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DL B763ER Interior Mods Schedule Part 2  
User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 26594 times:

Since the previous thread got archived, I thought I would start a Part 2 and copy the last current info and post relevant updates.

Previous Thread:
DL B763ER Interior Mods Schedule? (by audidudi Nov 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Looks like ship 1603 came out of mods and flew NRT-SFO today:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603

76G C30W38Y140
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1601-3, 1604*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1605-6, 1705, 1708* = 14/31 (45.2%)


Looks like 1604 and 1708 went into mods over the past few weeks according to flightaware, can anyone confirm?

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 191, 197*, 199 = 3/13 (23.1%)


Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks, 191 is back to active flying in the new config.

Total Complete: 25/58 (43.1%)

As previously noted...
-There may be others in for mod that I'm not privy to
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
Please correct if anything is wrong!

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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3007 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 26488 times:

Sorry - can you please remind me what exactly is being done to the 763s? Is it only international a/c that are being updated?

[Edited 2013-01-09 10:57:09]


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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26428 times:

Quoting MaddogJT8D (Thread starter):
76G C30W38Y140

This is incorrect - as was stated on the previous thread the new 76G will have the same exact seat counts as the new 76Z. Furthermore the 76G ship type will go away once all mods are done, leaving 76Z as the sole high capacity ship type.

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 1):
Sorry - can you please remind me what exactly is being done to the 763s? Is it only international a/c that are being updated?

Look here for what is being done to the international 767 fleet:

Delta’s 767-300ER Fleet Getting a New Look


User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 26066 times:
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Other aircraft presumed to be in mods:
172 (Last seen at NRT 12/27/12)
190 (Last seen at NRT 12/23/12)

1708 flew ANC-KIX on 1/3/13 which is an unusual routing if it was going into mods so I didn't put it on my list yet, but if it doesn't reappear in the next week or so it probably is in mods.


User currently offlinehigherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 25893 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 3):
Other aircraft presumed to be in mods:
172 (Last seen at NRT 12/27/12)
190 (Last seen at NRT 12/23/12)

1708 flew ANC-KIX on 1/3/13 which is an unusual routing if it was going into mods so I didn't put it on my list yet, but if it doesn't reappear in the next week or so it probably is in mods.

Ships 1708 and 172 in Paya Lebar for mods. Ship 190 in Hong Kong.


User currently offlinegoomba From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 25827 times:

Forgive me for not knowing all of the ship numbers, but what about the former Gulf Air 767's? When are these to be completed fully? I'm on one 11 days from now - KATL to EIDW and apparently my aircraft only has big screen entertainment, (nothing in the seat backs at all). Or am I mistaken? Will my flight have the new in flight entertainment system in place? The flight is DL176 - January 21st.

User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 25774 times:
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Quoting goomba (Reply 5):

Forgive me for not knowing all of the ship numbers, but what about the former Gulf Air 767's? When are these to be completed fully? I'm on one 11 days from now - KATL to EIDW and apparently my aircraft only has big screen entertainment, (nothing in the seat backs at all). Or am I mistaken? Will my flight have the new in flight entertainment system in place? The flight is DL176 - January 21st.

Well according to ecrew, you're on a 7ER, which usually means its a 76U(a non-reconfigured aircraft), but the aircraft I had scheduled coming home from CDG the other day was supposed to be a 7ER which turned out to be a 76L(ship 185). We took a delay becus of a shortage of O2 bottles required for high-terrain ops and had to be installed by tech-ops



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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 25768 times:
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Ship 1701 (the Habitat plane) may also have just entered mods as well.

So the current ships in mods are:

#172 - N172DN - will be a 76L
#190 - N190DN - will be a 76Z
#197 - N197DN - will be a 76Z
#1604 - N1604R - will be a 76L
#1708 - N178DZ - will be a 76L

and maybe #1701 - N171DZ - will be a 76L

I don't believe any of the 76G (Gulf planes) have started mods yet; ship 1521 (N394DL) I heard was in for maintenance, not mods.


User currently offlineUGA777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 25737 times:

I'm glad they seem to be doing the mods at a rapid pace. It is a HUGE improvement over the current layout. I just wish they would put AVOD in the A319/A320(those that are not approaching retirement) and the MD-90/738(entire) fleet.

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 25351 times:

The latest ship #197 (N197DN) has been modded and is operating DL618 today, Jan 16th, from NRT-SFO.

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 25174 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 7):

Ship 1701 (the Habitat plane) may also have just entered mods as well.

So the current ships in mods are:

#172 - N172DN - will be a 76L
#190 - N190DN - will be a 76Z
#197 - N197DN - will be a 76Z
#1604 - N1604R - will be a 76L
#1708 - N178DZ - will be a 76L

and maybe #1701 - N171DZ - will be a 76L
Quoting audidudi (Reply 9):
The latest ship #197 (N197DN) has been modded and is operating DL618 today, Jan 16th, from NRT-SFO.

76G C30W38Y140
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1601-3, 1604*, 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1604*, 1605-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)

Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.

Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)

As previously noted, please correct if anything is wrong...
-There may be others in for mod that we're not privy to
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *

[Edited 2013-01-16 10:31:21]

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 25103 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 10):

You have ship #1604 listed twice!


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 25070 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 10):
76G C30W38Y140

As was stated in reply 2 and on the previous thread, the new 76G will have the same exact seat/class count as the new 76Z. Furthermore the 76G ship type will go away once all mods are done, leaving 76Z as the sole high capacity ship type.

This is how the list should look like:

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-3, 1604*, 1605-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)

Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.

Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 25043 times:

How long does it take to modify each aircraft? Looks like a lot of work. I've flown the new updated versions and they are 100x better than the old versions...which some are looking decidely raggy these days  

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 25014 times:
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Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
How long does it take to modify each aircraft?

Usually around six weeks purely for the mods. A few have taken longer as they also had other maintenance work done or had winglets added...


User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 25014 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 13):
How long does it take to modify each aircraft? Looks like a lot of work. I've flown the new updated versions and they are 100x better than the old versions...which some are looking decidely raggy these days

I second this, flew the reconfigured N1200K in BizElite right after Thanksgiving JFK-ATL and the flight was a dream, I truly did not want to get off the airplane when we landed! These birds can not be modded soon enough!


User currently offlineBKflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 24989 times:

In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 24954 times:

Quoting BKflyguy (Reply 16):
In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

I remember reading the same, but it's interesting that only 3 76Z's have been completed out of 20 aircraft. I wonder how all of these ships will be ready for Summer 2013 flying, especially since DL has expressed the desire to run the 76Z on transcon as well as AsiaPac runs with its lighter J cabin.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 24908 times:

Quoting MaddogJT8D (Reply 17):
I remember reading the same, but it's interesting that only 3 76Z's have been completed out of 20 aircraft. I wonder how all of these ships will be ready for Summer 2013 flying, especially since DL has expressed the desire to run the 76Z on transcon as well as AsiaPac runs with its lighter J cabin.

It's a tall order but maybe doable.

