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DL B763ER Interior Mods Schedule Part 2  
User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 26743 times:

Since the previous thread got archived, I thought I would start a Part 2 and copy the last current info and post relevant updates.

Previous Thread:
DL B763ER Interior Mods Schedule? (by audidudi Nov 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Looks like ship 1603 came out of mods and flew NRT-SFO today:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603

76G C30W38Y140
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1601-3, 1604*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1605-6, 1705, 1708* = 14/31 (45.2%)


Looks like 1604 and 1708 went into mods over the past few weeks according to flightaware, can anyone confirm?

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 191, 197*, 199 = 3/13 (23.1%)


Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks, 191 is back to active flying in the new config.

Total Complete: 25/58 (43.1%)

As previously noted...
-There may be others in for mod that I'm not privy to
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
Please correct if anything is wrong!

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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3034 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 26637 times:

Sorry - can you please remind me what exactly is being done to the 763s? Is it only international a/c that are being updated?

[Edited 2013-01-09 10:57:09]


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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 26577 times:

Quoting MaddogJT8D (Thread starter):
76G C30W38Y140

This is incorrect - as was stated on the previous thread the new 76G will have the same exact seat counts as the new 76Z. Furthermore the 76G ship type will go away once all mods are done, leaving 76Z as the sole high capacity ship type.

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 1):
Sorry - can you please remind me what exactly is being done to the 763s? Is it only international a/c that are being updated?

Look here for what is being done to the international 767 fleet:

Delta’s 767-300ER Fleet Getting a New Look


User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 26215 times:
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Other aircraft presumed to be in mods:
172 (Last seen at NRT 12/27/12)
190 (Last seen at NRT 12/23/12)

1708 flew ANC-KIX on 1/3/13 which is an unusual routing if it was going into mods so I didn't put it on my list yet, but if it doesn't reappear in the next week or so it probably is in mods.


User currently offlinehigherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 26042 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 3):
Other aircraft presumed to be in mods:
172 (Last seen at NRT 12/27/12)
190 (Last seen at NRT 12/23/12)

1708 flew ANC-KIX on 1/3/13 which is an unusual routing if it was going into mods so I didn't put it on my list yet, but if it doesn't reappear in the next week or so it probably is in mods.

Ships 1708 and 172 in Paya Lebar for mods. Ship 190 in Hong Kong.


User currently offlinegoomba From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25976 times:

Forgive me for not knowing all of the ship numbers, but what about the former Gulf Air 767's? When are these to be completed fully? I'm on one 11 days from now - KATL to EIDW and apparently my aircraft only has big screen entertainment, (nothing in the seat backs at all). Or am I mistaken? Will my flight have the new in flight entertainment system in place? The flight is DL176 - January 21st.

User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25923 times:
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Quoting goomba (Reply 5):

Forgive me for not knowing all of the ship numbers, but what about the former Gulf Air 767's? When are these to be completed fully? I'm on one 11 days from now - KATL to EIDW and apparently my aircraft only has big screen entertainment, (nothing in the seat backs at all). Or am I mistaken? Will my flight have the new in flight entertainment system in place? The flight is DL176 - January 21st.

Well according to ecrew, you're on a 7ER, which usually means its a 76U(a non-reconfigured aircraft), but the aircraft I had scheduled coming home from CDG the other day was supposed to be a 7ER which turned out to be a 76L(ship 185). We took a delay becus of a shortage of O2 bottles required for high-terrain ops and had to be installed by tech-ops



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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25917 times:
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Ship 1701 (the Habitat plane) may also have just entered mods as well.

So the current ships in mods are:

#172 - N172DN - will be a 76L
#190 - N190DN - will be a 76Z
#197 - N197DN - will be a 76Z
#1604 - N1604R - will be a 76L
#1708 - N178DZ - will be a 76L

and maybe #1701 - N171DZ - will be a 76L

I don't believe any of the 76G (Gulf planes) have started mods yet; ship 1521 (N394DL) I heard was in for maintenance, not mods.


