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Airbus And Boeing Orders 2013  
User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 58207 times:
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Boeing starts off 2013 with a top-up order for two 737s for an Unidentified Customer.

In other news, BA is taking two new 777-300ERs via lease from Air Lease Corporation with delivery planned in May and July of 2014.

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User currently offlinerobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 58156 times:

Nice for BA and ALC, but this seems to be not a new order for Boeing.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 57882 times:
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Quoting robffm2 (Reply 1):
Nice for BA and ALC, but this seems to be not a new order for Boeing.

It is not. ALC ordered the planes in 2011.


User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3205 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 57707 times:
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5 737 cancelations noted last year are identified as Blue Air
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...n-boeing-737-order.html?cmpid=yhoo


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 57040 times:
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American Airlines today disclosed in a Securities and Exchange filing that they have reached an agreement to confirm their 42 frame 787-9 MoU, though they have changed the mix of planes to 20 787-8s and 22 787-9s. They have also entered into a definitive agreement the 100 frame 737 MAX order, though they appear to be getting a price reduction from whatever they agreed to on the MoU.

American and Airbus also signed a definitive agreement last Friday (11 January) for American’s purchase of 260 aircraft from the Airbus A320 family.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...dreamliners-in-november-2014.html/

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...CFGFG%7Ctwitterfeed%7CFlightglobal

[Edited 2013-01-14 16:14:42]

User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1079 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 56691 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
They have also entered into a definitive agreement the 100 frame 737 MAX order, though they appear to be getting a price reduction from whatever they agreed to on the MoU.

Well .. this orders had been noted as firm in Boeing's book since summer 2011.
 


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 56365 times:
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Quoting Chiad (Reply 5):
Well .. this orders had been noted as firm in Boeing's book since summer 2011.

AA placed a firm order for 100 737-800s on 27 July 2011. This is the order that appears on Boeing's O&D site. The MAX order has yet to be posted.


User currently offlineFocker From Netherlands, joined Jan 2011, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 56272 times:

Another Airbus announcement:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Airbus/status/291185578815410176?p=v

"First success in Africa for the #A320neo with Syphax Airlines! They’ve signed an agreement for 3 A320neo & 3 A320ceo aircraft."


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 55516 times:
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Another quiet week for Boeing with no announced orders. Current tally for the year remains 2 UFO 737-800s.

I don't believe Airbus has announced any 2013 orders as of yet (the 2013 announcements to date were booked in 2012).


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 55441 times:

So far Airbus sold 10 A350s this month.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...350-xwb-aircraft-to-its-portfolio/



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12054 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 55354 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9):
So far Airbus sold 10 A350s this month.

No, tat order was signed at the end of Dec. 2012. It is included in Airbus's 2012 order count.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 55330 times:

It's not in the 2012 order book.

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/

Flightglobal also reported that this one is a 2013 order.



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 54907 times:

No changes in Boeing's order books this week neither

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 54441 times:

TK has ordered additional five A330-300, although yet to be firmed by Airbus

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...es-orders-five-more-a330-300s-0201


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 53834 times:

Second A350 order for the year: Lessor Air Lease orders five A350-1000s and 20 A350-900s.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...west-most-fuel-efficient-aircraft/

[Edited 2013-02-04 03:43:49]


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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4150 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 53805 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
Second A350 order for the year: Lessor Air Lease orders five A350-1000s and 20 A350-900s.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...raft/

Plus another 14 A321neo if I read the press release correctly.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12026 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 53658 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
Second A350 order for the year: Lessor Air Lease orders five A350-1000s and 20 A350-900s.

That's a nice order and positive news for the much-maligned (on a.net at least) -1000.   

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 15):
Plus another 14 A321neo if I read the press release correctly.

It certainly reads that way.



Hey AA, the 1960s called. They want their planes back!
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 53635 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 16):
and positive news for the much-maligned (on a.net at least) -1000.

Plus another five options for the -1000.

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 15):
Plus another 14 A321neo if I read the press release correctly.

If I understand it correctly they firmed the 14 Farnborough options.



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User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6840 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 53572 times:

“The A350 XWB Family is becoming the industry benchmark for efficiency in the long haul segment, and the A320neo Family is ideal for airlines operating short to medium haul missions. These aircraft will help airlines grow their businesses while simultaneously reducing their operating costs and emissions,” said Steven F. Udvar-Házy.

Hmmm. Interesting.


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4150 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 53337 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 13):
TK has ordered additional five A330-300, although yet to be firmed by Airbus

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...-0201

Appears to be for two firm and three optional A330-300s.



