TWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 637 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 45246 times:
Hello All,
I may be in the minority, but I really like American's new look and I'm excited to see it in person. With the website, smart phone apps and the corporate headquarters signage already updated, it's only a matter of time before the new brand rollsout system-wide. Let's use this thread to report the changes as they occur in the airports, aircraft, etc. Pictures would be appreciated!
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4972 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 45325 times:
I would assume within the next few weeks at the hub airports, and at other larger destinations within the month. IIRC DL didn't take long at all to change signing at the hubs.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22054 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (4 months 4 days ago) and read 45176 times:
Years -
From company Q & A.
When will this start showing up at airports?
We will start with our hub airports in North America. New York JFK, Chicago, L.A., Dallas/Fort Worth and Miami. We’ll get those rolled out first, and then we will focus on other airports we serve around the country and around the world. But it will be a matter of years until fully complete.
For those in D/FW, you may we aware that there’s a full renovation of Terminal A ongoing which is being done with our new branding in mind. So you’ll see all the new signage, all the new branding at Terminal A during the first part of February. That’s going to be very exciting for us.
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BlueLine From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 44772 times:
Quoting tguman (Reply 3): Any news on on time frame for aircraft repaint?
That's what I want to know.
As for branding in airports, Only the slideshow on the gate monitors show the new branding, but then again, the new branding has only been around for two days.
iFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 381 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 44754 times:
Quoting tguman (Reply 3): Any news on on time frame for aircraft repaint?
Someone in one of the other threads said they were shooting for half of the fleet by the end of 2014, but I don't know if that was including new deliveries or not.
Wingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 216 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 44156 times:
Here is a schedule AA has posted in it's internal event calendar. It says "New American Airlines Livery Tour". I don't know if this includes actually having a painted airplane there (probably the 738 from the debut) or if it just a multi-media show. Probably not open to the public, but might work for spotting. Except as noted, the locations are on the gate.
Anyway, here you go:
Tue 22 Jan Tulsa (Engineering, so that maybe at the hangar, not the terminal)
Wed 23 Jan Miami Concourse D
Thu 24 Jan Miami Concourse D
Fri 25 Jan JFK Terminal 8
Sat 26 Jan LGA
Sun 27 Jan DFW Concourse C
Mon 28 Jan DFW Concourse C
Tue 29 Jan ORD Concourse K
Wed 30 Jan ORD Concourse K
Thu 31 Jan LAX (Superbay)
After that, the 773 goes on-line. 2 are at VCV now.
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FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 44036 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2): We’ll get those rolled out first, and then we will focus on other airports we serve around the country and around the world. But it will be a matter of years until fully complete.
Interestingly enough, FWA got a new Eagle ticket counter backdrop in the (now) previous "silver waves" design two days before AA filed for Chapter 11.
It will be interesting to see how fast it's replaced, but my hopes aren't up. At last check, the UA backdrop at FWA is still a tulip. DL, however, did rebrand FWA fast.
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 377 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 43559 times:
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 10): Interestingly enough, FWA got a new Eagle ticket counter backdrop in the (now) previous "silver waves" design two days before AA filed for Chapter 11.
You are absolutely obsessed with FWA man. Gotta hand it to you, definitely the most adamant FWA supporter a.net has!
AA/Eagle has opened a bunch of stations during Ch11, and the ones that I'm familiar with (GCK, DRO) have a really crummy, thin vinyl ticket counter sign and gate sticker. Its like thin, cheap wall paper. MHK got it's signage pre-bankruptcy, and its a 3-D metal sign.
My hunch was that the vinyl signs were in interim solution (not just AA chastising it's small markets) until the new branding roll out. I'm sure there's a rollout plan for small markets like MHK, FWA, and the small markets AA/Eagle has opened in BK - I'm sure some of the stuff should be seen this year.
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 43509 times:
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 13): AA/Eagle has opened a bunch of stations during Ch11, and the ones that I'm familiar with (GCK, DRO) have a really crummy, thin vinyl ticket counter sign and gate sticker. Its like thin, cheap wall paper.
Sounds a lot like FWA's: a thin metallic-look decal attached to the wall. It replaced a plastic backdrop that Eagle had used for eons.
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 13): I'm sure there's a rollout plan for small markets like MHK, FWA, and the small markets AA/Eagle has opened in BK - I'm sure some of the stuff should be seen this year.
I'm sure that it's not a matter of if but when FWA gets the new branding. FWA does really well for Eagle, with 3-4 daily flights to ORD and 2 to DFW, and Eagle's market share at FWA last year went from 24% to 27%.
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 13): You are absolutely obsessed with FWA man. Gotta hand it to you, definitely the most adamant FWA supporter a.net has!
I'm just passionate about my hometown airport. Unfortunately, there are MANY here in Fort Wayne that think otherwise.
deltadawg From United States of America, joined May 2006, 620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 43210 times:
I too like the new image and logo design. However, it does not do much for the company having the rudest workers in the industry. I believe I saw a survey recently that listed AA the worst in customer service, friendliness, etc.!!! However, I do like the new logo.
ozark1 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 208 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 42558 times:
Quoting deltadawg (Reply 15): However, it does not do much for the company having the rudest workers in the industry. I believe I saw a survey recently that listed AA the worst in customer service, friendliness, etc.!!!
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with the above comment. Every airline, including Delta, has some bad apples. I sure wish that this site---for airplane enthusiasts---could remain on that subject instead of inserting unnecessary comments.
FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 42581 times:
Quoting deltadawg (Reply 15): I too like the new image and logo design. However, it does not do much for the company having the rudest workers in the industry. I believe I saw a survey recently that listed AA the worst in customer service, friendliness, etc.!!! However, I do like the new logo.
I thought the same way about pre-merger Continental. Rude, terrible Customer Service and overall a bad experience. Though that may have just been because I was going through EWR...
Anyways... back to the issue. They have said that the hubs will get the updated signage first? Of the hubs is it safe to assume that DFW will be the first to completely change over? What about the American Airlines Center in Dallas and the American Airlines Arena in Miami? Wondering when CLL (College Station, TX) will get their updated AA signage. It's only a few days after the revealing and the color scheme is already starting to grow on me. Really looking forward to when American Eagle starts repainting their aircraft into the new scheme then they will actually resemble the mainline scheme unlike the previous Eagle scheme which clashed terribly with the AA mainline colors.
[Edited 2013-01-19 19:16:10]
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jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1858 posts, RR: 17 Reply 17, posted (4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 41161 times:
I'm definitely hoping that AA's airport rebranding effort looks more like Delta's and less like United's. The speed with which Delta replaced former NW signage and rolled its out new brand was really impressive. United is still pootling along with piecemeal replacements and disjointed branding at many of its non-hub airports. It's more cost effective to do it that way, but it comes at the expense of a unified brand image.