As of now 3 76Zs have been completed (191, 197 and 199), and 2 more are currently in mods (if we consider that N194DN went in for mods to replace N197DN in the conversion line) So maybe by summer there should be enough to have a few for transcon service and moving through LAX and HNL to do FUK and NGO runs. As per DL.com, NRT-SFO and NRT-PDX should also be using the 76Z by March.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 24887 times:
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Quoting SR117 (Reply 18):
So maybe by summer there should be enough to have a few for transcon service and moving through LAX and HNL to do FUK and NGO runs. As per DL.com, NRT-SFO and NRT-PDX should also be using the 76Z by March.

Right now, the summer schedule shows the 76Z on:

JFK-LAX (4x daily, but probably requiring about 3 frames)
JFK-DUB (daily)
JFK-PRG (daily)
JFK-CPH (6x weekly)
HNL-NRT (daily)
HNL-NGO (daily)
HNL-FUK (daily)
SFO-NRT (daily)
PDX-NRT (daily)
NRT-PVG (daily)
NRT-PEK (daily)
SEA-HND (daily)

That would be about 14 frames required.

Quoting BKflyguy (Reply 16):
In a post on Flyer Talk, Chris Babb of Delta stated that they would be rolling out at a pace of 1 ship per week until the summer season gets going. That is an impressive schedule.

Based on the schedule he posted, there would be 42 done by June, with the remaining 16 still in the 76U old config. The remaining 16 would start to go into mods again starting in September.
There are currently 22 completed as of today.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 24863 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 19):
SEA-HND (daily)

I was looking at schedules and couldn't find it listed yet. Any news on when the first flight will operate?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 24832 times:
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Quoting SR117 (Reply 20):
I was looking at schedules and couldn't find it listed yet. Any news on when the first flight will operate?

Not published yet...probably because I don't think DOT has given the final approval yet?


User currently offlinecslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 24665 times:

So it appears that the new 76Z configuration will be deployed primarily in the transpacific and also to weaker transatlantic markets in addition to premium transcontinental markets. But what I continue to find is that the 76Z configuration with J-class occupying 11.5% of the cabin still burdens DL with a Business Elite cabin that remains too big for many beach markets where DL plans to send the 76Z.


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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 24639 times:

Quoting cslusarc (Reply 22):
But what I continue to find is that the 76Z configuration with J-class occupying 11.5% of the cabin still burdens DL with a Business Elite cabin that remains too big for many beach markets where DL plans to send the 76Z.

It's better than what they have now, which is 30+ Business Elite seats. Plus on the six door 76G (which was supposed to be the only 76Z variant before they decided to convert additional 76Us to this configuraiton as well), J-class ends at 2R/2L. If Delta wanted additional coach seats they would have to put in a row or two and create a mini-cabin ahead of 2R/2L.

[Edited 2013-01-16 21:12:44]

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 24625 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 23):
It's better than what they have now, which is 30+ Business Elite seats. Plus on the six door 76G (which was supposed to be the only 76Z variant before they decided to convert additional 76Us to this configuraiton as weel), J-class ends at 2R/2L. If Delta wanted additional coach seats they would have to put in a row or two and create a mini-cabin ahead of 2R/2L

From what I heard, 2L boarding on the 76G is not very common unlike the 764; most of the time the 76G is boarded from 1L. Not sure if it would be much of an issue having a Y cabin forward of the 2L/2R doors. The 764s actually did when they were in domestic configuration, and were still usually boarded from 2L wherever possible.



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User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24613 times:

1604 is back in revenue service: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1604R. I have updated the list below and corrected the double-counting.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)


Total Complete/In mod: 28/58 (48.3%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24595 times:
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Quoting n515cr (Reply 25):
76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%)

Ship 1521 (N394DL) was not in for mods; it was in for other maintenance and is now back in service with the old configuration. None of the 76Gs have started mods yet.

Quoting n515cr (Reply 25):
76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 197, 199 = 4/13 (30.8%)

Add ship 194 to the list of "in Mod" for the 76Z


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 24978 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 26):
Ship 1521 (N394DL) was not in for mods; it was in for other maintenance and is now back in service with the old configuration. None of the 76Gs have started mods yet.
Quoting panamair (Reply 26):
Add ship 194 to the list of "in Mod" for the 76Z

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 194*, 197, 199 = 5/13 (38.5%)


Total Complete/In mod: 28/58 (48.3%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods for several weeks.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 24840 times:

Sorry if I missed it....will the overhead bins be replaced as well?


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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 29, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 24846 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 28):
Sorry if I missed it....will the overhead bins be replaced as well?

Yes!

http://blog.delta.com/2011/08/05/del...67-300er-fleet-getting-a-new-look/


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 24840 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 28):
Sorry if I missed it....will the overhead bins be replaced as well?

Yep, basically the same as the 764. It's like a brand new airplane on the inside. I've only had the chance to fly on one thus far, but they've done a really nice job, IMO. Pics below.

http://blog.delta.com/2011/08/05/del...67-300er-fleet-getting-a-new-look/


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 31, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 24628 times:
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Quoting n515cr (Reply 30):
It's like a brand new airplane on the inside.

The lavs are really nice and spacious (at least up in Business) too - automatic faucets, color lighting...and they are now in the front of the J cabin (instead of in the back, like on the 764). And the IFE selection has been significantly enhanced as well - with over 300+ movies (same as on the 74S now).

Quoting n515cr (Reply 27):
76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 194*, 197, 199 = 5/13 (38.5%)

Looks like ship 198 may be the next one going in now that 1604 is back in service. 198 is flying ATL-SFO-NRT today....


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 32, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 24125 times:
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Quoting n515cr (Reply 27):
76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190*, 191, 194*, 197, 199 = 5/13 (38.5%)

Ship 190 is now done and flying NRT-SFO-ATL today. Ship 198 is in mods (went in a few days ago). Looks like ship 189 may be the next one to go in to replace 190.


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 24103 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 31):
Looks like ship 198 may be the next one going in now that 1604 is back in service. 198 is flying ATL-SFO-NRT today....
Quoting panamair (Reply 32):
Ship 190 is now done and flying NRT-SFO-ATL today. Ship 198 is in mods (went in a few days ago). Looks like ship 189 may be the next one to go in to replace 190.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172*, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190-91, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 6/13 (46.2%)


Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods since early December.


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3808 posts, RR: 51
Reply 34, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 23932 times:

I have an upcoming flight on a 76L (STR-ATL on Feb 8). On my booking, USB ports in economy are listed under the amenities. Does that mean I'm on a modded ship?

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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 35, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 23860 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 34):
I have an upcoming flight on a 76L (STR-ATL on Feb 8). On my booking, USB ports in economy are listed under the amenities. Does that mean I'm on a modded ship?

It says fully flat beds as well. Looks like you're on a modded ship!


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 23510 times:

Ship 172 (N172DN) is now out of mod: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N172DN

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 190-91, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 6/13 (46.2%)


Total Complete/In mod: 29/58 (50.0%)
-Aircraft that are either in mod or presumed to be in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods since early December.


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 23362 times:

Ship #189 (N189DN) may be the next to go into mods, if it hasn't already. It last flew from GUM-NRT on Jan 30th.