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2325 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 53204 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 18):
Hmmm. Interesting

Indeed!

Off course one could easily replace "A350 XWB Family" by B787 Family" and "A320neo Family" by B737 MAX Family, and the same statement would be equally true:

"The B787 Family is [becoming] the industry benchmark for efficiency in the long haul segment, and the B737 MAX Family is ideal for airlines operating short to medium haul missions. These aircraft will help airlines grow their businesses while simultaneously reducing their operating costs and emissions,” said Steven F. Udvar-Házy"


EDIT: Apologies PM, if offended. Just realized your comment was not aimed at B, but rather towards SUH, who's words on the -1000 and redesign/delay saga were of a quite different nature not so long ago . . .

PW100

[Edited 2013-02-04 08:31:02]


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User currently offlineServantLeader From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 53124 times:

It's a buyer's market with the B787 grounded indefinitely and the A350 a year away from going into service -- I'd put my money on the A350 assuming they can learn from Boeing's mistakes.

User currently offlinePM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6840 posts, RR: 64
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 52657 times:

Quoting PW100 (Reply 20):
EDIT: Apologies PM, if offended. Just realized your comment was not aimed at B, but rather towards SUH

No offence taken!  

And yes, I was more amused by Sir SUH's comments than taking any kind of swipe at Boeing.

And why would I knock Boeing less than twelve hours before boarding a 747-8i with two more 747-8i flights to come next week?         

In Business!      


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 52205 times:

AA firms 100 737 Max, 1 777 and 42 787 aircraft.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

[Edited 2013-02-07 10:33:25]


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 52147 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 23):
AA firms 100 737 Max, 1 777 and 42 787 aircraft.

Good day for GE, as the 787s will have GEnx, the 77W has GE90 and the MAX will have CFM (of which GE is a major partner).


