toobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 675 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12749 times:
Pretty cool if you ask me!
Delta
We're excited to announce The Sky Deck, coming this summer to the Delta Sky Club® at Atlanta's Concourse F and JFK's Terminal 4. Created by renowned designer Thom Filicia, these new outdoor lounges will provide a unique refuge for busy travelers. http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1852
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4595 posts, RR: 25 Reply 3, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12552 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 1): I hope they won't turn into smoking lounges like the outdoor areas of other airports.
LDVAviation From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 780 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12523 times:
The concept is impractical. A "sky deck" in LA would make sense, the ones in Atlanta and JFK not so much.
AAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 350 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12403 times:
Why is it impractical? Just because there's more chance for inclement weather at ATL & JFK than LAX? I say BRAVO..I think the concept is very cool, and I think many others will also. It's another amenity, if you will, to further improve the experience for Sky Club visitors at those two international facilities. I, for one, would LOVE to be hanging out at either location, weather permitting, as a sort of escape from the confines of indoor space, no matter how nice an environment the Sky Club itself may be. To be outside on a beautiful, or even so-so, day post-security is not something offered at many airports. And, as indicated, it seems that most of those terminals which do have an outdoor area allow smoking, or they really are mostly utilized as smoking areas. This is vastly different, and somewhat out-of-the-box thinking on Delta's part. Very cool..
jetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2916 posts, RR: 28 Reply 8, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12262 times:
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 4):
The concept is impractical. A "sky deck" in LA would make sense, the ones in Atlanta and JFK not so much.
Why on earth would you think so? And besides, I don't think the point is "practicality".
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21045 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12178 times:
Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7): Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway? I can see smokers being like, I am outside - and so?
Or within 100 feet of any building entrance in some cities, or within 100 feet of any restaurant or eatery in my town. The few people who ignore the law get scolded by those who don't want the stink. It's very rare that an authority needs to be called, but if there is need, the Sky personnel would ask them to put it out or leave the lounge. It's not a public place...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6195 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12159 times:
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2258 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12069 times:
Meanwhile, how would that be enforced anyway? I can see smokers being like, I am outside - and so?
I'm sure more than a few Diamonds have Mayor Bloomberg on their contact list. And as stated above, it's not a public space, it's a private club. OTOH, imagine someone flicking their butts onto the ramp.
The early bird gets the worm, BUT...the second mouse gets the cheese!
commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10226 posts, RR: 62 Reply 13, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12001 times:
Well, obviously weather has to be considered. (A SkyDeck probably wouldn't be exceedingly popular in Las Vegas in August, nor Minneapolis in February, for example.) But in general, I agree - this is a really, really cool idea.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 15, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11841 times:
I wonder if any more SkyDecks are planned in the US?
In SAN, as part of the new terminal expansion (T2W, aka the GreenBuild) there is some sort of rooftop structure that appears to be a room of some kind but I've heard nothing about it and from the photos I've seen, it's really difficult to see what it might be. (And it could certainly just be a/c or other type of mechanical space.) I also know that DL has a Crown Room/lounge in the area but I'm not sure if it's being relocated or not. (UA is relocating their lounge to the area as well.)
I've always hoped that there might be some sort of observation deck or something like that as part of the new West Concourse/Green Build. Given our weather and the location of the airport, it would sure be a terrific location for an outdoor facility of some kind!
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4595 posts, RR: 25 Reply 17, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11839 times:
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2258 posts, RR: 7 Reply 19, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11708 times:
nicksair From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 484 posts, RR: 50 Reply 20, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11682 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 16): In SAN, as part of the new terminal expansion (T2W, aka the GreenBuild) there is some sort of rooftop structure that appears to be a room of some kind but I've heard nothing about it and from the photos I've seen, it's really difficult to see what it might be. (And it could certainly just be a/c or other type of mechanical space.) I also know that DL has a Crown Room/lounge in the area but I'm not sure if it's being relocated or not. (UA is relocating their lounge to the area as well.)
BB,
If you are speaking about the tower coming up from the end of the rotunda at Gates 39/40/41, etc. That is actually going to be a ramp tower for ramp operations in the 2 alleyways there at T2. Since the current position of the Control Tower has limited visibility on the new expanded part of T2.
