhorse From France, joined Jul 2005, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12736 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 4):
DL 172 MNL-NRT-JFK
DL 173 JFK-NRT-MNL

DL 268 JFK-TLV
DL 269 TLV-JFK

DL 275 DTW-NRT-TPE
DL 276 TPE-NRT-DTW

DL 277 HNL-KIX
DL 278 KIX-HNL

DL 295 ATL-NRT
DL 296 NRT-ATL

DL 578 NRT-HNL
DL 579 HNL-NRT

DL 629 DTW-NGO-MNL
DL 630 MNL-NGO-DTW

DL 638 NRT-HNL
DL 639 HNL-NRT

Seems that the planes routing goes like that:

MNL-NGO-DTW-NRT-TPE
TPE-NRT-DTW-NGO-MNL

MNL-NRT-JFK-TLV
TLV-JFK-NRT-MNL

ATL-NRT-HNL
HNL-NRT-ATL

NRT-HNL-KIX
KIX-HNL-NRT

How many aircraft is needed to do that schedule? I guess 4 aircraft for the first one, 2 for the last one and 3 for the remaining two. DL has 16 744's, so they definetely could open up some more routes with them, couln't they?


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12708 times:

Delta is flying a 747-400 today TPA -DTW, but that is carrying the University of Michigan football team after the Outback Bowl.

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12307 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
DL did not operate a 744 on any of the DTW-AMS flights in Summer 2012 and is not planning to again in 2013.

Last time they sent the 747 to AMS was S11.



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User currently offlineHooverman From Netherlands, joined Oct 2011, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11825 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
DL did not operate a 744 on any of the DTW-AMS flights in Summer 2012 and is not planning to again in 2013. One of the flights will be a 777 though.
Quoting B747forever (Reply 19):
Last time they sent the 747 to AMS was S11.


That's why I was hoping for a return. The 777 is a nice change though.


User currently offlinedlflynhayn From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 425 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10764 times:

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 20):
That's why I was hoping for a return. The 777 is a nice change though.

I will be on that 777 to AMS from DTW in two weeks can't wait..Was hoping to have a 747 to AMS this year but oh well,haven't been on a DL 777/747 so at least i can scratch one aircraft type off the bucket list  


User currently offlineMountainFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10625 times:

Quoting premobrimo (Reply 1):
SEA-NRT

My how things have changed. MSP-NRT is no longer a 744, but they're adding one to SEA.

I remember the days when you could see three or four 747's at MSP at once. I remember flying AMS-MSP on a 742 back in 2002.



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3070 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9843 times:

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 22):
My how things have changed. MSP-NRT is no longer a 744, but they're adding one to SEA.

NW's SEA-NRT was a 747-200 for many years up until the A332s were introduced, so that's not really something radically new.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9609 times:

What was the NW schedule back in summer 2008?


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User currently offlinejet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9763 times:

Quoting workhorse (Reply 17):
Seems that the planes routing goes like that:

That is insightful and interesting. Thanks.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 26, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9880 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 24):
What was the NW schedule back in summer 2008?

NW 744 Schedule for Summer 2008:

DTW-AMS
DTW-NRT
DTW-NRT (second daily flight)
DTW-KIX
DTW-NGO

HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT

MSP-NRT (8x weekly)

LAX-NRT

NRT-HKG
NRT-MNL
NRT-PEK

NGO-MNL

KIX-TPE


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 27, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9970 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 24):
What was the NW schedule back in summer 2008?

Out of DTW it would have been 2X NRT, 1X NGO, 1X AMS

I think KIX discontinued sometime before that.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9876 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 24):

I could be wrong for Northwest - these operated at one time. I believe KIX discontinued DTW before 2008, but I do recall Northwest operating at least 747s daily into DTW.

MNL-NGO-DTW
TPE-NRT-DTW
PEK-NRT-DTW
BOM-AMS-DTW

NRT-MSP

NRT-LAX

NRT-JFK
KIX-JFK


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 29, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9694 times:

DTW-KIX was dropped at the end of 2008

JFK-NRT was dropped back in 2005. For a brief period in the early 2000s, NW operated a 744 on a JFK-AMS flight between rotations back to NRT.

NW never flew JFK-KIX


User currently offlinedelta747tlv From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8773 times:

Quoting workhorse (Reply 17):
How many aircraft is needed to do that schedule? I guess 4 aircraft for the first one, 2 for the last one and 3 for the remaining two. DL has 16 744's, so they definetely could open up some more routes with them, couln't they?