25 Post contains links india1 : Airbus' AA orders also on the books http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/
26 KarelXWB : Interesting, I'm missing the 100 A320ceo aircraft?
27 moo : Supposed to be filled through lessors.
28 sirtoby : 130 to be precise!
29 KarelXWB : Are you sure? I thought it was 130x A320neo and 100x A320ceo.
30 Pihero : 3...The largest order was from U.S.-based American Airlines for 130 A321neo jetliner variants, adding another operator to the growing list of A320neo
31 KarelXWB : Spectacular, that's almost half of the total A321neo backlog.
32 Post contains links scbriml : No, it was 130 of each. Plus a few options. Well, 365 actually. http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsroom/fp_amr_fleet_agreement.jsp
33 flightsimer : I don't believe the AA order should be counted for Airbus in 2013. It was was a firm order placed in 2011 that Airbus changed from saying it was firm
34 Stitch : Airbus booked the orders in 2011 and then unbooked them that same year. So they did not count towards Airbus' final 2011 order total and there is no l
35 flightsimer : But thats what I'm saying, American didn't "un order" them. Based off what I was reading, and the way it was worded, makes it sound like it was solel
36 chiad : I think Airbus did correctly by removing a firm orders that they knew would be renegotiated upon bankruptcy. They did so openly because (IMHO) they k
37 someone83 : If I'm getting it correctly Airbus also showed cancelletions of 2 A318(ACJ) and 17 A320ceo?
38 sirtoby : The 17 A320ceo came from Aircraft Purchase Fleet, the Alitalia Leasing vehicle
39 jdevora : Hi, I was going to point you to the 2011 Final order count where they had a slide specially for tell that they took that order away from the orderboo
40 Stitch : I wonder if their 12-frame A350-800 order is at risk?
41 Pihero : So What's the score, so far ?
42 KarelXWB : Gross: Airbus: 140 Boeing: 145 Net: Airbus: 121 Boeing: 145 Alitalia is struggling, I can see them canceling the A350 order. However, the airline sai
43 Post contains links KarelXWB : Icelandair finalizes order for 16 737 Max. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ir-increases-737-max-order-382267/
44 someone83 : ALC also firmed five 737s this week The MoU/Commitment/whatever from last year was for 12 aircrafts, so seems like the order has grown?[Edited 2013-02
45 ZKCIF : Competent People (Hamlet 69 maybe?) said that the 4 extra are converted coptions
46 someone83 : The Icelandair mix seems to be for 9 -8MAX and 7 -9MAX
47 Post contains links KarelXWB : Qantas will place an order for 5 B737-800 aircraft. http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...a330-200s-order-five-new-b737-800s
48 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air Lease Corporation Announce Order for 10 777-300ERs http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2608
49 Post contains links Stitch : Cathay Pacific today announced they are ordering three 747-8Fs and canceling their order for eight 777 freighters. They did add five options for the 7
50 iceberg210 : Boeing has got to be loving this, another 5 747-8's in the books, (orders they need to keep production at the current rate) and they didn't have to lo
51 rotating14 : Does Boeing make any money off of these deals where they buy back their own metal?
52 Stitch : Down the road, they probably do. They can either re-sell the plane or use them to re-stock their spares stores and sell them on in pieces.
53 KarelXWB : The Airbus net orders for 2013 reached 162 aircraft; the company sold 41 aircraft in February. - 25x A350 - 2x A330 - 14x A321neo Also 45 deliveries l
54 chiad : Thanks KarelXWB I read that Airbus expected some 600+ deliveries in 2013. That's some 50 deliveries in average per months. So far there are "only" a
55 KarelXWB : Airbus will soon increase the A320 production to 42 units per month, and the A330 will go to 10 per month. Secondly, Airbus usually delivers a bit mor
56 someone83 : And January is always a quiet month in terms of deliveries Boeing updated theri weekly sheets today showing the current new orders: -ALC: 10 777-300E
57 WestWing : Boeing also updated the monthly report. It confirms that AA converted their remaining five 77E orders to 77Ws.
58 someone83 : How do you find this report where conversions can be seen?
59 N14AZ : 2013 is a Le Bourget year, correct? I have the feeling Airbus is already starting to collect orders for announcement during the air show. On a German
60 KarelXWB : Not a surprise, the 777 production list already listed the AA 77E's as 'not built'. Correct.[Edited 2013-03-08 00:57:23]
61 jumpjets : I am hoping that BA will announce an order for additional A380s at the, fairly inevitable, hand over ceremony for their first A380 later in the year.
62 WestWing : Boeing updates their public databases (on the orders & deliveries website) once a month, usually a week into the following month. For example, db
63 scouseflyer : Would agree that they'll probably get maybe another 10 or 15 and then about 30 779X or A3510 to replace the remaining 744s later in this decade.
64 kanban : Please this thread is about actuals.. not wishes...
