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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13503 times:

How about a little hockey charter thread to take our mind off the new AA livery?

After some delay, the NHL season finally starts tomorrow!

Got only a few confirmed so post up what you know.




Carolina Hurricanes --- ACA 7033 or 7034

Chicago Blackhawks --- SWQ 737 or 801 or 802

Columbus Blue Jackets --- private DC93 N697BJ

Detroit Red Wings --- private MD81 N682RW

New York Rangers --- private 737 N37NY (blocked from tracking)

Ottawa Senators --- ACA 7047 or 7048

Phoenix Coyotes --- private 727 N698SS (blocked from tracking)

Pittsburgh Penguins --- BSK 392

San Jose Sharks --- Fry's Electronics 727 N724YS or 747SP N747A (both blocked)

Washington Capitals --- ACA 7021 or 7022


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7752 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13517 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Thread starter):
Phoenix Coyotes --- private 727 N698SS (blocked from tracking)

Their 727 is always visible at cutter with their howling coyote logo on the tail, and usually returns in the afternoon the day after the game but may come back late tomorrow night because of the home game Sunday. I've only seen it land twice, out of pure luck of the draw. Sucks that we can't track it.



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13466 times:

I read where Tom Hicks is no longer operating N757SS so not sure what the Dallas Stars will be using this year.

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User currently offlinen801dm From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 103 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13419 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 2):

I read where Tom Hicks is no longer operating N757SS so not sure what the Dallas Stars will be using this year.

Dallas Stars are flying for second season on MLW Air 767. Flight track SWQ767



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User currently offlineStackhouse007 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 420 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13357 times:
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Just curious, why would Carolina, Ottawa, and Washington all use Air Canada?


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 13223 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Thread starter):
Carolina Hurricanes --- ACA 7033 or 7034

Chicago Blackhawks --- SWQ 737 or 801 or 802

Columbus Blue Jackets --- private DC93 N697BJ

Detroit Red Wings --- private MD81 N682RW

New York Rangers --- private 737 N37NY (blocked from tracking)

Ottawa Senators --- ACA 7047 or 7048

Phoenix Coyotes --- private 727 N698SS (blocked from tracking)

Pittsburgh Penguins --- BSK 392

San Jose Sharks --- Fry's Electronics 727 N724YS or 747SP N747A (both blocked)

Washington Capitals --- ACA 7021 or 7022

Are you sure about San Jose flying on a 747SP?
Too bad the Redwings don't have the MD-81 painted up with logos like the old DC-9-50, new MD-81 looks kind of generic and I assume it too is blocked from tracking.

I didn't think any of the teams still had their 727s - thought I heard Phoenix got rid of theirs too.

I think a lot of NHL teams still charter Delta too. I know when Tigers are in post season and Redwings are starting their season while Tigers are away and Redwings need to travel they end up using Delta (used to use Northwest) and vice versa in spring when Redwings are away on post season and Tigers need a plane.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 13203 times:

Quoting Stackhouse007 (Reply 4):
Just curious, why would Carolina, Ottawa, and Washington all use Air Canada?

Why not? Probably a combination of price and service. AC has years of experience in that market with their dedicated AC Jetz fleet.


User currently offlinen53614 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 13185 times:

Fry's 747SP is (and has been) the backup jet for the Sharks. I heard that if the Sharks make it to the Stanley Cup Finals, they'll use the SP.

I hope to catch some NHL charters at SJC this year, especially the Coyotes 727.



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 13139 times:

Got a few more.....

Anaheim Ducks --- ACA 7019 or 7020

Colorado Avalanche --- ACA 7015 or 7016

Dallas Stars --- SWQ 767

Toronto Maple Leafs --- ACA 7045 or 7046

Quoting Stackhouse007 (Reply 4):
Just curious, why would Carolina, Ottawa, and Washington all use Air Canada?