For what it's worth, much of the signage at AMR headquarters in Fort Worth has already been replaced - a positive sign. The first increment of the renovated Terminal A at DFW will open with the new branding. Since the remainder of Terminals A, B and C at DFW are scheduled to be refreshed under the TRIP program, my guess is that AA will hold off on rebranding those facilities until they close for renovation. ORD, LAX, MIA and JFK will hopefully happen quickly.
AA seems pretty serious about this initiative, so it'll be interesting to see how energetically they go about rolling out the new brand. Fleet repainting is one thing - that takes time, and they've got a lot of turnover scheduled for the fleet in the next few years - but airport facilities can be done either really quickly or very slowly. Hoping they go with the former option.
elbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 735 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 40827 times:
Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 18): What about the American Airlines Center in Dallas and the American Airlines Arena in Miami?
The United Center was rebranded over the 2011 offseason when the UA merger closed the previous October so my guess is the stadiums will stay as is for the rest of the season and get done over the summer.
TSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 40112 times:
Since BHM is in the process of a complete terminal renovation including ticketing and concourses/gate areas, I expect BHM will get the full new AA look much earlier than it would have otherwise.
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seahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 39051 times:
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 5): Someone in one of the other threads said they were shooting for half of the fleet by the end of 2014, but I don't know if that was including new deliveries or not.
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 36841 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 20): Anyone have any thoughts on whether they'll keep the AA and scissor eagle neon sign that's at ORD? I sure hope so, I love that sign.
There's also a classic eagle neon sign at LAX T4. We should be wondering about the fate of that as well.
JFK T8 has a four-logo AA logo retrospective (original eagle, postwar eagle, Astrojet eagle, scissor eagle), and I expect it to be updated by adding the new Flight Symbol and updating the scissor eagle logo from "1968" to "1968-2013".
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 36361 times:
Quoting kann123air (Reply 25): How about the safety video? That has some "old liveries" in the background.....
And it wasn't updated that long ago, either.
I know that the AA iOS and Android apps now have the new logo. Any Windows Phone users on here to confirm a change for that app? (AA's BlackBerry app has been discontinued.)
I would think that the safety video will be changed when we get ready to introduce the new uniforms since everybody is wearing the current one on the video.
UA787DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (4 months 3 days ago) and read 35177 times:
Quoting wjv04 (Reply 32): Gross...Im not a fan at all
Please put that on the discussion thread. I have to agree about the tail, but this is about updates and schedule for the new logo and livery introduction.
I wonder how fast their branding will go as compared to UA or DL with their mergers and livery updates. Until the CO merger, UA was updating logos at the speed of about one airport per year. The UA/CO merger logo updating is moving much faster. I imagine that AA will update their livery fairly quickly, partially due to all the the new planes coming in. But as for logo, I don't think it will be super fast. Add in the merger question, and this gets quite interesting.
LDVAviation From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 752 posts, RR: 5 Reply 32, posted (4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 34877 times:
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 24): There's also a classic eagle neon sign at LAX T4. We should be wondering about the fate of that as well.
That was put in its current location upon the completion of the most recent renovation of T4. It is something of an artifact. I don't think it is going anywhere.
qqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2198 posts, RR: 14 Reply 38, posted (4 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 33500 times:
I got a quick glance at a kiosk yesterday at LGA and it had the new logo on the screen. We all know the new kiosk software was released a month or so ago, but now they've added the new name and logo. Simple, but you can see how it all fits. So all were right to assume when that new software rolled out that it was a glimpse into the new AA.
Also, some gate monitors at LGA were sporting images of the new aircraft livery and logo, but the flight information and standby lists all appeared the same. That should be something fairly easy to roll out once the software is ready to go. Also, airports like RDU will be very easy to update to the new image since all airline branding is done digitally. There are no airline specific backdrops at the gates or ticket counters, only large monitors. I was at RDU yesterday and everything is still the old AA. I imagine it won't be long though.
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A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 40, posted (4 months 2 days ago) and read 33110 times:
Quoting PDX88 (Reply 37): 3JX is set to ferry from BFI to DFW on the 22nd as AA 9701. Good chance it will be sporting the new livery.
So this is actually the aircraft to follow for local spotters and spotters outside of the U.S. I'm looking forward to seeing it in CUR!!! Send it here!!!
JoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 41, posted (4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 33015 times:
Quoting PDX88 (Reply 37): Good chance it will be sporting the new livery.
From what I have heard through the rumor mill is that 3JX will be delivered in the old livery. The aircraft has been complete for a week or two, and incase the rebranding unveil had to be pushed back, and AA still needed to take delivery of this aircraft they wanted it to be in standard colors...
Look at it this way... this is your last opportunity to see a brand new shiney silver bird! They do look fantastic brand new and polished up!
deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 43, posted (4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 32011 times:
I got an email invite from AA to attend an event on Monday the 28th at gate C2. They asked to RSVP, so they could print a boarding pass to enter security.
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 45, posted (4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 31202 times:
Quoting blueman87 (Reply 42): Quoting N737AA (Reply 39):
It was flown to FTW after the debute but will be routed on the roadshow starting tomorrow....First stop...TUL.
N737AA
cool maybe merger Livery Huh???
Doubt that but it will be in TUL today and looks to be heading to MIA tonight.
Current routing.....
9675/21 FTW 1456 DFW 1510
9780/22 DFW 0715 TUL 0759
9781/22 TUL 2312 MIA 0241
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 46, posted (4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 31078 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 45): Doubt that but it will be in TUL today and looks to be heading to MIA tonight.
So these are all promotional flights, no scheduled commercial flights. Does anyone know when it will enter commercial service? What about 3JX? It will leave BFI for DFW today as per previous posts, will that aircraft enter commercial service in the new livery before N908NN will? I'm looking forward to the flight schedules of these two aircraft (if anyone can get their hands on it).
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 50, posted (4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 30913 times:
3JT is currently touring though the hubs. It will be in MIA on the 23 and 24, JFK on the 25, LGA on the 26, DFW on the 27 and 28, ORD on the 29 and 30 and LAX on the 31.
Both 77W are currrently at VCV getting the new paint. Not sure if 3JX is in the new colors or not. I almost guess no since it was so far along in production but I guess we'll know later today after it ferries from BFI
Actually now that I think of it, there were already images of 3JX already painted in the new paint minus the colors?
aacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 433 posts, RR: 2 Reply 56, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 28687 times:
Just saw the plane... Its really incredible. It was parked next to a 763, and it made the old scheme look outdated, beleive it or not. Loved the tail. You can appreciate all the details when youre standing next to it. Cant wait to see lots lf them together. Its gonna look very nice.
martinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 57, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 28378 times:
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 58, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 28193 times:
Quoting aacun (Reply 56): Just saw the plane... Its really incredible. It was parked next to a 763, and it made the old scheme look outdated, beleive it or not. Loved the tail. You can appreciate all the details when youre standing next to it. Cant wait to see lots lf them together. Its gonna look very nice.