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 38, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 23050 times:
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Quoting audidudi (Reply 37):
Ship #189 (N189DN) may be the next to go into mods, if it hasn't already.

It went in for mods when N1604R went back into service.

Ship 188 (N188DN) - to be a 76Z - has now gone to Paya Lebar for mods (replacing ship 172 which just went back into service).

So, the in-progress ships are now:

N188DN - 76Z
N189DN - 76Z
N194DN - 76Z
N198DN - 76Z
N171DZ - 76L
N178DZ - 76L


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 22906 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 37):
Ship #189 (N189DN) may be the next to go into mods, if it hasn't already. It last flew from GUM-NRT on Jan 30th.
Quoting panamair (Reply 38):
It went in for mods when N1604R went back into service.

Ship 188 (N188DN) - to be a 76Z - has now gone to Paya Lebar for mods (replacing ship 172 which just went back into service).

So, the in-progress ships are now:

N188DN - 76Z
N189DN - 76Z
N194DN - 76Z
N198DN - 76Z
N171DZ - 76L
N178DZ - 76L

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708* = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 8/13 (61.5%)


Total Complete/In mod: 31/58 (53.4%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods since Dec 3.


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 22506 times:

Ship 1708 (N178DZ) is complete and back in service:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N178DZ

Quoting n515cr (Reply 39):
76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708 = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 8/13 (61.5%)


Total Complete or In mod: 31/58 (53.4%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *
-Note: 199 has been in DTW for Wifi mods since Dec 3.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 41, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 22541 times:

N199DN also seems to have finally come out from the wifi mods, sure hope the rest of the birds don't take 2 months each  

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 42, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 22491 times:
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And looks like the next one in for mods is ship 193 (N193DN) currently on its way from SFO to NRT. This will be another 76Z.

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 22254 times:

Quoting SR117 (Reply 41):
N199DN also seems to have finally come out from the wifi mods, sure hope the rest of the birds don't take 2 months each  
Quoting panamair (Reply 42):
And looks like the next one in for mods is ship 193 (N193DN) currently on its way from SFO to NRT. This will be another 76Z.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701*, 1705, 1708 = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91, 193*, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 9/13 (69.2%)


Total Complete or In mod: 32/58 (55.2%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21853 times:

One update and one question.

Ship #1701 (N171DZ) has been completed and is flying from QPG-NRT today and NRT-SFO tomorrow.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N171DZ.

Ship #190 (N190DN) completed mods in January but was photographed in February without winglets. Surely this would normally be done as the same time as the interior mods; at least ship #182 now has winglets after being modded, but were they installed at the same time? It seems strange that #190 is still flying without winglets and is flying long-haul flights.


User currently offlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21726 times:

I was under the impression that they are done separate. But somebody more in the know can confirm either way.

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 21509 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 44):
Ship #1701 (N171DZ) has been completed and is flying from QPG-NRT today and NRT-SFO tomorrow.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...71DZ.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3, 185, 1200-1201, 1601-6, 1701, 1705, 1708 = 16/31 (51.6%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91, 193*, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 9/13 (69.2%)

Total Complete or In mod: 32/58 (55.2%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21420 times:

Great job Delta on this. 767, my favorite plane is getting a new life there...

The interior looks good. Saw similar things being done at Austrian in a different thread here on a.net, as FYI:

767: http://www.red-blog.at/en/2013/02/ga...efit-of-the-boeing-767-in-shannon/
It would be nice to see a timeline photo slideshow for DL as well  

Curious to know if DL has stated how much these mods cost them and how long they intend to keep their modified planes for?


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 21019 times:

Next to go into mods is ship #184 (N184DN). FlightAware sometimes deletes the flights to and from QPG, so if it no longer shows this ship flying as DL 9978 from NRT-QPG on Feb 21st, then you now know why!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N184DN


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 20977 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 48):
Next to go into mods is ship #184 (N184DN). FlightAware sometimes deletes the flights to and from QPG, so if it no longer shows this ship flying as DL 9978 from NRT-QPG on Feb 21st, then you now know why!

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1705, 1708 = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91 [2], 193*, 194*, 197, 198*, 199 = 9/13 (69.2%)

Total Complete or In mod: 33/58 (56.9%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20673 times:

N194DN is out of mod: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N194DN

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1705, 1708 = 17/31 (54.8%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91 [2], 193*, 194, 197, 198*, 199 = 9/13 (69.2%)

Total Complete or In mod: 33/58 (56.9%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 20341 times:

Looks like N173DZ is the next in (landed at NRT on Feb 23): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N173DZ

Quoting n515cr (Reply 50):
76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189*, 190-91 [2], 193*, 194, 197, 198*, 199 = 9/13 (69.2%)

Total Complete or In mod: 34/58 (58.6%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 20026 times:

Ship 198 (N198DN) is complete and back in service.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N198DN

[Edited 2013-03-08 23:49:24]

User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2964 posts, RR: 16
Reply 53, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19999 times:

I'm guessing that the DUS route will be the one of the last ones to see the new interiors, huh.


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19974 times:

And PDX lol ...one day we will get them!

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 55, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20011 times:
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Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 53):
I'm guessing that the DUS route will be the one of the last ones to see the new interiors, huh.

ATL-DUS is currently being operated with the newly-refurbished 767s. However, it's scheduled to go back to the old interior planes with the summer schedule starting March 30...Don't ask me why the switch...


User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2964 posts, RR: 16
Reply 56, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 20002 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 55):
ATL-DUS is currently being operated with the newly-refurbished 767s. However, it's scheduled to go back to the old interior planes with the summer schedule starting March 30...Don't ask me why the switch...

Not sure, probably because they can do whatever they want on that route and still get good loads. The dozens of times I have taken it, it was almost always packed. In Y and J.
I might have to take that flight in May, since I am not getting reasonable prices on the one stops via AMS or CDG.  



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 19904 times:

Quoting toobz (Reply 54):
And PDX lol ...one day we will get them!

DL 617, PDX-NRT, shows a 76G with lie-flats today. Delta has claimed that all of its TPAC flights will have lie-flats this year (by June , IIRC).


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 58, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 19634 times:

Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 57):
DL 617, PDX-NRT, shows a 76G with lie-flats today.

There are no 76Gs with lie-flats at the moment. Either it's a website glitch or the typical 76G got substituted with something else.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 59, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19573 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 7):

Ship 1701 (the Habitat plane) may also have just entered mods as well.

1701 is flying back and forth between the US and Europe currently

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 35):
It says fully flat beds as well. Looks like you're on a modded ship!

This route has been flying with flat bed since November.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19482 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 59):

Ship 1701 came out of mods on Feb 19th and it's first flight was NRT-SFO on Feb 20th.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 61, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 19495 times:
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Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 59):
1701 is flying back and forth between the US and Europe currently

I just flew 1701 from CDG to JFK today  


User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 19336 times:

I just looked at Delta.com for a few days PDX-NRT and couldn't find a configuation code. The seat map showed front cabin rows 1-7 and second cabin rows 13-42 and two rows with over wing exits. The seat map page showed seating with these rows to be 26 flat-bed BE, 29 EC and 171 E and called the configution- 76H. A previous Delta press release called this seating- 76Z. I believe the 76H code to be incorrect.


