jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7338 posts, RR: 52 Posted (5 months 14 hours ago) and read 4464 times:
Things have been very quiet here in SEA in regards to our pending service to HND later this year. We have yet to receive the final go from Washington. I understand that opponents of the award by the Federal Govt were in session voicing their cases shortly after award was given to us. Is that still going on? Is UA, HA, AA making some ground in getting the DOT to overturn its award? Any ideas?
jayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (5 months 10 hours ago) and read 4214 times:
I don't think the DOT will overturn their decision and award HND service to another airline. Although the other airlines may still be working behind the scene to get them to change their mind I'm sure Delta will get final approval very soon for this route.
SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 760 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 1 hour ago) and read 3520 times:
How long did it take from having provisional approval to final approval last time DL got the LAX and DTW slots? If I recall correctly it was a month or two at the very least as well.
Let's not forget that demand for HND has been less than expected for most airlines. There's not much reason why DL can't load the SEA-HND flight into its schedules as airlines regularly put up flights that are still pending approval up for sale.
Next year HND should open up coveted daytime slots for US Traffic which means DL could operate to HND at prime time slots. In all likelihood, DL is quite happy to have the DOT drag its feet before getting final approval so that they can operate at the current sub-optimal times the least amount of time possible.
What is unclear to me is wether carriers with currently nighttime slots (AA, HA and DL) will get first dibs on the new daytime slots or if there will be a new contest to determine who gets these daytime slots.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5566 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3151 times:
Quoting SR117 (Reply 3): Next year HND should open up coveted daytime slots for US Traffic which means DL could operate to HND at prime time slots. In all likelihood, DL is quite happy to have the DOT drag its feet before getting final approval so that they can operate at the current sub-optimal times the least amount of time possible.
What is counter-intuitive is that DL may have hard time getting at SEA for daytime departure to HND. Between 9am and 2pm, there's quite a bank of international flights that pretty much maximizes S-gate capacity.
Yukon880 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 113 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3091 times:
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Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 4): What is counter-intuitive is that DL may have hard time getting at SEA for daytime departure to HND. Between 9am and 2pm, there's quite a bank of international flights that pretty much maximizes S-gate capacity.
Seems like this would be something that DL planners would have already visited in preparation for their proposal. If it was necessary to depart between 0900 and 1400, and all other requirements were in order, I would wager they could find a place to park a 767 for boarding.
LH707330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 4): What is counter-intuitive is that DL may have hard time getting at SEA for daytime departure to HND. Between 9am and 2pm, there's quite a bank of international flights that pretty much maximizes S-gate capacity.
They could always move one of their 757s to another gate during that time....
Deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8628 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
Deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8628 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1671 times:
Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 9): We've been using the B concourse for overflow for the past several months during the midday push.
Ok sorry, B gates. I don't think they are Delta branded gates though.
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dlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 716 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
rwsea From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3024 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 993 times:
DL was at B for a long time, then moved to A somewhere around 2002-2003 when the rebuild of Concourse A was completed. Then they moved to S after the NW merger. As far as overflow, B is probably better due to the train connection from S (which is more convenient to the gates than the train stop near A).
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