Several 744s are regularly used for military charters and sports charters like fans and teams to super bowl or college bowl games. I'm sure we could use the 74 on other routes but it is so much more profitable on the charters.


User currently offlinenickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8075 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 29):

They did back in the day as part of their JFK-Osaka-Sydney route.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/12/bu...ve-against-northwest-airlines.html


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 32, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7906 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 26):
NW 744 Schedule for Summer 2008:

DTW-AMS
DTW-NRT
DTW-NRT (second daily flight)
DTW-KIX
DTW-NGO

HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT

MSP-NRT (8x weekly)

LAX-NRT

NRT-HKG
NRT-MNL
NRT-PEK

NGO-MNL

KIX-TPE

WOW....I didn't realize MSP had only one 744 route.



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User currently offlineairtechy From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7789 times:

I am extremely glad Delta will put the 747 back on the NRT to BKK route. Those BE seats on the 333 are horrible. Once the seats are reclined, it is impossible to exit the window seats gracefully. The new lie flats with direct aisle access ..especially the ones on the 747...are great. With their crazy business class seating arrangement, I just don't understand how UA can compete against the new Delta seating.

Also, the current NRT to BKK flights are always packed. Maybe I can get on now.   


User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 34, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7423 times:

Quoting centrair (Reply 13):

off and on last year.



yep.
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7421 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 29):
DTW-KIX was dropped at the end of 2008

JFK-NRT was dropped back in 2005. For a brief period in the early 2000s, NW operated a 744 on a JFK-AMS flight between rotations back to NRT.

NW never flew JFK-KIX

You are 100% right - I was half asleep when I wrote that. I meant LAX-KIX, but I could also be wrong on that. I know DTW was getting 5 regularly scheduled 744s a day for a while, now just 2 NGO and NRT as some of the other routes to Asia are 772s

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 32):
WOW....I didn't realize MSP had only one 744 route.

DTW was almost always the Asian hub for NW at least since they built the DTW hub after the REpublic merger in 1986. MSP pretty much only got the one NWA Asian flight, which was a 742 for most of the 1990s. They also didn't get much from Europe - had an Oslo flight for a short while in the 1990s, but in the 2000s just LGW and AMS until they recently added CDG too, so DTW was also the NWA European hub in the US.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 36, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6885 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 32):
Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 26):
NW 744 Schedule for Summer 2008:

DTW-AMS
DTW-NRT
DTW-NRT (second daily flight)
DTW-KIX
DTW-NGO

HNL-KIX
HNL-NRT

MSP-NRT (8x weekly)

LAX-NRT

NRT-HKG
NRT-MNL
NRT-PEK

NGO-MNL

KIX-TPE

WOW....I didn't realize MSP had only one 744 route.

At the same time, it shows the 744 was utilized to the very limit in '08



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 37, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6298 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 35):
DTW was almost always the Asian hub for NW at least since they built the DTW hub after the REpublic merger in 1986. MSP pretty much only got the one NWA Asian flight, which was a 742 for most of the 1990s. They also didn't get much from Europe - had an Oslo flight for a short while in the 1990s, but in the 2000s just LGW and AMS until they recently added CDG too, so DTW was also the NWA European hub in the US.

This is not true. In the late 90s MSP-NRT was twice daily, in addition to daily MSP-KIX service as well 3x weekly MSP-HKG that operated for a short time.

Jeremy


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 38, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6067 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 36):
At the same time, it shows the 744 was utilized to the very limit in '08

Yes, and this was really the last time the 744 fleet was effectively scheduled to its maximum utilization. Although the 744 on DTW-AMS was generally a summer-only upgauge at this point.

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 37):
This is not true. In the late 90s MSP-NRT was twice daily, in addition to daily MSP-KIX service as well 3x weekly MSP-HKG that operated for a short time.

I can't rememeber which routes were 747-100/200/400 during these periods. Also MSP-HNL was flown periodically with a 742.

Quoting nickofatlanta (Reply 31):
They did back in the day as part of their JFK-Osaka-Sydney route

Never knew that this route was operated.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 32):
WOW....I didn't realize MSP had only one 744 route.