Teaching this old dog a new trick
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19202 times:

DL 209 from SFO-NRT was operated yesterday, March 9th, by ship #1504 (N154DL), which is a 76G version. Could this be the first 76G to go into mods? Once in a while a 76G will operate ATL-SFO-ATL, but never operating a TPAC flight!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N154DL

[Edited 2013-03-10 00:41:09]

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 18922 times:

Ship 189 (N189DN) has been completed and is back in service. That makes two in two days!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N189DN.


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 18718 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 52):
Ship 198 (N198DN) is complete and back in service.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N198DN
Quoting audidudi (Reply 64):

Ship 189 (N189DN) has been completed and is back in service. That makes two in two days!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...89DN.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 188*, 189-91 [3], 193*, 194, 197-99 [3]= 9/13 (69.2%)

Total Complete or In mod: 34/58 (58.6%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18423 times:

Ship 188 is scheduled to fly NRT-SFO-ATL on March 13: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N188DN

Ship 187 appears to have gone in for mod: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N187DN


76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 0/7 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193*, 194, 197-99 [3]= 10/13 (76.9%)

Total Complete or In mod: 35/58 (60.3%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18019 times:

Posing this to those in the know...N154DL, a 76G appears to have gone in for mods, making it the first 76G. Is this true, or am I speculating incorrectly?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N154DL


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 12
Reply 68, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17937 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 67):

That's correct, 1504 is the first 76G to be converted to 76Z.



717,72S,732/3/4/5/G/8/9,744,752/3,763/4,772/3,D9S/5,M8/90,D10,319/20/21,332/3,388,CR2/7/9,EM2,ER4,E70/75/90,SF3,AR8
User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17885 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 68):
That's correct, 1504 is the first 76G to be converted to 76Z.

Alrighty then. Thanks for confirming.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193*, 194, 197-99 [3]= 10/13 (76.9%)

Total Complete or In mod: 36/58 (62.1%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 924 posts, RR: 3
Reply 70, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 17551 times:

I am just curious and maybe it has been posted before but what exactly do the codes mean? I know that 76G means they came from Gulf Air. But what about 76L, 76T and 76Z? Same goes for the 757 fleet and its codes like 75X, etc? Thanks for any insight.


Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1174 posts, RR: 10
Reply 71, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 17460 times:

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 70):
I am just curious and maybe it has been posted before but what exactly do the codes mean? I know that 76G means they came from Gulf Air. But what about 76L, 76T and 76Z? Same goes for the 757 fleet and its codes like 75X, etc? Thanks for any insight.

I would be curious who would know. As a DL f/A, I have no idea where/how they come up with these codes.
Z=you get more zzzzz's with the lay flat? lol.


User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 72, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 17433 times:

They replaced a map on the Delta Dart Board with the alphabet.

User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 73, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 17432 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 2):
Look here for what is being done to the international 767 fleet:

Delta’s 767-300ER Fleet Getting a New Look

I just flew one of the refurbished 763s JFK-LHR last week, and the economy AVOD PTVs were different (better, see below) than the photo shown in the blog. Did they load an older PTV image in the blog? Also, as you can see below the seats in each photo, there were 110V AC power even in regular economy.

Economy cabin of a refurbished DL 767-300ER, on JFK-LHR


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 74, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 17301 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 73):
Did they load an older PTV image in the blog?

The blog photo is of a 76T, which used refurbished seats pulled from domestic 767s that were in storage. The newer modded planes are getting a newer monitor, known as an " ECO 9i integrated smart monitor."

Quoting sankaps (Reply 73):
Also, as you can see below the seats in each photo, there were 110V AC power even in regular economy.

IIRC, it is only in the first 10 rows of Y class.



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineflyabr From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17167 times:

Any chance ATL-DUB will feature an updated 767 by the end of September??  

User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 76, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17106 times:
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Quoting globalflyer (Reply 70):
Quoting cokepopper (Reply 71):

Initially, I was told in AQ, IQ, CQ, DQ whatever, that the letter suffixes were notations for what kind IFE equipment were onboard. Some which make sense as is with the 75N(no IFE), 75U/76U(both OH video). With the others, I don't know. I suspect we'll see the same thing with the A330 and 753 fleet when they enter mods shortly. We'll get a bulliten from HSS very soon



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 77, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17287 times:

N195DN is going to Singapore for mods today. Good to see those 76Z's churning out quickly. Looks like transpacific flights will soon mostly feature flat beds (except for SEA-NRT, but that's going to a 747 soon).

User currently offlinenwa757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 78, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17246 times:

Quoting SR117 (Reply 77):
(except for SEA-NRT, but that's going to a 747 soon).

All 747s have lie flat beds in BE


User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 79, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17260 times:

But until June, the NRT flight will soldier on with the A330.

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 16957 times:

Quoting SR117 (Reply 77):
N195DN is going to Singapore for mods today.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193*, 194, 195*, 197-99 [3]= 11/13 (84.6%)

Total Complete or In mod: 37/58 (63.8%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 81, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 16601 times:

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 76):

Not quite..

N came about during the merger to differentiate "N"orthwest 757s from PMDL 757s with CRTs. 75/6U had to do with the winglet program for gate spacing. Nothing really to do with entertainment. Now back to the question of how they come up with the codes is a mystery. 75X? M8R? M9K? 32R?



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User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 16500 times:

Not quite quite....

Northwest had both the N and M 757s. The Ns were the 5500s no over wing exits. The Ms were the 5600s with over wing exits. I believe there was a two seat difference in coach.



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User currently offlineairtechy From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 16470 times:

What happens to all the "old" IFE stuff that is removed from the planes for these upgrades? Do the new equipment providers offer the equivalent of a "trade-in"? I can picture a warehouse with thousands of old seats and those humongous under seat equipment boxes that take up all the under seat space. Surely by now that equipment can be packaged within the monitor themselves.

It would be kinda neat to play with some of that stuff.   


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 84, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week ago) and read 16400 times:

Quoting SELMER40 (Reply 82):
Northwest had both the N and M 757s. The Ns were the 5500s no over wing exits. The Ms were the 5600s with over wing exits. I believe there was a two seat difference in coach.

Ahhh didn't know that so NW always called their 75s Ns. When they first started showing up in Atlanta they carried an odd code but don't remember what it was. Of course this was just what was in the internal FIDS.



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User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16327 times:

Back on the headline, with the first 76G going into mod, I blieve it will come out as a 76G with different seating. Dealing with extra doors and one less over wing exit row, I just don't see how it can be called a Z. When the Ts went in for mod they came out as Ts. With only seven planes to deal with during the mod period it would not be difficult to route the two different seating plans for a few months. That would be better than having to route a larger number of Zs with two different seating plans for a long amount of time. We will know soon......


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 2
Reply 86, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16330 times:

Quoting SELMER40 (Reply 85):
Back on the headline, with the first 76G going into mod, I blieve it will come out as a 76G with different seating. Dealing with extra doors and one less over wing exit row, I just don't see how it can be called a Z. When the Ts went in for mod they came out as Ts. With only seven planes to deal with during the mod period it would not be difficult to route the two different seating plans for a few months. That would be better than having to route a larger number of Zs with two different seating plans for a long amount of time. We will know soon......