User currently offlineUGA777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25886 times:

I'm glad they seem to be doing the mods at a rapid pace. It is a HUGE improvement over the current layout. I just wish they would put AVOD in the A319/A320(those that are not approaching retirement) and the MD-90/738(entire) fleet.

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 25500 times:

The latest ship #197 (N197DN) has been modded and is operating DL618 today, Jan 16th, from NRT-SFO.

User currently offlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 25323 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 7):

Ship 1701 (the Habitat plane) may also have just entered mods as well.

So the current ships in mods are:

#172 - N172DN - will be a 76L
#190 - N190DN - will be a 76Z
#197 - N197DN - will be a 76Z
#1604 - N1604R - will be a 76L
#1708 - N178DZ - will be a 76L

and maybe #1701 - N171DZ - will be a 76L
Quoting audidudi (Reply 9):
The latest ship #197 (N197DN) has been modded and is operating DL618 today, Jan 16th, from NRT-SFO.

76G C30W38Y140
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1601-3, 1604*, 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1604*, 1605-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)

Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.

Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)

As previously noted, please correct if anything is wrong...
-There may be others in for mod that we're not privy to
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *

[Edited 2013-01-16 10:31:21]

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 25252 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 10):

You have ship #1604 listed twice!


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 25219 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 10):
76G C30W38Y140

As was stated in reply 2 and on the previous thread, the new 76G will have the same exact seat/class count as the new 76Z. Furthermore the 76G ship type will go away once all mods are done, leaving 76Z as the sole high capacity ship type.

This is how the list should look like:

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-3, 1604*, 1605-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)

Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.

Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 25192 times:

How long does it take to modify each aircraft? Looks like a lot of work. I've flown the new updated versions and they are 100x better than the old versions...which some are looking decidely raggy these days  

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 25163 times:
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Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
How long does it take to modify each aircraft?

Usually around six weeks purely for the mods. A few have taken longer as they also had other maintenance work done or had winglets added...


User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 25163 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
How long does it take to modify each aircraft? Looks like a lot of work. I've flown the new updated versions and they are 100x better than the old versions...which some are looking decidely raggy these days

I second this, flew the reconfigured N1200K in BizElite right after Thanksgiving JFK-ATL and the flight was a dream, I truly did not want to get off the airplane when we landed! These birds can not be modded soon enough!


User currently offlineBKflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 25138 times:

In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 25103 times:

Quoting BKflyguy (Reply 16):
In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

I remember reading the same, but it's interesting that only 3 76Z's have been completed out of 20 aircraft. I wonder how all of these ships will be ready for Summer 2013 flying, especially since DL has expressed the desire to run the 76Z on transcon as well as AsiaPac runs with its lighter J cabin.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 797 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 25057 times:

Quoting MaddogJT8D (Reply 17):
I remember reading the same, but it's interesting that only 3 76Z's have been completed out of 20 aircraft. I wonder how all of these ships will be ready for Summer 2013 flying, especially since DL has expressed the desire to run the 76Z on transcon as well as AsiaPac runs with its lighter J cabin.

It's a tall order but maybe doable.

As of now 3 76Zs have been completed (191, 197 and 199), and 2 more are currently in mods (if we consider that N194DN went in for mods to replace N197DN in the conversion line) So maybe by summer there should be enough to have a few for transcon service and moving through LAX and HNL to do FUK and NGO runs. As per DL.com, NRT-SFO and NRT-PDX should also be using the 76Z by March.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 25036 times:
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Quoting SR117 (Reply 18):
So maybe by summer there should be enough to have a few for transcon service and moving through LAX and HNL to do FUK and NGO runs. As per DL.com, NRT-SFO and NRT-PDX should also be using the 76Z by March.

