It was scheduled to fly from the Yamaguchi prefecture in western Japan to Tokyo's Haneda Airport.
But the domestic flight was grounded by Japan's ANA because brake parts to the rear left undercarriage needed replacing, a spokesman at Yamaguchi Ube Airport said.
An ANA spokeswoman said: "In the cockpit, an error message related to its brake system was displayed.
"The exact nature and the cause of the error message is not clear yet."
All 98 passengers on board were switched to another flight for Tokyo.
Heavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 635 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17630 times:
G´day
Next we get a new "breaking" thread here every time a stewardess... err - flight attendant drops the coffee kettle or in Asia more likely the tea kettle on a 787.
Lord have mercy!
Cheers
Peter
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." (Albert Einstein, 1879
CaptCufflinks From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17582 times:
Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 1): Next we get a new "breaking" thread here every time a stewardess.
Yes it is all very alarmist at the moment.
Hey - if you don't want to be so grumpy about the whole thing, just read some of the comments at the bottom of the Sky News article - it's like airliners.net for toddlers! Some of them certainly made me smile.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5342 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17050 times:
At this point, it's still possible that the brakes reached their service limit... with the information given, heck, we don't really know anything.
Or, it could be a legitimate fault. No doubt, those happen. Especially when you choose to electrify the brakes.....ugh.
They are using the title "A Series of Problems with Boeing's 'Dreamliner': Three Breakdowns in Three Days", by the way. Not a good press coverage in Europe...
Am I cured? Slept 5 hours on last long-haul flight...
holzmann From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 16734 times:
Of course DER SPIEGEL is running such a series! The Germans have every reason to promote the Boeing 787 as a failure. Because with it, DER SPIEGEL has more opportunity to label the US as a failure, especially US manufacturing, and at the same time promote a European (largely German) product. Slamming the US and lifting up German products are the two things DER SPIEGEL does best.
PlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 612 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 16600 times:
Quoting holzmann (Reply 7): Slamming the US and lifting up German products are the two things DER SPIEGEL does best.
Yes, sure. Such a title could only be explained by Der Spiegel's well-known rabid pro-Airbus stance. After all, they once dedicated an entire cover story to the A380:
FlyingAY From Finland, joined Jun 2007, 645 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 16493 times:
Quoting holzmann (Reply 7): Of course DER SPIEGEL is running such a series! The Germans have every reason to promote the Boeing 787 as a failure.
You really do not know Der Spiegel that well? They are famous for their anti-Airbus agenda. Would you think that American media would have every reason to promote any Airbus product as a failure? I didn't think so.
babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3514 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 16047 times:
If the aircraft is continually failing then people need to know about it. I won't fly it for 6 months after all these glitches are fixed.
There are very serious safety problems and unfortunately for Boeing and its new baby the travelling public need to make informed choices. That is the essence of capitalism itself.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
redzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15914 times:
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9219 posts, RR: 42 Reply 12, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15708 times:
Quoting CaptCufflinks (Reply 2): just read some of the comments at the bottom of the Sky News article - it's like airliners.net for toddlers! Some of them certainly made me smile.
One genius has it sussed: all the 787 issues are due to the carbon-fibre construction.
jayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 288 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15548 times:
Seriously how many flights were canceled or delayed yesterday do to braking issues where are the press releases for those flights? Its ridiculous every problem that a 787 has does not need to be discussed as though it were a serious issue.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26726 posts, RR: 83 Reply 14, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15526 times:
I wonder if this is similar to the braking issue one of the new LOT birds is reported to have experienced?
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26726 posts, RR: 83 Reply 16, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15468 times:
Quoting bohica (Reply 15): Someone needs to explain to me why this is newsworthy.
Because it happened to a 787.
That being said, this forum piled on the A380 during it's early days and you can be sure every glitch on the A350 will have it's own thread, as well.
God help us when the neo and MAX EIS. The sheer number of airframes will mean this forum will be nothing but glitch reports.
TC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 336 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15427 times:
I'm not surprised that UBJ airport doesn't have parts there to fix the problem - it's a 2-gate outpost that only has a few HND flights daily. I use it annually. Had this issue occurred at HND I doubt it would made the news at all and would have been quietly dealt with and fixed.
mfe777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 73 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 14996 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 10): If the aircraft is continually failing then people need to know about it. I won't fly it for 6 months after all these glitches are fixed.
There are very serious safety problems and unfortunately for Boeing and its new baby the travelling public need to make informed choices. That is the essence of capitalism itself.
Are you not flying the A380 as well? I ask because it has even more serious issues that have not been fixed on many aircraft yet, even after being in service for 6 years. Wing cracks, Engine fires and explosions. But.... a 787 needs a brake repaired, let's ban them from service.
KC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14764 times:
Bigger problem: 98 people on board? That flight was going to lose money anyway.
UALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2331 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14731 times:
Quoting mfe777 (Reply 19): I ask because it has even more serious issues that have not been fixed on many aircraft yet, even after being in service for 6 years. Wing cracks, Engine fires and explosions.