65 Post contains links rotating14 : I am not sure if this is factual or not but it seems to be true. Anyone else wanna shed some light on this? http://www.forbes.com/sites/afonteve...-fi
66 Stitch : Air Berlin ordered 15 787-8s on 07 July 2007. Their CEO mentioned yesterday that they were considering converting some or all of those orders to the
67 Viscount724 : Does anyone know how 737MAX orders break down between the MAX 7, MAX 8 and MAX 9? For some reason Boeing only shows a single "737MAX" entry in their o
68 Post contains links Stitch : The best guestimate we have is the chart at http://www.pdxlight.com/neomax.htm, which shows orders by model for the MAX and neo, though they are subj
69 Someone83 : Was all the LH and TK Airbus orders firm? (excluding the options) Noticed at least the 6 777 to LX is yet to be firmed according to Boeing
70 Asiaflyer : According to media and Airbus has LHs Supervisory Board approved the purchase of 108 aircraft, and hence no firm orders signed yet. Re TK order says
71 Polot : Even if they are firm the order was only announced last Thursday- too late to make it onto Boeing's order page (which runs through last Tuesday). We
72 KarelXWB : We will not know for sure until the beginning of next month but Airbus tweeted that they now reached 2000+ NEO orders. That sounds like firm to me be
73 Post contains links Someone83 : According to Airbus, the giant 234 aircraft order from Lion Air (109 A320NEO, 65 A321NEO and 60 A320ceo) is firm http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr.
74 KarelXWB : Before the TK and LH order, Leahy said there are 300 CEO delivery slots left.
75 Pihero : ... and the total CEOs ordered by LH, TK and Lion is 115. So, some 185 slots left.
76 Post contains links packsonflight : Silkway signs MoU for 4 747-8F to be delivered 14 and 15 Congrats to both parties! I wonder what the price was. It is a buyers market.... http://www.t
77 KarelXWB : Boeing has 3 delivering slots left in the beginning of 2014, I'm wondering if they will take 2 of those early slots.
78 Post contains links queb : Following a Memorandum of Understanding in January 2013, Airbus announced a firm order for 16 A321neo aircraft from Hawaiian Airlines http://www.airbu
79 chiad : The NEO has almost done a knockout on the MAX lately. I think the last 5 orders of between them has gone to the NEO. Lets hope RyanAir follows up on
80 KarelXWB : Air Lease Corporation Announces the Placement of Two New Boeing 737-800s with transavia.com
81 someone83 : Airbus march numbers are out: Firmed: Lion: 169 A320 and 65 A321 Hawaiian: 16 A321 Cancelled: 1 A319 and 1 A350 - AFAIK both ACJs
82 chiad : Thanks. A little off topic, but Airbus made 64 deliveries. That must be some kind of record, no?
83 KarelXWB : At least the delivery of 13 A330's last month is a record.
84 Post contains links PanAm_DC10 : BA have ordered another 18 787s according to the following report; IAG Order 18 More 787 For BA (by seansasLCY Apr 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)
85 chiad : Woa .. you're right. Amazing. I am curious about Boeings deliveries in March as they might be behind Airbus since the grounding of the B787. Will the
86 Stitch : Boeing delivered 55 aircraft in March, including one 787 to AI on the 28th (I am guessing this is L/N 54 - VT-ANJ – AI #6 which originally showed a
87 7BOEING7 : Just as all 13 A330's weren't built in March neither were the "record" 10 787's delivered in December built in that month. All it says is that they m
88 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : The 3 CX 747's are finally added to the list. Also 8 777's for an unidentified customer plus 8 cancellations. See http://active.boeing.com/commercial/
89 817Dreamliiner : More than likely the Conversion from CX cargo to Air China Cargo for 777Fs. Also 12 UFO and 4 737s for ANA as well. I guess the 4 for ANA are NGs?
90 KarelXWB : Oh yes, how could I forget those.
91 7BOEING7 : A meaningless record.
92 Post contains links queb : Air Transat? http://www.newswire.ca/fr/story/1140...ize-medium-haul-operations-in-2014
93 KarelXWB : No, Boeing tweeted: "Russia's Sberbank orders 12 #Boeing 737-800s for leasing subsidiary, to be operated by Transaero."
94 817Dreamliiner : Actually, No... Of all people, Boeing just tweeted that 12 737s were ordered by Sberbank to be operated by Transaero. New order that just happen to b
95 queb : Are you sure it's the same order?
96 col : Why is it meaningless. Have they delivered that many before, or do you expect them to break it later, say next month? Well done Airbus, and I am sure
97 7BOEING7 : Deliveries and sales over a month time frame is too short a sample. The first time you make a new # airplanes per month -- it's a record, the first t
98 col : Airbus 13 deliveries is going to be down to Airline delivery requirements. Production makes those frames available when they are needed. Works same f
99 phxa340 : Please stop derailing this thread and stick to Airbus and Boeing orders ....
100 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Let's see if I can do that. . . Details of the first 3 months: Airbus Orders Air Lease Corp. - 14 A321neo, 20 A350-900 & 5 A350-1000 American Air
101 Post contains images someone83 : Thanks for the overview ahamlet69