Thanks aacun. Can you let me know when this aircraft or 3JX will be flying to CUR (commercial service)? I'm dying to photograph it as well (night and daytime)!!! You can send me a private message if that works better.
GentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2074 posts, RR: 2 Reply 59, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 28127 times:
My concern of the new tail which takes on an American flag theme is it is more recognizable when compared to to the old "AA" tail design. this potentially puts a bulls eye on a U.S. flagged carrier in that our flag is recognized worldwide.
Keep the new design on the the airframes which fly in North America. Find another tail design for the global flying in those not so friendly countries on the Department of State advisory list.
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Mats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 585 posts, RR: 1 Reply 60, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 28072 times:
I'm surprised that they haven't revealed a logo for the American Eagle brand. They've already produced images for the AAdvantage brand, but nothing for Eagle. I actually feel that the MQ brand is the most desperate for a facelift.
jetboytwa From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 379 posts, RR: 5 Reply 61, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 28189 times:
Quoting Mats (Reply 60): I'm surprised that they haven't revealed a logo for the American Eagle brand. They've already produced images for the AAdvantage brand, but nothing for Eagle. I actually feel that the MQ brand is the most desperate for a facelift.
Mats: the new MQ (American Eagle) livery and logo/branding is actually on AA.com:
fraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 63, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 27954 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59): My concern of the new tail which takes on an American flag theme is it is more recognizable when compared to to the old "AA" tail design. this potentially puts a bulls eye on a U.S. flagged carrier in that our flag is recognized worldwide.
Keep the new design on the the airframes which fly in North America. Find another tail design for the global flying in those not so friendly countries on the Department of State advisory list.
Really? And the big "American" on the side of the old color scheme didn't give it away before?
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AA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 357 posts, RR: 0 Reply 64, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 27774 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59): My concern of the new tail which takes on an American flag theme is it is more recognizable when compared to to the old "AA" tail design. this potentially puts a bulls eye on a U.S. flagged carrier in that our flag is recognized worldwide.
Sorry, but in the age of the internet and common sense, I'm having trouble believing that it wasn't already obvious before. You're telling me that "American" hasn't been a dead giveaway from the start?
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Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2380 posts, RR: 33 Reply 65, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 27741 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59):
My concern of the new tail which takes on an American flag theme is it is more recognizable when compared to to the old "AA" tail design. this potentially puts a bulls eye on a U.S. flagged carrier in that our flag is recognized worldwide.
The big word "American" on the other end of the silver tube isn't a dead giveaway that its a US based airline?
817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1404 posts, RR: 1 Reply 67, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27328 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59):
Keep the new design on the the airframes which fly in North America. Find another tail design for the global flying in those not so friendly countries on the Department of State advisory list.
Countries such as...???
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GentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2074 posts, RR: 2 Reply 68, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 27169 times:
Quoting AA94 (Reply 64): I'm having trouble believing that it wasn't already obvious before. You're telling me that "American" hasn't been a dead giveaway from the start?
Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 65): The big word "American" on the other end of the silver tube isn't a dead giveaway that its a US based airline?
I'm saying the U.S. flag is more recognizable than the word American. Many people in third world countries don't speak or read English but they do recognize the U.S. flag. I've traveled in Haiti, and other parts of Hispaniola, Africa and southwest Asia where they don't understand or read English but the U.S. flag is recognizable more than the word "AMERICAN"
Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting AA94 (Reply 64): Sorry, but in the age of the Internet and common sense
There still is a lot of of globe which doesn't have connectivity.
I remember not so may years ago a common daily occurrence where the Spanish military guard (Guardia Civil) kept armed guards around U.S. airframes in on the tarmac at BCN on a five hour layover.
I for one refuse to put a bulls eye on my tail. Thus being the case I will not fly American Airlines across either of the ponds.
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817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1404 posts, RR: 1 Reply 69, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 27063 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 68): I for one refuse to put a bulls eye on my tail. Thus being the case I will not fly American Airlines across either of the ponds.
Honestly... I think you are being overdramatic...
How many of those destinations on that list (that AA flies to) are you really concerned about?
[Edited 2013-01-24 07:01:21]
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qf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2555 posts, RR: 1 Reply 71, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 26827 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 68): I for one refuse to put a bulls eye on my tail. Thus being the case I will not fly American Airlines across either of the ponds.
The hybrid white DHL livery didn't look remotely American, and yet it was shot at by terrorists on the ground who knew exactly what they were firing at.
Personally I'd be more worried about the Air Force thinking I was on a Cubana plane in US airspace.
GentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2074 posts, RR: 2 Reply 72, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26521 times:
Quoting qf002 (Reply 71): The hybrid white DHL livery didn't look remotely American, and yet it was shot at by terrorists on the ground who knew exactly what they were firing at.
Without getting to far OT I thought DHL was actually a European company.
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rlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 989 posts, RR: 1 Reply 74, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 26411 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59): My concern of the new tail which takes on an American flag theme is it is more recognizable when compared to to the old "AA" tail design. this potentially puts a bulls eye on a U.S. flagged carrier in that our flag is recognized worldwide.
Well, every airliner from the USA has an American flag plastered on both sides of the plane. I think that might be a giveaway also.
martinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 75, posted (3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 26311 times:
AA has posted on their Facebook page photos of the new 77W being painted at a facility in California. The photos show the details of the tail. It's going to look gorgeous!
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2967 posts, RR: 8 Reply 77, posted (3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 25903 times:
Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 7): Here is a schedule AA has posted in it's internal event calendar. It says "New American Airlines Livery Tour". I don't know if this includes actually having a painted airplane there (probably the 738 from the debut) or if it just a multi-media show. Probably not open to the public, but might work for spotting. Except as noted, the locations are on the gate.
I think I saw passengers being escorted onto the airplane and the ramp at MIA today, but I'm not one hundred percent certain. The snack table and promotional materials were definitely open to the public, however.
Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 38): Also, some gate monitors at LGA were sporting images of the new aircraft livery and logo, but the flight information and standby lists all appeared the same. That should be something fairly easy to roll out once the software is ready to go. Also, airports like RDU will be very easy to update to the new image since all airline branding is done digitally. There are no airline specific backdrops at the gates or ticket counters, only large monitors. I was at RDU yesterday and everything is still the old AA. I imagine it won't be long though.
And from MIA today, no signs of the new identity other than the software on the self-service machines and the screensavers.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 78, posted (3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 26101 times:
Quoting martinrpo1 (Reply 75): AA has posted on their Facebook page photos of the new 77W being painted at a facility in California. The photos show the details of the tail. It's going to look gorgeous!
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18857 posts, RR: 64 Reply 82, posted (3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 25022 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 68): I remember not so may years ago a common daily occurrence where the Spanish military guard (Guardia Civil) kept armed guards around U.S. airframes in on the tarmac at BCN on a five hour layover.
