kamboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13019 times:
A supervisor in San Francisco has proposed the renaming of SFO to Harvey Milk International. See link here. This is total nonsense. he already has schools and other monuments named after him. Let it go already.
sdoyon From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12890 times:
I guess I really don't see the issue. If this does pass, It'll probably be San Francisco/Harvey Milk International Airport. The code will be the same old SFO. Planes will still take off and land (except in the crippling fog...) and people will still use the airport.
Do you have this same issue with BWI, LIT, DCA, SNA, and OKC?
USAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1845 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12679 times:
Quoting ytib (Reply 6): Name a large international airport after a sport the majority of the world doesn't follow or have interest. GENIUS!
While I think naming an airport for a sports team is ridiculous, your logic says that ATL should be named for a world figure, instead of two former mayors of the city. After all, the majority of world doesn't know or care who the mayor of Atlanta is.
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12500 times:
Quoting kamboi (Thread starter): A supervisor in San Francisco has proposed the renaming of SFO to Harvey Milk International. See link here. This is total nonsense. he already has schools and other monuments named after him. Let it go already.
I do not see anything wrong with the name change. There is a long history of naming city infrastructure after city political figures. Harvey Milk has an Oscar winning documentary about him and Sean Penn won an Oscar playing him in a feature biopic so he is certainly one of the better known if briefly serving San Francisco politicians. Would you rather have it named after George Moscone, Diane Feinstein, Willie Brown, Gavin Newsome, or Ed Lee? How about Emperor Norton?
UA735WL From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12378 times:
With Bay Area politics being the way that they are, I'd be surprised if this DIDN'T happen. Anyone who supports this will be praised lavishly for their progressiveness; anyone who opposes gets labeled as a bigot. If this does end up happening, it will be because it is politically correct. Don't get me wrong; I respect Harvey Milk and his contributions towards equality. But seriously... what's wrong with the existing name?
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Who are they forcing their stigma on ? Themselves and their airport ? SFO wants to name their airport after a gay dude - this is as shocking as WN ordering more 737s. No one is forcing anything on you - you can keep calling it SFO.
sdoyon From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12315 times:
Quoting N766UA (Reply 11): A guy who wouldn't be known as anyone special if he wasn't a: gay and b: portrayed in a movie.
A man who was and is still known as being one of the pioneers of gay rights in the United States. That's pretty special.
Again, I really don't see the issue. We have John Wayne Airport, Will Rogers World Airport, and Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport, to name a few. Tons of airports have names. This is a complete non-issue.
mesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2949 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12315 times:
Personally, I think Dedicating an airport to somebody is fine, but I don't get why an airport needs to be named after somebody? I can only see if there are more than one airport serving an area, such as JFK and LGA, or IAH and HOU. Other than that, I really don't see the need. Now eveybody will say "we're flying into Harvey Milk", instead of "San Fransisco". It'll get too confusing in the beginning.
Also, it's sad to say, but how many anti-gay activists are going to fight this?
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LoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3811 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12264 times:
How about just naming the terminal after him, rather than the whole airport? In my city, we have Austin Bergstrom International Airport, but your plane departs from the Barbara Jordan Terminal (named after a US Congresswoman from Austin.)
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12252 times:
Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 21): I think Dedicating an airport to somebody is fine, but I don't get why an airport needs to be named after somebody?
I knew Harvey, and even I wouldn't want this renaming to go through. Name a terminal after him if it's that important to some people, not the entire airport. SFO is San Francisco's airport—it should remain San Francisco International as it is.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12246 times:
Quoting phxa340 (Reply 17): Who are they forcing their stigma on ? Themselves and their airport ? SFO wants to name their airport after a gay dude - this is as shocking as WN ordering more 737s. No one is forcing anything on you - you can keep calling it SFO.
Meh, I guess I don't have a good reason to oppose it. It just seems cliche. Hey look, SFO is flaunting being gay again. It's like EWR naming itself "Vinny Boom Batts International."
Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 21): Also, it's sad to say, but how many anti-gay activists are going to fight this?
I'd hope zero. The issue is not that he was gay, the issue (imo) is that he had nothing to do with aviation and seems like he was only chosen because the city wants to represent itself a certain way. Is there anything wrong with that? No, not really, but it would annoy me if I lived there.
Are the locals going to start saying "I'm catching a flight from Milk" in the same way that new englanders say Logan?
Quoting UA735WL (Reply 16): If this does end up happening, it will be because it is politically correct
Nailed it. That's why it's weird, because it feels forced.
stevemchey From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12360 times:
Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 18): They can always name a terminal or something after this man. He has many things named after him already so let's leave SFO as SFO
Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 21): Now eveybody will say "we're flying into Harvey Milk", instead of "San Fransisco".