102 someone83 : Identified in this weeks update, i.e, the 14 can now be split into: Sberbank - 12 737-800 (for Transaero) Unidentified - 2 737-800
103 Post contains links KarelXWB : The Airbus TK order will be firmed today. "Today our CEO Fabrice Brégier is in Istanbul signing the purchase order for up to 117 #A320 Family aircraf
104 Post contains images KarelXWB : And the deal is sealed.
105 chiad : Excellent!
106 Post contains links KarelXWB : Boeing sold 50 737 Max aircraft to an unidentified customer. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm[Edited 2013-04-25 13:14:51]
107 Post contains links scbriml : China buys 18 A330 and 42 A320s. http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/press...s-gta-with-airbus-for-60-aircraft/
108 Post contains links Someone83 : Although in the MoU/Commitments category: 6 A330-300 and 4 A350-900 for SriLankan http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/sri...-10-airbus-aircraft-213911463
109 PM : What happened to the A330(s?) they were meant to be getting a couple of years back?
110 someone83 : Boeing's weekly orders overview is showing one order for a 777BBJ and five 747s cancellations
111 fun2fly : I guess that's part of the 1.5 per month production cut. Who's frames?
112 KarelXWB : Boeing confirms Dubai Aerospace Enterprise has canceled the last five of its 747-8Fs on order.[Edited 2013-05-02 10:34:15]
113 rotating14 : It's the end of an era gentlemen .... it like watching a whale drowning in a fisherman's net. Sad.
114 7BOEING7 : Based on DAE's other cancellations I think Boeing has been expecting this for quite some time. One could of said that back in 1984 when only 16 were
115 KarelXWB : Airbus booked 83 orders last month.
116 chiad : Net orders so far for 2013 - 493. 202 deliveries. No A380 delivered in April.
117 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Tiger Airways Places order for 38 Airbus A320 Aircraft http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...r-airways-places-order-for-38.html A few more and the A3
118 mjoelnir : Deliveries of A330 over in Q1 were also a record with 26 and you can not say that this were frames not delivered in 2012, as deliveries of A330 durin
119 KarelXWB : And another 13 in April.
120 sirtoby : Not sure if this is a new order for 38 aircraft. Tiger has an existing backlog of 24 A320 and Mandala another 25.
121 mjoelnir : Are you talking of backlog or free slots? I thought the backlog is growing not down to 100 frames.
122 KarelXWB : Ehh sorry, free slots indeed.
123 Post contains links sirtoby : According to german news magazine FOCUS Air China will buy 100 Airbus aircraft. No further information though... http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/wi.
124 Cerecl : Google translate seems to suggest that the report mentioned that CA planed to expand their Airbus fleet to 100 rather than buying 100 Airbus aircraft
125 sirtoby : The translation is wrong. The article says that 100 Airbus aircraft will be added to the fleet. Also Air China will offload 6 A340's.
126 Cerecl : The A340 part was known. However, the Airbus fleet of CA are generally fairly young. Another 100 Airbus? Addendum: Confirmed by a Chinese news source
127 Post contains links KarelXWB : Emirates may have a nice surprise for the Dubai Airshow later this year. http://www.aero.de/news-17423/Emirat...n-Mega-Auftrag-fuer-Airbus-an.html
128 Post contains links sirtoby : Another source: http://www.4-traders.com/AIR-CHINA-L...100-Aircraft-from-Airbus-16831128/ Don't know where the 70 orders from China Eastern and China
129 scouseflyer : Is that another 30 A380 ?
130 sirtoby : Yes!
131 Post contains images frigatebird : Hmm, hardly a suprise, 30 more A380's Unless it will be -900s The real question will be: will EK officially kick-off the 777-9 launch with an order o
132 Post contains links KarelXWB : 5 new Boeing orders: 1 77W for KL, 2 77W and 2 737 for an unidentified customer. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
133 KarelXWB : Looks like Jet Airways is behind the order of 50 737 Max aircraft: - The Mumbai-based airline has placed an order last month for 50 of Boeing's newes
134 Post contains images KarelXWB : About that possible JL A350 order, French president Hollande is scheduled to visit Japan from 6 to 8 June
135 kanban : we have strived to keep this thread to actual sales confirmed by the manufacturers.. and speculation posts should be diverted to separate threads. ot
136 Post contains images KarelXWB : Ok, fair enough
137 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : It looks like it belongs to Turkish Airlines http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2675
138 someone83 : No, this one was a commitment/MoU announced last month. The 50 UFOs in Boeings spreadsheet is another firm order the way I understand it
139 Post contains links KarelXWB : That's how I understand it too. The TK order is the MoU from April 9, see http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2646
140 sirtoby : My guess is that the UFO order is firm Jet Airways.
141 Post contains images KarelXWB : Like said in reply #133
142 817Dreamliiner : Sorry, you're right, I forgot about the Jet Airways order. My mistake.
