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Large Easyjet Aircraft Order Looming?  
User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 13435 times:

I was reading an article in the ft about easyjet and a potential growth plan.
It suggested 3 options, one though a large order either with a or b. The other to buy another carrier
With orders such as norweigen or wizz. The last option is to do nothing . They have options on another 40 a/c
So could grow at 5% year but could miss out on opportunities to expand.

What do people think is the most likely ?

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13179 times:

I'd prefer they order their tail-mounted, unducted fan engine design that they unveiled a couple years ago.
Looked great! Economical! Everyone happy.


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 12722 times:

I think they will order more a/c. NEO has to be a front runner, I wouldnt think they would go back to B after dropping them, but we could have said the same about going to A when the 73G's replaced the 733's I suppose. Depending on the size of the order, a split fleet could be quite possible like DY of course.

However, if that is going to be the case I also think they may go C Series, I think it has a real chance. Would be good to cover those smaller markets like BRS, LPL and NCL. CS300 & 320NEO could work pretty well IMO.

Quoting f4f3a (Thread starter):
The other to buy another carrier

Not a lot of options really.

LS locally for full coverage of the UK.

ZB - sure hope not as an ex LTN boy, but they are drifting away from IT holidays into U2's territory with a complementary fleet, plus their mx hangars & head offices next door to each other at LTN.

W6 maybe - right a/c but wrong engines.

The rest Im not sure the current owners would be keen to sell eg HV, HG for fear of a short term gain to close themselves out of the market long term as Europe turns orange.



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6953 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12554 times:

Aer Lingus, Air Berlin, come to mind as well run potential acquisitions.


The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12088 times:

A Boeing order may not seem that far fetched since it would be easier to run past stelios .
I don't think air Berlin would be suitable as there are a lot of problems there .
One possibility would be l agil azure based in cdg and ory. Slots would be good and they operate airbus a/c and give access to norh Africa.
It is a real gamble buying new planes unless they can get the same kind of deal they got last time, which I think would be difficult . I think it has become a sellers market with orders back logged many years.


User currently offlineparapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1509 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11838 times:

Won't happen but if Gatwick was chosen for the second (long) runway then it would be nice to see Easy Jet as the European "Spokes" for the new alternative international "Hub". They could provide a great cost effective service for both y and biz to most destinations in Europe/N Africa.

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11802 times:

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 4):
A Boeing order may not seem that far fetched since it would be easier to run past stelios .

I wouldn't be too sure... He burnt his bridges with Boeing. Even his new airline, Fastjet is Airbus only.



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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11617 times:

Quoting f4f3a (Thread starter):
What do people think is the most likely ?

If ezy has the same 'state of mind' as Ryanair has (ie demanding the same conditions as they got during their last order) you might think ezy would not order at all (just like Ryanair) given the huge amount of A320's Airbus has in its backlog (less likely to give huge discounts). Or is that more a typical Ryanair thing and will Easyjet pay the premium?


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 11046 times:

Quoting PH-BFA (Reply 7):

If ezy has the same 'state of mind' as Ryanair has (ie demanding the same conditions as they got during their last order) you might think ezy would not order at all (just like Ryanair) given the huge amount of A320's Airbus has in its backlog (less likely to give huge discounts). Or is that more a typical Ryanair thing and will Easyjet pay the premium?

U2 and FR are two compeltely different kettles of fish... U2's new management is not as aggresive as MOL and his cronies and the impression I get is that they would rather keep a good relationship the manufacturers instead of pissing them off, which is what Ryanair has done with Boeing and indeed Airbus (the latter who seemingly are refusing to sell him planes at cut price rates).



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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2037 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10715 times:

I really want to see U2 landing the next big coup by selecting an aircraft that beats the other airlines. After all, it's the airline I like most (although there are things I hate about it, too  ).

In Germany, the German Federal Railways/Deutsche Bahn monopoly on long-distance bus lines fell. Several long-distance bus enterprises were newly founded, and I've already traveled with one of them (DUS-BSL). The voyage took me nine hours and cost me US$ 51 (normal fare), while the discounted, early-booker railway fare for the same route clocks in at US$ 77, but the travel time is only 4.5 hours. Taking the bus is a great thing if you're tired and want to sleep (or if you have a book to read).

Somehow I can imagine the same development for low-cost carriers - modern turboprops with a capacity of 130 to 170 passengers, a travel time that is by about 10 to 30% longer, but cheaper fares.

What do you think?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
Fastjet

Does anybody know the cruising speed of Fastjet's A319s?


David

[Edited 2013-01-08 03:21:18]


Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7027 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10686 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 2):
Would be good to cover those smaller markets like BRS, LPL and NCL. CS300 & 320NEO could work pretty well IMO.

Sounds not too far fatched given that the A319NEO will be too much of an airplane for what they need carrying a lot of extra weight and has a range that is not needed by U2.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9335 times:

It would be great to see the cs 300 but I think it's prob too bigger risk since it hasn't flown yet. I had heard a rumour that
The c series had been ruled out and any a/c would be a vs b.


User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6437 times:

A319 cruise spd .72-.82 average cruise around.77

User currently offline0xigen From France, joined Dec 2012, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5513 times:

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 12):
A319 cruise spd .72-.82

A320 family aircraft cruise between 0.78 and 0.8. But the (recommended) Vne is 0.82  


User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2037 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 12):
Quoting 0xigen (Reply 13):

D'oh. Thank you, so I don't have to worry about flying in Africa.

And to keep it easy, Easyjet's pilots can only chose two cruise speeds, 0 and 1?   


David



Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 9):
Does anybody know the cruising speed of Fastjet's A319s?

I think your joke went over most peoples' heads!   



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