I remember those days, Pan Am and TWA jets got the same treatment at AMS. We also had to go down to a tent on the tarmac to have all of our luggage opened and searched. This all began after the Rome and Vienna airport attacks in Dec '85. What it didn't prevent was Lockerbie almost exactly three years later.
PanAmPaul From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 77 posts, RR: 0 Reply 83, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 24639 times:
fraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 84, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 24552 times:
Quoting PanAmPaul (Reply 83): I heard somewhere that El Al jets are still guarded at foreign airports. Not sure if this is true or not at this point but I don't doubt it was.
They are at FRA, or atleast they were a few years ago when I went through there last... The aircraft took off from the C concourse of T1 where many flights to the USA also took off from. Remember seeing a photo on here of an Armored Vehicle guarding the aircraft on the tarmac.
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Do you have the routing for 3JX? It seems it hasn't moved since its delivery from BFI and is still parked in DFW. I heard this aircraft also has the new livery.
Also what's the status of the 77W's painting? AA now has 3 to 4 77W's delivered right?
817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1404 posts, RR: 1 Reply 87, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 24164 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 86): Also what's the status of the 77W's painting? AA now has 3 to 4 77W's delivered right?
At the moment, the first one in the new livery should be revealed this coming week. They still have 2 i.e. N717AN and N718AN, The other 2 are still at PAE:
ryanov From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 17 posts, RR: 0 Reply 89, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 23885 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 59): Keep the new design on the the airframes which fly in North America. Find another tail design for the global flying in those not so friendly countries on the Department of State advisory list.
Didn't help on 9/11/2001.
BTW, I've since read your other post about not flying American because you're afraid of the response to the tail. May I recommend you also not go outside -- there's lightning out there. And definitely no autos.
MSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1571 posts, RR: 4 Reply 91, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 23619 times:
I noticed the other night during a Dallas Mavericks game that, as expected, the electronic signage at the American Airline center had the new branding. And I must say, it looked sharp.
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 92, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 23514 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 86): Do you have the routing for 3JX? It seems it hasn't moved since its delivery from BFI and is still parked in DFW. I heard this aircraft also has the new livery.
3JX operated a DFW YYZ turn today. I am not sure it is actually in the new colors. Does anyone know? Tomorrow 1/27 it is schedule to operate
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 93, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 23148 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 92): 3JX operated a DFW YYZ turn today. I am not sure it is actually in the new colors. Does anyone know? Tomorrow 1/27 it is schedule to operate
887 DFW-LAS
1496 LAS-DFW
1549 DFW-LAS
Yes it would be nice to know if this aircraft also wears the new livery and please keep me informed about this aircraft's schedule. I hope to photograph it in CUR.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6172 posts, RR: 9 Reply 94, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 23104 times:
Not a fan of the new logo, but watching the new American video I definitely think Horton is a lot more down to earth than Smisek in his videos.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
k900 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 2 posts, RR: 0 Reply 95, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 23221 times:
JFK
01/25/13
Have to say the new livery looks very sharp in person. The tail, especially, is very intricate and the different hues don't show up as well in photos as they do when you see it on the stand.
N908NN. AA B738. New AA livery roadshow at JFK 01/25/13.
N908NN. AA B738. New AA livery roadshow. JFK 01/25/13. Tail.
N908NN. AA B738. New AA livery roadshow at JFK 01/25/13. 2.
N908NN. AA B738. New AA livery roadshow at JFK 01/25/13. 3.
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 96, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 22975 times:
You really don't realize how intricate the tail is until you can see it up close. The blue is actually made up of dots as seen here. I took this photo yesterday at LGA
The first 77W is supposed to leave VCV tonight for DFW at 1700 arriving DFW at 2125 as flight 9708. Someone near VCV needs to get there with a camera!
couple more photos
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2148 posts, RR: 7 Reply 97, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 22830 times:
OK, in the previous post we see both DL and AA newest color scheme. Both were/are hated by a select few. To add fuel to this fire....which one looks better?
The early bird gets the worm, BUT...the second mouse gets the cheese!
sparky35805 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 98, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 22580 times:
The Delta tail looks better,but I like Americans Titles and logo better if that makes sense.I hated Americans livery when I first saw it,but it looks better now that Ive looked at several different photos.We only get MD80s and ERJs here in HS,so it will probably be a while before I see the real thing.
Sparky
JoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 99, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22459 times:
The first 777 in the new colours is 7LB due at DFW tonight at 2235. 7LC the third delivery will arrive DFW tomorrow at 1525, dont know if its sporting the new livery or not. So spotters be on your toes!
DL's looks so dated in that photo. The AA livery is definitely more exciting with all that shiny grey, but I like the fact that DL's tail doesn't make my eyes hurt...
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24916 posts, RR: 60 Reply 101, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 22239 times:
Have to say I will really miss the old AA logo but I actually do like the new one. Its rare I like new liveries these days but AA have done a decent job. Seeing the above pics reinforce that also.
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 102, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 22175 times:
Another 737 (3JY N914NN) was delivered on Friday from BFI and should now be at DFW. Anyone know if this one is in the new livery?
syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 104, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 21928 times:
Anyone have any idea where at ORD it'll be on Tuesday/Wednesday? I'll be coming in on Alaska Wednesday and would love to see it.
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 377 posts, RR: 1 Reply 105, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 21910 times:
Quoting syncmaster (Reply 104):
Anyone have any idea where at ORD it'll be on Tuesday/Wednesday? I'll be coming in on Alaska Wednesday and would love to see it.
It will be at the very visible K-19. You should easily see it from L but why not walk over to K and get a good look at it?
It will be there 3:00 – 7:00 p.m. on the 29th, and then 9:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m. leaving (for lunch I guess??) and on display 1:00 – 4:00 p.m. on the 30th. Then it flies to LAX, but only to the maintenance facility. The 31st is also the first day of scheduled 77W ops. I'm trying for the inaugural to GRU!!
syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 106, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21890 times:
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 105): It will be at the very visible K-19. You should easily see it from L but why not walk over to K and get a good look at it?
I plan on it, thanks for the info! That'll be perfect, my flight from PDX doesn't arrive until 1PM.
ord From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1370 posts, RR: 1 Reply 108, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21828 times:
I like the livery, but there are two inconsistencies that bother me. First, in some places (like the AA website), the airline is branded as 'American Airlines' with the logo. Yet in other places, like the livery, it just says 'American' with the logo. It should be the same everywhere, the way Delta or British Airways do it.
Second, everywhere I have seen the name American + logo lock-up, 'American' is center-aligned in the middle of the logo. Yet on the livery, the name American is flush at the bottom with the logo. A small detail, I know, but something I feel should be consistent across the board. Again look at Delta... the word Delta is always centered with the widget.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 114, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21182 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 112): Current 10day routing for 3JT/N908NN
Thanks N737AA, please keep us informed about the schedule of N908NN. I'm waiting for the aircraft to fly to CUR so I can photograph it. We have two daily flights from MIA to CUR of which one is an overnight flight.