143 Post contains links KarelXWB : Boeing and Southwest Airlines are launching the 737 Max 7; Southwest converts its existing 30 NG 737 orders to 737 Max 7s. http://boeing.mediaroom.com
144 817Dreamliiner : Good to see the MAX 7 finally getting an order, hopefully more will follow. Total MAX orders now at 1315[Edited 2013-05-15 08:43:03]
145 SEPilot : I guess that means that WN is not going to go to the 738 as its standard size.
146 Stitch : 30 frames is less than 10% of their 737-700 fleet, to say nothing of their 737-300+737-700 fleet, so perhaps WN still has missions that cannot justif
147 Post contains links rotating14 : I saw on Wiki that Boeing has 36 773-ER and 10 772 freighters for an unidentified customer?? Am I late on this or is this new?? http://en.wikipedia.or
148 Stitch : That is the total for all UFOs, so it is for multiple unidentified customers. That being said, 30 of the 77W were ordered on 17 December 2012 and 8 o
149 SEPilot : That seems to be the case; also WN has so many 737-700's that phasing them out would take a long time anyway. But I thought perhaps that they would o
150 Someone83 : Three additional A330-300 for Oman, although haven't seen anything about delivery time
151 Post contains links kanban : Boeing sales 6 777 to Swiss 101 737 to unidentified minus 24 737 cust not specified http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
152 queb : there are 61 MAX a/c among the 101 737 https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/status/337596439700054018[Edited 2013-05-23 09:24:58]
153 Post contains links rotating14 : http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/05/...der-book-747-tally-still-negative/ I know that the 5 747-8's were from Dubai but who cancelled the 8 777's. Im
154 Post contains links scbriml : Air China & Shenzhen to buy 100 A320s (both ceos and neos). Not confirmed by Airbus yet, so may only be MoU at the moment. To be firmed at Paris?
155 Stitch : CX cancelled 8 777 freighters, which went to CA. CA cancelled 3 747-8 freighters, which went to CX. So Air China Cargo and Cathay Pacific Cargo effec
156 Someone83 : No changes in Boeing's orderbooks this week Next week Airbus will have their monthly update, and I'll guess we'll see quite a few new firmed orders
157 Post contains links KarelXWB : Oman Air has ordered five Boeing 737-900ER aircraft: http://atwonline.com/airframes/oman-air-orders-five-boeing-737-900ers
158 KarelXWB : It was a quit month, Airbus only booked 3 orders for easyJet in May. Also 3 cancellations: Tunisair abandoned their order for 3 A358 aircraft. Surpris
159 Post contains images PM : I suspect June may be somewhat busier...
160 Someone83 : 7 737s UFOs for Boeing this week. In addition to numerous convertions
161 kanban : somebody used to do a beautiful summary of sales, cancellations, and model changes.. It would be nice to see that updated before the air show
162 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Oh, he's still around. Unfortunately, real life has gotten more and more in the way of his hobby. I'll be out of town this weekend, but will try to g
163 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Okay, Boeing updates since April 1st are done: Boeing Orders Air Lease Corp. - 5 737-MAX & 10 777-300ER All Nippon Airways - 4 737-800 American Ai
164 karan69 : Thanks again Hamlet, I assume you will put up one final tally of both before the Paris Air Show by the end of this week? Karan
165 Post contains links KL577 : AF-KL is going firm up their order A350s at Le Bourget (25 firm orders +35 options) http://www.beursgorilla.nl/nieuws-item.asp?Story_ID=580904 http://
166 Post contains links PM : From http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...bus-a350-au-salon-du-bourget-.html "En effet, General Electric, le motoriste du B787 a été beaucoup plus
167 Post contains images frigatebird : I wasn't completely sure about it either. The article says AF/KL have reached a compromise with RR. Perhaps it means AF/KL didn't completely get what
168 kanban : let's keep the tread on track with reported actual sales only... not speculations
169 Hamlet69 : Karan, Unlikely. Once I get the Airbus update posted here in a few minutes, there is unlikely to be anything significant to change until both OEM's up
170 Hamlet69 : And finally, here is the Airbus updates for the last two months: Airbus Orders * Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A319CJ Air Lease Corp. - 14 A321neo, 20 A35
171 Post contains images Someone83 : Thank you Hamlet69
172 ZKCIF : By the way, In Airbus changes category, 58 changes are to bigger models and only 10 to smaller ones. Thank You, Hamlet69!
173 PanAm_DC10 : Great summary as always thank you Hamlet69. To add from day one at Le Bourget; For Airbus; - Doric Lease Corp’s Memorandum of Understanding to acqui
174 Stitch : And to add from Day Two: Boeing Korean Air commits to five 747-8 Intercontinentals and 6 777-300ERs United Airlines commits to 20 787-10 (of which 5
175 Stitch : Addedum - United converted 10 previous 787 orders to the 787-10.
176 PanAm_DC10 : An update with the announcements made at Le Bourget so far; Airbus - Doric Lease Corp’s Memorandum of Understanding to acquire 20 A380s - Lufthansa
177 mffoda : Yes, I believe UA converted 10 not 5. And ALC also added 3 789's.