Nope, according to a post by Chris Babb on FT, they will be part of the 76Z fleet. There will be a slight difference in pitch in the exit rows, however, the overall layout should be pretty much identical enough to allow the two to be interchangeable (the 76G seat counts listed in this post is the current configuration, not the configuration after mods).



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15964 times:

Ship #193 (N193DN) has completed mods and is flying QPG-NRT on March 23rd.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N193DN


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 88, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15896 times:

Quoting SELMER40 (Reply 85):
Back on the headline, with the first 76G going into mod, I blieve it will come out as a 76G with different seating. Dealing with extra doors and one less over wing exit row, I just don't see how it can be called a Z. When the Ts went in for mod they came out as Ts. With only seven planes to deal with during the mod period it would not be difficult to route the two different seating plans for a few months. That would be better than having to route a larger number of Zs with two different seating plans for a long amount of time. We will know soon......

You'd loose that bet. All 76Gs are being converted to Zs. Internally, you won't be able to tell the difference except of course for the big exit doors and slight difference in lav locations. On the 76Gs-Zs, the first set of coach lavs are located just aft of the L2/R2 doors. On the 76Us-Zs, the lavs are almost mid-cabin. About 7 rows back. Then of course the rear lavs.

Both will seat 26BE 29EC 171YC. From a network planning perspective, all 20 a/c will be used interchangeably because they will all seat the exact amount of people in both cabins, including having identical EC and Y seat counts.

Just a note but ship 3301 (330-300) is now in mods and should enter revenue service by mid April. Prob won't see a separate thread because this will be the only ship to get interior mods until the fall so there will be quite a gap.

[Edited 2013-03-22 21:18:12]


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User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1688 posts, RR: 12
Reply 89, posted (1 year 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 15448 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 84):
Ahhh didn't know that so NW always called their 75s Ns. When they first started showing up in Atlanta they carried an odd code but don't remember what it was. Of course this was just what was in the internal FIDS.

I am not aware of any internal designation of 'N' and 'M' within Northwest for the 757's. The current 'N' was the 5500 (ships 5501 to 5535) and the 'M' was the 5600 (ships 5636 to 5657).

Of interest, I was just on 5533 last night ATL-LAS and this was the most complete ex-5500 series interior redo. The ceiling panels were the new 777-like and the PSU's were all refreshed, along with complete DL sidewalls, bulkheads and restrooms. Other 5500-series planes I've been on are a mish-mash of interiors. Still...5533 maintains the exact same NW layout.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 2
Reply 90, posted (1 year 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 15434 times:

Quoting n7371f (Reply 89):
Of interest, I was just on 5533 last night ATL-LAS and this was the most complete ex-5500 series interior redo. The ceiling panels were the new 777-like and the PSU's were all refreshed, along with complete DL sidewalls, bulkheads and restrooms. Other 5500-series planes I've been on are a mish-mash of interiors. Still...5533 maintains the exact same NW layout.

Did the PSUs have the adjustable LED reading lights? Also, did it get the new signage that replaced the illuminated No Smoking signs with illuminated blue Wi-Fi signs and a non-illuminated No Smoking symbol next to it?

[Edited 2013-03-24 18:17:43]


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User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 15275 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 87):
Ship #193 (N193DN) has completed mods and is flying QPG-NRT on March 23rd.http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N193DN

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 18/31 (58.1%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193-4 [2], 195*, 197-99 [3]= 11/13 (84.6%)

Total Complete or In mod: 37/58 (63.8%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 92, posted (1 year 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 15105 times:
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Quoting audidudi (Reply 87):
Ship #193 (N193DN) has completed mods and is flying QPG-NRT on March 23rd.

And it looks like ship 1702 (N172DZ) has now gone in for mods (to QPG), replacing 193. N172DZ will be a 76L


User currently offlinezmp0psa From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 15018 times:

Does anyone have a list of routes currently operated with any version of the refurbished 767s? I believe I read a while back that all TPac 767 flights are being operated with a refurbished model, but haven't heard anything since then.

User currently offlinezmp0psa From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14759 times:

Using flightaware and the registration numbers of ships with completed mods, I put together this list. Using this method I'm sure I missed quite a few destinations that aren't served daily. I've read there have been a lot of last minute ship changes between old and new models, but this still may be useful for some, as it is for me. Anyone have any other destinations I can add to the list?


NRT
NRT-HNL 76Z
NRT-PDX 76Z
NRT-PEK 76Z
NRT-PVG 76Z

ATL
ATL-BRU 76L
ATL-CDG 76L
ATL-DUS 76L
ATL-LOS 76T
ATL-MAN 76Z
ATL-SFO 76Z
ATL-STR 76Z
ATL-ZRH 76Z
ATL-CCS 76Z

SFO
SFO-NRT 76Z

SEA
SEA-KIX 76T
SEA-PEK 76T

JFK
JFK-BCN 76L
JFK-BRU 76L
JFK-CDG 76T
JFK-FRA 76L
JFK-LHR 76L
JFK-MAD 76L

BOS
BOS-LHR 76L
BOS-FRA 76Z

DTW
DTW-ATL 76L
DTW-GRU 76L

CVG
CVG-CDG 76T


User currently offlinePIEAvantiP180 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 14695 times:
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Quoting zmp0psa (Reply 94):

Just a minor correction but DL does not serve BOS-FRA.


User currently offlinezmp0psa From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14548 times:

Quoting PIEAvantiP180 (Reply 95):
Just a minor correction but DL does not serve BOS-FRA.

I really should have noticed that when I was typing. It appears N189DN flew BOS-HHN as a charter and when I saw Frankfurt I I wrote it down. Thanks!


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14472 times:

You can add NRT-SFO to the list.

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14138 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 92):
And it looks like ship 1702 (N172DZ) has now gone in for mods (to QPG), replacing 193. N172DZ will be a 76L

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1702*, 1703*, 1705, 1708 = 19/31 (61.3%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193-4 [2], 195*, 197-99 [3]= 11/13 (84.6%)

Total Complete or In mod: 38/58 (65.5%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 13739 times:

Ship #1703 (N173DZ) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 1st.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N173DZ


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13610 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 99):

Ship #1703 (N173DZ) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 1st.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N173DZ

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184*, 185, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1702*, 1703, 1705, 1708 = 19/31 (61.3%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 193-4 [2], 195*, 197-99 [3]= 11/13 (84.6%)

Total Complete or In mod: 38/58 (65.5%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13355 times:

Ship #184 (N184DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 3rd.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N184DN


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4868 posts, RR: 25
Reply 102, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13655 times:
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Looks like ships 196 and 192 (both to be 76Zs) may be the next ones going in (to replace 1703 and 184)

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13553 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 101):
Ship #184 (N184DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 3rd.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N184DN
Quoting panamair (Reply 102):

Looks like ships 196 and 192 (both to be 76Zs) may be the next ones going in (to replace 1703 and 184)

That would complete the original 76Zs.