I don't think you understand the way "naming an airport" works. Nothing changes about the the airport code, or the way the flight is announced. It just means that the airport's name will be SFO - "San Francisco - Harvey Milk - International Airport. Just like SJC - "Mineta San José International Airport" or BWI - "Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport"
: I totally agree that Harvey Milk International Airport is completely unnecessary. We'd all much rather see Dianne Feinstein International. Love, Me.[E
: I prefer naming airports for people who had something to do with aviation, though I suppose naming them for presidents is okay. Why not do something l
: Us gays see him in a different light, when you're in a minority like that, he was a proper stand up guy in a more ignorant age. It would make very li
: I do understand how naming an airport works and my original point stands. By that I mean San Francisco International Airport.
: Here's a proper link to the news item about this, the one in the OP doesn't seem to work: http://www.sfgate.com/default/articl...ll-naming-SFO-for-Mil
: Fair enough, I guess. I guess I just don't see it "correctly?" I've never understood either side, and I mean, honestly, why say "us gays?" Aren't gay
: Mods: Prepare a thread lock! We've wandered way off topic.
: While I certainly understand why Harvey Milk has received so much posthumous attention, it has always irked me that often George Moscone's place in h
: None of them. Lerave as is. I like SFO.
: I see your Dianne Feinstein and raise you a Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence! It's also comforting to know that my views on airport renaming haven't c
: I see this as no different that naming an airport after Martin Luther King, Jr. (as far as I know, there is a terminal at ATL named after him, but no
: Dan White murdered Moscone and Milk because of political differences and perceived betrayal. Most of us alive at the time understand that. Harvey has
: I wonder how long it will be before the airport systems start selling the naming rights to airport names just like sport stadiums do? I definitely did
: I was alive at the time, and a freshman at Cal. And that's not how I understood it. And I'm not gay. The link you provided just gives the vision of W
: This is about as dumb as renaming LIT to Billary Airport
: I believe this is in some part related to Moscone also having some more questionable dealings - specifically, his association with the Peoples Temple
: No, they should name it after GW Bush.
: Hobby is already named after Hobby. SFO has no "namesake." Otherwise, it's a great idea.
: History is history. Despite other differences, Moscone and Milk were targeted that day mainly over Moscone's refusal to re-appoint White to the Board
: I personally like the Emperor Norton suggestion from AADC10. It would puzzle most people and it's such a bizzare idea that it somehow totally fits San
: Clint Eastwood was born in San Francisco. He would beat the crap out of Harvey Milk. Vote here for Clint Eastwood International Airport!
: Your right , lets go back to the 1940s, the good ole times. Grow up man.
: It seems to matter to more people nowadays, once people come out, the majority come to realise there are more of us than some people thought. As a Lo
: What's wrong with that?? First President from Arkansas, (and one of the best presidents, although I do say so myself). Wife was very successful Senat
: I'd say this is a sensible choice to expand the San Francisco 'brand'. Obviously there's always some reaction to these sorts of things, but there appe
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: So if you're all about calling for this based solely on exhibiting a "decent statement of values," why aren't you calling for it to be named Rosa Par
: B787 problems? Whatever. Only matters to .0001% of the population. About 6,000 to 7,000 people -- who happens to be working on 787s, flying on them e
: What a stupid thing to say. He was the first gay politician elected to major office. And was shot because of it. He is a hero to our community.[Edite
: An interesting point, but Rosa Parks is a figure fromAlabama, not California. Renaming MGM after Rosa Parks would make sense. Renaming SFO does not.
: If you're into that kind of thing, wouldn't renaming MRY be a better choice for the former mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea? Not sure I follow you on this.
: One more airport named after a politician in the US: McCarran International (LAS). He did sponsor some aviation legislation but he is really remembere
: If I had to bet on an airport being named Milk International I would have guessed an airport in Wisconsin, or maybe KTMK.
: Excuse me.....But we delay flights here when it's sunny too!
: Orange County Airport was renamed John Wayne Airport.
: This thread is way off topic and not much of anything meaningful has been said in many of the posts. With our delete suggestions queue overflowing I f
: How about we settle on the Jerry Garcia San Francisco Psychedelic International Airport. And then add one jumbotron Destinations monitor in every term
: My vote is to go back to Friendship International Airport -AND- go back to BAL as the city code. If it was good enough for James Bond, It's good enou
: How about Abraham Lincoln International Airport. I always thought there should be a major US airport named after Honest Abe. Although he didn't have t
: When I first opened this thread I expected to see Pelosi or Feinstein. Just imagine it.... THE Nancy Pelosi International Airport. But seriously, I wo