178 someone83 : The following was firmed in Boeing O/D spreadsheet this week Singapore Airlines: 30 787-10 United: 10 787-10 Ryanair: 175 737-800 CIT: 30 737-800 UFO:
179 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : Nepal Airlines has confirmed it´s MoU for 2 A320-200: http://ekantipur.com/2013/06/28/busi...aft-purchase-agreement/373996.html
180 someone83 : No listed as firm under Qatar
181 Post contains links rotating14 : Yes it is. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
182 Post contains images someone83 : I meant now.....but the w never made it
183 Post contains links KarelXWB : Firmed now: http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...up-two-airbus-a320-with-sharklets/
184 ncfc99 : There was the UA order conversion, now 35 x A35J on order.
185 Flying-Tiger : Airbus has just released their figures, here we go: ILFC - 50 A320 Lufthansa - 65 A320 + 35 A321 Air France / KLM - 25 A350-900 SriLankan - 6 A330-300
186 PM : So the Sri Lankan A350s aren't firm yet but the A330s are? And the Oman Air A330s aren't firm yet either? I've no doubt these orders will come through
187 KarelXWB : Correct, these will be firmed later this year. Also correct, but I noticed the first assembly slot is already assigned (MSN 1572) so the order will b
188 astuteman : And passed a BACKLOG of 5 000 frames in the process (5 109 - including over 4 000 A320's), which quite frankly beggars belief, especially when added
189 Stitch : They were all clearly born, as they entered service with customers. They just suffered from the aircraft equivalent of SIDS.
190 someone83 : Boeing's update this week shows two more 737 for UA, four UFO 737 identified as UAs, so total six more. In addition two 737s is listed as cancelled
191 kogge : They were already booked in December 2012 as UFOs. And moved from UFO to Oman Air two month ago.
192 PM : Ah. Interesting. Thanks.
193 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : Syphax has confirmed its order for 3 A320ceo and 3 A320no, engines are the CFMs: http://money.msn.com/business-news/a...feed=OBR&date=20130704&
194 Post contains links KarelXWB : Press release here: http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...ers-the-a320neo-and-the-a320ceo-1/
195 Post contains links fun2fly : UA topped up the 739 order by 6 units...4 unidentified and 2 new. Finalized 787 order is: 21 788's 24 789's 20 787-10's http://active.boeing.com/comme
196 Post contains images chiad : Hey hey ... first NEO order from Africa! Flood ... that will look good on you map. The missing piece.[Edited 2013-07-04 10:18:24]
197 Hamlet69 : Updates thru June 30: Boeing Orders Air Lease Corp. - 5 737-MAX & 10 777-300ER All Nippon Airways - 4 737-800 American Airlines - 100 737-MAX, 1 7
198 Post contains images flood : Thanks for your your updates, Hamlet. Not sure where you're seeing this. QF's order has remained unchanged at 14 since they announced the cancellation
199 Post contains links KarelXWB : The shareholders of Tui Travel have approved the order for 60 737 Max. The firm order should follow soon. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ders-
200 Post contains links Someone83 : Easyjet's shareholders has approved the purchase for 35 A320 and 100 A320NEOs and Airbus has now firmed the order http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr
201 Post contains links KarelXWB : Silk Way orders 2 747-8F aircraft. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2740
202 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : And here it is: http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm flood, you have some work to do [Edited 2013-07-11 08:12:49]
203 Post contains links solnabo : EzyJet firms up order for 135 A320s:
204 817Dreamliiner : 5 unidentified order were booked as well: 4 737s and 1 787
205 Post contains links KarelXWB : Airbus raises 2013 order target to over 1,000 jets: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/...3-order-target-to-over-1-000-jets/
206 chiad : No wonder. With the big orders for July (Kuwait 25 frames, and EasyJet 135) net orders should be just shy of 900. With still 5 months to go 1200 orde
207 Post contains links KarelXWB : SriLankan firms up an order for 4 A350 aircraft. http://twitter.com/Airbus/status/359279946952212480
208 Post contains links KarelXWB : And 5 more 77W aircraft for TK: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2744
209 Post contains images chiad : Thanks for all the updates.
210 bmibaby737 : Boeing's site shows these as 30 737-700 cancelled, and 30 737-7MAX added. The way they've done it would appear they're new orders, but Southwest Airl
211 Post contains links KarelXWB : Conviasa said it was agreed to purchase three A330 aircraft. Article in Spanish: http://www.avn.info.ve/contenido/ali...-sector-aeron%C3%A1utico-venez
212 Someone83 : Listed as firm on Boeing weekly order update. No other changes this week
213 Post contains links KarelXWB : ANA has placed orders for three Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and a single 767-300 freighter. http://pro.flightglobal.com/news/art...ys-orders-three-777-3
214 Post contains links Aircellist : Has the TK firming of 3 A333 been noted yet? http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nes-firms-three-more-a330s-388896/