Quoting N737AA (Reply 112): 3JX is routed to overnight in TUL on Tuesday night. If that remains the case I should be able to get a glimps at it.
Awesome, please let us know if this aircraft is in the new livery as well. And as I asked for N908NN, if you have the schedule for this aircraft, that would be awesome to.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 115, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21192 times:
Quoting realsim (Reply 113): Quoting A388 (Reply 111):
Nice, from which AA hub will AA start its 77W flights?
From DFW
Thanks, I thaught it would be doing one of AA's daily MIA-GRU rotations. AA will start with 4 77W's I'm assuming so on which route will the other aircraft be used?
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3175 posts, RR: 1 Reply 117, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 20765 times:
Quoting ord (Reply 108): First, in some places (like the AA website), the airline is branded as 'American Airlines' with the logo. Yet in other places, like the livery, it just says 'American' with the logo. It should be the same everywhere, the way Delta or British Airways do it.
AA has done it this way for many years, dating back at least to when the Massimo Vignelli identity was rolled out.
deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 118, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 20725 times:
Just saw her in person at DFW C2. I do agree that it looks much better in person. Nice little PR show AA is putting on. They had FA, pilots and maint crews working at the gate, on the plane and the tarmac to answer questions and take pictures for you.
I wish I was in DFW for the 773 walk through on Thursday.
jmw99ttu From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 37 posts, RR: 0 Reply 119, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20575 times:
Hey Delta, I was just down there too, bet I saw you! I agree that it is much better in person. The grey body looked nice, even on a cloudy day like today.
I was pretty impressed that they were allowing people on the tarmac. The ramper I talked to down there wasn't too impressed with the new livery. He did say change is hard to accept after 25 years with AA, and that it was growing on him a little more each day. I have to
I sat in a MCE seat while on there. I was impressed with the roominess. It was better than I thought it would be. It was also my first time to see the new Boeing Sky interior. It was really nice.
On a side note, I haven't seen any evidence of the new branding in the Terminal A Admirals Club...
deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 121, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20507 times:
77W will be at D23 on Thursday for the official event.
ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 123, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20495 times:
The one glaring problem with the new paint scheme are the winglets. They are simply painted gray like the fuselage. They used to have teh striping and AA.com. UA has blue winglets with a gold stripe. DL has blue winglets. I believe winglets on US has the flag logo, but it's been a while since I've seen a US jet up close. Virgin America has the U.S. flag waving in a breeze.
Couldn't AA have put the logo or a small version of the tail design on the winglet?
deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 124, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20471 times:
Quoting jmw99ttu (Reply 122): The 773 is parked over at the West hangar. I tried to get a picture when I was on the train, but it is really grainy and hard to see.
Didn't know that. I'm at AC in D now - I don't see it from here.
JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 125, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20128 times:
Quoting ord (Reply 108): I like the livery, but there are two inconsistencies that bother me. First, in some places (like the AA website), the airline is branded as 'American Airlines' with the logo. Yet in other places, like the livery, it just says 'American' with the logo. It should be the same everywhere, the way Delta or British Airways do it.
Second, everywhere I have seen the name American + logo lock-up, 'American' is center-aligned in the middle of the logo. Yet on the livery, the name American is flush at the bottom with the logo. A small detail, I know, but something I feel should be consistent across the board. Again look at Delta... the word Delta is always centered with the widget.
Every airline brand has inconsistencies. AA Has always used the "AmericanAirlines" text in print/web advertising, while using the shorthand 'American' on aircraft. Signage and materials not directly controlled by AA often use whichever logo.
Delta's livery is not entirely consistent. On some aircraft, the 'DELTA' titles appear smaller in proportion to the aircraft than they do on other models. The widget on the tail isn't always scaled the same either (the DC-9s have a larger widget compared to the MD-80/MD-90 tails).
United's post-merger livery isn't always consistent, either. On some aircraft (notably the 767 and 777) the UNITED titles are disproportionately huge compared to the narrobody aircraft.
AA's inconsistencies are comparatively minor. We'll see how things look once more aircraft start getting painted.
I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
ebs757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 757 posts, RR: 0 Reply 126, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 19976 times:
I was going to attempt to non rev into ORD tomorrow from AZO to see the new paint but the flights just don't work out for me due to class's. I asked American what the plans were for Wed. and they said the bird is leaving for LAX and that the 738 will only be at the gate K19 from 10am-1pm tomorrow. Part of me doesn't want to believe them. If I end up non reving in tomorrow I will have to arrive at 6:45am and leave at 10:45
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 127, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 20017 times:
Quoting ebs757 (Reply 126): I asked American what the plans were for Wed. and they said the bird is leaving for LAX and that the 738 will only be at the gate K19 from 10am-1pm tomorrow
It is scheduled to be at ORD on 12/29 from 3-7 and on 12/30 from 9-12 and 1-4. There are presentations given by the company that's why there is different time slots. The aircraft wont leave the gate but the presentations begin at the times listed
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 128, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 20013 times:
So N908NN (738) and N718AN (77W) are the only two painted?
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 129, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 19934 times:
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 128): So N908NN (738) and N718AN (77W) are the only two painted?
No one seems to know if there are any other 737's with the new livery. N914NN was delivered on Friday and 77W's N718AN and N719AN should both be at DFW now in paint if they painted 719 at PAE. N717AN is still at VCV
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 130, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 19928 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 129): N718AN and N719AN should both be at DFW now in paint if they painted 719 at PAE.
Skyliner says 719 was delivered in "basic cs, no titl" so I assume that means just the basic grey with white tail.
TUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 131, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 19904 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 129): No one seems to know if there are any other 737's with the new livery. N914NN was delivered on Friday and 77W's N718AN and N719AN should both be at DFW now in paint if they painted 719 at PAE. N717AN is still at VCV
There are only 2 painted so far, a 738 and a 773. The new 773 delivered today was painted like the first 2. The 2nd 773 should be close to being done with painting and should be ferried back to DFW soon.
aadc10137 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 192 posts, RR: 1 Reply 133, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 20085 times:
A special photo shoot at DFW today with 3 737's in different liveries!
jmw99ttu From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 37 posts, RR: 0 Reply 135, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19385 times:
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 136, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19029 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 129): No one seems to know if there are any other 737's with the new livery.
I have been asking the same question since the first aircraft in the new livery rolled out but so far I also haven't received an answer on whether 3JX and N914NN are in the new colors as well. It would sound logical but I don't know.
The 757 will also look very nice in AA's new livery!!! The livery has grown on me now I must admit!!!
Quoting aadc10137 (Reply 133): A special photo shoot at DFW today with 3 737's in different liveries!
