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PEOPLExpress In Talk To Purchase Another Carrier  
User currently offlineatwinstructor From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 13 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9796 times:

Per their Facebook page-

http://www.facebook.com/flypex

Link to the article on Inside Business-

http://insidebiz.com/news/peoplexpre...other-carrier?__c9auth=1&__c9dis=1

Looks like we may find out as early as Feb. 1 but let the speculation begin!

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User currently onlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 899 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9786 times:

I speculate that it will be United!!!


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User currently offlinekingcavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1302 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9750 times:

My money is on Ryan International Airlines. They just ceased operations on January 11.


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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9722 times:

They want to operate 734s correct? Well my guess would be Xtra then.


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User currently offlinecbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1550 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
I speculate that it will be United!!!
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 3):
They want to operate 734s correct? Well my guess would be Xtra then.

Nah, if it's 734s, then it must be Alaska!  



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
I speculate that it will be United!!!

Uuuuuummmmmm..........I don't think so. I don't think it will be Delta either.
American?   


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4098 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9448 times:

With the large sum of $500,000 I am guessing that it might be, well AA and they would assume its entire debt. Other wise I would guess that it might not be any major carrier. I just had a thought, they might be purchasing AA's new livery which I am sure would be over paying in some minds.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10324 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

Could it be Amtrack???


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User currently onlineUA735WL From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9307 times:

What about Sky King? Aren't they bankrupt? (And don't they have 732s?    )


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User currently offlineConcordski From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9236 times:

I'm thinking Vision Airlines.

User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9210 times:

I'm thinking Vision Airlines, as they have become a bare-bones operation and currently operate the 734.

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 2):
My money is on Ryan International Airlines. They just ceased operations on January 11.

That's a possibility, but they haven't had the 737 in their fleet in a number of years and other than some seasonal leases of 734s and 738s, they never operated anything other than the 732. It makes more sense to acquire an airline that already operates the a/c type you wish to use since they already have all of the operational elements in place for the type.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24710 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8919 times:

Two weeks ago we had a thread on the same news.

PeoplExpress Update (by PITrules Jan 9 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Does not seem to be any change since.



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User currently onlineoflanigan From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8901 times:

Who owns the USA3000 certificate and why wouldn't just purchasing that be the best option?

User currently offlinedabpit From United States of America, joined May 2012, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8865 times:

It is either Xtra or Vision

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
I speculate that it will be United!!!
Quoting bohica (Reply 5):
American?

$500,000 wont help getting either one plus this would not fit into PEOPLExpress' brand.


User currently offlinedabpit From United States of America, joined May 2012, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8854 times:

Quoting oflanigan (Reply 12):
Who owns the USA3000 certificate and why wouldn't just purchasing that be the best option?

If I remember correctly they flew A320s.


User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 8680 times:

The 734 might have been their original plan, but if they have to buy another airline to get a certificate, they may not limit themselves only to a 734-operating airline.


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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8240 times:

Quoting dabpit (Reply 13):
Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 1):
I speculate that it will be United!!!
Quoting bohica (Reply 5):
American?

$500,000 wont help getting either one plus this would not fit into PEOPLExpress' brand.

I hope you didn't think we were serious.  


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8194 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 3):

I am with ya. Xtra makes the most sense.



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User currently offlinedabpit From United States of America, joined May 2012, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

Quoting bohica (Reply 16):

I hope you didn't think we were serious.



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User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6860 times:

Maybe they will buy 9E from DL. That is about all it is worth. haha.

Seirously, could they be buying small charter company? Say Great Lakes or some such?

Or how about everyone's favorite deduct airline: All South or Skybus?

Dave



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User currently onlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 10):
That's a possibility, but they haven't had the 737 in their fleet in a number of years and other than some seasonal leases of 734s and 738s, they never operated anything other than the 732. It makes more sense to acquire an airline that already operates the a/c type you wish to use since they already have all of the operational elements in place for the type.

Ryan should have all the historical data to add the fleet type since they had at one point.

Quoting oflanigan (Reply 12):
Who owns the USA3000 certificate and why wouldn't just purchasing that be the best option?

The USA3000 certificate has been surrendered and no longer valid.

Quoting davescj (Reply 19):
Seirously, could they be buying small charter company? Say Great Lakes or some such?

Or how about everyone's favorite deduct airline: All South or Skybus?

Purchasing Great Lakes would require a massive re-write of their ops spec and creation of manuals to operate the 734. Adding a new fleet type to a 121 certificate is not a quick and easy task. Its normally a 6-9 month undertaking.

As a greater explanation, the certificates of defunct carriers generally do not last long as they become dormant if not used. In order to keep it, generally the positions defined in 14 CFR 119.65 must be filled and at least one aircraft remain on their ops spec. If there is an intent to either re-start operations or an effort to sell the certificate, some of the necessary positions have been waived at the discretion of the FSDO that oversees that certificate.

As with USA3000, the Skybus certificate is long gone. There is a possibility the estate of Ryan International may be trying to sell its certificate since it was very recently still in use.



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User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

How about if PeoplExpress buys Frontier? Then we can experience deja vu. For those who forgot or never knew, the original PE bought FL back in the 1980s.

User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2658 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

Quoting UA735WL (Reply 8):
What about Sky King? Aren't they bankrupt? (And don't they have 732s? )

All the 732's are gone, however, a Skyking mechanic did say they had new investors coming in (take it with a grain of salt)...right now, SkyKing only has 737-400's



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User currently offlineridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

All indications point to Xtra Airways.

Xtra had a contract to provide charter services for Cal Jet air to Mazatlan from various US Cities that was supposed to run into April sometime. However that has been suspended and will only operate until the first week of Feb.


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