Right now, the summer schedule shows the 76Z on:

JFK-LAX (4x daily, but probably requiring about 3 frames)
JFK-DUB (daily)
JFK-PRG (daily)
JFK-CPH (6x weekly)
HNL-NRT (daily)
HNL-NGO (daily)
HNL-FUK (daily)
SFO-NRT (daily)
PDX-NRT (daily)
NRT-PVG (daily)
NRT-PEK (daily)
SEA-HND (daily)

That would be about 14 frames required.

Quoting BKflyguy (Reply 16):
In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

Based on the schedule he posted, there would be 42 done by June, with the remaining 16 still in the 76U old config. The remaining 16 would start to go into mods again starting in September.
There are currently 22 completed as of today.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 797 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 25012 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 19):
SEA-HND (daily)

I was looking at schedules and couldn't find it listed yet. Any news on when the first flight will operate?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 24981 times:
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Quoting SR117 (Reply 20):
I was looking at schedules and couldn't find it listed yet. Any news on when the first flight will operate?

Not published yet...probably because I don't think DOT has given the final approval yet?


User currently offlinecslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 24814 times:

So it appears that the new 76Z configuration will be deployed primarily in the transpacific and also to weaker transatlantic markets in addition to premium transcontinental markets. But what I continue to find is that the 76Z configuration with J-class occupying 11.5% of the cabin still burdens DL with a Business Elite cabin that remains too big for many beach markets where DL plans to send the 76Z.


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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 24788 times:

Quoting cslusarc (Reply 22):
But what I continue to find is that the 76Z configuration with J-class occupying 11.5% of the cabin still burdens DL with a Business Elite cabin that remains too big for many beach markets where DL plans to send the 76Z.

It's better than what they have now, which is 30+ Business Elite seats. Plus on the six door 76G (which was supposed to be the only 76Z variant before they decided to convert additional 76Us to this configuraiton as well), J-class ends at 2R/2L. If Delta wanted additional coach seats they would have to put in a row or two and create a mini-cabin ahead of 2R/2L.

[Edited 2013-01-16 21:12:44]

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 24774 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 23):
It's better than what they have now, which is 30+ Business Elite seats. Plus on the six door 76G (which was supposed to be the only 76Z variant before they decided to convert additional 76Us to this configuraiton as weel), J-class ends at 2R/2L. If Delta wanted additional coach seats they would have to put in a row or two and create a mini-cabin ahead of 2R/2L

From what I heard, 2L boarding on the 76G is not very common unlike the 764; most of the time the 76G is boarded from 1L. Not sure if it would be much of an issue having a Y cabin forward of the 2L/2R doors. The 764s actually did when they were in domestic configuration, and were still usually boarded from 2L wherever possible.



