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Southern Air Leases Ex-Jade 744ERF  
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

I wonder if they are going to take more of the parked Jade Cargo fleet now that they have retired all 742Fs. So far their 744 fleet is from a mishmash of sources (a single 744ERF plus 3 BDSFs from 3 different airlines with two different engine types).

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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

No one knows anything about further plans of Southern Air?

User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

They are playing their cards. The hope is that a competitor who is having issues will fold, and put
them in a better position......



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7303 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

The jade 744's were parked in Shenzhen and Shanghai and haven't flown for just under 13 months - hopefully the damp humid maritime conditions didn't damage the aircraft.


The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineHumanitarian From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

The three Jade aircraft in China are owned by the Govt. The other three in the US are owned by leasing companies and I guess one of those went to Southern.

User currently offlineJarradS From Australia, joined Dec 2012, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
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Quoting na (Reply 1):

Should've put "AA new livery" in the title...


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Quoting JarradS (Reply 5):
Should've put "AA new livery" in the title...

  Obviously.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7303 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

I thought they were partly owned by Shenzhen air rather than the government!

Anyway, maybe we have our own private AA livery on a ERF thread just here.



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User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Quoting JarradS (Reply 5):
Should've put "AA new livery" in the title...

  



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 7):

I thought they were partly owned by Shenzhen air rather than the government!

51% of Jade Cargo was owned by Shenzhen Airlines, not necessarily the airplanes. If the government would own them they would have transferred them to Air China Cargo I would suppose. They could replace older BCFs there if the capacity would have been too much.


User currently offlineHumanitarian From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

In China the govt pretty much owns and/or controls many business assets that are not owned by foreigners. I am told a State owned asset is unlikely to be leased out and registered to a foreign entity outside China. Why they haven't put the Jade aircraft to use in China is unclear at this time - they may be tied up in red tape or lack of business.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 2):

I think you're correct. We need to see what happens to Evergreen .



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User currently onlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

I don't know if flight crews are part of this latest furlough but this can't be conducive to fleet fleet growth.

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/N...pares-to-cut-up-to-120-4207017.php



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

One thing for certain is Southern is still in Chapter 11 and though I have no first hand knowledge, must be fighting for its survival. They cannot stay in Chapter 11 forever and their operation must be able to generate cash plus will require exit financing to get out. Part of a restructuring unfortunately is laying-off some employees and have reduced some cost by replacing the 742Fs with 744Fs. I am intrigued by the article stating they have a plan to relocate certain operations. Does anyone know if they plan to leave Norwalk?

Looks like I just answered my own question. I looked at their website and appears they are moving to Cincinnati as all their open jobs are for there.

[Edited 2013-01-20 18:51:24]


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