That's probably a special time only for customers. The aircraft is going to be at ORD at the times I stated. Perhaps the other times are employee only events
martinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 138, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18861 times:
martinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 139, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 18679 times:
Check AA's facebook page. They just released photos of the first 77W in full colors. Looks stunning in my opinion.
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 377 posts, RR: 1 Reply 140, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 18384 times:
BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1869 posts, RR: 1 Reply 142, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18422 times:
I'm at ORD right now in the L gates waiting for my flight to PDX
AA 737-800 in new colors is parked across the way.
It's absolutely hideous in person. Just dreadful.
I usually like change and new looks. This is terrifying, looks corporate and unclean.
AVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 522 posts, RR: 1 Reply 143, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18308 times:
jfaubel From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 145, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 18108 times:
One thing I have noticed is that the livery lives and dies by the weather. On a sunny day, the scheme looks great, especially up close. However and unfortunately, overcast skies give the aircraft a more somber look. IMHO, pearl/metallic white would have been the best base coat. The simple presence of a metallic anything could be considered an ode to the brushed jets of the past, and pearl white would look much better in various lighting conditions.
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 146, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17931 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 114): Thanks N737AA, please keep us informed about the schedule of N908NN. I'm waiting for the aircraft to fly to CUR so I can photograph it. We have two daily flights from MIA to CUR of which one is an overnight flight.
Routings change often and hard to keep up with....its already changed, sticking close to MIA. It will be in DFW tonight from 1830-1915, maybe someone there can catch a glimps of it. It is overnighting in AUS tonight, if anyone from here is from AUS.
1956/29 SFO 0943 LAX 1038
2444/29 LAX 1231 DFW 1657
2011/29 DFW 1834 AUS 1914
1806/30 AUS 1018 JFK 1427
1039/30 JFK 1603 FLL 1848
1148/30 FLL 1957 JFK 2225
799/31 JFK 0816 ANU 1300
660/31 ANU 1427 JFK 1741
1787/31 JFK 2006 TPA 2236
1927/01 TPA 0932 MIA 1014
1946/01 MIA 1133 IAD 1339
1321/01 IAD 1443 MIA 1710
993/01 MIA 1852 MGA 2009
It is still undergoing its acceptance check at DFW (DWH) and is set to enter service on 30JAN. Here are the first few days routing, but it will probably change between now and then.
Quoting A388 (Reply 115): Thanks, I thaught it would be doing one of AA's daily MIA-GRU rotations. AA will start with 4 77W's I'm assuming so on which route will the other aircraft be used?
Both 7LA and 7LB are still at VCV with no routing information loaded yet, maybe tomorrow.
realsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 148, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17863 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 115): Thanks, I thaught it would be doing one of AA's daily MIA-GRU rotations. AA will start with 4 77W's I'm assuming so on which route will the other aircraft be used?
For now, they will only be used on DFW-GRU as the route needs 2 aircraft:
In March, this route will switch back to a 772, and DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR will start. Next ones will be JFK-GRU (April), LAX-LHR (June) and a second DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR. This will make 12 daily 77W flights, so with only 10 77W aircraft this year, I doubt we will see them in other routes until 2014.
ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 149, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17664 times:
Will all aircraft repainting be outsourced (such as VCV), or will TUL eventually start repainting with heavy maintenance work?
Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 142): It's absolutely hideous in person. Just dreadful.
I usually like change and new looks. This is terrifying, looks corporate and unclean.
Interesting, because a fair number of people think it looks better in person, as opposed to photos and video.
TUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 150, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17652 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 147): Both 7LA and 7LB are still at VCV with no routing information loaded yet, maybe tomorrow.
7LB is at DFW and will be on display tomorrow at gate D25. 7LA is still at VCV and should be back to DFW in the next day or so. N914NN is in old colors. Only 7LB and 3JT wear the new colors....7LA also has it, but still at VCV.
Wingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 216 posts, RR: 0 Reply 151, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17626 times:
Now that the wraps are off the new livery, are the others still going to be ferried to VCV for final painting, or will N719AN and those coming after be finished at DFW or TUL? I'm surprised 719 didn't go directly to VCV if that's where it now has to be ferried.
Worked for WestAir, Apollo Airways, Desert Pacific, Western, AirCal and American Airlines
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 154, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17486 times:
Quoting TUSAA (Reply 150): 7LB is at DFW and will be on display tomorrow at gate D25.
On display like go onboard or just look out the window?
TUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 155, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17491 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 154): On display like go onboard or just look out the window?
On display for employees and vendors to walk through, and to get everybody familiar with it. The 773 isn't that much different from the 772, but there are a few differences.
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 156, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 17395 times:
Quoting TUSAA (Reply 155): The 773 isn't that much different from the 772
Unless you're a flight attendant or a passenger. The interior of this plane is a drastic step up from the 772, and far more advanced in terms of its cabin systems.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 157, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 17210 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 147): Quoting A388 (Reply 114):
What about N914NN?
It is still undergoing its acceptance check at DFW (DWH) and is set to enter service on 30JAN. Here are the first few days routing, but it will probably change between now and then.
Hey N737AA, thanks for your very valuable information. It will come close to CUR (SJU-CCS) but I need it here Do you know if this aircraft wears the new AA livery? Please keep us informed about any aircraft in AA's new livery. I think there are a lot of people who want to photograph them, including me
Quoting N737AA (Reply 147): Both 7LA and 7LB are still at VCV with no routing information loaded yet, maybe tomorrow.
Quoting realsim (Reply 148): For now, they will only be used on DFW-GRU as the route needs 2 aircraft:
In March, this route will switch back to a 772, and DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR will start. Next ones will be JFK-GRU (April), LAX-LHR (June) and a second DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR. This will make 12 daily 77W flights, so with only 10 77W aircraft this year, I doubt we will see them in other routes until 2014.
Great, again thanks for the information guys, I really appreciate it. I am hoping for the 77W to be used from their MIA hub as well. I hope there will be some schedule changes
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 158, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16973 times:
Quoting TUSAA (Reply 150): 7LB is at DFW and will be on display tomorrow at gate D25. 7LA is still at VCV and should be back to DFW in the next day or so. N914NN is in old colors. Only 7LB and 3JT wear the new colors....7LA also has it, but still at VCV.
One computer entry showed it at VCV and another showed it at DFW, not sure why they didn't match.
Quoting A388 (Reply 157): Do you know if this aircraft wears the new AA livery?
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 159, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16846 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 158): One computer entry showed it at VCV and another showed it at DFW, not sure why they didn't match.
7LA is scheduled to ferry from VCV today at 1300 and arrive DFW at 1745. I have never seen those times go exactly as planned this far out but that is what is currently planned
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 160, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 16756 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 159): 7LA is scheduled to ferry from VCV today at 1300 and arrive DFW at 1745. I have never seen those times go exactly as planned this far out but that is what is currently planned
Yep I see that in DECS as of 0600 today.....ferry flights very rarely follow the plan....lots of variables.
