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NK A320 Clips US Airways Plane At FLL  
User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13058 times:
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It seems a NK a320 clipped the tail of a US Airways a320 at was parked on Monday night. No injuries reported and minor damage to each aircraft.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Spirit-...-Lauderdale-Airport-185362841.html


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User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12710 times:

I wonder if this was an east or west airplane.. And i would also like to see the damage as there doesn't seem to be much info at this time ! At least everyone is O.K.

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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12663 times:

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 1):
And i would also like to see the damage
http://i49.tinypic.com/70vwbr.png



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12529 times:

It was ship 679, which is west.


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User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12420 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 2):

Ahh Dang .. 679 thats one of the newer ones!! I wouldn't have complained if it would've been one of the dirty dozen.. with A1 IAE's haha  

Anyway, thanks for the reg. # wn676!!

Doesn't look TOO bad ..

Cactus

Edited for Typo

[Edited 2013-01-02 07:40:46]


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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11258 times:

I don't understand how he hit it if it was on the remote spot. He had to have gone way off the taxi line to hit it. I've seen Condor with the 763 taxi behind there with planes on remote.

User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11146 times:
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Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 5):

That could be a possibility. I flew NK out of LGA a few weeks ago at night and I observed the lighting on the side of the taxiway get a bit closer than normal for about a minute before the plane made a sharp-feeling merge left, so I guess the pilot corrected himself pretty quickly. However, I don't think we got far enough off-center to have hit another aircraft if there had been one.



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User currently offlinetwincommander From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10853 times:

looks like its just superficial damage to the APU cowl. swap the cowls i would bet and all should be well. then again, that picture doesnt really show the meat and taters of the damage.

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 4):
Ahh Dang .. 679 thats one of the newer ones!! I wouldn't have complained if it would've been one of the dirty dozen.. with A1 IAE's haha

one can only dream of that day to come...


User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9785 times:

Quoting twincommander (Reply 7):

I have a feeling the day will come pretty quickly ! Especially with all the new 321's we are getting. But hey, who knows. A 320 had an APU fire at the gate in PHX on Christmas Eve or the day before, ship 624 IIRC. Leakin fuel everywhere apparently. No good ! Those frames with A1 's have a few hours on em .

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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8957 times:

Quoting Cactus105 (Reply 8):
I have a feeling the day will come pretty quickly ! Especially with all the new 321's we are getting. But hey, who knows. A 320 had an APU fire at the gate in PHX on Christmas Eve or the day before, ship 624 IIRC. Leakin fuel everywhere apparently. No good ! Those frames with A1 's have a few hours on em .

That was 627. Went back in to service the next day. They just won't go away!



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User currently offlineusairways16BWI From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8847 times:

Any pics of the NK A320? I'm sure the damage to the wingtip fence is minor though.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8330 times:

Looks like it more the pressure bulkhead in the aft. Not just the APU cowling.


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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8102 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 11):

Looks like it more the pressure bulkhead in the aft. Not just the APU cowling.

This is well aft of the pressure bulkhead. The whole tail cone section is unpressurized.



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User currently offlineCactus105 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7798 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 9):
That was 627

Gracias!! I have some type of lysdexia i suppose   although I don't know how you mix up a 4 and a 7!! Same Type of old beater tho



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User currently offlinen126dl From United States of America, joined May 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7693 times:
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User currently offlinea36001 From Australia, joined Sep 2012, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

What would the pilot's do just after hitting another parked plane, beside the obvious curse words, do they just stop as quick as they can and shut everything down and PA the cabin and call the tower? I imagine their reaction would be more than Ooops sorry bout that..be interested to know  

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7421 times:

This guy didn't stop too quick.

http://youtu.be/9oh7VRdcm0A



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7163 times:

Spirit Completes Preliminary Investigation on Flight 403

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/spirit...nvestigation-flight-233930422.html



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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4993 times:
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Quoting usairways16BWI (Reply 10):

I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5564 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 18):

I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.