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25 Post contains links n515cr : 1604 is back in revenue service: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1604R. I have updated the list below and corrected the double-counting. 76G C26W2
26 panamair : Ship 1521 (N394DL) was not in for mods; it was in for other maintenance and is now back in service with the old configuration. None of the 76Gs have
27 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
28 rwy04lga : Sorry if I missed it....will the overhead bins be replaced as well?
29 Post contains links akelley728 : Yes! http://blog.delta.com/2011/08/05/del...67-300er-fleet-getting-a-new-look/
30 Post contains links n515cr : Yep, basically the same as the 764. It's like a brand new airplane on the inside. I've only had the chance to fly on one thus far, but they've done a
31 panamair : The lavs are really nice and spacious (at least up in Business) too - automatic faucets, color lighting...and they are now in the front of the J cabi
32 panamair : Ship 190 is now done and flying NRT-SFO-ATL today. Ship 198 is in mods (went in a few days ago). Looks like ship 189 may be the next one to go in to
33 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
34 Post contains images Birdwatching : I have an upcoming flight on a 76L (STR-ATL on Feb 8). On my booking, USB ports in economy are listed under the amenities. Does that mean I'm on a mod
35 akelley728 : It says fully flat beds as well. Looks like you're on a modded ship!
36 Post contains links n515cr : Ship 172 (N172DN) is now out of mod: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N172DN 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501
37 audidudi : Ship #189 (N189DN) may be the next to go into mods, if it hasn't already. It last flew from GUM-NRT on Jan 30th.
38 panamair : It went in for mods when N1604R went back into service. Ship 188 (N188DN) - to be a 76Z - has now gone to Paya Lebar for mods (replacing ship 172 whi
39 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
40 Post contains links n515cr : Ship 1708 (N178DZ) is complete and back in service: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N178DZ
41 Post contains images SR117 : N199DN also seems to have finally come out from the wifi mods, sure hope the rest of the birds don't take 2 months each
42 panamair : And looks like the next one in for mods is ship 193 (N193DN) currently on its way from SFO to NRT. This will be another 76Z.
43 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
44 Post contains links audidudi : One update and one question. Ship #1701 (N171DZ) has been completed and is flying from QPG-NRT today and NRT-SFO tomorrow. http://flightaware.com/live
45 toobz : I was under the impression that they are done separate. But somebody more in the know can confirm either way.
46 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
47 Post contains links and images ETinCaribe : Great job Delta on this. 767, my favorite plane is getting a new life there... The interior looks good. Saw similar things being done at Austrian in a
48 Post contains links audidudi : Next to go into mods is ship #184 (N184DN). FlightAware sometimes deletes the flights to and from QPG, so if it no longer shows this ship flying as DL
49 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
50 Post contains links n515cr : N194DN is out of mod: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N194DN 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 air
51 Post contains links n515cr : Looks like N173DZ is the next in (landed at NRT on Feb 23): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N173DZ
52 Post contains links audidudi : Ship 198 (N198DN) is complete and back in service. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N198DN[Edited 2013-03-08 23:49:24]
53 ushermittwoch : I'm guessing that the DUS route will be the one of the last ones to see the new interiors, huh.
54 toobz : And PDX lol ...one day we will get them!
55 panamair : ATL-DUS is currently being operated with the newly-refurbished 767s. However, it's scheduled to go back to the old interior planes with the summer sc
56 Post contains images ushermittwoch : Not sure, probably because they can do whatever they want on that route and still get good loads. The dozens of times I have taken it, it was almost
57 MIflyer12 : DL 617, PDX-NRT, shows a 76G with lie-flats today. Delta has claimed that all of its TPAC flights will have lie-flats this year (by June , IIRC).
58 akelley728 : There are no 76Gs with lie-flats at the moment. Either it's a website glitch or the typical 76G got substituted with something else.
59 burnsie28 : 1701 is flying back and forth between the US and Europe currently This route has been flying with flat bed since November.
60 audidudi : Ship 1701 came out of mods on Feb 19th and it's first flight was NRT-SFO on Feb 20th.
