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User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10899 times:

Throughout the 80s and early 90s CO served SYD and MEL with DC-10s and 747s. What routes did they operate? I assume they continued onto LAX from HNL, possibly including a stop in NAN on the first sector?

And when did they switch from the DC-10 to the 747?

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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1786 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10784 times:

For a start, here's a quote from a previous thread.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
We served SYD, MEL, CNS and BNE from HNL and AKL. We also flew SYD from GUM, too
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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8375 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10770 times:
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Continetal flew to Australia primarily via HNL but also via Tahiti and Fiji. CO got a fleet of DC-10-30 for the flights, 747 came a bit later when CO merged with People's Express. The 747 were rotated around the long haul fleet and flew with the DC-10's to Austrlia but didn't replace them. When Continenal declared Chapter 22 Bankruptcy in the early 1990's they stopped flying to Aussie since they didn't have nonstops from LAX to SYD as Qantas and United did.

User currently offlineCitationjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10746 times:

I found lots of Continental timetables from that era listed on the following site:
http://airchive.com/html/timetable-a...-timetables-route-maps-and-history

I am not sure when they started Australia service, but their 1982 schedule shows service to Australia.



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User currently offlineFlyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10649 times:

They flew to Sydney first in the very early 80s then taged Melbourne on to that Sydney flight, I think the flight was LAX/HNL/SYD/MEL then they delinked Melbourne from the Sydney flight and flew MEL/AKL//HNL/LAX and SYD/AKL/HNL/LAX. Thought out the 80s and 90s right up till they stopped serving Australia they used both the DC-10-30s and the 742 then in late 1992 they stopped serving Australia altogether which was a shame because their service was great I did a MEL/AKL/HNL/LAX flight back in 92, leaving LA we was 2 hours late leaving and missed our connecting flight to MEL and had an 8 hour stay in Honolulu put up in a nice hotel and a great tour around Honolulu. That night 2 CO flights heading out to Australia the MEL flight was going via Auckalnd using a DC-10-30 while the Sydney flight was a 742. Its strange seeing the globe livery back at MEL with UA titles on it. I Miss the tulip blue livery that was UA best livery ever but miss Continental the airline aswell.

User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3261 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10599 times:

Here are some route maps that may help you out:

1971 - No Australia, but several small south pacific stops on milk runs. http://www.departedflights.com/CO103171.html
1978 - The year prior to Australia service, with authorized routes but not yet being flown -
http://www.departedflights.com/CO043078.html
1979 - It's on, CO is flying to Sydney & Auckland - http://www.departedflights.com/CO060179.html
1980 - The Pacific flying is flying on CO Micronesia - http://www.departedflights.com/CO090880.html

[Edited 2013-01-20 06:18:10]


AA AC AQ AS BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OO OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WC WN
User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 851 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10593 times:

Here is a route map from 1985.

http://www.departedflights.com/CO090485.html

As you can see, all flights at the time, went via HNL and then on to either NAN, SYD or AKL. The 747s came back after the merger with PE, in 1987.

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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 10434 times:

HNL-AKL-BNE (4x weekly)
HNL-AKL-CNS (3x weekly)
HNL-SYD
HNL-MEL

Most of the flights originated on The US West coast, however they did have direct service from JFK to SYD-MEL from the mid '80s to the late '80s via HNL.



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10316 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
HNL-AKL-CNS

We never flew AKL-CNS, we did fly AKL-MEL. We served CNS from HNL and GUM. Routing was HNL-CNS-BNE-HNL.



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User currently offlineWTXJET From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8992 times:

Don't forget the LAX-PPT-AKL. This was flown I know in 1987 and I don't remember the end date. If my memory is correct, it was served only a few times per week. I don't remember if this flew onto MEL or SYD.

[Edited 2013-01-20 12:20:12]

User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8714 times:

They also served GUM-CNS, and UA continues to operate the route.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8605 times:

Quoting WTXJET (Reply 9):
I don't remember if this flew onto MEL or SYD.

The a/c went onto AKL and SYD from PPT.



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User currently offlinePagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

Summer of '78 or '79 we flew CO, DC 10, from HNL to PPG to visit friends/family. While in PPG the DC 10 was grounded, (ORD). CO picked up our hotel/meals tab and a week later (?), PA 747 diverted from PPT to pick us up.