Nah... looks like the wingtip fence cut through the bottom of the tailcone. Do a check of the nuts and bolts, remove and CDL the fence (or replace it if you have a spare), and Bob's your uncle  



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User currently offlinetwincommander From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 18):
I'd also like to see some pics of that one. I want to know how the US plane had so much damage yet the NK plane returned to service "hours later". An impact like that had to have left some decent danage on ths NK too.

apu cowl is very lightly built compared to the wingtip fence, and wing for that matter.

you can remove the fence per CDL and fly with restrictions. havent seen one yet though.


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4530 times:

Aircraft was ferried to BHM for heavy maintenance repair.

Sounds like it could be out for a few weeks.



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4517 times:

I think you might mean BFM in Mobile as ST Aerospace is there. There is no MRO in BHM.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4477 times:

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 5):
I don't understand how he hit it if it was on the remote spot. He had to have gone way off the taxi line to hit it. I've seen Condor with the 763 taxi behind there with planes on remote.

   I'm at a loss as to how the pilot flying could've clipped an aircraft when there's so much room to spare on that taxiway.


User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4449 times:

I guess NK pax get what they pay tod. A few quick jostles and bumps might be in order for such a low fare.  
Maybe it's a plan to try and take out competitors' aircraft.

But seriously, how does one pull a 320 that far over and not correct it? That taxiway isn't really all that tiny


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Reply 25, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4465 times:
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Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 19):
Quoting twincommander (Reply 20):

Hmm, seems to me like there would be more time required for a proper investigation and inspection. I guess those workers down in FLL work fast!

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 23):
Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 24):

I'm also wondering how they wouldn't realize they were so far off center.

Quoting b757capt (Reply 21):

Which aircraft is this? The US Airways I'm assuming?


And on a side note, I've been on both NK and US a320s, and I still prefer the oldest of US a320s to a brand new NK a320! Just saying.....  



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User currently offlinebeechtobus From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4404 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 25):

"Hmm, seems to me like there would be more time required for a proper investigation and inspection. I guess those workers down in FLL work fast! "

And that's why it's called a prelimary investigation, sure' an in depth investigation would take a little longer but I'm sure initial fact finding can amply be done in 2 days.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 25):

"I'm also wondering how they wouldn't realize they were so far off center"

A little jumping to conclusions here, that they were off center. The RON parking pads were extremely full in FLL on the night of the 31st due to reduced schedules for most airlines for New Year's Eve/day. The preliminary investigation determined that the Spirit was on centerline, and the USAirways was not properly parked on the aux/ron pad. That part of taxiway T is a very dark at night, but none the less, on a controlled taxiway, you are guaranteed separation from parked aircraft if cleared onto a particular taxiway.


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Reply 27, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4043 times:
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Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):
The RON parking pads were extremely full in FLL on the night of the 31st due to reduced schedules for most airlines for New Year's Eve/day

I didn't think of that. My apologies.

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):
USAirways was not properly parked on the aux/ron pad.

I hadn't seen that. Once again, my apologies.



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User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4028 times:

Quoting beechtobus (Reply 26):

Even with the full pad, I'm thinking they were off center. Less so than needed to hit anything normally, but I just don't think the US airways plane was sticking far into the taxiway. By the sounds of it, the US plane had been there at least a little while and probably passed by at least a few other taxiing planes.

Just speculation, but I don't see how NK would hit it without going off the center line a bit.


User currently offlinewinstonlegthigh From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 16):
This guy didn't stop too quick.

http://youtu.be/9oh7VRdcm0A

Hit and run drivers... tsk tsk



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User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3988 times:

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 22):

You are correct. My fault!!!!!



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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2937 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3628 times:
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Quoting winstonlegthigh (Reply 29):

lol

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 28):

That's what I was thinkingg too, but beechtobus brought up the the US a320 was improperly parked, so it might not have been.



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