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70-seat RJs In The US?  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4198 posts, RR: 33
Posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Which airlines will order the 70/100-seat regional jets from Fairchild Dornier, Embraer and Bombardier? Atlantic coast Airlines Air Wisconsin? Continental Express? Delta Connection Carriers? Frontier Express? Hope for your answers


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User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Mesa has already ordered the CRJ-700 from bombardier.

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User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

One of NWA's two regional carriers, Mesaba, has ordered them. Great planes. Really cool looking i think.

User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

The IPO spinoff of Continental Express will allow the pilot's contract to permit the flying of 70-seat RJs in the fleet. Whether or not ExpressJet Airlines takes advantage of this offer or not, there's a gap between the 50-seat RJ and 104-seat 737-500 that Continental might like to fill, being that they tned to fill lots of gaps in the fleet by ordering new aircraft(for example, the ordering of the 764 to fill the 757-777 gap and the ordering of 757-300s to fill the 762-764 gap)

User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

During Delta pilot negotiations I heard ASA/Delta Connection has some 70 seaters on order, but the scope clause of the Delta pilot contract limited the connection carriers to just those jets on order at the time of the contract signing.
Hope that helps some.

User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

USAirways is looking into 70-seat regional jet aircraft too.

User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

I think in about five years' time or so, scope-clause opposition's gonna basically be gone from the picture and as many carriers want 'em, will order them (or trade 'em or lease and so on).

But in the meantime,even before it gets chipped away more and more as a barrier, the scope-exempted codeshare guys like Mesa and Horizon seem to be leading the way for North American implementation of the bigger RJs.

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Mesaba didn't order 70 seat CRJS, They ordered the 44 seat CRJ.

Mesaba doesn't need a 70 seat CRJ when they have the 69 seat ARJ85. The whole reason why the ARJ85 has only 69 seats is due to problems with the unions so the planes have to be under 70 seats

User currently offlineCapt. Spud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

The RJs are taking jobs away from major airline pilots because of their over-use. It may not seem like it now to commuter pilots but when they get to the majors, they will definately notice it.

RJs are good, and they have their uses, but they could affect the majors and their pilots in a negative way someday.

This is just my opinion though.

User currently offline737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Horizon has 30 CRJ-70s on order and has already recieved its first two. Comair, ASA and American Eagle all have orders for the CRJ-70, as well as the already mention Mesa for its AmericaWest Express divison. So far, Bombardier has been the only manufacturer to sell a 70 seater in the US.

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User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

I don't think you'll see many 70/90 seaters out there. As the previosu posters have all confirmed most of the new contracts being signed do allow the regionals to buy some additional 50 and smaller seater RJs, but stricitly limit the top end to 70 and the total number of those. The CRJ has by far the leas, the only 70 seater EMB I see possible in the near future would be with CoEx when they are sold, even that will be limited. I think the Dornier may have missed the cut, late arrival and cancelation of the 428 angered numerous carriers, SkyWay is getting rid of their 328s in favor of the EMB, and ACA had to go out and buy more CRJs to take the place of DO428s they had ordered.
As for the 90 seaters, only Mesa will be getting them, these will be operated on their own as far as I know.

The real market is in the 44 seater and smaller area. American Eagle, ACA, Comair, Northwest Airlink, Trans World Express, and Contiental Express are all getting these as of now.

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