User currently offlinePSAJet17 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7140 times:

I joined CO in 1979 and service to Sydney and Auckland was already in place. The flight from HNL to SYD stopped in either PPT or PPG while the HNL-AKL flight stopped in PPG. The incident in ORD with AA191 on May 25th 1979 and the subsequent grounding of DC-10s were crippling to CO as we had no long range aircraft to replace the 10's.

User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

Airmike used to have DC-10 service GUM-BNE-SYD-GUM

User currently offlinepusserchef From Australia, joined Apr 2010, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 10):
They also served GUM-CNS, and UA continues to operate the route.

UA98 flies out of Guam on thursday afternoons and arrives into Cairns just prior to midnight (local) and UA99 departs approx 0120 friday (local) mornings. These flights currently use a B738 or 73G.


User currently offlineecuatoriana707 From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4111 times:

In 1990 I flew on a CO DC10 from SYD - HNL - LAX. I remember there was still a lounge area between the business and economy cabin. In 1991 I flew LAX-HNL-CNS-BNE again on a DC10 but this one had no lounge area.

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
Here are some route maps that may help you out:

1971 - No Australia, but several small south pacific stops on milk runs. http://www.departedflights.com/CO103171.html
1978 - The year prior to Australia service, with authorized routes but not yet being flown -
http://www.departedflights.com/CO043078.html
1979 - It's on, CO is flying to Sydney & Auckland - http://www.departedflights.com/CO060179.html
1980 - The Pacific flying is flying on CO Micronesia - http://www.departedflights.com/CO090880.html

Raises the question, what happened to Continental Hotels? Do they still exist? Do they have a new owner/name? And why only at these small Pacific islands?


User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1786 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

Now I remember that CO ordered these two DC-10-30s specifically for their Pacific network. Until their delivery in 1980, CO only operated DC-10-10s/-10CFs.


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User currently offlinePSAJet17 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

With the early CO service HNL-SYD (approx 5000 miles) it required the DC-10-10 in use to stop either in PPT or PPG since the stated range of a -10 was only 3800 miles.

I was with CO in 79/80 and don't remember AirMike having DC-10s at the time, only B727 and most were being flown by former WWII pilots, some who had seen action in the Marshall Islands and could tell some great stories while making the approach to Truk or Kwajalein.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Quoting pusserchef (Reply 15):
UA98 flies out of Guam on thursday afternoons and arrives into Cairns just prior to midnight (local) and UA99 departs approx 0120 friday (local) mornings. These flights currently use a B738 or 73G.

Its only once a week now?


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 20):
Its only once a week now?

2x, Thursday and Sunday.



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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1786 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 19):
With the early CO service HNL-SYD (approx 5000 miles) it required the DC-10-10 in use to stop either in PPT or PPG since the stated range of a -10 was only 3800 miles.

They had to rely on those two -30s for almost two years before getting another pair from the second-hand market.

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 19):
I was with CO in 79/80 and don't remember AirMike having DC-10s at the time, only B727 and most were being flown by former WWII pilots

They were probably leased in from CO when required and with no special markings.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Quoting CARST (Reply 17):
And why only at these small Pacific islands?

If memory correct it was because there was virtually no adquate hotel accommodation on many of the small islands served by CO's Air Micronesia operation so the hotels were built to assist in developing tourist traffic.

It was a smaller-scale equivalent of Pan Am's InterContinental Hotels subsidiary which built the first hotels that met international standards in many smaller Pan Am destinations all over the world.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Lots of DC-10-10's 6 or so

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot..._id+desc&page_limit=15&thumbnails=


25 SpaceshipDC10 : Compared to UA or AA DC-10-10 fleets, that wasn't that much. For a while (about three years) CO had 16 DC-10-10/-10CF
26 COSPN : Well its alot for Guam an Island of 160,000 now only 2 UA 777-200's operate to Guam
27 SpaceshipDC10 : That way I can understand it was lots.
28 CARST : Hey thx for that answer Viscount! I did not know that both airlines had hotels. Only knew about Swissair and SAS. I recently wondered when checking i
29 SpaceshipDC10 : When Pan Am went bust, the Intercontinental were long gone from its assets. They were sold during the '80s when the company needed a lot of money due
30 Viscount724 : TWA also owned Hilton International (only the international hotels, not the U.S. domestic operation) from 1964 to 1986, when they sold Hilton Interna
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