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Aircraft With 20 Pax Onboard Crashes In Kazakstan  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Posted (1 year 11 months ago) and read 13246 times:

Reuters reporting a plane with 20 people onboard has crashed near Almaty .

news.sky.com

Update here :

A plane has crashed in Kazakhstan with six cabin crew members and 15 passengers on board, Interfax reported, quoting local Emergency Ministry workers.
The plane crashed near Alma-Aty, the largest city in the country.

http://rt.com/news/plane-kazakhstan-crash-dead-964/

[Edited 2013-01-29 00:58:15]

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User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From United Arab Emirates, joined Sep 2001, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months ago) and read 13063 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21243203

Not much info here either. no info on type or airline. crew config would suggest 2 pilots and 4 cabin crew then possibly A320 sized aircraft which the local carrier operates or could be AN 72....desperate for more info anyone.

Hoping for the best at this time.....

ALA - Almaty has CAT III B operational runway (23R) but very high terrain on the southern side of the airport 16500ft+


User currently offlinelxlgu From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months ago) and read 13031 times:

It appears to be a CRJ 200 ER - as usual the media have it wrong.
This is the type normally used on this flight but the crew count sounds more like 737
RIP!


User currently offlineflyingbird From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

I have made some investigations according to the information I have found in media.

Media claims it was a flight from Kokshetau (KOV) to Almaty (ALA). There is a flight DV760 scheduled from KOV to ALA at 10:00 -> 11:50 local time. This flight is normally not flown by Boeing and there are no Boeing's visible landing in ALA coming from KOV or with callsign *760 at Flightradar24 today.

According to http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/SCAT-Air they are also flying with CRJ200.

At about 12:40 local time you could see aircraft circling around ALA and diverting to other airports.
http://www.flightradar24.com/2013-01-29/07:40/43.53,77.31/8

My guess is that the aircraft involved was a CRJ200 and that the accident happened between 11:40 and 12:40 local time.

[Edited 2013-01-29 01:58:31]

User currently offlineplanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12617 times:

Al Jazeera English is claiming the crashed plane is a "SCAT Airways, Bonbardier aircraft."
They are also claiming 20 souls onboard.


User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12515 times:

Flightglobal, quoting Kazakh ministry, reporting it as MSN7413

User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12376 times:

Ex Cimber Air CRJ-200. Delivered to SCAT last September.


I can drive faster than you
User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12027 times:

Registration UP-CJ006

Quoting flyingbird (Reply 3):
My guess is that the aircraft involved was a CRJ200 and that the accident happened between 11:40 and 12:40 local time.

It happened at 13.13 LT, flight departed one hour late due to fog in Almaty.

Actually it's really foggy here since yesterday.



[Edited 2013-01-29 04:02:51]


I hate Lufthansa
User currently offlinepvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11958 times:

I guess another CFIT when trying to approach in visibility below safe limits, at least in flightradar other flights indeed seemed to divert so I assume visibility was too below safe limits also when this crash happened?


"A rational army would run away"
User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4298 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10839 times:

Quoting LH648 (Reply 7):
Registration UP-CJ006

According to Aviation Safety (ASN,) the msn of the crashed aircraft was 7413. That means the aircraft involved was a former Cimber Air machine, OY-RJA at delivery, and wore "Team Lufthansa" colors for a while before wearing the Cimber Air house livery until that carrier's demise in 2012.

RIP to those that perished in Almaty.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlinecornutt From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8888 times:

ASN says five crew, 16 pax. Why did they need five crew on a CRJ-200? Did they have one or two deadheading?

User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6902 times:

Sad news. Hopefully the victims didn't suffer and lessons can be learned and applied from this accident. I'll be very curious to find out the results of the investigation since I fly the same type of aircraft.

Quoting cornutt (Reply 10):
ASN says five crew, 16 pax. Why did they need five crew on a CRJ-200? Did they have one or two deadheading?

Possible. Maybe just repositioning. Could also be a check airman in the jumpseat observing, or a flight attendant trainer observing the flight attendant.

Quoting richierich (Reply 9):
That means the aircraft involved was a former Cimber Air machine, OY-RJA at delivery

Really? Anyone reading this that's been around this site for several years just thought of clogs and one of the all time classic non-aviation threads (it's right up there with snowglobes for amusement).
Oyrja And His Women Shoes... (by GKirk Nov 9 2004 in Non Aviation)



It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlinelarshjort From Niue, joined Dec 2007, 1526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

RIP to crew and pax. It is sad to see an aircraft that I worked on less than a year ago crash.
Here is OY-RJA in "happier" times. Sitting in CPH awaiting engines in CPH august last year.



139, 306, 319, 320, 321, 332, 34A, AN2, AT4, AT5, AT7, 733, 735, 73G, 738, 739, 146, AR1, BH2, CN1, CR2, DH1, DH3, DH4,
User currently offlineSpeedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 929 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 11):

Oh yes. I do wonder how he's taking the news.



Never give up..
User currently offlineOYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 78 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

First of all I want to express my depest condolences to the casualties and their relatives.
It's always sad when there is a plane crash.  
When I saw that the aircraft was the former OY-RJA, it made me even a little more sad.
I've had a lot of great experiances with that aircraft, when working for former Cimber Air down in BSL. It was used daily on the 3 trips in each direction, and I had many awesome cockpit flighs on her.

So RIP to the caualties and to OY-RJA.


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