All Canadian teams should be on AC Jetz, now add Colorado and Anaheim Ducks to the mix.
Last year, NJ Devils and LA Kings also on AC.

Quoting n801dm (Reply 3):
Dallas Stars are flying for second season on MLW Air 767. Flight track SWQ767

Thanks!

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
I think a lot of NHL teams still charter Delta too.

Only ones I could find last year was the Ducks and Flyers, now looks like Ducks on AC,
not sure about Philly.



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User currently onlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 13048 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Thread starter):
Detroit Red Wings --- private MD81 N682RW

It is owned by Olympia, is that not the holding company of the Red Wings or the company who runs the Joe?

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):
Colorado Avalanche --- ACA 7015 or 7016

I don't think that that's right.



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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 13017 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):
Too bad the Redwings don't have the MD-81 painted up with logos like the old DC-9-50, new MD-81 looks kind of generic and I assume it too is blocked from tracking.

Nope- not blocked

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N682RW



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7752 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 13009 times:

here's a photo from the Columbus Blue Jacket's Facebook of their airplane.


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User currently offlineSiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12927 times:

Coyotes, not blocked. PMM698:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/PMM698


User currently offlineeaglemanywg From Canada, joined Mar 2008, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12866 times:

Here is Ottawa's charter to Winnipeg for thier game Saturday afternoon..



ACA7047 · "Air Canada"
Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier Int'l (CYOW)
Winnipeg Int'l (CYWG)
03:10PM EST
04:48PM CST
Scheduled:
03:00PM EST
Scheduled:
04:32PM CST
Other flights between these airports

Duration: 2 hours 38 minutes

Thursday, 17 January 2013

Status

Landed over 23 hours ago (track log & graph)



Aircraft

Airbus A319 (twin-jet) (A319/Q – photos)
Speed
Filed: 377 kts (graph)
Altitude

Filed: 28,000 feet (graph)
Distance

Direct: 1,050 sm Planned: 1,099 sm Flown: 1,190 sm


User currently offlinen92r03 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12849 times:

Quoting Stackhouse007 (Reply 4):
Just curious, why would Carolina, Ottawa, and Washington all use Air Canada?

I think it has something to do with specially equipped (all biz class) 319's. Someone more in the know can probably confirm/deny.


User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12848 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):

here's a photo from the Columbus Blue Jacket's Facebook of their airplane.

Now lets just hope they can pay the fuel bill on the way back   .
Anybody know who the Wild fly? Perhaps DL or Sun Country?
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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12774 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 5):

Cootes still use a 727. Its been parked on the sw side of PHX near I10/17 junction almost all summer.



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User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12744 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):
Only ones I could find last year was the Ducks and Flyers, now looks like Ducks on AC,
not sure about Philly.

The Flyers are using Delta again this year.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12711 times:

Phoenix Coyotes --- private 727 PMM 698


Quoting brilondon (Reply 9):
I don't think that that's right.

The Avalanche plays Minnesolta Wild tommorow night, this flight fits perfect and don't see any other charter between these cities. We will see but I think this is them.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20130118/2100Z/KDEN/KMSP

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 15):
Anybody know who the Wild fly? Perhaps DL or Sun Country?

The Wild flew on a Swift Air 734 last season.

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 14):
I think it has something to do with specially equipped (all biz class) 319's. Someone more in the know can probably confirm/deny.

Yes, they fly on the Jetz division, the special charter VIP subfleet. Don't know if there are any changes for this year, but last year there were 5 A320s and 1 A319 in the fleet. The 320 seats 64 in all business (not sure how many seats on the 319).

A319...C-GKOB
A320...C-GPWG, C-FPWE, C-GQCA, C-FPWD, C-FDCA.

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Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 17):
The Flyers are using Delta again this year.

Thanks.

[Edited 2013-01-18 16:10:58]


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12483 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 9):
It is owned by Olympia, is that not the holding company of the Red Wings or the company who runs the Joe?

