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Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations  
User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 19296 times:

We all hear the comment regarding how TK announces a long wishlist of destinations that never materalizes. This year we might see that quashed a bit, with 10 destinations off the list now firmed and open for reservation and more obviously coming soon.

The following is a recap of firmed but yet to start destinations:

IST-KUL from Apr 25
TK060 IST0115 – 1650KUL 343 x257
TK061 KUL2315 – 0535+1IST 343 x257

IST-MLE-CMB (MLE already flown) from Feb 1
TK730 IST0015 – 1100MLE1215 – 1415CMB 330 3
TK730 IST0110 – 1155MLE1310 – 1510CMB 330 x236

TK731 CMB2140 – 2240MLE0010+1 – 0545+1IST 330 x37

IST-DLA-LBV-IST (DLA already flown) from Jan 31
TK591 IST1745 – 2355DLA0055+1 – 0210+1LBV0310+1 – 1130+1IST 739 247

IST-IAH from Apr 1
TK033 IST1305 – 1805IAH 77W x347
TK034 IAH1950 – 1555+1IST 77W x347

IST-SCQ from May 21
TK1319 IST0900 – 1245SCQ 319 257
TK1320 SCQ1350 – 1915IST 319 257

IST-TLL-VNO-IST from Jun 11
TK1355 IST1100 – 1420TLL1520 – 1645VNO1745 – 2010IST 319 246

IST-CND from Jun 7
TK1049 IST1305 – 1415CND 319 357
TK1050 CND1515 – 1625IST 319 357

IST-SZG from May 21
TK1381 IST1215 – 1345SZG 738 x357
TK1382 SZG1445 – 1805IST 738 x357


IST-LUX from Jun 25
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235

TK1354 LUX1245 – 1700IST 738 7
TK1354 LUX1245 – 1700IST 319 235

And there are new flights from SAW to MXP, LGW, AMS, CDG, VIE, each daily.

In addition, there are upped frequencies across the board.

Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

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User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 18839 times:

Oh, and the source is airlineroute.net, before my post gets deleted...

User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 18578 times:

Still no BLR on that list  ...Im still holding out hope!

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 18107 times:

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 2):
Still no BLR on that list ...Im still holding out hope!

I heard they were trying to get some new Indian points added, but the Indian govt was holding off approval. Evidently, India is seeing TK as another TK/QR and it trying to protect its own carriers.

Incidentally, any confirmation that some of the Jet 777s are going back to TK?


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9832 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 18099 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Where is MIA?

A388


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 18024 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?

Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.


User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 18014 times:

Do they have any plans for DTW.

User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 17932 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
IST-MLE-CMB (MLE already flown) from Feb 1

Will they sell flights between MLE and CMB?


User currently offlinejfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 17736 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
This year we might see that quashed a bit, with 10 destinations off the list now firmed and open for reservation and more obviously coming soon.

I went to TK's US website and tried to book a flight to TLL in June, and it didn't even recognize TLL as a destination.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13139 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 17506 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
Evidently, India is seeing TK as another TK/QR and it trying to protect its own carriers.

Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

It will be interesting. Of the 'regional airlines' that grow quickly, TK will certainly be at the top for growth.

Lightsaber



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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 17384 times:

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 7):
Will they sell flights between MLE and CMB?

System says:

TK 730 MONDAY 11 FEB 13
---------------------------------------------------------------
BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP E
IST 0110 I I MLE 1155 I 7:45/ 1:15 330 E
MLE 1310 I CMB 1510 I 1:30 330 E
---------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FLYING TIME IST - CMB 9:15
TOTAL GROUND TIME IST - CMB 1:15
TOTAL JOURNEY TIME IST - CMB 10:30
---------------------------------------------------------------
TRC TEXT
A MLECMB NO BOARDING THIS CITY


So no, no sales on the short flight.



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User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 929 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 17378 times:

TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...


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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 17074 times:

Krakow? Yes, please  

User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 16909 times:

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 12):

AFAIK LO is against TK starting KRK and the current bilateral gives them the power to stall things...


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2614 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 16584 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 13):
AFAIK LO is against TK starting KRK and the current bilateral gives them the power to stall things...

Darn, that's bad news. I wonder why would LO block TK's desire to fly to KRK. Do they have a KRK - IST flight?


