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What Happened To The AA 757 Nc?  
User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8590 times:

In two of the promotional videos for the new AA, we see a painted 757. What happened to it? Why hasn't it been rolled out?

Is it possible they painted it just to see it in the flesh as a test a few months ago, en painted it back to the old
D colors?

What gives?

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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8450 times:

Don't know.

The reg of N0427ZZ is not real and can't find the fleet number of 5SW either.



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User currently offlineUA735WL From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8164 times:

My guess would be that AA used CGI to "paint" a 757 just for this commercial, just like they did with the 77W.


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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8158 times:
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The CGI in the rest of the video is very realistic, so I would expect that part of it was faked as well.

User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 1):
The reg of N0427ZZ is not real and can't find the fleet number of 5SW either.

No, but the video shows N670AA with a greyed out "AA" before the start of the paint test. Was N670AA in storage at some point?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-KD0PdI1Ek&t=46s

[Edited 2013-01-19 09:29:15]


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8046 times:

Wow, duped by CGI? Let me go look at again lol.

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 4):
Was N670AA in storage at some point?

Rzjets says 670AA is retired, sent to storage at ROW October 2011.



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User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2272 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 5):

I was going to say that airplane must have been in storage, because AA paints the red stripe blue when they retire an aircraft. That airplane had the red strip painted blue, and there would have been no reason to paint it blue prior to painting the entire aircraft. Same goes for the tail, the AA logo was painted gray (with the exception of the rudder), again, something not necessary to do it they're painting the whole thing anyway. So yes, that airplane had to have been in storage. At any rate, N670AA is not among the active fleet, even now.



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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 674 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

I bet N670AA was in storage, they had it repainted, and now the interior/exterior is getting fitted out.

Remember in the initial video, Tom Horton said the whole fleet was getting in-seat IFE? I wonder if they would refit the international 75Ls? They're slated for replacement eventually, but they'll be a part of the new American during the most critical phase of the roll-out.

The 757s are beautiful, amazing airplanes - though they're among the most outdated on the interiors.

I bet the thing rolls out after the 737 tour next week into revenue service ex-MIA or NYC.


User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2157 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

This is the same aircraft that they teased last month with the black tarp over the tail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...4&feature=player_detailpage#t=140s
(compare with http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...r_detailpage&v=J-KD0PdI1Ek#t=140s)

So they either have some of the best CGI I have ever seen or they repainted an aircraft they were retiring for testing/marketing (making these videos) reason than painted over it (or kept it very well hidden/quiet).

[Edited 2013-01-19 10:03:22]

User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7747 times:

Well the registration of N0427ZZ isn't even a legitimately fake US reg number (too many numbers). They may have pulled an aircraft from storage just to do a test paint before pulling an active-service aircraft off the line only to repaint it a solid gray. The trick would be if it's possible to locate 670AA and see if it's still parked somewhere.


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User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Ah, the 757 mystery continues. For what it's worth, On Dec. 30th I saw a 757 parked over at the AA hangars on the West side of DFW with its red stripe painted blue. Its tail appeared exactly like it did in the above video (gray with only the rudder showing part of the red 'A').

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7499 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 9):
Well the registration of N0427ZZ isn't even a legitimately fake US reg number (too many numbers).

Also first character after the N must be a number other than zero.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 10):
Ah, the 757 mystery continues. For what it's worth, On Dec. 30th I saw a 757 parked over at the AA hangars on the West side of DFW with its red stripe painted blue.

Guess they must have flown it out.

And when you put it in FA, it shows not able to be tracked

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N670AA

Interesting!



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7174 times:

Found this and it talks about the 773 getting painted at Dean Baldwin Painting in ROW, so maybe thats where the 757 was painted and the video was shot.

http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/54859-aa-botches-777-300-intro/

[Edited 2013-01-19 14:31:23]


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User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7020 times:

I wonder if they used a retired plane out in the desert to test different paint swatches, specifically the mica silver they ended up with. A year broiling in the desert is a good test for how the paint will hold up.


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User currently offlineteusje From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Comparing the colors of the 757 in the video to N908NN, you can see they're not the same.
There's an additional red stripe on the lower part of the fuselage on the 757. This part is grey on N908NN.
So that's probably the paint N908NN is getting now.



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User currently offlineA36001 From Australia, joined Sep 2012, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5230 times:

What is with the MD-80 with the three large circle on the forward fuselage that appears in the Youtube clip? And if they did painted a 757 to test the livery, how on earth did they keep that from getting out? I mean is it so easy to hide a Boeing 757?  

User currently onlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1874 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 3):
The CGI in the rest of the video is very realistic

No, it is not. It's very poorly made, actually.

It could have been acceptable in late 1990s or early 2000s, but not now. Whoever did that, forgot that wings flex upwards in flight.



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User currently offlineegnr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 13):
I wonder if they used a retired plane out in the desert to test different paint swatches, specifically the mica silver they ended up with.

Looking at the video, it seems they used the MD-80 referred to below to do that.

Quoting A36001 (Reply 15):
What is with the MD-80 with the three large circle on the forward fuselage that appears in the Youtube clip?

Looks like colour testing to me: http://youtu.be/J-KD0PdI1Ek?t=2m3s Seems to be at least 2 different shades of base mica silver, and 2 different shades of grey for the titles in each of the areas marked off by white vertical lines.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1355 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 10):
Ah, the 757 mystery continues. For what it's worth, On Dec. 30th I saw a 757 parked over at the AA hangars on the West side of DFW with its red stripe painted blue. Its tail appeared exactly like it did in the above video (gray with only the rudder showing part of the red 'A').

That thing is still over there??? Yeah, no, that's a bird that got hail-damaged pretty badly last year. I thought it had been there a while in July, just before I moved out west. Had no idea it was still parked over there. I don't think that wreck is our mystery bird here...



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 8):
This is the same aircraft that they teased last month with the black tarp over the tail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU...4&feature=player_detailpage#t=140s
(compare with http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...140s)

It looks like it was painted at Dean Baldwin Painting in ROW. See pic #6 for the hangar doors in the AA videos.

http://deanbaldwin.localplacement.net/gallery_airline.php



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2981 times:

Quoting A36001 (Reply 15):
And if they did painted a 757 to test the livery, how on earth did they keep that from getting out? I mean is it so easy to hide a Boeing 757?

Keep it locked in the paint hangar I guess.

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 19):
It looks like it was painted at Dean Baldwin Painting in ROW. See pic #6 for the hangar doors in the AA videos.

http://deanbaldwin.localplacement.ne...e.php

Yes looks like it.

I think Skywest had their CRJs painted in AE livery there, wonder if they will going back or left as is.

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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 11):
And when you put it in FA, it shows not able to be tracked

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N670AA

If it flew anywhere, it probably wouldn't have flown under its tail number but rather under an AAL ferry flight number.



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 21):

If it flew anywhere, it probably wouldn't have flown under its tail number but rather under an AAL ferry flight number.

Right but AA submits tail numbers to FA so they both should show up on a flight, like this one:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N795AN

N670AA looks out of the system.

Some still get missed like the 738 that got painted,

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N908NN

still shows in VCV when we know it's in Dallas.


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