61 Post contains images panamair : I just flew 1701 from CDG to JFK today
62 SELMER40 : I just looked at Delta.com for a few days PDX-NRT and couldn't find a configuation code. The seat map showed front cabin rows 1-7 and second cabin row
63 Post contains links audidudi : DL 209 from SFO-NRT was operated yesterday, March 9th, by ship #1504 (N154DL), which is a 76G version. Could this be the first 76G to go into mods? On
64 Post contains links audidudi : Ship 189 (N189DN) has been completed and is back in service. That makes two in two days! http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N189DN.
65 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Busine
66 Post contains links n515cr : Ship 188 is scheduled to fly NRT-SFO-ATL on March 13: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N188DN Ship 187 appears to have gone in for mod: http://fligh
67 Post contains links n515cr : Posing this to those in the know...N154DL, a 76G appears to have gone in for mods, making it the first 76G. Is this true, or am I speculating incorrec
68 FL787 : That's correct, 1504 is the first 76G to be converted to 76Z.
69 n515cr : Alrighty then. Thanks for confirming. 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mo
70 globalflyer : I am just curious and maybe it has been posted before but what exactly do the codes mean? I know that 76G means they came from Gulf Air. But what abou
71 cokepopper : I would be curious who would know. As a DL f/A, I have no idea where/how they come up with these codes. Z=you get more zzzzz's with the lay flat? lol
72 Prost : They replaced a map on the Delta Dart Board with the alphabet.
73 Post contains images sankaps : I just flew one of the refurbished 763s JFK-LHR last week, and the economy AVOD PTVs were different (better, see below) than the photo shown in the b
74 DL_Mech : The blog photo is of a 76T, which used refurbished seats pulled from domestic 767s that were in storage. The newer modded planes are getting a newer
75 Post contains images flyabr : Any chance ATL-DUB will feature an updated 767 by the end of September??
76 jetjack74 : Initially, I was told in AQ, IQ, CQ, DQ whatever, that the letter suffixes were notations for what kind IFE equipment were onboard. Some which make s
77 SR117 : N195DN is going to Singapore for mods today. Good to see those 76Z's churning out quickly. Looks like transpacific flights will soon mostly feature fl
78 nwa757boy : All 747s have lie flat beds in BE
79 Prost : But until June, the NRT flight will soldier on with the A330.
80 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143
81 FlyASAGuy2005 : Not quite.. N came about during the merger to differentiate "N"orthwest 757s from PMDL 757s with CRTs. 75/6U had to do with the winglet program for g
82 SELMER40 : Not quite quite.... Northwest had both the N and M 757s. The Ns were the 5500s no over wing exits. The Ms were the 5600s with over wing exits. I belie
83 Post contains images airtechy : What happens to all the "old" IFE stuff that is removed from the planes for these upgrades? Do the new equipment providers offer the equivalent of a "
84 FlyASAGuy2005 : Ahhh didn't know that so NW always called their 75s Ns. When they first started showing up in Atlanta they carried an odd code but don't remember wha
85 SELMER40 : Back on the headline, with the first 76G going into mod, I blieve it will come out as a 76G with different seating. Dealing with extra doors and one l
86 1337Delta764 : Nope, according to a post by Chris Babb on FT, they will be part of the 76Z fleet. There will be a slight difference in pitch in the exit rows, howev
87 Post contains links audidudi : Ship #193 (N193DN) has completed mods and is flying QPG-NRT on March 23rd. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N193DN
88 FlyASAGuy2005 : You'd loose that bet. All 76Gs are being converted to Zs. Internally, you won't be able to tell the difference except of course for the big exit door
89 n7371f : I am not aware of any internal designation of 'N' and 'M' within Northwest for the 757's. The current 'N' was the 5500 (ships 5501 to 5535) and the '
90 1337Delta764 : Did the PSUs have the adjustable LED reading lights? Also, did it get the new signage that replaced the illuminated No Smoking signs with illuminated
91 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143
92 panamair : And it looks like ship 1702 (N172DZ) has now gone in for mods (to QPG), replacing 193. N172DZ will be a 76L
93 zmp0psa : Does anyone have a list of routes currently operated with any version of the refurbished 767s? I believe I read a while back that all TPac 767 flights
94 zmp0psa : Using flightaware and the registration numbers of ships with completed mods, I put together this list. Using this method I'm sure I missed quite a few
95 PIEAvantiP180 : Just a minor correction but DL does not serve BOS-FRA.