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 16434 times:

Happy to see more confirmed destinations today. 28 left in the wish list.

31.01. Libreville
01.02. Colombo (over Male)
01.04. Houston
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
28.05. Salzburg
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

After these destinations started, TK will fly to 103 countries and 228 destinations.

As I mentioned before in the Turkish Aviation January Topic, the following destinations could be in long-term future on the wish list:

Australia / New Zealand

Melbourne
Sydney
Perth
Auckland


North America

Vancouver
Calgary
San Juan (when Havana will be a success, why not?)
Miami
Seattle
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia
Dallas


South America

Rio de Janeiro
Quito
Lima
Santiago de Chile


Asia

Manila
Taipeh
Nagoya
Bandar Seri Begawen
Phnom Penh
Lahore
Peshawar
Bangalore
Hyderabad
Kochi
Chengdu
Shenyang
Xiamen
Xi'an


Africa

Marrakech
Gaborone
Harare
Windhoek
Lusaka
Durban


Europe

Bratislava
Graz
Dubrovnik
Bordeaux
Dresden
Dortmund
Reykjavik
Florence
Verona
Alicante
Seville
Bergen
Gdansk
Katowice
Porto
Novosibirsk
Perm
Samara
Yekaterinburg
Glasgow
Newcastle


User currently offlineamax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 15929 times:

Good luck, TK! You can do it!

User currently offlinedtw9 From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1159 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 15703 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.

A little more than just rumors and hot air

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11690...irlines-will-boost-us-service.html


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 15438 times:

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 17):

Thanks for the source. CEO Temel Kotil said that the weakest region of TK is North America. So they would like to boost it in future. Therefore there are Boston and San Francisco on the wish list. I think there will be 2-3 more in the next years.


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 15082 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?
Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 6):

Do they have any plans for DTW.
Quoting globalflyer (Reply 11):

TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...

As we a-nutters know, TK loves to put some "wishlist" years before they actually materialize, or sometimes not. So unless and until, they are loaded in GDS and bookable ... you can't be sure. That's why we, TK fans, are so excited to see when the list gets shorter and new destinations are "officially" announced. 


User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 14282 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):

Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

It will be interesting. Of the 'regional airlines' that grow quickly, TK will certainly be at the top for growth.

Lightsaber

Its not surprising to me either. Hopefully TK does launch BLR sooner than later...but for now their codeshare with AI is probably sufficient for the time being.


User currently offlineflyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4980 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 13806 times:

YYC-IST? Now i've seen it all!

User currently offlinektachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 13060 times:

At least the TK Japan branch has been stating IST-NGO for several years now and never materialized.

It sounds like IST is completely over its capaity before it can ever materialize.



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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 13034 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):
Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

Doubtful. TK (along with SA) supported AI's *A bid to the very end. TK and AI have already increased the scope of their codeshare agreement twice, and will soon once again (next 3-4 months as per current plans)



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3636 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 12950 times:

I remember reading some articles that TK was considering flights to Ioannina, Greece (LGIO). Any chance of that happening anytime soon?

User currently offlineUA191 From Canada, joined Apr 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months ago) and read 12398 times:

Anybody ever think TK will consider MCO?


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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 8 months ago) and read 12349 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.

I am also waiting... Solidly on the wish list for now. MIA is not going to be easy for them.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
South America

How about BOG and PTY? BOG as a tag to another city due to elevation. Plus these are *A hubs...


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12605 times:

Somewhat related question, but is there any formula as to when the A32S or 737 families are used on certain routes? 319 or 738 I can somewhat understand in specific cases as they are different capacities, but is there any reasons why a 738 be used vs a A320 for example or is it just random?

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
IST-LUX from Jun 25
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235

LUX for example is operated by both, why not 319 & 320 or 73G & 738?



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User currently offlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12641 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 27):
Somewhat related question, but is there any formula as to when the A32S or 737 families are used on certain routes? 319 or 738 I can somewhat understand in specific cases as they are different capacities, but is there any reasons why a 738 be used vs a A320 for example or is it just random?

Probably not. I used to fly MAD-IST-MAD quite often, and to me it looked like any narrow body (A319/320 or B73X; they only fly widebodies to Spain for BCN) would operate that route depending on the day or frequency for apparently no other reason. Certainly TK could try to homogenize their fleet (they also seem to fly any other available wide body).


