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Delta Opens SkyDeck In ATL And JFK  
User currently onlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 810 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14525 times:

Pretty cool if you ask me!

Delta
We're excited to announce The Sky Deck, coming this summer to the Delta Sky Club® at Atlanta's Concourse F and JFK's Terminal 4. Created by renowned designer Thom Filicia, these new outdoor lounges will provide a unique refuge for busy travelers.
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1852

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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14523 times:

I hope they won't turn into smoking lounges like the outdoor areas of other airports.


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14494 times:

Very cool. The terrace at JFK T4 should offer some of the best views since they closed the rooftop parking lot at the soon-to-be-demolished T3.


Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4977 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14328 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
I hope they won't turn into smoking lounges like the outdoor areas of other airports.

The SkyDecks will be all non-smoking.


User currently offlineLDVAviation From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 1118 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14299 times:

The concept is impractical. A "sky deck" in LA would make sense, the ones in Atlanta and JFK not so much.

User currently onlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14197 times:

Well I'm sure many people will find it practical and a pleasure..

User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14179 times:

Why is it impractical? Just because there's more chance for inclement weather at ATL & JFK than LAX? I say BRAVO..I think the concept is very cool, and I think many others will also. It's another amenity, if you will, to further improve the experience for Sky Club visitors at those two international facilities. I, for one, would LOVE to be hanging out at either location, weather permitting, as a sort of escape from the confines of indoor space, no matter how nice an environment the Sky Club itself may be. To be outside on a beautiful, or even so-so, day post-security is not something offered at many airports. And, as indicated, it seems that most of those terminals which do have an outdoor area allow smoking, or they really are mostly utilized as smoking areas. This is vastly different, and somewhat out-of-the-box thinking on Delta's part. Very cool..

AAflyguy


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4660 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14174 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 3):
The SkyDecks will be all non-smoking.

It doesn't say that in the press release.

Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway? I can see smokers being like, I am outside - and so?



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User currently offlinejetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3365 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 14038 times:

Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 4):

The concept is impractical. A "sky deck" in LA would make sense, the ones in Atlanta and JFK not so much.

Why on earth would you think so? And besides, I don't think the point is "practicality".


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 14000 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):

Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway?

Same way it's enforced in NYC parks. Or inside the terminal, for that matter.



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21589 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13954 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway? I can see smokers being like, I am outside - and so?

Or within 100 feet of any building entrance in some cities, or within 100 feet of any restaurant or eatery in my town. The few people who ignore the law get scolded by those who don't want the stink. It's very rare that an authority needs to be called, but if there is need, the Sky personnel would ask them to put it out or leave the lounge. It's not a public place...



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User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6936 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13935 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):

Why not? I think that would be pretty cool.



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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13845 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
It doesn't say that in the press release.

Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway? I can see smokers being like, I am outside - and so?

I'm sure more than a few Diamonds have Mayor Bloomberg on their contact list. And as stated above, it's not a public space, it's a private club. OTOH, imagine someone flicking their butts onto the ramp.



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11983 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13777 times:

Well, obviously weather has to be considered. (A SkyDeck probably wouldn't be exceedingly popular in Las Vegas in August, nor Minneapolis in February, for example.) But in general, I agree - this is a really, really cool idea.

User currently onlinemax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13644 times:

This brings up a question...what other US airports have viewing decks anymore (public or private)?


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13617 times:

I wonder if any more SkyDecks are planned in the US?

In SAN, as part of the new terminal expansion (T2W, aka the GreenBuild) there is some sort of rooftop structure that appears to be a room of some kind but I've heard nothing about it and from the photos I've seen, it's really difficult to see what it might be. (And it could certainly just be a/c or other type of mechanical space.) I also know that DL has a Crown Room/lounge in the area but I'm not sure if it's being relocated or not. (UA is relocating their lounge to the area as well.)

I've always hoped that there might be some sort of observation deck or something like that as part of the new West Concourse/Green Build. Given our weather and the location of the airport, it would sure be a terrific location for an outdoor facility of some kind!

bb


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2463 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13628 times:

I think this is a brilliant idea... looking forward to trying.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 11):


Why not? I think that would be pretty cool.

+1. Something along the lines of the cigar lounge in the LH FCL/FCT!  


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4977 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13615 times:
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Artist rendering of the JFK SkyDeck (taken from delta.com at http://delta.thedigitalcenter.com/category/220-sky-clubs)



User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10671 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 13531 times:

Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 4):
A "sky deck" in LA would make sense,

Or a "smog deck", perhaps??  



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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13484 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 16):
DL has a Crown Room

They're now called 'Sky Clubs'.



Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlinenicksair From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 484 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13458 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 16):
In SAN, as part of the new terminal expansion (T2W, aka the GreenBuild) there is some sort of rooftop structure that appears to be a room of some kind but I've heard nothing about it and from the photos I've seen, it's really difficult to see what it might be. (And it could certainly just be a/c or other type of mechanical space.) I also know that DL has a Crown Room/lounge in the area but I'm not sure if it's being relocated or not. (UA is relocating their lounge to the area as well.)