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1702*, 1703, 1705, 1708 = 19/31 (61.3%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187*, 188-91 [4], 192*, 193-4 [2], 195*, 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 40/58 (69.0%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12986 times:

As we can see from the last post, 34/58 B763ERs have completed mods and a further 6 are in mods. As has been previously reported a total of 43/58 are scheduled to be modded before June, with the remaining 15 to be completed after September. Does anyone know which aircraft are the final 3 to go in to mods in the next month before the summer break?

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12631 times:

Ship #187 (N187DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 17th.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N187DN


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 12309 times:

It looks like ship #186 (N186DN) is the next to go in to mods. It arrives in NRT on April 18th operating DL617 SFO-NRT.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 12188 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 105):

Ship #187 (N187DN) has completed mods and is scheduled from NRT-SFO on April 17th.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N187DN
Quoting audidudi (Reply 106):

It looks like ship #186 (N186DN) is the next to go in to mods. It arrives in NRT on April 18th operating DL617 SFO-NRT.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1702*, 1703, 1705, 1708 = 20/31 (64.5%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187-91 [5], 192*, 193-4 [2], 195*, 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 40/58 (70.7%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11967 times:

N195DN (was in QPG for mods) appears to be on the move: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N195DN

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701, 1702*, 1703, 1705, 1708 = 20/31 (64.5%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187-91 [5], 192*, 193-5 [3], 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 40/58 (70.7%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11112 times:

According to FlightAware, ship #1707 has not flown since arriving in ATL on April 21st. Does anyone know if this has gone to QPG to be modded?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N177DZ

[Edited 2013-04-29 02:50:08]

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 110, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 11051 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 109):

According to FlightAware, ship #1707 has not flown since arriving in ATL on April 21st. Does anyone know if this has gone to QPG to be modded?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N177DZ

Nope. Still in Atlanta for MTC.



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11015 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 110):

Are any more birds going to QPG to be modded before June, as it was originally reported that 43/58 would be modded by June, and so far 41/58 have been completed or are in mods, thus any further birds going there would have to be scheduled soon, otherwise the rest will be done from October on?


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 112, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10889 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 111):
Are any more birds going to QPG to be modded before June, as it was originally reported that 43/58 would be modded by June, and so far 41/58 have been completed or are in mods, thus any further birds going there would have to be scheduled soon, otherwise the rest will be done from October on?

That I can't tell you because I don't know. I'm not involved nor is my department privy to that sort off 'forward' information. You'd be surprised what us DL folk actually know. I'm pretty sure the contractors know more than I do when it comes to these things.



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User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10848 times:

N172DZ is on the move: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N172DZ

N176DZ flew SFO-NRT yesterday, likely to continuing on to QPG: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N176DZ

76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-3 [3], 1705, 1706*, 1708 = 21/31 (67.7%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187-91 [5], 192*, 193-5 [3], 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 42/58 (72.4%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10375 times:

N192DN scheduled out of QPG May 6: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N192DN

N196DN - the last 76Z (pre-mod) - likely to be out shortly as it went in around the same time as 192.

1704 (showing into PDX May 7) may swap with 192 (scheduled NRT-PDX on May 7)...will monitor.


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76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-3 [3], 1705, 1706*, 1708 = 21/31 (67.7%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187-95 [9], 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 42/58 (72.4%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *

[Edited 2013-05-06 10:17:07]

[Edited 2013-05-06 10:17:14]

[Edited 2013-05-06 10:17:21]

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10319 times:

Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there must be some issues accounting for the extra time in mods. Most birds are being completed in five to six weeks.

[Edited 2013-05-06 11:41:07]

User currently offlinecv880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 116, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10265 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 115):
Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there may be some d

Ship #1504 is N154DL and is ex-GulfAir, and is still showing the old configuration.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 2
Reply 117, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 10128 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 115):
Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there must be some issues accounting for the extra time in mods. Most birds are being completed in five to six weeks.

I heard the 76Gs are being retrofitted with a gasper vent system, and perhaps DL is waiting on FAA approval.



The Pink Delta 767-400ER - The most beautiful aircraft in the sky
User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 118, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9767 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 115):
Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there must be some issues accounting for the extra time in mods. Most birds are being completed in five to six weeks.
Quoting cv880 (Reply 116):
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 117):

First one out in about 2 weeks..



What gets measured gets done.
User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9557 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 114):
1704 (showing into PDX May 7) may swap with 192 (scheduled NRT-PDX on May 7)...will monitor.

Looks to be the next one in. That should wrap up new entries for the summer.



76G C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-3 [3], 1704*, 1705, 1706*, 1708 = 22/31 (71%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 187-95 [9], 196*, 197-99 [3]= 13/13 (100%)

Total Complete or In mod: 43/58 (74.1%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlinecelestar345 From Hong Kong, joined May 2013, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9505 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 115):
Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there must be some issues accounting for the extra time in mods. Most birds are being completed in five to six weeks.

It's nearing finish - bearing in mind it is in not only for the interior mod, but also a heavy maintenance check and flight system upgrade.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 117):
I heard the 76Gs are being retrofitted with a gasper vent system, and perhaps DL is waiting on FAA approval.

All prototype, no matter how little, will require FAA approval. Plus being a new configuration for the interior mod means plenty of teething problem of design and reality, and many many documentation work....


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 2
Reply 121, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9442 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 115):
Ship #1704 (N154DL) has been in mods for over two months already! I wonder why it's taking so long? It's probably because it's the first 76G to be modded and there must be some issues accounting for the extra time in mods. Most birds are being completed in five to six weeks.

I presume you mean ship #1504. Ship #1704 is N174DZ.



The Pink Delta 767-400ER - The most beautiful aircraft in the sky
User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 9241 times:

The last 76Z, N196DN is now out and scheduled to fly NRT-SFO on 11May. That completes the pre-mod 76Zs.

Quoting n515cr (Reply 114):
N196DN - the last 76Z (pre-mod) - likely to be out shortly as it went in around the same time as 192.

76G C26W29Y171 (76Z after mod - *25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504* = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-85 [2], 186*, 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-3 [3], 1704*, 1705, 1706*, 1708 = 22/31 (71%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 100%

Total Complete or In mod: 43/58 (74.1%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 123, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8804 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 122):
in Mod: 1504*...

Somehow N154DL has gotten to ATL undected. It is scheduled to operate flight 1166 (sub for a 757) from ATL to DTW this afternoon. The booking seat map shows a 6 door config with an extra over wing exit row. delta.com has a new seat map page but, it still does not have a seat map for 76U which will be around for a while longer.



Teaching this old dog a new trick
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8383 times:

Ditto for ship #186 (N186DN). It has also managed to get to ATL undetected as can be seen here on FlightAware.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (1 year 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 8228 times:

Quoting SELMER40 (Reply 123):
Somehow N154DL has gotten to ATL undected. It is scheduled to operate flight 1166 (sub for a 757) from ATL to DTW this afternoon. The booking seat map shows a 6 door config with an extra over wing exit row. delta.com has a new seat map page but, it still does not have a seat map for 76U which will be around for a while longer.
Quoting audidudi (Reply 124):
Ditto for ship #186 (N186DN). It has also managed to get to ATL undetected as can be seen here on FlightAware.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN


That leaves 2 in QPG for mod...due out in June.