Olympia is owned by the Illitch family who owns Red Wings, Tigers and Little Caesars Pizza as well as run the Joe

Quoting sancho99504 (Reply 16):
Cootes still use a 727. Its been parked on the sw side of PHX near I10/17 junction almost all summer.

Not really saying anything if it is parked. The previous Detroit Redwings DC-9-50 is parked at DTW by Fed Ex too.


User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12445 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):
All Canadian teams should be on AC Jetz, now add Colorado and Anaheim Ducks to the mix.
Last year, NJ Devils and LA Kings also on AC.

Why would an American use a Canadian carrier for their charters? Would the flights they fly for Colorado and Anaheim not be cabotage when the team is transported from the home city to an opponent's city (ie. DEN-LAX?) How about the cost to position the plane to pick up the team?



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User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12379 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 20):
Why would an American use a Canadian carrier for their charters? Would the flights they fly for Colorado and Anaheim not be cabotage when the team is transported from the home city to an opponent's city (ie. DEN-LAX?) How about the cost to position the plane to pick up the team?

More than half the players and GMs are Canadian, so it isn't a stretch for them to consider it before they consider an American air carrier. There was an issue two years ago (maybe three) where the FAA addressed cabotage in an agreement with the Canadian authorities. Given the number of teams using the service, I don't believe that repositioning is a big deal. There is likely another team that needs to be picked up nearby. That said, repositioning would be the same for most other carriers as well.


User currently offlineONT2CGI From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 8):
Last year, NJ Devils and LA Kings also on AC.

The Albany Devils (owned by the NJ Devils) did a trip to St. Johns on AC late last year(during the lockout), so it look AC still has that contract. The only thing was the flight operated to/from EWR and not ALB.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11843 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 20):
Why would an American use a Canadian carrier for their charters? Would the flights they fly for Colorado and Anaheim not be cabotage when the team is transported from the home city to an opponent's city (ie. DEN-LAX?) How about the cost to position the plane to pick up the team?

Doesn't cabotage only affect scheduled airlines?

AC Jetz has been doing it for years with Canadian teams flying between 2 American airports between games. For example when I saw Ottawa Senators land at TPA to play the Lightning, they played Florida Panthers the day before so they flew FLL - TPA then probably went on to ATL or RDU next to play the Thrashers (this was a couple years ago - before someone calls me out and say they moved to Winnepeg) or Hurricanes.

It does seem weird for US teams to be using Air Canada, but since it is a charter flight they can get away with it.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days ago) and read 11770 times:

Got a few more....

Edmonton Oilers --- ACA 7039 or 7040

Philadelphia Flyers --- DAL 8946

Winnipeg Jets --- ACA 7017 or 7018

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 23):
Doesn't cabotage only affect scheduled airlines?

I don't think it matters.

http://www.execcharter.com/blog/comments/NHL_cabotage/

The main problem was passengers joining the charter at mid point without ever crossing a border, that was a violation of the charter agreement and was the basis for the order.