User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12185 times:

Impressive. TK is now one of only a few of the large network carriers that in their international network (intend to) fly to places that I actually need to look up on a map to find out where they are (Lankaran - didn't know that place even existed!).

How is TK doing financially? It is always excited to see a quality carrier expand to so many places, but can they manage that growth, operationally and financially?


User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12132 times:

Now I just wait for 777 to ORD. I'd really like to try TK's premium economy product soon.


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User currently offlinecaliatenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11754 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 23):

Doubtful. TK (along with SA) supported AI's *A bid to the very end. TK and AI have already increased the scope of their codeshare agreement twice, and will soon once again (next 3-4 months as per current plans)

Does this mean TK will not add any more destinations in India?


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11583 times:

Quoting Mozart (Reply 29):
How is TK doing financially?

In USD and from 2011 back to 2004:




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User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11473 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
As I mentioned before in the Turkish Aviation January Topic, the following destinations could be in long-term future on the wish list:

(...)

South America

Rio de Janeiro
Quito
Lima
Santiago de Chile

Just a note: Brazil's main national hub and the 6th busiest airport of Latin America – Brasilia – is right on TK's way to Santiago de Chile. Furthermore, TK's 332 can operate IST-BSB-IST nonstop.


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11429 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 26):
How about BOG and PTY? BOG as a tag to another city due to elevation.

Bogota and Caracas are on the wish list by TK. I think the routing will be IST-BOG-CCS-IST.
After Havana and Mexico started and the LF is good, everything is possible, also PTY, but in long-term future.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 27):
LUX for example is operated by both, why not 319 & 320 or 73G & 738?

I think that will be random.

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 33):
Just a note: Brazil's main national hub and the 6th busiest airport of Latin America – Brasilia – is right on TK's way to Santiago de Chile. Furthermore, TK's 332 can operate IST-BSB-IST nonstop.

It could be. But in my opinion Rio de Janeiro has more chance than Brasilia. A routing IST-GIG-SCL-GIG-IST is possible.

Quoting UA191 (Reply 25):

Anybody ever think TK will consider MCO?

after Boston and San Francisco started, why not? More US destinations will be put on the wish list in future I think.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11339 times:

Congrats to TK!
All this possible with a fleet of around 200 jets and IST busting at seams!
If were to look into the future, say 10 years; TK might have another 30+ Wide Bodies (plus possibly some 380 and 350s), 100+ Narrow Bodies, a brand new airport with 6 runways.....I have no idea how many more routes TK would be flying.
We are talking about a major airline and a major hub then.
Who would have guessed it 10 years ago.


User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10843 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 34):
It could be. But in my opinion Rio de Janeiro has more chance than Brasilia. A routing IST-GIG-SCL-GIG-IST is possible.

TK and EK or QR are completely different airlines with distinct hub aspects, and that even explains one operates just 4 weekly flights to Sao Paulo whereas the others operate daily.
Besides that, the logic applied to Sao Paulo is not eligible to rest of the markets in Brazil.
As a result, TK would not succeed if take the same steps of EK and QR in Brazil with the inclusion of Rio de Janeiro.
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.


User currently offlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10802 times:

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 36):
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.

If TK wants to get to a star hub in the area they should do IST-PTY !


User currently offlineMSN007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10337 times:

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 11):
TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...

I don't think this is possible as the flight out of IAD is pretty much full most of the time.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9832 posts, RR: 11
Reply 39, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9990 times:

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 37):
Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 36):
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.

If TK wants to get to a star hub in the area they should do IST-PTY !

BOG will have a far bigger role in the (near) future as a Star Alliance hub in South America than PTY is so TK is much better off serving BOG if they have a long term vision.

A388


User currently offlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9949 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 39):
BOG will have a far bigger role in the (near) future as a Star Alliance hub in South America than PTY is so TK is much better off serving BOG if they have a long term vision.

A388

Is there service to CNF, LIR, REC, MAO, COR, POA, TGU and MGA from BOG?

CM serves all of those from PTY while BOG does not.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9832 posts, RR: 11
Reply 41, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9713 times:

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 40):
Is there service to CNF, LIR, REC, MAO, COR, POA, TGU and MGA from BOG?