76G C26W29Y171 (76Z after mod - *25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504 = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-3 [2], 184-86 [3], 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-3 [3], 1704*, 1705, 1706*, 1708 = 22/31 (71%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 100%

Total Complete or In mod (2): 43/58 (74.1%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 126, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7963 times:

Thanks for the updates guys.......

Does anyone know whether additional aircraft will be converted to the 76Z configuration? It might make more routes which don't require a heavy premium cabin more viable.

As a DL Purser I use these updates to determine the configuration of the ship I'll be working on as it will affect where the other F/As will be sitting for take off and landing as well as the execution of the BusinessElite service.


User currently offlinenwa757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 127, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8117 times:

Quoting TR1 (Reply 126):
As a DL Purser I use these updates to determine the configuration of the ship I'll be working on as it will affect where the other F/As will be sitting for take off and landing as well as the execution of the BusinessElite service.

Same here...haha...hopefully soon there will be more standardization of the fleets!


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8103 times:

Quoting TR1 (Reply 126):
Does anyone know whether additional aircraft will be converted to the 76Z configuration? It might make more routes which don't require a heavy premium cabin more viable.

Yes, there are 6 more 76Gs (ex-Gulf Air aircraft) that will become 76Zs after conversion.


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7588 times:

Ship #1706 (N176DZ) has not only finished mods, but has already flown from ATL-MXP, having flown from QPG-ATL undetected, similar to the last two to be modded, as noted in posts 123 and 124! This leaves ship #1704 (N174DZ) as the last of the B763ERs in mods, due to be finished in two weeks, before the summer season begins in earnest, and then the resumption of the final 15 aircraft to be modded, starting in October.

User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 130, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

I wonder how they determine which routes get the premodified aircraft?

User currently onlineklkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 929 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7085 times:

Quoting TR1 (Reply 126):
As a DL Purser I use these updates to determine the configuration of the ship I'll be working on as it will affect where the other F/As will be sitting for take off and landing as well as the execution of the BusinessElite service.

That's interesting. Even though this is slightly off topic do you find a difference in customer attitudes among customers in the old configuration compared to new?


User currently offlineAlnicocunife From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 125):
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]

Where is ship 173? I think it is a bone yard? Is it going to be flown again and if it is in what config?


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7025 times:

N176DZ is back in the system leaving just N174DZ in QPG for mods.

User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 134, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 81):
32R?

The 32R came from NW, those aircraft are the ones equipped with rafts.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 135, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6498 times:

Quoting klkla (Reply 131):
That's interesting. Even though this is slightly off topic do you find a difference in customer attitudes among customers in the old configuration compared to new?

Definitely. With all the promotion DL does for the lie-flat seats, BusinessElite customers are disappointed when they are on the old configuration. Even in Economy, often customers are disappointed when they have the traditional main screen entertainment on the old configuration instead of the PTVs.


User currently offlinejetstream3399 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

Does anyone know if the few 76Z's that are now operating JFK-LAX have WiFi? It seems crazy to me that Delta would deploy aircraft without it on such a business oriented route, despite the upgrades to the cabin product. It's a necessity for most corporate travelers.

User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 137, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

DL is installing wifi on their international fleet this year, so if these aircraft don't have it now, they will by 2015. But agreed, dayligh flights customers would want/need wifi more than lie flat seats, and red eyes would be just the opposite.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1651


User currently offlineTR1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 138, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

Quoting jetstream3399 (Reply 136):
Does anyone know if the few 76Z's that are now operating JFK-LAX have WiFi?

Some of them do at least. I worked JFK-LAX two days ago on ship 196 which had wi-fi.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 139, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6249 times:

Quoting TR1 (Reply 138):
Some of them do at least. I worked JFK-LAX two days ago on ship 196 which had wi-fi.

Funny thing, I flew that bird DUB-JFK two days ago before it flew the JFK-LAX leg : ) I did notice the gogo wifi signal when boarding in Dublin and figured it was installed on the 76Zs since they were doing transcon flights. Very comfy ride !


User currently offlinenwa757boy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 140, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6124 times:

Quoting jetstream3399 (Reply 136):
Does anyone know if the few 76Z's that are now operating JFK-LAX have WiFi?

Ship 189 has Wifi too


User currently offlinen471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1510 posts, RR: 2
Reply 141, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6127 times:
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Quoting Alnicocunife (Reply 132):
Where is ship 173? I think it is a bone yard? Is it going to be flown again and if it is in what config?

No one seems to know and Delta employees have not provided an answer but for now it sadly sits in the desert while its older sisters fly---go figure


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 142, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6080 times:

I was taxiing for take off at JFK this evening and saw ship #189 (N189DN) which completed mods early March, and I was astonished to see it still doesn't have winglets! Surely this could/should have been done at the same time in QPG. For an aircraft like this to be flying long-haul without winglets is surely wasting fuel, if nothing else! Anyone care to comment?

[Edited 2013-06-06 22:43:43]

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

It's also possible that three other ships, #188, #1504 and #1706 don't have winglets either, despite being modded; also ships #190, and #1708 don't have them. And there may be others! I'm still baffled by this as I would have thought that the cost of fitting winglets would be more that recouped in the fuel savings on the long-haul flights which they are currently flying.

[Edited 2013-06-07 11:54:55]

[Edited 2013-06-07 12:01:26]

User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5851 times:

A management decision to install winglets would be based on financial analysis with a number of assumptions, including fuel price and longevity of aircraft. Maybe fuel prices have fallen (or there's a marketing plan that calls for marginally less use of -300ERs on long(est) hauls) such that winglets don't achieve the ROIC hurdle.

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 145, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 142):
I was taxiing for take off at JFK this evening and saw ship #189 (N189DN) which completed mods early March, and I was astonished to see it still doesn't have winglets! Surely this could/should have been done at the same time in QPG. For an aircraft like this to be flying long-haul without winglets is surely wasting fuel, if nothing else! Anyone care to comment?
Quoting audidudi (Reply 143):
It's also possible that three other ships, #188, #1504 and #1706 don't have winglets either, despite being modded; also ships #190, and #1708 don't have them. And there may be others! I'm still baffled by this as I would have thought that the cost of fitting winglets would be more that recouped in the fuel savings on the long-haul flights which they are currently flying.
Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 144):
A management decision to install winglets would be based on financial analysis with a number of assumptions, including fuel price and longevity of aircraft. Maybe fuel prices have fallen (or there's a marketing plan that calls for marginally less use of -300ERs on long(est) hauls) such that winglets don't achieve the ROIC hurdle.

Each a/c has a path for mods. The winglet and interior mods are independent programs. Nothing has changed. All ERs will get winglets it's just a question of when the frame is scheduled to get the work done.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 145):
Each a/c has a path for mods. The winglet and interior mods are independent programs. Nothing has changed. All ERs will get winglets it's just a question of when the frame is scheduled to get the work done.

Are they still planning to do the winglet mods in GSO, or are those to be done in ATL?