96 zmp0psa : I really should have noticed that when I was typing. It appears N189DN flew BOS-HHN as a charter and when I saw Frankfurt I I wrote it down. Thanks!
97 audidudi : You can add NRT-SFO to the list.
98 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143
99 Post contains links audidudi : Ship #1703 (N173DZ) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 1st. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N173DZ
100 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143
101 Post contains links audidudi : Ship #184 (N184DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 3rd. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N184DN
102 panamair : Looks like ships 196 and 192 (both to be 76Zs) may be the next ones going in (to replace 1703 and 184)
103 n515cr : That would complete the original 76Zs. 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in M
104 audidudi : As we can see from the last post, 34/58 B763ERs have completed mods and a further 6 are in mods. As has been previously reported a total of 43/58 are
105 Post contains links audidudi : Ship #187 (N187DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 17th. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N187DN
106 Post contains links audidudi : It looks like ship #186 (N186DN) is the next to go in to mods. It arrives in NRT on April 18th operating DL617 SFO-NRT. http://flightaware.com/live/fl
107 n515cr : 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143
108 Post contains links n515cr : N195DN (was in QPG for mods) appears to be on the move: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N195DN 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew re
109 Post contains links audidudi : According to FlightAware, ship #1707 has not flown since arriving in ATL on April 21st. Does anyone know if this has gone to QPG to be modded? http://
110 FlyASAGuy2005 : Nope. Still in Atlanta for MTC.
111 audidudi : Are any more birds going to QPG to be modded before June, as it was originally reported that 43/58 would be modded by June, and so far 41/58 have bee
112 FlyASAGuy2005 : That I can't tell you because I don't know. I'm not involved nor is my department privy to that sort off 'forward' information. You'd be surprised wh
113 Post contains links n515cr : N172DZ is on the move: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N172DZ N176DZ flew SFO-NRT yesterday, likely to continuing on to QPG: http://flightaware.com
114 Post contains links n515cr : N192DN scheduled out of QPG May 6: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N192DN N196DN - the last 76Z (pre-mod) - likely to be out shortly as it went in
115 audidudi : Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be mod
116 cv880 : Ship #1504 is N154DL and is ex-GulfAir, and is still showing the old configuration.
117 1337Delta764 : I heard the 76Gs are being retrofitted with a gasper vent system, and perhaps DL is waiting on FAA approval.
118 FlyASAGuy2005 : First one out in about 2 weeks..
119 n515cr : Looks to be the next one in. That should wrap up new entries for the summer. 76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-
120 celestar345 : It's nearing finish - bearing in mind it is in not only for the interior mod, but also a heavy maintenance check and flight system upgrade. All proto
121 1337Delta764 : I presume you mean ship #1504. Ship #1704 is N174DZ.
122 n515cr : The last 76Z, N196DN is now out and scheduled to fly NRT-SFO on 11May. That completes the pre-mod 76Zs. 76G C26W29Y171 (76Z after mod - *25 Business f
123 SELMER40 : Somehow N154DL has gotten to ATL undected. It is scheduled to operate flight 1166 (sub for a 757) from ATL to DTW this afternoon. The booking seat ma
124 Post contains links audidudi : Ditto for ship #186 (N186DN). It has also managed to get to ATL undetected as can be seen here on FlightAware. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N186
125 n515cr : That leaves 2 in QPG for mod...due out in June. 76G C26W29Y171 (76Z after mod - *25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 ai
126 TR1 : Thanks for the updates guys....... Does anyone know whether additional aircraft will be converted to the 76Z configuration? It might make more routes
127 nwa757boy : Same here...haha...hopefully soon there will be more standardization of the fleets!
128 n515cr : Yes, there are 6 more 76Gs (ex-Gulf Air aircraft) that will become 76Zs after conversion.
129 audidudi : Ship #1706 (N176DZ) has not only finished mods, but has already flown from ATL-MXP, having flown from QPG-ATL undetected, similar to the last two to b
130 Prost : I wonder how they determine which routes get the premodified aircraft?
131 klkla : That's interesting. Even though this is slightly off topic do you find a difference in customer attitudes among customers in the old configuration co
132 Alnicocunife : Where is ship 173? I think it is a bone yard? Is it going to be flown again and if it is in what config?