How important are these destinations? Does CM have a coverage in Brazil just as how AV has through AV Brasil? How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)? Does CM have the inflight product that TK would like on the routes they serve throughout South America? AV scores better here too. Does PTY have a bigger local market compared to BOG? Even though both might have smaller markets, it does count as BOG/Colombia is much more attractive due to its much larger local market than can also fill the TK flight.

A388


User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 42, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9698 times:

Quoting UA191 (Reply 25):

considering MCO? maybe, but in the near future I don't see it happening nor being high on their list. there are more important markets in NA before MCO for TK.


User currently offlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9437 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
How important are these destinations?

CNF MAO REC POA are second tier Brazilian destinations after GRU/GIG. COR is second tier Argentina. TGU MGA are capital cities.

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
Does CM have a coverage in Brazil just as how AV has through AV Brasil? How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)?

You have to fly to GRU (not BOG) to get to any Avianca Brasil destination which TK is already doing.

CM serves more destinations in Brazil with PTY than Avianca with BOG.

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)? Does CM have the inflight product that TK would like on the routes they serve throughout South America? AV scores better here too.

If you are on an AV A330 from BOG-GRU that can't be beat by anything CM flies. However who has more problems with IRROPS in their main hub?

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
Does PTY have a bigger local market compared to BOG?

Don't have access to these numbers but BOG would be the bigger local market to IST and to the connections markets IST offers.


User currently onlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3958 posts, RR: 22
Reply 44, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9420 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?

I believe it's in Florida...........   



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32797 posts, RR: 71
Reply 45, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9364 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 26):
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.


I am also waiting... Solidly on the wish list for now. MIA is not going to be easy for them.

It's not going to be high fare goldmine, but filling the plane will be insanely easy. Turkish will return to MIA in due time, and probably sooner rather than later. It has been pretty clear of a desire to return, but like a lot that comes out from Turkish, it is just talk for now.

MIA, SFO, DTW, YUL, BOS and ATL all are logical expansion points.



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User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9346 times:

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 14):
Darn, that's bad news. I wonder why would LO block TK's desire to fly to KRK. Do they have a KRK - IST flight?

No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.


User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 47, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9129 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 46):
No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.

and how are they doing this? I mean the blocking...


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9123 times:

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 47):

The current archaic bilateral has given LO a saying in TK operations to Poland... It has to change.


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8991 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 46):
No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.

How is this consistent with the the european free trade area. Every company should be able to offer its product and services wherever it wants within this trade area.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9832 posts, RR: 11
Reply 50, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8904 times:

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 43):
CM serves more destinations in Brazil with PTY than Avianca with BOG.

Why use PTY when TK can use AV in Brasil where they already fly to?

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 43):
However who has more problems with IRROPS in their main hub?

I don't know how AV's operation is but it isn't bad and we must also no forget that AV has seen big growth in the last few years and still has a lot of growth to go through. CM isn't even close to what AV will eventually become. So yes, to TK an airline like AV is much more attractive than CM.

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 44):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?


I believe it's in Florida...........

Good one 

A388


User currently onlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3958 posts, RR: 22
Reply 51, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 50):

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 44):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?


I believe it's in Florida...........

Good one

Yeah, it was to tempting to pass up.  



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8492 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 49):
How is this consistent with the the european free trade area. Every company should be able to offer its product and services wherever it wants within this trade area.

Turkey is not part of EU, so this provision does not apply.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 53, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8055 times:

Btw, make that 11... IST-AQJ (Aqaba, Jordan) starts on Apr 3rd.

TK818 IST0120 – 0345AQJ 73W 357
TK819 AQJ0445 – 0715IST 73W 357

Source: airlineroute.net


User currently offlinemiaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7809 times:

So what makes TK want to discard MIA? Is it the low-yield? I remember reading a year ago that TK's CEO was eyeing expansion to Miami, but now it wants to pass that up in favor for HAV?? An even lower-yielding market!!!!

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 55, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7406 times:

So, should we add OPO to the list?

User currently offlinesantos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 55):
So, should we add OPO to the list?

It's already on the list, look up on reply 15


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 57, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7279 times:

Quoting santos (Reply 56):

It's already on the list, look up on reply 15

Thanks, but I think that is the wish list of "Yakamoz", not TK.
The original post of "TK Destination Wishlist" is a list of cities at least mentioned by the TK top brass.


