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Rumour: EK Divert To SIN. Inflight Shutdown..  
User currently offlineWill From Australia, joined May 1999, 79 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 21874 times:

Hi All,

I hate to bother you all with a rumour, but I keep hearing this and I would love it confirmed with some details if possible...

I have heard that EK has had another in-flight shutdown and has made a diversion into SIN. Equipment type being either an A380 or 777 of course. Can anyone confirm this and shoot me some details if possible...

Many Thanks,

Will.......

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User currently offlineairbusa322 From Australia, joined Apr 2009, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 21763 times:

Nothing appears to have diverted, but there was 2 scheduled arrivals within the last hour being a 77W and a A380. Unless it happened close to Singapore so they continued?

User currently offlinebyronicle6 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2011, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 20923 times:

I was looking on SIN airport websites arrivals Last night and happened to see EK413 (AKL-SYD-DXB) expected to land in SIN at 02:20am 18th January. Don't know what the reason for diversion was though.


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User currently offlineairbusa322 From Australia, joined Apr 2009, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 20654 times:

There is a bit of a mess up with an A380 at the moment as the AKL-SYD diverted to Melbourne last night due to weather and hence missed the curfew. That aircraft ferried MEL-SYD late this afternoon (probably due to crew rest) so its nearly a day behind schedule.

User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 20485 times:

Not quite sure of this instance, but the EK413 on AKL-SYD-DXB has earlier also left SYD with less than required trip fuel to DXB, in order to escape from the SYD curfew. It would instead either plan a tech stop at SIN or, if fuel level permits fly direct to CMB for re-fuel.


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 17880 times:

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 2):
Don't know what the reason for diversion was though.

SYD was experiencing temps of 45C in recent days. That level of heat creates density altitude problems for many aircraft. That any aircraft from SYD to a long distance destination make a tech fuel stop would only be exercising safe operations principles.


User currently offlinestrangr From Australia, joined Apr 2012, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 10241 times:

Quoting airbusa322 (Reply 3):
There is a bit of a mess up with an A380 at the moment as the AKL-SYD diverted to Melbourne last night due to weather and hence missed the curfew. That aircraft ferried MEL-SYD late this afternoon (probably due to crew rest) so its nearly a day behind schedule.

another reason I don't understand why airlines fight over each other to fly into Sydney, when Melbourne has no curfew. How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

Oh well I guess it shows what political bickering will do in a very unionised state.

What is there actually to see in Sydney apart from a bridge anyway?


User currently onlineunityofsaints From Ireland, joined Nov 2011, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9991 times:

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

*Cough* LHR *cough*


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9672 times:

Quoting unityofsaints (Reply 7):
*Cough* LHR *cough*

Bad cough there,might need a good cough bottle!!!


User currently offlineklinit From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8588 times:

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):

Perhaps because it's the country's financial centre, largest city and main gateway for overseas tourists. Melbourne is nice, but hardly as well-known abroad or iconic in the eyes of international travellers as Sydney.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4979 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 8057 times:

Quoting unityofsaints (Reply 7):

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

*Cough* LHR *cough*

"Cough FRA Cough"

EK413



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User currently offlinenrt1011 From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5202 times:

Typical non-Sydney-sider

User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5202 times:

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

There are a LOT of airports serving very large and important cities that cannot operate 24 / 7

AMS, FCO, MXP, YUL, YYZ, BOS, MAN from memory all operate with curfews. Im not sure the details beyond that as to whether they are as strict as SYD, but the points stands.

Im also not disagreeing with you, just pointing it out. And as someone who lives in the flight path, I wouldn't mind an A380 or 787 landing over me after 11. You can barely hear the things! An A320 climbing out at 6 am is much less pleasant.



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User currently offlineSYDSpotter From Australia, joined Oct 2012, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

Quoting strangr (Reply 6):
another reason I don't understand why airlines fight over each other to fly into Sydney, when Melbourne has no curfew. How on earth can an airport serving a city the size of sydney, still have a curfew on an airport.

Oh well I guess it shows what political bickering will do in a very unionised state.

What is there actually to see in Sydney apart from a bridge anyway?

Because when you fly into Melbourne you're flying over cows and farms and when you fly into Sydney you're flying over civilisation !