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2706 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11552 times:
New Yorkers love al fresco in all weather. Take a walk up the street in the city and every restaurant has an outdoor eating space.
Product differentiation continues in NY. Nice job DL
LDVAviation From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 780 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11277 times:
Quoting jetlanta (Reply 8): Why on earth would you think so? And besides, I don't think the point is "practicality".
At airports, places like this get dingy very fast. All the particles from the plane exhaust to whatever else settle on the chairs and furniture. Add a little rain and things get sticky quite fast.
And, we are not talking about a high end hotel here with the staff to wipe off the chairs and tables on a daily basis.
And, while the point for Delta may not be "practicality," how practical do you think the space will be to a premium traveller in business attire once the dust settles?
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 24, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11336 times:
Quoting nicksair (Reply 21): If you are speaking about the tower coming up from the end of the rotunda at Gates 39/40/41, etc.
No, nick', I'm not talking about the RCF (and I forgot to mention that in my post; sorry.)
This is a large, flat-roofed, rectangular structure maybe 100' behind (south of) the ramp tower and above gate 37. It looks awfully big to be a maintenance or a/c room -- it's maybe 80' long. It looks like a separate building that was plunked down on the roof of the T2W concourse. (Sorry but I don't have permission to use any of the pix I've seen so I'm not going to take a chance.)
I can't tell if it even has windows but it definitely has a solid white roof. I'm pretty sure it isn't what I'd like to be, but at this point, I'm just not sure. (And always hopeful!)
bb
25 rwy04lga: How do you know that won't be the case? It's an outdoor lounge catering to high value, big spending customers. Why wouldn't Delta keep the place clea
26 jetlanta: Delta has staff cleaning the inside of the clubs constantly. I think we can be sure they they have included outdoor custodial services as part of the
27 cokepopper: It's not like it's sitting at the ground level at the end of the runway! Look at the pictures. I'm sure this will be very popular with our most freque
28 PanAm788: Won't it smell like jet fuel? The air outside airports even at curbside pickup typically isn't the freshest.
30 ocracoke: Something tells me that if this were AA doing this at DFW, MIA, and LAX, it would be a wonderful idea, and prove to the world what an innovative and
31 Josh32121: Negative Nancies aside, I think this is a fantastic idea. For people who don't want to smell jet exhaust or think it's too hot or cold outside, the in
32 cargolex: Sadly hardly any, and the attitude towards those watching or photographing aircraft can be hostile in the extreme. I'm happy to hear Delta is creatin
33 nickofatlanta: There's a outdoor pool in the terminal at SIN complete with chairs etc that seemed pretty clean etc when I was there. Don't think DL would go to the t
34 Coronado: Maybe DL could figure out how to fancy up the observation room at MSP: http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/2/...Find+MSP's+Secret+Observation+Deck I hav
35 OA412: Interesting move on DL's part. It sounds like a really cool idea, I just wonder how it'll work on cold weather days. Although I do know that many of u
36 klkla: I'm sure it will have outdoor furniture that can be hosed down. If the weather forecast is for a good day you have someone from maintenance hose it d
37 rwy04lga: LOLOL I love the smell of unburned hydrocarbons in the morning, smells like....the PanAm rooftop!
38 nicksair: BB, Don't be sorry at all! And i'll have to investigate that further. Could possibly be the a part of the new United Club! '2NW.
39 mayor: And yet, that same person suggested that maybe LAX would be more "practical". Go figure.
41 mayor: Depends on how strong it is and how long you have to put up with it. In SLC, right after the DL/WA merger, I was working in load planning and the ram
42 Josh32121: Hehehe....surely no one on these forums! I'd pay extra for it.
43 SCQ83: I think it is unavoidable that airports will get more and more open spaces. Nowadays every single new terminal has turned into your average A/Ced mall
44 cloudboy: I don't care if they are just cement pads with a few metal benches. Heck I would even stand! I am glad to see them doing this. Atlanta makes Air Trave
45 PHX787: Wait, can you actually see the airfield? And do you need to be a Sky Club member to get in? This may be the incentive needed for me to join
46 mjgbtv: BTV has a viewing area on the roof of the latest parking garage expansion.