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25 Viscount724 : As far as I know, even an ad hoc freighter operated by a Canadian carrier can't carry strictly domestic cargo between two U.S. points (or vice versa
26 ChrisNH : They should give Winnipeg a 777 for all the flying they'll do.
27 Post contains links silentbob : Exactly, the biggest issue was ownership taking friends and family from one point in the US to another. A couple owners were particularly bad about d
28 Post contains links 71Zulu : A few more... Florida Panthers --- BSK 394 St. Louis Blues --- SWQ 737 or 801 or 802 Tampa Bay Lightning --- BSK 395
29 Post contains images canadianpylon : It won't get them to their destination any faster... They need something to make the miles go by MUCH faster... Concorde?
30 GuitrThree : The Nashville Predators lost their ride after last season when Swift Air filed for Bankruptcy. They kept most of their teams but requested out from Na
31 CcrlR : It does seem weird for US teams to be using Air Canada, but since it is a charter flight they can get away with it.[/quote] There was a short time whe
32 Post contains links 71Zulu : One more.... Los Angeles Kings --- ACA 7023 or 7024 I don't think thats them. There is an AC 319 just landed at BNA, thinking the Predators might be o
33 GuitrThree : I think you are right. Looked at the "pilot resources recently used IFR flights" on flight aware and saw a 10:20 flight to MSP on Delta. Didn't reali
34 Post contains links 71Zulu : Yeah they just put the flight plan up, AC it is! Nashville Predators --- ACA 7013 or 7014[Edited 2013-01-21 17:54:07]
35 sebring : This was settled literally at the national leader to national leader level early in Obama's first year. The argument in favour of allowing carriers t
36 GuitrThree : Well DL is a BIG player in the NFL. I think they fly more teams than any other carrier. But, that being said, most ALL games are on Sunday. A few are
37 71Zulu : 15 teams on AC? Then I guess they will pick up a few more, as I was figuring about 13 based on last year, still got a few more teams to confirm. I thi
38 ChrisNH : I'm only guessing, but the Boston Bruins might be using DL A319s. I saw one came into Hanscom Field in Bedford, MA last night (from Westchester County
39 jcarv : The Bruins previously used USA Jet MD-80s but seems those made their way to TUS desert.
40 71Zulu : I'm thinking the 8955 HPN-BED was the NY Knicks coming in after their game against Brooklyn, and the 8845 was a ferry to the next gig. The Knicks norm
41 A340crew : bruins are using swift air this year SWQ 801
42 Post contains links and images 71Zulu : The 734 is getting ready to pick them up http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...1/history/20130122/1420Z/KMDW/KBED Well, that flight number not showi
43 Post contains links robsaw : Some NHL teams, including the Vancouver Canucks, are none too pleased when they found out the AC aircraft were NOT in the usual AC Jetz all-business c
44 71Zulu : You know I thought it was odd that most of the AC hockey flights we tracked were on 319s yet there was only one 319 in the Jetz configuration, guess t
45 GuitrThree : Swift in the past used flight numbers that matched the tail number of the aircraft used. SWQ 801 was the 737 N801TJ SWQ 802 was the 737 N802TJ SWQ 76
46 Post contains links KBUF : Sabres using Miami Air: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK397
47 Post contains links 71Zulu : Almost got them all, Boston Bruins --- SWQ 801 or 802 Calgary Flames --- ACA 7035 or 7036 Montreal Canadiens --- ACA 7041 or 7042 New York Islanders -
48 Post contains images KBUF : ...except the Thrashers don't exist anymore. As for the other teams: Devils' next road game is Sunday at Montreal, Wild's next road game is Friday at
49 71Zulu : LOL, I copied the list and didn't realize that! Well, that makes it easier.
50 A340crew : NJ Devils are also using Swift this year out of EWR. Swift has converted its 767 N250MY to 100 J seats, and is using it on hockey and basketball chart
51 burnsie28 : Wild are on Delta, typically with the Flight Number 8954
52 Post contains links 71Zulu : The decision by Air Canada to reconfigure the Jetz aircraft has cost them their first customer, Canucks Take to the Air with Flair VANCOUVER - The Van
53 longhauler : I think you mean the decision not to reconfigure the Jetz aircraft. While this is unfortunate, it was predictable. With the hockey season so short, i
54 Post contains links CcrlR : Saw this earlier today, A white 767 leaving stormy ORD. Must be for the Blackhawks flying to MSP to play the Wild Wednesday. The Stars' 767 is in DTW
55 connies4ever : Well, the Canucks have severed their relationship with AC, for one, since AC have reconfigured their mainline aircraft with less J and more Y. AC Jet
56 threepoint : I realize that Flair is nowhere near the size of AC and lacks the widespread support in many airports, but - with three B737s - they should be in a p
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