justinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4252 times:
According to the online booking system of Air China, they will start to serve 3xweekly CTU-FRA from May 19th. CTU is the second largest hub for Air China and the busiest airport in West China.
FRA will be the 3rd EU destination of Chengdu. Now KLM serves CTU-AMS and BA plans to start CTU-LHR from September. Besides, EY now serves CTU-AUH and QR will start to serve CTU-DOH on March. It seems that the competition of serving West China to Europe becomes white hot now!
mdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4043 times:
This is a big step forward for Chinese aviation and Western China. The first Euro airlink by a Chinese carrier west of PEK, PVG and CAN (except URC). I hope it works out for them. This is definitely a bold move to share the flow of European traffics. I bet EY and QR will be the most unhappy with this move as they are hoping to benefit from this untapped market. Geographically speaking Middle East is actually a long detour for Western China - EU so if enough carriers serve this market nonstop the prices of one stop will get so low it will become non profitable. Obviously I am talking about a few years from now.
I wonder if CA will try CKG-FRA also one day. I bet they will.
acedriver From China, joined Nov 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3763 times:
Interesting stuff, Chengdu really seems to be developing itself into the Western international hub of China. I really do look forward to seeing how this will affect intl traffic in CAN and PVG.
Just wondering, will LH code share this flight?
LJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 1): . I bet EY and QR will be the most unhappy with this move as they are hoping to benefit from this untapped market.
I doubt. I think KL will be most unhappy as they had a monopoly between Europe and Chengdu and suddenly see both BA and CA tap into their market. Don't know the schedules, but for QR and to a lesser extent EY) CTU - Africa connections would be an interesting market.
bogoss From China, joined May 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3621 times:
Chengdu is on fire!
I agree KL will be the one that is going to worry, first BA joining to share the UK market(largest from CTU), now CA to the heart of Europe...
Also a real challenge for Chengdu, with 2 ME airlines and 3 direct European routes, I wonder if all of them can last...
Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 1): I wonder if CA will try CKG-FRA also one day. I bet they will.
CKG for CA is far less important than what CTU means to it, that's decided already by China Southwest when it was still around, after the merger CTU has become the 2nd biggest hub of CA, yet it still took CTU a decade for this day to come as CA always has PEK as priority for long hauls then PVG for some fun. And CKG in this case is poorly developed by CA, even in East Asia there's only 1 or 2 or 3 destinations I am not so sure, so unless CA is taking a strategic move, I don't see that coming soon, say, in 5 or 8 years...
Quoting Fuling (Reply 14): DolphinAir747 has asked, will LH code share? But I wonder if LH may eventually fill the gap on the days CA doesn't operate CA431/CA432?
According to the cooperation scheme of LH and CA, they will definitely code share on this route. They will also code share on some connection routes from CTU.
Personally, I really doubt whether LH will step into this market in the near future. Although LH is very aggressive in developing the 2nd tier markets in China, we can see that the competition on CTU will be fierce next year. But who knows, if CA can really get a good performance , why doesn't LH join the party