Quoting A388 (Reply 157): Please keep us informed about any aircraft in AA's new livery.
The only one I can confirm is 3JT/N908NN as it is the only one I have seen with my own eyes. 3JX/N913NN overnighted in TUL last night but I missed its departure this morning so didn't get a chance to see what is was wearing.
You may be able to confirm it though as it is currently routed through CUR on 2/02, its a turn though so you will have to be quick.
3JX/N913NN
854/30 DFW 1040 JFK 1442
1071/30 JFK 1638 SJO 2026
614/31 SJO 0930 JFK 1510
257/31 JFK 1727 LAS 1947
264/01 LAS 0836 JFK 1611
1416/01 JFK 1809 BDA 2047
1325/02 BDA 0831 MIA 1019
1303/02 MIA 1157 CUR 1529
2276/02 CUR 1655 MIA 1843
869/02 MIA 2037 SJU 2345
535/03 SJU 1248 MIA 1417
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 161, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16665 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 160): You may be able to confirm it though as it is currently routed through CUR on 2/02, its a turn though so you will have to be quick.
3JX/N913NN
854/30 DFW 1040 JFK 1442
1071/30 JFK 1638 SJO 2026
614/31 SJO 0930 JFK 1510
257/31 JFK 1727 LAS 1947
264/01 LAS 0836 JFK 1611
1416/01 JFK 1809 BDA 2047
1325/02 BDA 0831 MIA 1019
1303/02 MIA 1157 CUR 1529
2276/02 CUR 1655 MIA 1843
Quoting N737AA (Reply 160): TUSAA said this about 3JY/N914NN
Quoting TUSAA (Reply 150):
N914NN is in old colors
So I guess thats that.
As usual thanks N737AA. So this actually means that N913NN most likely also is wearing the old livery.
You are literally out of your mind. Sky interior, walk-up bar for food and drinks, all aisle access F/J, 773 J beats 772 F, AVOD all cabins, int'l wifi, advanced avionics, increased fuel efficiency and range, NEED I GO ON?!
TUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 163, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 16435 times:
Quoting jfaubel (Reply 162): You are literally out of your mind. Sky interior, walk-up bar for food and drinks, all aisle access F/J, 773 J beats 772 F, AVOD all cabins, int'l wifi, advanced avionics, increased fuel efficiency and range, NEED I GO ON?!
The 773 will be parked at the terminal so employees can get familiar with things like jetbridge placement and fuel hookup. There are a few cargo handling differences and such. The 772 and 773 are a lot alike in some of the ground handling features, but there are some differences that need to be addressed. I wasn't referring to any of the cabin amenities or walk-up bar, etc. I doubt the fuelers or ramp guys really care about any of that stuff.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7992 posts, RR: 27 Reply 164, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16221 times:
Quoting jfaubel (Reply 162): You are literally out of your mind. Sky interior, walk-up bar for food and drinks, all aisle access F/J, 773 J beats 772 F, AVOD all cabins, int'l wifi, advanced avionics, increased fuel efficiency and range, NEED I GO ON?!
None of that has anything to do with ground handling...
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 167, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15666 times:
I noticed N916NN and N917NN also have started test flights. I now know that N913NN doesn't have the new AA livery so I'm assuming N913NN also doesn't have it but can anyone confirm if all these registrations have or don't have the new AA livery? N913NN will be flying to CUR so hopefully I can go to the airport that day.
My apologies for asking the same question again and again but I'm dying here to see the new livery
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 377 posts, RR: 1 Reply 168, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15312 times:
I'm at DFW now and I'm planning on flying with 7LA to GRU. They're going to have both 7LA and 7LB here at gates D23 and D25 with D23 inoperative. 7LA has some private event going on right now, but there is an open cabin tour for employees at 3pm which I will hopefully do and get pics up here for you of the new interiors.
PDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 88 posts, RR: 0 Reply 169, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15120 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 167): N913NN will be flying to CUR so hopefully I can go to the airport that day.
I think it's been confirmed N913NN (3JX) is in old colors, as is 3JY. I don't think AA would put a bird with the new scheme out on revenue flights until 3JT's tour was over. Next in line out the shop is 3KA, which I bet will arrive with the new livery.
If you are still set on checking it out though, N913NN is operating AA1303 tomorrow to CUR.
MakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 516 posts, RR: 0 Reply 176, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13921 times:
Quoting aadc10137 (Reply 133): A special photo shoot at DFW today with 3 737's in different liveries!
Beautiful shot. Amazing to realize how many years are covered by just three liveries, when practically every other airline would need several retrojets to depict the same time span.
BTW, it's always seemed to me that AAdvantage and similar service marks drew heavily from the double A on the tail. I feel like they've sort of "orphaned" these names given the new livery.
SXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2009 posts, RR: 19 Reply 177, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13925 times:
Quoting TUSAA (Reply 166): 763 ship 368 is scheduled to ROW on Friday for paint.
Does anyone know if 368 is sitting in ROW right now?
I am a bit curious as to the fate of the AA 738 retrojet, as well as what the "One World", and the Pink Ribbon Cancer Awareness specialty planes will look like when it comes time for them to get a repaint.
Does anyone have a list of when each A/C type will get its first repaint?
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 181, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13313 times:
N737AA & TUSAA,
I just checked flightaware and saw that the MIA-CUR flight today is not operated by N913NN as I previously understood. Has there been a (last minute) schedule change?
All I'm looking for is which 737's have been painted in the new livery now and which are planned for repainting. As far as I know these are the latest 737's AA has now:
N913NN, N914NN, N916NN & N917NN. The last two I understand are still undergoing test flights so maybe these have not been painted yet. N914NN according to TUSAA still has the old livery. What about the rest?
fraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 183, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13296 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 180): Quoting rj777 (Reply 179):
OK. We've got the 737 and we have the 77W painted. What's the next aircraft type to be painted?
A 763 was flown to ROW yesterday for paint
Maybe someone can begin a thread like the UA/CO fleet repaint/upgrade threads? I'm too lazy...
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
xcoaster1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 185, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13176 times:
N913AN is in the old livery despite recent delivery.
aacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 433 posts, RR: 2 Reply 187, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12843 times:
I love that tail. It looked so sharp in Sao Paulo, next to all other airlines, it looked so cool. As soon as everybody gets used to it, it will be the most recognizable tail at airports. Just beautiful!!!!
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3462 posts, RR: 11 Reply 188, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12366 times:
I like the logo, but that tail is hideous! If I first saw this on a different website I'd be convinced it was another ugly fanboy fantasy livery...the titles on the fuselage aren't bad though.
I was planning on missing the polished bare metal livery anyway, so I guess I can't get too bent out of shape over this...