BB,

If you are speaking about the tower coming up from the end of the rotunda at Gates 39/40/41, etc. That is actually going to be a ramp tower for ramp operations in the 2 alleyways there at T2. Since the current position of the Control Tower has limited visibility on the new expanded part of T2.

'2NW.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13465 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
I hope they won't turn into smoking lounges like the outdoor areas of other airports.

No need, as ATL still offers designated smoking lounges within the terminals-
http://www.atlanta-airport.com/Passe...ustomerService/smokingLounges.aspx



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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3628 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13328 times:

New Yorkers love al fresco in all weather. Take a walk up the street in the city and every restaurant has an outdoor eating space.

Product differentiation continues in NY. Nice job DL


User currently offlineLDVAviation From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 1118 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13053 times:

Quoting jetlanta (Reply 8):
Why on earth would you think so? And besides, I don't think the point is "practicality".

At airports, places like this get dingy very fast. All the particles from the plane exhaust to whatever else settle on the chairs and furniture. Add a little rain and things get sticky quite fast.

And, we are not talking about a high end hotel here with the staff to wipe off the chairs and tables on a daily basis.

And, while the point for Delta may not be "practicality," how practical do you think the space will be to a premium traveller in business attire once the dust settles?


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13112 times:

Quoting nicksair (Reply 21):
If you are speaking about the tower coming up from the end of the rotunda at Gates 39/40/41, etc.

No, nick', I'm not talking about the RCF (and I forgot to mention that in my post; sorry.)

This is a large, flat-roofed, rectangular structure maybe 100' behind (south of) the ramp tower and above gate 37. It looks awfully big to be a maintenance or a/c room -- it's maybe 80' long. It looks like a separate building that was plunked down on the roof of the T2W concourse. (Sorry but I don't have permission to use any of the pix I've seen so I'm not going to take a chance.)

I can't tell if it even has windows but it definitely has a solid white roof. I'm pretty sure it isn't what I'd like to be, but at this point, I'm just not sure. (And always hopeful!)