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4979 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 12):
AMS, FCO, MXP, YUL, YYZ, BOS, MAN from memory all operate with curfews. Im not sure the details beyond that as to whether they are as strict as SYD, but the points stands.

You learn a new thing everyday... I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew considering the amount of runways available to prevent aircraft from over flying residential properties...

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 12):
Im also not disagreeing with you, just pointing it out. And as someone who lives in the flight path, I wouldn't mind an A380 or 787 landing over me after 11. You can barely hear the things! An A320 climbing out at 6 am is much less pleasant.

        

EK413



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9536 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 10):
"Cough FRA Cough"

FRA doesn't have a cough, FRA has pneumonia.....   



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User currently offlineN757ST From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

BOS does not have a curfew, but lga does between midnight and 6am during the summer months.

User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 14):
I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew

Don't quote me but I think it may only be for takeoffs. Something like 22:00 - 04:00. Don't have a source at hand though.
There is a list floating around somewhere.



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User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Quoting N757ST (Reply 16):
BOS does not have a curfew, but lga does between midnight and 6am during the summer months.

Only stage 3 aircraft after a certain time into BOS I thought. This is obviously not as restrictive as LHR, SYD and FRA, but would potentially have an impact on freight operations I would think?

Correct me if that information is out of date.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4979 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 17):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 14):
I wasn't aware AMS operate with a curfew

Don't quote me but I think it may only be for takeoffs. Something like 22:00 - 04:00. Don't have a source at hand though.
There is a list floating around somewhere.

I've done a quick search & I stumbled across this link http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noise/updates.html

EK413



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User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 551 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

AMS has no night cerfew. They do have 'night slots' though. I know some freighers operate through AMS 24/7.

User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 19):
I've done a quick search & I stumbled across this link http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noi....html

Yeah thats the one!   



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User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

Quoting 76er (Reply 20):
AMS has no night cerfew. They do have 'night slots' though. I know some freighers operate through AMS 24/7.


From the linked page above.

AIRPORT CURFEWS6. RESTRICTIONS FOR CHAPTER 2 AND MARGINAL CHAPTER 3 AIRCRAFT
Take-off and landing is not allowed for aircraft which are certified in accordance with the noise standards of ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 2. Aircraft certified in accordance with the noise standards of ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 3, for which the margin of the sum of the three certification noise levels, relative to the sum of the three applicable ICAO Annex 16 Chapter 3 certification noise limits, is less than 5 EPNdB:

1. For aircraft equipped with engines with bypass ratio 3, it is not allowed to plan take-off between 2200-0500 (2100-0400).

Hope this helps clarify  



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User currently offlineblrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting Will (Thread starter):
Hi All,

I hate to bother you all with a rumour, but I keep hearing this and I would love it confirmed with some details if possible...

I have heard that EK has had another in-flight shutdown and has made a diversion into SIN. Equipment type being either an A380 or 777 of course. Can anyone confirm this and shoot me some details if possible...

Many Thanks,



Will,

I was on this flight EK413 SYD-DXB on Jan 17th and may be 3 hours into the flight, captain came on PA and announced due to technical issues flight is being diverted to SIN and nothing much of details was offered. One thing you could notice on board was that cabin lights could not be dimmed, sometimes lights would flicker and may be some air flows issues. These could be nothing to do with actual issue but my own observation.

Will try to write a up report, as it turned out to be quite a long journey I have taken!



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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2283 times:
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Quoting blrBird (Reply 23):
I was on this flight EK413 SYD-DXB on Jan 17th and may be 3 hours into the flight, captain came on PA and announced due to technical issues flight is being diverted to SIN and nothing much of details was offered. One thing you could notice on board was that cabin lights could not be dimmed, sometimes lights would flicker and may be some air flows issues. These could be nothing to do with actual issue but my own observation.

About 3 years ago I was on an EK 773ER which experienced similar problems, although on the ground at SIN. The A/C was ground power started and despite various attempts to force the bleed air (?) to start (including some quite dramatic engine runs) they couldn't fix it. During a few failed departures the lights flickered and A/C stopped. Speaking as a seasoned flyer it was quite scary.

3 hours later they de-planed because it was about to become a riot. On the plus side I got a free night in SIN Shangri La  

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineN757ST From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 18):

That could be, though FedEx flies a bunch of dc10s in there at all hours. My aircraft is stage 3 comliant so I wouldn't be affected.


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