It's been that way since the late 90s, except of when NW periodically had more than 1 flight per day on MSP-NRT.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 39, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 38):
Yes, and this was really the last time the 744 fleet was effectively scheduled to its maximum utilization. Although the 744 on DTW-AMS was generally a summer-only upgauge at this point.

Now post-merger has DL ever used the 744 on DTW-AMS?



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User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 40, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 39):

last year.



yep.
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 41, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5819 times:

The last time DL flew the 744 on DTW-AMS was summer 2011.

User currently offlinemplsjefe From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 5797 times:
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Any chance DL will bring the 744 back to MSP-NRT. Love the 77L, but miss the Queen of the skies...

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 43, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 5763 times:

There is always a chance, but its not scheduled to happen at this time.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 44, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 5644 times:

Quoting mplsjefe (Reply 42):
Any chance DL will bring the 744 back to MSP-NRT. Love the 77L, but miss the Queen of the skies...
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 43):
There is always a chance, but its not scheduled to happen at this time.

the chance I see is if the JFK-TLV route gets downgagued to a 77L....always strikes me that this route is a 744 route.



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 45, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 5554 times:

Quoting centrair (Reply 13):

When was DTW-NGO-MNL a 777? How'd I miss that?

It was changed to a 777 briefly after the traffic slump that followed the Tohoku earthquake.


User currently offlineCactus742 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

Isn't HNL a 744 base? Or at least a crew base?


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 47, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 44):
the chance I see is if the JFK-TLV route gets downgagued to a 77L....always strikes me that this route is a 744 route.

JFK-TLV is not getting downgauged.
There is currently no DL 777's that fly into JFK. The 744s are routed as such they fly NRT-JFK-TLV-JFK-NRT. In addition, DL cut its ATL-TLV flights in favor on concentrating traffic to JFK and upgauging to the 744. There is plenty of demand from NYC for TLV.

Quoting Cactus742 (Reply 46):
Isn't HNL a 744 base? Or at least a crew base?

HNL is only an FA crew base, not a pilot base.
The only 744 pilot base is DTW.
MSP and ANC used to have a 747-200 pilot base.


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4220 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Did NW/DL ever send the 744 to London either LHR or LGW?


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 49, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5017 times:

Quoting dlflynhayn (Reply 51):
Are you even an employee?? cause im sure i saw it on delta travelnet last year when i was planning on going to AMS.It didn't last that long i believe was only operating for a few months....Ended sometime before summer maybe even May,not sure if i can go and look up last year on the travelnet.

I'm not an employee and do not have travelenet access. I am in DTW weekly and did make a trip to AMS last summer and I can tell you they did not regularly schedule the 744 on DTW-AMS in 2012.

Plus this topic came up numerous times on a.net last year, and the 744 was not loaded in the schedule for 2012. 2011, yes it was there.
DL 747 DTW-AMS Summer Schedule 2012? (by b764 Oct 16 2011 in Civil Aviation)
DL 744 Routes Summer 2012 (by PHX787 Apr 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)
Current DL 744 Routes? (by Jackbr Aug 5 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting brilondon (Reply 52):
Did NW/DL ever send the 744 to London either LHR or LGW?

NW never had access to LHR until 2008.
NW flew LGW with 747-100 & 200s, then switched to DC-10-30, then to A330-300 (then briefly with a 75A when they ran DTW-LHR & LGW concurrently).

LGW was not a scheduled 744 route, but it is possilble and likely they did receive a 744 substitution as some point.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 50, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4981 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 50):
Summer 2011 was the last time DL schedule the 747-400 on DTW-AMS.

I (and others) are sure of this.

Correct. The 744 was deployed on DL242 that summer.



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User currently offlinedlflynhayn From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 425 posts, RR: 1
Reply 51, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 53):
I am in DTW weekly and did make a trip to AMS last summer and I can tell you they did not regularly schedule the 744 on DTW-AMS in 2012.

Can't seem to find the Schedules in the winter of 2012 from DTW-AMS..I know the 747 wasn't deployed in the summer thus why i said winter schedule! oh well maybe i am off since i cant find it..Sorry


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 52, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 4):
DL 295 ATL-NRT
DL 296 NRT-ATL

So does this a/c sit at ATL for over 22 hours? According to the schedule, DL 295 departs ATL at 12:05 PM and DL 296 arrives at ATL at 1:40 PM.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 53, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

Yes, and provides an opportunity for line RON/RAD maintenance.