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

Quoting santos (Reply 56):

You find in the first post the official wish list. My post is a view in future of think about potential destinations. Sorry for the confusion.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 59, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

Make it 12.... MRS announced, starting Jun 4.

TK1365 IST1125 – 1345MRS 738 x146
TK1366 MRS1435 – 1835IST 738 x146

http://airlineroute.net/2013/02/06/tk-mrs-jun13/


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2496 posts, RR: 11
Reply 60, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6695 times:

Quoting flyyul (Reply 21):

YYC-IST? Now i've seen it all!

Didn't you know ? They're waiting for the new intl terminal and the new runway to be built in YYC before they start the service  

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6488 times:

According to TK's new presentation December 2012, we can add 3 more destinations to the wish list:

Atlanta
Manila
Oran

http://www.turkishairlines.com/downl...entations/sunum_aralik_tr_2012.pdf


To our Administrators:

Is it possible to change the title of this topic to "Turkish Airlines Destination Wishlist and Confirmations"?

Thanks.

[Edited 2013-02-06 23:15:51]

User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Another one from the wishlist is confirmed: Friedrichshafen

Begin 02MAY13

TK1385 IST1405 – 1605FDH 320 x137
TK1386 FDH1655 – 2050IST 320 x137

Source: airlineroute.net


User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 63, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
Happy to see more confirmed destinations today. 28 left in the wish list.

31.01. Libreville
01.02. Colombo (over Male)
01.04. Houston
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
28.05. Salzburg
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

Looks like Colombo as begun.....

Turkish Airlines begins operations
By The Nation
Sunday, 10 February 2013 00:00
http://www.nation.lk/edition/busines...sh-airlines-begins-operations.html

Turkish Airlines which claims to be the best airline in Europe and flies the most countries in the world, last week added its 219th destination and its 98th country by commencing flights to Colombo. Following the announcement, this year marks the first time that flights will be available directly from Colombo to Istanbul, officials of the airline announced.

Turkish Airlines will operate flights to Colombo 5 days per week on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays in both directions, linking Colombo, also Sri Lanka’s largest city and financial hub, to the worldwide network of Turkish Airlines.Turkish Airlines plans to operate from Colombo on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday, arriving at 1510 LT and departure the same day at 2140 LT; arrival in Istanbul the next day at 0545 LT. The initial flights will operate as Istanbul/Male/Colombo/Male/Istanbul and from Istanbul; the airline offers convenient flights to the US, Europe, Eastern Europe, the Scandinavian countries and the CIS

[Edited 2013-02-09 17:42:52]

User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 64, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Looks like IST-Marseille is now confirmed to be going active in April, along with interest by TK in considering whether or not to sponsor Olympique Marseille, the city's prestigious football club.

Transport: Turkish Airlines travels to Provence
New flight Marseille-Istanbul; sport sponsorship likely
06 February, 14:18
http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/n...ines-travels-Provence_8199398.html

Turkish Airlines will be investing in Provence with a new connection between Istanbul and Marseille and more. According to Econostrum, the Turkish air carrier is considering whether to sponsor Olympique Marseille, the city's prestigious football club.

The new connection will be inaugurated in April with an estimated 50,000 passengers in the first year, the marketing chief of Marseille's airport Julien Boulley told reporters. He also said that two flights will soon be operated daily.

Initially, four flights a week have been scheduled.

Turkish Airlines has said it intends to invest in the local economy to boost the company's profile in Provence. In particular, the director general Erhan Ipek spoke about sport.


User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 65, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5901 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
In addition, there are upped frequencies across the board.

Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Also, the Swedish city of Gothenburg needs to be included in this list as TK mentioned interest in this market concerning an article centered around making Thessaloniki a TK Hub.

Turkish Airlines Makes Thessaloniki Hub
By Nicky Mariam Onti on February 1, 2013
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013...h-airlines-makes-thessaloniki-hub/

Yazan said Chinese and Indian visitors traveled to Thessaloniki via Turkish Airlines and he’s optimistic it will continue. He noted that one of the airline’s next goals is to target the Swedish market via Gothenburg.


User currently offlineturkishsky From Turkey, joined Mar 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5803 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 65):

Gothenburg can not be in the wishlist. It has already been in the destination list for a while and going up to double daily this summer....