47 ikramerica: Not at LAX. Impossible. Nor SNA, SBA, SAN, LGB. But BUR and ONT, sure. Though not at much at BUR as in the past. I love it an HNL, but it is dependen
48 LDVAviation: If I were being cynical, I would have questioned the association with Architectural Digest and the use of Thom Filicia with his Room and Board aesthe
49 cosyr: Because it's not just about inclement weather in ATL, it is about months of heat and humidity, and cold at JFK.
50 max999: I guess with that logic, Central Park in New York is pretty useless with all its heat and humidity, and cold. Haha
51 Deltal1011man: This Ah so thats normally what Delta trys to do, piss off HVCs. and how do you know Delta wont be keeping to place completely clean? and piss off HVC
52 SurfandSnow: What a great concept. This is the type of thing that may actually lead me to buy the day pass to use the club!
53 mayor: Most business travellers that I see are usually dressed pretty casually, at least on the way home.
54 PanAm1971: I hope it has great views. However I have a feeling Homeland Security might have some objections. Also, I really hate the fact the orginal Worldport T
55 jcwr56: You do have the old public observation deck located (which hasn't been used in over 25 years) in Terminal 2 at ORD. The problem is, there's no elevat
56 aircanada014: I think it has to do with the weather, especially during winter season. LAX won't see snow just rain and sunshine with nice warm temperature. I don't
57 RKSofACinUSA: I see the glass as 'half full' rather than 'half empty'. The inside facilities at many Sky Clubs are not always perfectly kept either but I'd still m
58 cokepopper: Maybe it will have a great view of the demolition of Term 3
59 PSU.DTW.SCE: Amazing how people will find the negative in everything. This is another option for Skyclub members and guests, if you don't like it, don't use it. I
60 cloudboy: You do realize that the weather in NY is not one huge blizzard that starts in mid December and lasts through mid April, right? Yeah there are days wh
61 NYCAAer: Anyone notice the triangular red canopies over the artist renditions of the SkyDeck? A clever but subtle way of having Delta's widget in the design, I
62 mayor: Exactly......I don't believe DL is going to herd a bunch of people outside, no matter what the weather is, no matter if they want to go or not. It's
63 cschleic: ANY kind of outdoor observation deck is a big plus these days. And the JFK T-4 one might have good views of other international gates/planes. Anyone k
64 jetlanta: It's not a question of JFK or LAX! Sure a SkyDeck at LAX would be great too, but thats not the issue. Just because you can't spend EVERY day on the S
65 rwy04lga: The SkyClub in terminal C at LGA has great views of ramp operations.
66 gaystudpilot: Like Sandy Hook... now that's an idea for the new Sky Beach!
67 CalebWilliams: With us locals on a balmy February day, we'd love being outside.
68 airportugal310: So basically, what I see here, is we aren't allowed to disagree with some idea an airline comes up with?
69 SCQ83: I even saw people in terraces in Boston on Sunday!... and it was about 35 Fahrenheit... yet after more than week permanently below 10-0 F. Also DL's
70 questions: At JFK, this could help DL (slightly) close the gap with Virgin's Clubhouse... although it would be nice to utilize the Clubhouse as the business clas
71 jetlanta: What could any person who cares enough about airliners to be posting on Airliners.net possibly disagree with??? If you don't want to go out on it, do
72 cokepopper: Great article in the NY Post today.. ALL "decked" out at JFK Airline's outdoor Jet-view space http://www.nypost.com/Page/Uuid/797fdc62-6aab-11e2-952d-
73 tommy767: Honestly, I realize DL has a major hard on for NYC but I do hope they plan on rain-proofing the deck furniture. Whether you agree or not, NYC gets a
74 mayor: Nobody is saying that. But, this IS a discussion forum, so if you state something, be prepared to get opposing views.
75 jfklganyc: What a great story in the Post. Good publicity
76 max999: Those who keep harping on about the 'bad' weather in New York need to get a grip. None of what Delta is building is anything new except that it's at
77 tommy767: New York has terrible weather. Hopefully DL can keep up with it on the roof.
78 delimit: Are we still posting on Anet? The site where people regularly bemoan the loss of observation decks? And.people are critical? As for NYC weather, it's
79 T5towbar: I think this is a cool idea. It's outside the box thinking, but before 9/11 people could see the planes and all of the activity on the ramp. A lot of
80 toobz: Nobody is forcing anyone to go out in crappy weather. The sky club is still indoors. This is an option for many that would like a little fresh air...w
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