User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 54, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 41):

Crap sorry. Summer 2011.



yep.
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 55, posted (1 year 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 52):

Yes, a friend was telling me that the other day. Is it hogging a gate the whole time?

That thing could make 3 MCO runs!



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineKDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 56, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

I flew on a DAL B744 from AMS-DTW in June 2011. I really wish the B744 would return to the DTW-AMS route because two engines across the pond is boring :P

At least now DTW-AMS DAL248 has been moved up to a B772  

I find it curious that the B744 no longer flies out of MSP since it flew out of there for so many years. One would think you would see it subbed in now and then but I haven't seen any evidence of that. Now if only it could resume LAX-NRT and then I could take a domestic repo from DTW-LAX maybe 



NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 57, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 56):
I find it curious that the B744 no longer flies out of MSP since it flew out of there for so many years.

Being closer to Asia, MSP generally got 747 Classics (to NRT) and DC-10s (for other oceanic flights) during the 1970s-2005 or so, when the 747 Classic was retired. The 744 was mainly used from DTW and JFK IIRC. MSP-HKG was 744, of course. Something tells me that flight had $199 return fares in about 1997 IIRC. Of course, oil was 10 dollars a barrel, so why not. NW still lost their butts on that.

[Edited 2013-01-04 22:08:06]

User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 58, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 56):
At least now DTW-AMS DAL248 has been moved up to a B772

Well, I'm not 100% sure I would say it moved "up" in that it isn't an upgauge. The B772 seats fewer pax than the A333 in DL's configurations.

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 56):
Now if only it could resume LAX-NRT and then I could take a domestic repo from DTW-LAX maybe 

I suppose that could happen as a one time thing, but generally speaking, DL would be unlikely to schedule a domestic 744 for this purpose. They would simply rotate the planes through NRT as they do now and have when they previously operated LAX-NRT on the 744. But hey, we can all dream!  Smile

[Edited 2013-01-04 22:19:09]

User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

On DTW-NGO-MNL: currently, this flight currently operates 5x weekly. Philippine news outlets have reported that DL filed an application with the Civil Aeronautics Board of the Philippines to increase service to once daily by May. According to the Daily Tribune:

Quote:
Delta Air Lines has filed a revised schedule with the Civil Aviation Bureau to increase services from Manila to Detroit via Nagoya from five times weekly to a daily service. The sixth frequency will commence on March 5, 2013 and the increase to daily will occur on May 3, 2013.

The increase in frequency manifests Delta’s continued commitment to the Philippines, particularly with the Philippine Congress approval of Senate Bill 3343 on Dec. 19, 2012. The recently approved legislation will revise the current taxation on foreign airlines by eliminating the Common Carrier’s Tax and the Gross Philippine Billings Tax.

http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/...r-eyes-daily-flights-between-us-rp

(N.B.: The "Civil Aviation Bureau" is the Civil Aeronautics Board. As always, shoddy journalism.)

For those who are unfamiliar with Philippine civil aviation, DL is one of a handful of airlines (KL being the most vocal of the bunch) advocating for the abolition of the common carrier and gross Philippine billing taxes, taxes passed in the 1990s both as a revenue-generating measure and as a protectionist measure to help PR. These taxes generated around P2.5 billion for the Philippines, but they are set to be abolished sometime this year if Congress passes the final measure by February, presuming that the elections don't get in the way.

I presume there are enough 744s for this route to go daily, right?


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 60, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 58):
Well, I'm not 100% sure I would say it moved "up" in that it isn't an upgauge. The B772 seats fewer pax than the A333 in DL's configurations.

That is a good point. DL's A330-300 seat more than the 772's. However, DTW-AMS has also see A330-200s and 767-300ERs is recent times too. Capacity is always adjusted to match demand. Plus DTW-CDG is now going 2x daily during peak season. (One AF & one DL)

Quoting steex (Reply 58):
I suppose that could happen as a one time thing, but generally speaking, DL would be unlikely to schedule a domestic 744 for this purpose. They would simply rotate the planes through NRT as they do now and have when they previously operated LAX-NRT on the 744. But hey, we can all dream!

No, however look for a limited amount of scheduled 744 flight around Thanksgiving or possibly 4th of July weekend on DTW-LAX or ATL-LAX. They usually aren't loaded until about 2 months out.

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 59):
I presume there are enough 744s for this route to go daily, right?

Yes, DTW-NGO-MNL has been daily in the past.


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