MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8 Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4799 times:
Egyptair has announced that it will be starting Toronto along with Manchester and Harare ( Zimbabwe ). Starting June 1st , the Airline will start 4 weekly flights between Cairo and Toronto using their newest B777-300 ER .
Flight number: 995/996
Operating days from Cairo: Monday, Wednesday, Friday & Sunday
Operating days from Toronto: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4602 times:
No words yet about Washington , they used to serve Harare before but never Luanda . On a side note , According to statistics released by the Ministry of Tourism, the number of travelers reaching Egypt from Canada increased 3.5% from the period between January and October 2012, compared to the same period in 2011, from 41,000 to 42,600.
ETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 774 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4559 times:
CONGRATS to MS. This plan is a couple of years old. The Arab spring derailed it, but only temporarily, until now.
Quoting MSYYZ (Thread starter): the Airline will start 4 weekly flights between Cairo and Toronto using their newest B777-300 ER .
Wow, that's quite some capacity. 1388 seats/week.
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 1): Because both MS and AC are in Star Alliance, one could expect the MS flight will bear AC code-share.
I am not sure. They may choose to still codeshare via FRA, MUC or LHR as they do today with LH (FRA and MUC) and MS (LHR) since they will still get to fly the transatlantic segment on their own metal. Remains to be seen...
When did MS fly to YUL and with what equipment? I recall seeing some interesting aircraft at YUL over the past 10 years, but don't recall seeing MS. Have they been around in the Canadian market for a while?
From 2001 to around 2009. When they started it was a tag-on twice a week from JFK, but later became nonstop YUL-CAI. I think it was year-round the first year but from then on I think it became a seasonal service. All the A.net photos of MS at YUL are between May and September except those dated 2001.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26861 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3411 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13): Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 10):
ADD-YYZ is probably a larger O&D market...
Actually CAI is significantly larger local market from YYZ versus ADD.
However neither one is something I would describe as even being close to a big market. There are many larger unserved markets from Toronto including points in India, Sri Lanka, Iran, Lebanon, etc
I expect a major market will be connecting traffic to/from BEY. Ontario accounts for the largest proportion of the Lebanese community in Canada (about 40%) although when looking only at individual cities YUL has a larger community than YYZ.
Yep, TK and MS already do very well out of the Lebanese market. A bit miffed that MEA is *still*
unable to secure authorisation to serve North America when countries like Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia
and Pakistan are able to do so. Still, atleast the Lebanese have lots of choices, even though they do
still need to make connections across Europe or the Levante
Kaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3314 posts, RR: 38
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3010 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14): I expect a major market will be connecting traffic to/from BEY. Ontario accounts for the largest proportion of the Lebanese community in Canada (about 40%) although when looking only at individual cities YUL has a larger community than YYZ.
YOW also has a significant Lebanese community for whom YUL is much closer than YYZ.
raffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1733 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2817 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 21): Lebanon can join the club too if they like, whats keeping it out?
What plan pre 9/11? Air Canada announced the launch of Montreal-Beirut flights in 2003 and the US
government urged the Canadian government to withdraw the rights 24 hours before the first flight
despite there being advanced booking for months ahead.
ME used to serve New York 3 x weekly but the rights were withdrawn in the 1980s after a Palestinian
woman drove a truck into the US embassy in Beirut.
777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 7015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2769 times:
The you are with us or against us threat was due to 9/11, US has strategic ties with these countries dating back to 1980s and earlier, not due to or post 9/11, dont you think US coudl have banned all these carriers from flying to their country but they didnt, must be some reason that Lebanon does not fit in at the moment that its being treated differently ever since.
Lebanon can get Boeings and US/Canada routes by playing into US hands as the other states are, join the club was meant to refer to that.
pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2346 posts, RR: 12
Reply 25, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2315 times:
There might be a minimal impact on ET for people connecting on to other African locations. The passenger will migrate to whoever is cheapest and has the best connections on to where they are going. I would think that MS will have an advantage for other Arab and south Mediterranean destinations over ET, but I doubt people would be flying to those locations anyways using ET.