Flown 4I 9U AA AB AF AZ BA BD BR CA CU CX EI FR HV JK JP JU KK KL KM LH LX MA ME MS NG OA OK QR OS RJ RO SA SK SQ SR SU
User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 67, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5659 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 64):

yes, I mentioned in post 59  


User currently offlinejfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 61):
According to TK's new presentation December 2012, we can add 3 more destinations to the wish list:
Manila

Any idea on timings for this flight, or too early to say?

On another note, the new TLL route is now bookable on TK's website.


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Quoting jfidler (Reply 68):

It's just on the wishlist, not confirmed  


Malta begin 25 May. That makes 14.

TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 73W 2
TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 319 36

TK1370 MLA1515 – 1835IST 73W 2
TK1370 MLA1515 – 1835IST 319 36


Destination start agenda:

01.04. Houston
03.04. Aqaba
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
02.05. Friedrichshafen
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
25.05. Malta
28.05. Salzburg
04.06. Marseille
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

On the wishlist are now 27 destinations.

Africa (10)

Luxor
Aswan
Asmara
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Njamena
Juba
Bamako
Oran

Europe (3)

Rotterdam
Kharkiv
Krakow


Asia (6)

Gassim
Katmandu
Manila
Masar-i-Sharif
Abha
Lankaran

South America (2)

Caracas
Bogota


North America (5)

Mexico
Boston
San Francisco
Montreal
Atlanta

Caribbean (1)

Havanna

[Edited 2013-02-11 02:42:11]

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 70, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
North America

Vancouver
Calgary
San Juan (when Havana will be a success, why not?)
Miami
Seattle
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia
Dallas
Boston would/should be ahead of half these cities.


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 70):

Boston is on the wishlist. That list you have quoted is just a potential view of me.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 72, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4949 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 70):
Boston would/should be ahead of half these cities.

"LAXintl" in the past, posted a list of US-Turkey daily demand and Boston was up there, IIRC top five. Also it is easier to reach from IST, daily with a single frame.


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 72):

Was that one here:

Quoting LAXintl:
This month for statistics I will post the Top-50 Turkey-US O&D markets.
Unless noted all counts are for Istanbul.

1) New York - 623
2) Los Angeles - 176
3) Washington - 160
4) Chicago - 121
5) Boston - 80
6) San Francisco - 70
7) Miami - 68
8) NYC-ESB - 45
9) Houston - 37
10) Atlanta - 36
11) Seattle - 31
12) Washington-ESB - 25
13) Orlando - 23
14 Dallas - 23
15) Detroit - 19
16) Denver - 18
17) Philledelphia - 16
18) San Diego - 16
19) Las Vegas - 15
20) Phoenix - 12
21) Chicago-ESB - 12
22) Tampa - 9
23) Portland - 9
24) Charlotte - 9
25) Boston-ESB - 9
26) Raleigh - 8
27) Cleveland - 8
28) Cincinnati - 7
29) St Louis - 7
30) Pittsburgh - 7
31) Salt Lake - 6
32) Columbus -6
33) Austin - 6
34) Washington-ADA - 6
35) Minneapolis - 6
36) Kansas City - 5
37) San Antonio - 5
38) Indianapolis - 5
39) Jacksonville - 4
40) Nashville - 4
41) Memphis - 4
42) Norfolk - 4
43) Seattle-ESB - 4
44) Dallas-ESB -4
45) Buffalo - 3
46) Rochester - 3
47) Oklahoma City - 3
48) Nashville-Diyarbakir - 3
49) Tulsa - 2
50) Tucson - 2

*data is for demand traveling in both directions. For example, NYC total figure encompass local demand from New York to Istanbul as well as demand from Istanbul to New York. To determine PDEW (passenger daily each way) divide the total by 2.


Its also interesting to note the amazing growth of local US-Turkey traffic has seen in the last 10-years. For example back in 2001 not even 100,000 people flew between NYC and Turkey, and now the count is over 250,000 !
Add in huge and growing transit traffic, the numbers are even more impressive.

Turkey has truly become both a global transportation hub and a significant local home market.