bb


25 rwy04lga : How do you know that won't be the case? It's an outdoor lounge catering to high value, big spending customers. Why wouldn't Delta keep the place clea
26 jetlanta : Delta has staff cleaning the inside of the clubs constantly. I think we can be sure they they have included outdoor custodial services as part of the
27 cokepopper : It's not like it's sitting at the ground level at the end of the runway! Look at the pictures. I'm sure this will be very popular with our most freque
28 PanAm788 : Won't it smell like jet fuel? The air outside airports even at curbside pickup typically isn't the freshest.
29 Post contains images KaiGywer : Even better
30 ocracoke : Something tells me that if this were AA doing this at DFW, MIA, and LAX, it would be a wonderful idea, and prove to the world what an innovative and
31 Josh32121 : Negative Nancies aside, I think this is a fantastic idea. For people who don't want to smell jet exhaust or think it's too hot or cold outside, the in
32 cargolex : Sadly hardly any, and the attitude towards those watching or photographing aircraft can be hostile in the extreme. I'm happy to hear Delta is creatin
33 nickofatlanta : There's a outdoor pool in the terminal at SIN complete with chairs etc that seemed pretty clean etc when I was there. Don't think DL would go to the t
34 Post contains links Coronado : Maybe DL could figure out how to fancy up the observation room at MSP: http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/2/...Find+MSP's+Secret+Observation+Deck I hav
35 OA412 : Interesting move on DL's part. It sounds like a really cool idea, I just wonder how it'll work on cold weather days. Although I do know that many of u
36 klkla : I'm sure it will have outdoor furniture that can be hosed down. If the weather forecast is for a good day you have someone from maintenance hose it d
37 rwy04lga : LOLOL I love the smell of unburned hydrocarbons in the morning, smells like....the PanAm rooftop!
38 nicksair : BB, Don't be sorry at all! And i'll have to investigate that further. Could possibly be the a part of the new United Club! '2NW.
39 Post contains images mayor : And yet, that same person suggested that maybe LAX would be more "practical". Go figure.
40 Post contains images cschleic : Someone doesn't like jet smell??????
41 mayor : Depends on how strong it is and how long you have to put up with it. In SLC, right after the DL/WA merger, I was working in load planning and the ram
42 Post contains images Josh32121 : Hehehe....surely no one on these forums! I'd pay extra for it.
43 Post contains links and images SCQ83 : I think it is unavoidable that airports will get more and more open spaces. Nowadays every single new terminal has turned into your average A/Ced mall
44 cloudboy : I don't care if they are just cement pads with a few metal benches. Heck I would even stand! I am glad to see them doing this. Atlanta makes Air Trave
45 Post contains images PHX787 : Wait, can you actually see the airfield? And do you need to be a Sky Club member to get in? This may be the incentive needed for me to join
46 mjgbtv : BTV has a viewing area on the roof of the latest parking garage expansion.
47 ikramerica : Not at LAX. Impossible. Nor SNA, SBA, SAN, LGB. But BUR and ONT, sure. Though not at much at BUR as in the past. I love it an HNL, but it is dependen
48 LDVAviation : If I were being cynical, I would have questioned the association with Architectural Digest and the use of Thom Filicia with his Room and Board aesthe
49 cosyr : Because it's not just about inclement weather in ATL, it is about months of heat and humidity, and cold at JFK.
50 max999 : I guess with that logic, Central Park in New York is pretty useless with all its heat and humidity, and cold. Haha
51 Post contains images Deltal1011man : This Ah so thats normally what Delta trys to do, piss off HVCs. and how do you know Delta wont be keeping to place completely clean? and piss off HVC
52 SurfandSnow : What a great concept. This is the type of thing that may actually lead me to buy the day pass to use the club!
53 mayor : Most business travellers that I see are usually dressed pretty casually, at least on the way home.
54 PanAm1971 : I hope it has great views. However I have a feeling Homeland Security might have some objections. Also, I really hate the fact the orginal Worldport T
55 jcwr56 : You do have the old public observation deck located (which hasn't been used in over 25 years) in Terminal 2 at ORD. The problem is, there's no elevat
56 aircanada014 : I think it has to do with the weather, especially during winter season. LAX won't see snow just rain and sunshine with nice warm temperature. I don't
57 RKSofACinUSA : I see the glass as 'half full' rather than 'half empty'. The inside facilities at many Sky Clubs are not always perfectly kept either but I'd still m
58 Post contains images cokepopper : Maybe it will have a great view of the demolition of Term 3
59 PSU.DTW.SCE : Amazing how people will find the negative in everything. This is another option for Skyclub members and guests, if you don't like it, don't use it. I
60 cloudboy : You do realize that the weather in NY is not one huge blizzard that starts in mid December and lasts through mid April, right? Yeah there are days wh
61 NYCAAer : Anyone notice the triangular red canopies over the artist renditions of the SkyDeck? A clever but subtle way of having Delta's widget in the design, I
62 Post contains images mayor : Exactly......I don't believe DL is going to herd a bunch of people outside, no matter what the weather is, no matter if they want to go or not. It's
63 cschleic : ANY kind of outdoor observation deck is a big plus these days. And the JFK T-4 one might have good views of other international gates/planes. Anyone k
64 jetlanta : It's not a question of JFK or LAX! Sure a SkyDeck at LAX would be great too, but thats not the issue. Just because you can't spend EVERY day on the S
65 rwy04lga : The SkyClub in terminal C at LGA has great views of ramp operations.
66 gaystudpilot : Like Sandy Hook... now that's an idea for the new Sky Beach!
67 Post contains images CalebWilliams : With us locals on a balmy February day, we'd love being outside.
68 airportugal310 : So basically, what I see here, is we aren't allowed to disagree with some idea an airline comes up with?
69 SCQ83 : I even saw people in terraces in Boston on Sunday!... and it was about 35 Fahrenheit... yet after more than week permanently below 10-0 F. Also DL's
70 questions : At JFK, this could help DL (slightly) close the gap with Virgin's Clubhouse... although it would be nice to utilize the Clubhouse as the business clas
71 jetlanta : What could any person who cares enough about airliners to be posting on Airliners.net possibly disagree with??? If you don't want to go out on it, do
72 Post contains links cokepopper : Great article in the NY Post today.. ALL "decked" out at JFK Airline's outdoor Jet-view space http://www.nypost.com/Page/Uuid/797fdc62-6aab-11e2-952d-
73 tommy767 : Honestly, I realize DL has a major hard on for NYC but I do hope they plan on rain-proofing the deck furniture. Whether you agree or not, NYC gets a
74 mayor : Nobody is saying that. But, this IS a discussion forum, so if you state something, be prepared to get opposing views.
75 jfklganyc : What a great story in the Post. Good publicity
76 max999 : Those who keep harping on about the 'bad' weather in New York need to get a grip. None of what Delta is building is anything new except that it's at
77 tommy767 : New York has terrible weather. Hopefully DL can keep up with it on the roof.
78 delimit : Are we still posting on Anet? The site where people regularly bemoan the loss of observation decks? And.people are critical? As for NYC weather, it's
79 T5towbar : I think this is a cool idea. It's outside the box thinking, but before 9/11 people could see the planes and all of the activity on the ramp. A lot of
80 toobz : Nobody is forcing anyone to go out in crappy weather. The sky club is still indoors. This is an option for many that would like a little fresh air...w
81 gaystudpilot : Bring on the foam parties!!
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