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 189, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12356 times:
caliboy78 From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 190, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11893 times:
Last minute.... N908NN is now on the move:
1125/03 LAX 1150 SNA 1218 3JT
1076/03 SNA 1241 ORD 1755 3JT
485/03 ORD 1832 TUL 2004 3JTXX
548/04 TUL 0734 ORD 0900 3JT
548/04 ORD 1026 BOS 1319 3JT
187/04 BOS 1427 ORD 1552 3JT
555/04 ORD 1705 LAX 1906 XX
550/05 LAX 0618 ORD 1157
779/05 ORD 1320 SAN 1526
528/05 SAN 1628 ORD 2158 XX
qqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2198 posts, RR: 14 Reply 191, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11668 times:
It's nice to see AA utilizing logo lights again. I understand the reason for disabling/discontinuing their use -- apparently the bulbs burned out a lot and required constant replacement. They just became too costly. Thankfully AA has committed to utilizing logo lights on all new delivery a/c, and will even retrofit the 772 fleet and some older 738s with the system. Here's what the company said about logo lights:
"Our plan is to install tail logo lighting on the majority of our aircraft:
"This includes modifying our order for future deliveries so that the aircraft will arrive with the lighting system already installed, consisting of the 777-300ER, 787, Airbus A319/321 and new Boeing 737-800 aircraft.
"We will also retrofit our existing base of 777-200ER and certain 738 models to include the lighting installation over the next two years.
"Certain fleets that will eventually be retired, including 767-200/-300, 757, S80, and some 738 aircraft will not be retrofitted.
"Like all things, the retrofit will take some time before it is finished. By 2015, over half of our fleet will have their tails illuminated. We anticipate that by 2020 over 80 percent of our tails will be illuminated, lighting the sky."
The views expressed are mine alone and do not necessarily reflect my employer’s views.
xcoaster1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 192, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11520 times:
^ that is welcomed news .. with LED technology at least the "bulbs" will last longer than before.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 193, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11192 times:
Quoting caliboy78 (Reply 193): Last minute.... N908NN is now on the move:
1125/03 LAX 1150 SNA 1218 3JT
1076/03 SNA 1241 ORD 1755 3JT
485/03 ORD 1832 TUL 2004 3JTXX
548/04 TUL 0734 ORD 0900 3JT
548/04 ORD 1026 BOS 1319 3JT
187/04 BOS 1427 ORD 1552 3JT
555/04 ORD 1705 LAX 1906 XX
550/05 LAX 0618 ORD 1157
779/05 ORD 1320 SAN 1526
528/05 SAN 1628 ORD 2158 XX
Is the aircraft still doing promotional tours? When will it start scheduled service and which 737's are the next ones to receive the new livery?
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 194, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11153 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 196): Is the aircraft still doing promotional tours? When will it start scheduled service and which 737's are the next ones to receive the new livery?
The promotional tours are over, time for it to do its job hauling passengers and showing off the new American throughout the system.
Also not sure they the above routings are coming from but for today 2/4 3JT N908NN is scheduled to operate flight 1438 SAN-ORD and then flight 1113 ORD-CUN. Looks like the new paint scheme will get all slimed up with the orange and green sherbet at ORD today!
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 195, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10992 times:
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 194): The promotional tours are over, time for it to do its job hauling passengers and showing off the new American throughout the system.
Also not sure they the above routings are coming from but for today 2/4 3JT N908NN is scheduled to operate flight 1438 SAN-ORD and then flight 1113 ORD-CUN. Looks like the new paint scheme will get all slimed up with the orange and green sherbet at ORD today!
Thanks dtw757, please let me know should N908NN be heading to CUR
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 198, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10301 times:
For Feb 5, 3JT is currently scheduled for flights 418 CUN-ORD, 1852 ORD-BOS and 1049 BOS-ORD
piedmont727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 45 posts, RR: 0 Reply 203, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10000 times:
just saw the new 777-300 at dfw when i left yesterday they parked it by AAs north wester hangar by the cargo areas
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 204, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9909 times:
Quoting PDX88 (Reply 199): Heads up A388! 3JT (N908NN) is scheduled to fly to CUR on the 7th and overnight.
AA977 07Feb MIA-CUR
AA910 08Feb CUR-MIA
This can change, of course.
Still routed that way...as of right now. It is scheduled to overnight in CUR so you might be able to see it in the morning when it departs depending on your vantage point.
1410/07 PHX 0928 MIA 1506
977/07 MIA 1636 CUR 2008
910/08 CUR 0833 MIA 1019
2281/08 MIA 1138 SKB 1511
814/08 SKB 1632 MIA 1833
869/08 MIA 2037 SJU 2345
Quoting dtw757 (Reply 201): Quoting PDX88 (Reply 199):
Heads up A388! 3JT (N908NN) is scheduled to fly to CUR on the 7th and overnight
Just curious as to where these routings several days ahead come from?
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 205, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9951 times:
Quoting N737AA (Reply 204): 1410/07 PHX 0928 MIA 1506
977/07 MIA 1636 CUR 2008
910/08 CUR 0833 MIA 1019
2281/08 MIA 1138 SKB 1511
814/08 SKB 1632 MIA 1833
869/08 MIA 2037 SJU 2345
This is awesome, I will definately take photos. Please keep me informed and I hope the schedule remains as is
timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 210, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9636 times:
Quoting 28L28L (Reply 207): Can anyone confirm that N915NN (3KA) was in fact delivered in the new c/s?
While not exactly confirmation, N915NN is L/N 4322 and the aircraft shown in the following article to have been prepped for new colors. Whether it was delivered in full colors or just prepped for them like the 77Ws remains to be seen.
bizjet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 215, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9345 times:
Does anyone know when the first phase of the Terminal A renovation at DFW is to open? My understanding is early February. This will be the first airport space to feature the new branding and has been billed as "terminal of the future" by AA.
PennStation From United States of America, joined May 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0 Reply 217, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9148 times:
Concourse and shops are open today (the 5th). It'll be another three weeks or so until all the gates are usable. I don't know about TSA or ticket counter/bag check, but I doubt they'll open until the gates are in use.
rob2507 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 160 posts, RR: 0 Reply 218, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9058 times:
Caught the 737 arriving into BOS this afternoon as it passed over my workplace. Tough to tell whether I liked it in the low light/overcast. My first impression is that maybe if the flag didn't go all the way under the plane and just stayed on the tail it would look a lot better. Not a fan, but I want to see in sunny conditions...
PDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 88 posts, RR: 0 Reply 219, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8533 times:
A388,
3JT (N908NN) is now set to be in CUR twice on the 8th. Here is the upcoming schedule for the 7th and 8th...
1410/07 PHX 0928 MIA 1506
977/07 MIA 1636 CUR 2008
910/08 CUR 0833 MIA 1019
1303/08 MIA 1157 CUR 1529
2276/08 CUR 1655 MIA 1843
2191/08 MIA 2022 MEX 2231
blueman87 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 535 posts, RR: 0 Reply 234, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6624 times:
is N908NN in Regular service or there still showing it off???
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