User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 74, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 73):

Exactly, thanks. It is for O&D but great to have these numbers.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 75, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4879 times:

There should be some incidental info on that list   I can't imagine Nashville-Diyarbakır to be consistently providing pax flow   And is the Istanbul-Tucson demand due to Elif Safak?  

User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 75):
And is the Istanbul-Tucson demand due to Elif Safak?

:D that is a good one!  


User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4004 posts, RR: 5
Reply 77, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

What I find interesting is that they serve a lot of the new shorthaul destinations with a mix of A320s and 737-800s despite a lower than daily frequency. Is there a rationale behind that?

User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 78, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 75):
I can't imagine Nashville-Diyarbakır to be consistently providing pax flow    

Actually - south Nashville area has recently absorbed a lot of Kurdish immigrants (both Turkish and Iraqi, AFAIK). In fact, one of the best Turkish restaurants I have been to in the US was from Nashville ... just south of the Vanderbilt area. Quite expensive though  


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 79, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 77):

They usually start 3-4-5 weekly and grow to daily within a year according to demand. That is what has happened with VLC or EDI...

Quoting ASA (Reply 78):

Amazing to hear... Nashville of all places!


User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4598 times:
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Quoting jfidler (Reply 8):
I went to TK's US website and tried to book a flight to TLL in June, and it didn't even recognize TLL as a destination.

I went on TKs website to try and book a round trip EDI-JNB and it didn't even recognise the UK as a county. Oh well, EK just got the booking again from GLA.

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineTK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 80):
I went on TKs website to try and book a round trip EDI-JNB and it didn't even recognise the UK as a county.

What do you exactly mean? I can select UK als country on both the intro screen als on other pages



"The future is in the skies. For any nation that cannot defend its skies will never be confident of its future." Atatürk
User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4004 posts, RR: 5
Reply 82, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 79):
They usually start 3-4-5 weekly and grow to daily within a year according to demand. That is what has happened with VLC or EDI...

I know. What surprises me from a scheduling point of view is that they use a mix of A320s and 738s to a new destination despite operating only 3-4 flights a week. I always thought that a mixed fleet of A32X and 737NGs means that each type has its advantages on certain routes. So for some new destinations the 737 would be better suited, for other the A320. However, often TK's schedules to new destinations look like these:

TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 73W 2
TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 319 36

TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 83, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Oh ok, sorry I misunderstood you. That is curious, but in fact TK announcing that the flight will be a daily 319 doesn't mean much anyway - you get any type from 319 up to 343   So this again might not be set in stone in actual operation.

User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 84, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 83):
you get any type from 319 up to 343

this is totally true and brings me to another question. TK operates a very small subfleet of 737-700. we used to talked about this in a similar way when they only operated four 319 some years ago, but this number (of the 319) has increased now to 12; however, the 737 remain at 4.
what is the idea behind? any economical or operational reason for keeping this subfleet of only four frames?


User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4314 times:

Quoting ASA (Reply 78):
Actually - south Nashville area has recently absorbed a lot of Kurdish immigrants (both Turkish and Iraqi, AFAIK). In fact, one of the best Turkish restaurants I have been to in the US was from Nashville ... just south of the Vanderbilt area. Quite expensive though

Indeed. There is even a Kurdish Gang (KP) in Nashville! When I visit my family down there, it always amusing to watch these young Kurdish kids try to be gangbangers...


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4504 posts, RR: 72
Reply 86, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4291 times:

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 82):
I know. What surprises me from a scheduling point of view is that they use a mix of A320s and 738s to a new destination despite operating only 3-4 flights a week. I always thought that a mixed fleet of A32X and 737NGs means that each type has its advantages on certain routes. So for some new destinations the 737 would be better suited, for other the A320. However, often TK's schedules to new destinations look like these

The published equipment will ultimately bare little resemblace with the actual equipment deployed. It is merely indicative of TK's intentions, but actually TK will adjust euipment to demand on a day to day basis for these routes, which are almost all served with an immediate turn around for the crews involved anyway. As such, TK has a fleet of B73W/738/739ER, A319/320/321 to play with and when additional capacity is called for a widebody A332/333/343 or even B77W will be dispatched to any Eurpean, North African or Middle Eastern destination.


User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4151 times:
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Quoting TK1244 (Reply 81):
What do you exactly mean? I can select UK als country on both the intro screen als on other pages

Nope. No UK / Great Britain listed here? I then tried to google it and when doing flight searches just kept on saying didn't recognise the destination.