Engine fires and explosions? In plural? Show us your data, please. As for the wing cracks, they pose no safety risk whatsoever.
In any case, I don't think going the "and you even more" route is particularly useful. Here we are discussing the 787. There have been many threads about the A380 issues. And rightly so.
F9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4739 posts, RR: 30 Reply 22, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14682 times:
Guys... This is totally normal! Nothing big here. Its a new airplane! Hey! If I bought a new car... And it burst into flames... And the dealer and car maker told me that it was normal for a new car... I would totally understand! If the car started leaking gas, had a brake problem, and smoking arc electrical problems as well... I would understand! Its totally normal for a new car!
Hey, I will give Boeing credit here. It is indeed a new plane. We should expect these kinds of issues on a new plane. Heck, the Comet had some issues when it started flying too. And look, they fixed those problems, and the plane had a good history afterwards!
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 23, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14646 times:
Quoting babybus (Reply 10): If the aircraft is continually failing then people need to know about it. I won't fly it for 6 months after all these glitches are fixed.
There are very serious safety problems and unfortunately for Boeing and its new baby the travelling public need to make informed choices. That is the essence of capitalism itself.
A flight being cancelled due to a brake change is not new. Typically brakes last about 2000 flights, but from time to time they need replacing before then and flights get canceled if there are not spare parts. Anyone who flies knows that brakes, tires, etc all need occasional changing and sometimes if the part is not in stock a flight gets canceled.
I can't think of a more routine maintenance event other than a tire change. Next we will see a news article "dreamliner unsafe because of flat tire caused by airplane running over debris"
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9616 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15104 times:
Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 21): Bigger problem: 98 people on board? That flight was going to lose money anyway.
Maybe they cancelled it to save money
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 16): Quoting bohica (Reply 15):
Someone needs to explain to me why this is newsworthy.
Because it happened to a 787.
Exactly, only because of that. Its like with the A380 - every little problem is made ten times bigger by the media than if would be a 777.
25 hb88: rotfl - knowing the actual issues with the A380, I am more than happy to fly on the A380 (and I have repeatedly). Do you actually *know* anything abo
26 F9animal: Think about it for a second. How can you compare the 787 or A380 to a 777? The 777 is a proven airplane. The 787 has very few aircraft in service. St
27 phxa340: I never said that , you quoted the wrong person. But thanks for the lecture
28 RussianJet: The 787 was massively hyped, hugely late, long-awaited, then finally hailed as a huge leap forward in civil aerospace on entering service with an awfu
29 mfe777: Don't lecture me. You don't know me and you never will. I never said that the A380 was unsafe. I merely was pointing out how foolish and petty babybu
30 spacecadet: Planes are not like cars, you don't go flying around until the check engine light comes on or your brakes start squeaking. Every part on an airplane
31 N14AZ: I can assure you it's not that way. In general, Boeing has a good reputation in the German press. And even our German journalists are not that stupid
33 ABpositive: What you need to take into account though is that statistically speaking there are by far more 320s and 737s out there. Those are much more mature pr
34 pygmalion: There are 46+ 787 in service. Its not like there are only a handful flying around. An anti skid controller or a brake controller box going bad and req
35 737tdi: Aircraft brakes are "on condition only". I.E. Leaking, worn, excessive grabbing etc.. Aircraft brake Inspections are on a "scheduled maintenance inte
36 KC135Hydraulics: Strange. I work on two aircraft that both have mechanical linkages/cables going to the respective brake control valves/metering valves/etc etc. One's
37 737tdi: Doesn't it all fall back on "what you call modern?" The 737NG is certainly not a modern design but is modern just due to the fact they are still bein
38 glideslope: LOL, even better. "Aircraft Displays Failure Warning on Systems Status." Part to be flown in next day. PAX put on different frame, and reached destin
39 skinnerde: in fact spiegel also bashes the a380 whenever possible...so not a us manufacturer problem. i always get angry when i read an aviation related news th
41 hb88: You seemed uninformed in relation to your comparison with the A380, so I was pointing out some useful information. I don't need to know you, I just r
43 RussianJet: Hehe. I'm guessing that a hypothetical gun was being held to the head and a choice between the two was unavoidable. But yes, ideally I'd give both of
44 Stitch: In that case, since an A380 has experienced an unconfined disk failure and a 787 has not experienced an inflight cabin fire, I'd take the 787.
45 UALWN: Well, I'd rather avoid any of those situations. However, since the A380 has indeed had an unconfined disk failure resulting in very substantial damag
46 mfe777: There has never been a cabin fire in the 787, on the ground or in-flight. Your comparison is like asking whether you want to be on Swissair 111 or QF
47 PITingres: 50 inservice frames, several operating for more than a year, with something on the order of 40,000 revenue flight hours? (That's my off-the-cuff esti
48 pygmalion: press release from Boeing yesterday said 50,000 hours and averaging 150 flights a day.
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