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DC-7C Ditches In Atlantic Ocean 1992  
User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 580 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11941 times:

In late 1992 a DC-7C cargo plane ditched into the Atlantic Ocean south of Ft.Lauderdale.I think it was leaving MIA for Hati or Dominican Repeblic. Can anyone fill me in on the ditching into the ocean,How was it removed from the ocean? Im sure the plane had to be broken up.Who was the original operator of this DC-7C?

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User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3868 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11855 times:

Here's the original article from the Sentinel Sun which answers some of your questions.

Cargo Plane Ditches In Ocean Dc-7c Flying Without Certification Loses 2 Of 4 Engines
By ARDY FRIEDBERG, MICHAEL E. YOUNG and KEN KAYE
November 7, 1992

LoneStarMike


User currently onlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2370 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

Here is the NTSB incident report: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20001211X16081&key=1
Here is a news article from the time: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/199...2280223_1_cargo-crew-members-plane

It was operated by an Dominican airline called Aero Tin, who apparently had no authority to fly to the US.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

The NTSB report says the wreckage was removed approx 2 weeks later but doesn't say how.

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20001211X16081&key=1


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11306 times:

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
Who was the original operator of this DC-7C?

Sabena (OO-SFB).


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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3190 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10407 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 3):
The NTSB report says the wreckage was removed approx 2 weeks later but doesn't say how.

I also noted the NTSB report indicated corrosion from 2 weeks of submersion at 50%.
That seems incredibly fast, or was that trying to imply the plane was in bad shape before ditching?


Okie


User currently offlineUA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10253 times:

Quoting okie (Reply 5):

Both. Salt water really does a number on older planes, but it was probably not in the best shape to begin with.

Another issue is how many times they managed to fly out of MIA/US without certification, and if it can/will happen again. Or has without anyone's knowledge.


User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1015 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

I used to see this DC7C coming and going all the time in MIA. When it finally "went in the drink", I flew my plane over the wreckage in shallow water and you could see most of it from the air and the vertical stabilizer was sticking out of the water as was the top of the fuselage. At the time, there were still 4 or 5 DC7C's either based at MIA or flying in and out of MIA but 2 of those 5 were grounded at F.A. Connor's ramp so only 3 were airworthy. The last to leave was good old Trans-Air-Link's former KLM DC7C when they re-based elsewhere. I knew we had it good spotting at MIA but now it seems almost like a dream!

User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3094 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 6):
Another issue is how many times they managed to fly out of MIA/US without certification, and if it can/will happen again. Or has without anyone's knowledge.

The incident was over 20 years ago. Aero Tin, to my knowledge, ceased operations.


User currently offlineajhYXE From Canada, joined May 2011, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

The article states the aircraft dropped fuel at a very low altitude. Would the fuel still be in liquid form? I would hate to be standing beneath it at the time.

Quoting catiii (Reply 8):
The incident was over 20 years ago. Aero Tin, to my knowledge, ceased operations.

I believe UA787DEN was referring to the possibility of another operator doing the same thing.



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User currently offlinesaafnav From South Africa, joined Mar 2010, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Quoting okie (Reply 5):
That seems incredibly fast,

Skin of aircraft oxidized amazingly fast.

A few years ago (2006 I think) an L-29 went into Table Bay, Cape Town.

The wreckage was removed the next day, but most of the wing skin was oxidized away already. Only the paint kept the profile of the wings.

Erich



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