Not great first impression. Although a bit further, I'd take the EK flatbed / Suite over a TK A319 three abreast 'business recliner' to IST, maybe TK will raise their game and I'll try them next time.

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineemp From Austria, joined Jul 2009, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

I think there's a problem with your browser/system, the UK is listed under Ukraine and if you look closely on your screenshot there's even a little bit of the bullet visible. (tried it on a mac w/ safari, firefox, chrome)

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 89, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3916 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 87):
I'd take the EK flatbed / Suite over a TK A319 three abreast 'business recliner' to IST, maybe TK will raise their game and I'll try them next time.

I dont think that TK can beat the EK's flatbed, not now, not in the future to EDI or GLA.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25432 posts, RR: 49
Reply 90, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 87):
Nope. No UK / Great Britain listed here? I then tried to google it and when doing flight searches just kept on saying didn't recognise the destination.

There is something with your browser/computer.

United Kingdom is definitely on the page, with additional language drop down option of English as well.

See it both in Chrome and IE.

Anyhow - you can also go straight to their UK website as well.
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-uk/

=



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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3840 times:
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Quoting emp (Reply 88):
I think there's a problem with your browser/system,
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
There is something with your browser/computer.

Hmm, I'm running Mac OSX 10.7 and this is in Safari. Tried it on Firefox and Chrome too, same issue. They should really cross browser test.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 89):
I dont think that TK can beat the EK's flatbed, not now, not in the future to EDI or GLA.

I've booked EK Suite from GLA now anyway.
Sandyb123



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 92, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Adding two more to the list as per TK;
Nantes NTE and Ahwaz AWZ

On the wishlist are now 27+2 destinations.

Africa (10)

Luxor
Aswan
Asmara
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Ndjamena
Juba
Bamako
Oran

Europe (4)

Rotterdam
Kharkiv
Krakow
Nantes


Asia (7)

Gassim
Katmandu
Manila
Masar-i-Sharif
Abha
Lankaran
Ahwaz, IRAN

South America (2)

Caracas
Bogota


North America (5)

Mexico
Boston
San Francisco
Montreal
Atlanta

Caribbean (1)

Havana


User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 93, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

with all those new destinations to often quite rural parts of the world it sometimes sounds/looks like TK is playing a simulation game such as airlinesim and testing around. crazy!

User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 92):
Europe (4)

Rotterdam

I think you can delete Rotterdam from this list for the time being. It seems that TK only applied for RTM slots due to the fact that TK might not be able to obtain enough slots in Amsterdam. TK has now all the desired slots in AMS for the summer season 2013 and the RTM slots will not be taken up. Unfortunatelly i must say. RTM would have been a great addition to the network of TK.


User currently offlineTK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 94):

Not again... Will be very disappointed with TK if it is true  



"The future is in the skies. For any nation that cannot defend its skies will never be confident of its future." Atatürk
User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

According to a 2013 presentation of Turkish Cargo, you can find following destination starts (without confirmed destinations):

30.04.13 Rotterdam
08.05.13 Lankaran
15.05.13 Kano
15.05.13 Ndjamena
01.06.13 Masar-i-Sharif
05.06.13 Gassim
13.06.13 Abha
18.06.13 Havana
18.06.13 Mexico City
20.06.13 Kathmandu
11.11.13 Luxor
11.11.13 Aswan
19.11.13 Juba
27.11.13 Asmara

Source (page 10): http://www.turkishcargo.com.tr/kargo...cargo_sunum_2013_TR_2013_02_04.pdf


User currently offlinethijs1984 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 95):

Not again... Will be very disappointed with TK if it is true

Dajavu! This has happenend before. I Think Rotterdam is not on the wish list at all. Rotterdam is just the alternative if not enough slots are obtained in Amsterdam.
Think the guys in Rotterdam are not very happy to be the second choice again. But i think TK is the greatest loser of all as they clearly underestimate the potential of RTM.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 96):
30.04.13 Rotterdam

the route should have been officially announced by now. I dont expect TK to come to Rotterdam this summer. Or even not at all. It's a pitty. But i think Rotterdam can use its limited number of slots better for a more dedicated airline.


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