215 PanAm_DC10 : The Boeing weekly update reflects the 3 77Ws but not the 767F. Additionally 737 net orders were reduced by 2. A press release was also issued for the
216 sunking737 : How do I find out about 737-800 delivery's in Nov. & Dec of this year. ??
217 Post contains links KarelXWB : Did you mean the last year? If so, you can go to http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527
218 sunking737 : No this year 2013. SY is getting 2 new 737-800 IIRC from ILFC. These will be their first with the Sky interior. I have not heard a delivery date.
219 Post contains links india1 : Their July figures are out... http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/ Easy Jet, Syphax, Nepal Airlines, ILFC, CIT fo
220 Post contains images astuteman : A backlog of 5 227 aircraft ...... At nearly 600 frames a year that's approaching 9 years worth of output Astonishing. Particularly the A320 backlog
221 Post contains links KarelXWB : Jet Airways, the Indian airline in which Abu Dhabi’s Etihad Airways recently acquired a 24 percent stake, has reportedly placed an order with Boeing
222 tortugamon : Isn't this the same order that was reported/identified two months ago (Reply #133)? We are expecting another 50 orders for NEOs as well? tortugamon
223 KarelXWB : It could be one of those 200 unidentified customer orders indeed. Guess we'll find out soon.
224 n1786b : And at Boeing it is Total Unfilled Orders is at 4757 airframes and a 737 backlog of 3445
225 KarelXWB : To be more precise: > CIT: 3x A319 & 5x A321 > easyJet: 35x A320 & 100x A320neo > ILFC: 15x A321 > Nepal Airlines: 2x A320 > P
226 astuteman : I know. Amazing isn't it? Some 10 000 large aircraft now in backlog between the two manufacturers. It beggars belief IMO The interesting thing to wat
227 kogge : I have a feeling that these are part of the 130 A32Xceo for American Airlines, which dont show up in the Airbus spreadsheet. Somehow Airbus has to "d
228 KarelXWB : That's entirely possible. In that case, expect more lessor sales in the coming months.
229 Aircellist : Interesting indeed. In fact, their present backlog is almost at the level of their cumulative orders at the end of 2004, not yet nine years ago. Thei
230 chiad : 892 net order for the first 7 months. Very impressive. The Dubai Airshow in October will clearly see the 1000 net orders mark be crossed. However the
231 KarelXWB : Indeed, 2011 was an exceptional sales year due to the A320neo.
232 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : Travel Services firms 3 B737-8MAX: http://www.afm.aero/news/item/903-travel-service-firms-max-order
233 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Confirmed by Boeing: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2756 [Edited 2013-08-07 09:50:49]
234 agill : Was thinking the same thing. Pretty soon all available delivery slots must be sold out.
235 Post contains links KarelXWB : Boeing's weekly update is online: > 3x 737 for Travel Service > 13x 737 for the United States Navy > 1x 787 cancellation http://active.boeing
236 wingman : I haven't seen the full YTD breakdowns by OEM, model, gross, net etc. that Hamlet does in a while but is it safe to say that the major difference in t
237 scouseflyer : and in 2009 it was protrayed by many on here as the end of Airbus' world that the backlog had shrunk! Basically what will happen is that they will ha
238 goosebayguy : Consider this. If the life cycle of an airframe is 20 years and we currently have a backlog of 9 years for a new delivery. What happens if the backlog
239 kanban : this may be already happening as the backlog seldom uses 100% of production capacity. Airlines generally order a delivery range say 10 to 12 years on
240 Post contains links flood : Boeing booked 4 MAX from an undisclosed customer on July 4th, bringing total MAX firm orders to 1498. The only changes in Boeing's order spreadsheet t
241 Someone83 : So can we assume the deposit for the cancelled 787 went to the three 737s ordered?
242 SEPilot : I think things will start breaking down long before that happens. Neither the airlines nor the manufacturers can predict what will happen that far ou
243 Post contains images KarelXWB : No surprise here. Hell must freeze over before SQ select GE. The 78J will also get RR as reported in the order press release.
244 col : Last time I checked SQ had 100% GE engines on their 77W, unless those tricky buggers changed them to Rollers without telling anyone!!
245 scbriml : Have they ever selected GE over RR when a choice was available?
246 mjoelnir : As good a reason to stay with A 350 only and forget about the B 777-X.
247 KarelXWB : The 77W is only available with GE engines so no choose here. Their 777-300 non-ER's however have Trent engines. It's easy math, Rolls-Royce has a big
248 Post contains images col : Come on Guys, Brits and Dutch have the best sense of humor in Europe, don't tell me you missed the joke. Mind you SQ could have gone with the 346 and
249 Post contains links jetblueguy22 : Hello All, Part 1 has become quite long so Part 2 has been created in order to continue the conversation. Part 2 can be found here Airbus And Boeing O
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