133 n515cr : N176DZ is back in the system leaving just N174DZ in QPG for mods.
134 burnsie28 : The 32R came from NW, those aircraft are the ones equipped with rafts.
135 TR1 : Definitely. With all the promotion DL does for the lie-flat seats, BusinessElite customers are disappointed when they are on the old configuration. E
136 jetstream3399 : Does anyone know if the few 76Z's that are now operating JFK-LAX have WiFi? It seems crazy to me that Delta would deploy aircraft without it on such a
137 Post contains links Prost : DL is installing wifi on their international fleet this year, so if these aircraft don't have it now, they will by 2015. But agreed, dayligh flights c
138 TR1 : Some of them do at least. I worked JFK-LAX two days ago on ship 196 which had wi-fi.
139 SR117 : Funny thing, I flew that bird DUB-JFK two days ago before it flew the JFK-LAX leg : ) I did notice the gogo wifi signal when boarding in Dublin and f
140 nwa757boy : Ship 189 has Wifi too
141 n471wn : No one seems to know and Delta employees have not provided an answer but for now it sadly sits in the desert while its older sisters fly---go figure
142 audidudi : I was taxiing for take off at JFK this evening and saw ship #189 (N189DN) which completed mods early March, and I was astonished to see it still doesn
143 audidudi : It's also possible that three other ships, #188, #1504 and #1706 don't have winglets either, despite being modded; also ships #190, and #1708 don't ha
144 MIflyer12 : A management decision to install winglets would be based on financial analysis with a number of assumptions, including fuel price and longevity of air
145 FlyASAGuy2005 : Each a/c has a path for mods. The winglet and interior mods are independent programs. Nothing has changed. All ERs will get winglets it's just a ques
146 n515cr : Are they still planning to do the winglet mods in GSO, or are those to be done in ATL?
147 Deltal1011man : I don't think we have the room in ATL. Basically going to have MRO 767s getting winglets two at a time till at least november. They are trying to get
148 e7plnr : Ships 180 and 181 will be converted to the 76Z configuration starting in September. This will extend the 76Z fleet to 22 a/c (includes 76G->76Z).
149 awacsooner : The wife and daughter just got off of the DUS-ATL flight...still overhead tv's and most of them weren't working properly. Pretty sad that a carrier wi
150 Post contains images Deltal1011man : Yeah i mean, dang American and United have full lie-flats fleet wide and they upgraded the fleet in an overnight hangar visit. In the real world have
151 Alnicocunife : I think Delta is replacing the entire cabin. I flew to AMS a few months ago and the Business Elite was completely changed. It had the largest lavator
152 awacsooner : Talking about AVOD and the like here...
153 cv880 : 43 of 58 DL 767-300ER's have AVOD in economy vs ZERO on AA and a far fewer number on UA(if any). The remaining 15 will have AVOD by year end. The DUS
154 DL_Mech : I can't think of another airline willing to spend millions on interior upgrades and winglets on airplanes with 105,000+ flight hours on them.
155 audidudi : There have been multiple postings of the total number of aircraft being modded as 58, with 42 having been completed already, and #43, ship #1704, due
156 Deltal1011man : You would be right. The only thing that may not be getting replaced is the lav, but even they are, IIRC, getting a refurbishing. Ok....fine. Take out
157 Post contains links cv880 : Ship N174DZ flight plan filed for WSAP-RJAA departing Paya Lebar today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9932
158 n515cr : Looks like there are 15 w/o winglets: 76G N1501P N152DL N153DL N154DL N155DL N156DL N394DL 76L N171DN N183DN N184DN N176DZ N178DZ 76Z N188DN N189DN N
159 Post contains links and images audidudi : I found a photo here of one of the aircraft on your list; so maybe there are 14! View Large View MediumPhoto © John Richard Thomson
160 n515cr : Cool, thanks for catching that!
161 Post contains links and images audidudi : There is one more aircraft that was purchased earlier this year and has been parked at MZJ ever since. Does anyone know what is happening to this bird
162 cokepopper : From what I understand this a/c is just for parts.... also, this 763 doors doesn't even match the config of present 763 a/c. It would be like a hybri
163 n7371f : N764RD is ex Ryan Intl & is strictly to be a parts plane.
164 akelley728 : Whatever happened to the ex GOL 767s that Delta took over the leases for? I believe they were PR-VAO AND PR-VAC. Are they still stored at GYR?
165 Post contains links Alnicocunife : It looks like ship 173 was painted? The fuselage at least. Why would they do that if it was not coming back into service? http://www.airliners.net/ph
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