User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 147, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5513 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 146):

I don't think we have the room in ATL. Basically going to have MRO 767s getting winglets two at a time till at least november. They are trying to get more winglets and C-checks to fill in after that.
Unless they were to do it in one of 265s bays during PSVs but I have yet to see them do a winglet mod on anything other than a 737 (and thats down in Bay 1)

I guess they could do them in MSP? no idea how busy 251 and 260 is up there. ATL is pretty full. We were talking about 717 letter checks and PSVs today. (in that, we honestly can't see them being done here unless the 319/320s go back to MSP or they send some 737 work to MSP.)
I haven't heard what they plan for that is yet. FlyASA have you heard anything?



yep.
User currently offlinee7plnr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 5
Reply 148, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5239 times:

Ships 180 and 181 will be converted to the 76Z configuration starting in September. This will extend the 76Z fleet to 22 a/c (includes 76G->76Z).

User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 149, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5249 times:

The wife and daughter just got off of the DUS-ATL flight...still overhead tv's and most of them weren't working properly. Pretty sad that a carrier with a huge international network is waiting this long to finally revamp their product.

User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 150, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 149):

Yeah i mean, dang American and United have full lie-flats fleet wide and they upgraded the fleet in an overnight hangar visit.  

In the real world have 15 767s out the of 58 fleet that don't have lie-flats. They started the mods at the end of the last summer and have basically been doing 3-6 airplanes a month. Yes....that is amazingly slow.  



yep.
User currently offlineAlnicocunife From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5042 times:

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 150):
Yeah i mean, dang American and United have full lie-flats fleet wide and they upgraded the fleet in an overnight hangar visit.

I think Delta is replacing the entire cabin. I flew to AMS a few months ago and the Business Elite was completely changed. It had the largest lavatory I have seen in a plane as well as crew rest for the pilots down stairs. I do not believe it is just a seat replace and re-pitch as United and AA have done.


User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 152, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

Quoting Deltal1011man (Reply 150):

In the real world have 15 767s out the of 58 fleet that don't have lie-flats. They started the mods at the end of the last summer and have basically been doing 3-6 airplanes a month. Yes....that is amazingly slow.

Talking about AVOD and the like here...


User currently offlinecv880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 153, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4958 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 152):

Talking about AVOD and the like here...

43 of 58 DL 767-300ER's have AVOD in economy vs ZERO on AA and a far fewer number on UA(if any). The remaining 15 will have AVOD by year end. The DUS-ATL flight is virtually short haul compared with the Pacific and African routes, so some of the shorter routes will still see the older interiors for a few months. After these 15 aircraft are complete, the entire int'l fleet of widebody aircraft will all have AVOD in economy.

[Edited 2013-06-10 01:12:10]

User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 154, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

Quoting cv880 (Reply 153):
43 of 58 DL 767-300ER's have AVOD in economy vs ZERO on AA and a far fewer number on UA(if any). The remaining 15 will have AVOD by year end.

I can't think of another airline willing to spend millions on interior upgrades and winglets on airplanes with 105,000+ flight hours on them.



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

There have been multiple postings of the total number of aircraft being modded as 58, with 42 having been completed already, and #43, ship #1704, due to be completed shortly. However I have counted that there are 16 B763ERs which have not been modded yet, so does this mean that one of them won't be done? Here is the the one which I assume won't be modded:

ship #173 (N173DN) which has been in the desert for over two years and may be permanently stored.

[Edited 2013-06-10 07:57:37]

User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 156, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

Quoting Alnicocunife (Reply 151):

I think Delta is replacing the entire cabin. I flew to AMS a few months ago and the Business Elite was completely changed. It had the largest lavatory I have seen in a plane as well as crew rest for the pilots down stairs. I do not believe it is just a seat replace and re-pitch as United and AA have done.

You would be right. The only thing that may not be getting replaced is the lav, but even they are, IIRC, getting a refurbishing.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 152):

Talking about AVOD and the like here...

Ok....fine. Take out the lie-flat and add AVOD in its place.

What US carrier has the most 767-300ERs (or 767s in general) that has AVOD? You'll find that Delta is the largest, by far. They are pushing the mods as fast as they can. Can't just do AVOD in an overnight visit.
On top of that they are replacing basically everything the PAXs see in the cabin. Everything from seats and carpet to galleys and bins.

Quoting audidudi (Reply 155):

ship #173 (N173DN) which has been in the desert for over two years and may be permanently stored.

I haven't seen anything that says it will be back.

If Europe's economy starts to come back in the near future it could get a HMV and mods........but right now that looks like a fairly big if.



yep.
User currently offlinecv880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 157, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 155):
There have been multiple postings of the total number of aircraft being modded as 58, with 42 having been completed already, and #43, ship #1704, due to be completed shortly

Ship N174DZ flight plan filed for WSAP-RJAA departing Paya Lebar today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9932


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 143):
It's also possible that three other ships, #188, #1504 and #1706 don't have winglets either, despite being modded; also ships #190, and #1708 don't have them. And there may be others! I'm still baffled by this as I would have thought that the cost of fitting winglets would be more that recouped in the fuel savings on the long-haul flights which they are currently flying.

Looks like there are 15 w/o winglets:
76G
N1501P
N152DL
N153DL
N154DL
N155DL
N156DL
N394DL

76L
N171DN
N183DN
N184DN
N176DZ
N178DZ


76Z
N188DN
N189DN
N190DN

Quoting cv880 (Reply 157):
Ship N174DZ flight plan filed for WSAP-RJAA departing Paya Lebar today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...L9932


A quick recap before the summer hiatus..

76G C26W29Y171 (76Z after mod - *25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 1504 = 1/7 (14.3%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 172, 174, 182-186 [5], 1200-1201 [2], 1601-6 [6], 1701-1706 [6], 1708 = 22/31 (71%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed or in Mod: 100%

Total Complete or In mod (0): 43/58 (74.1%)
-Aircraft that are in mod are indicated with a *


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

I found a photo here of one of the aircraft on your list; so maybe there are 14!


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User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 159):
I found a photo here of one of the aircraft on your list; so maybe there are 14!

Cool, thanks for catching that!


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

There is one more aircraft that was purchased earlier this year and has been parked at MZJ ever since. Does anyone know what is happening to this bird? I can only think one of two things; for parts or to be put in service. Any ideas?

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User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1174 posts, RR: 10
Reply 162, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 161):

From what I understand this a/c is just for parts....

also, this 763 doors doesn't even match the config of present 763 a/c.
It would be like a hybrid of our 76G and the 764 doors but on a 763


User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1688 posts, RR: 12
Reply 163, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3849 times:
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Quoting audidudi (Reply 161):

N764RD is ex Ryan Intl & is strictly to be a parts plane.


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2189 posts, RR: 5
Reply 164, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

Whatever happened to the ex GOL 767s that Delta took over the leases for? I believe they were PR-VAO AND PR-VAC. Are they still stored at GYR?

User currently offlineAlnicocunife From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 155):
ship #173 (N173DN) which has been in the desert for over two years and may be permanently stored.

It looks like ship 173 was painted? The fuselage at least. Why would they do that if it was not coming back into service?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...d=123c190ddd2850c56deb1f51ea6db175


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