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Iberia New Long-haul Product (Business & Economy)  
User currently offlinefilLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 16922 times:

Iberia will officially present, tomorrow January 31st 2013 at the FITUR in Madrid, its new Business and Economy class products.

However, they have already posted one pic on their Facebook page of the new seats.

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FITUR 2013


[Edited 2013-01-30 12:36:02]

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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2986 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 16219 times:

Old BusinessPlus seats were not particularly bad, but I assume that by now they needed a revamp. Y needs it badly.


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User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 972 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 16026 times:

Hate to say it, but are those the same seats as DL, just a different color? The economy seats aren't that different either save the ear pillows.

User currently offlinemotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 15792 times:

Presumably there will be long-haul AVOD IFE in Y from now on, bringing IB into the 21st century?!


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User currently onlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 15609 times:

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 3):

Yes, the new A330 have IFE in Y (and the refurbished A340s thereafter).


User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15230 times:

The J seats don't look like lie-flat 180°. Much more like 170°. I could be wrong, but both seats shown in the picture look like fully reclined and there is a slope visible IMO.

If that is the case I congratulate them to introducing a J seat other airlines opted for 10 years ago and are on the way out on most airlines. (If 180° lie-flat I am taking that back and really congratulate them. Like a politician, you know... ^^)


User currently onlineSInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15182 times:

So they've chosen the EADS Sogerma 'Solstys' business class product as seen on Thai Airways and Etihad Airways.


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User currently offlinemfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15159 times:

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
If that is the case I congratulate them to introducing a J seat other airlines opted for 10 years ago and are on the way out on most airlines.

Current Business Plus have never been outdated, and they have been lie-flat since 2009 when they decided to remove one row of seats (resulting in more than 70" of pitch).

New J seats are Sogerma Solstys and they are the same as Alitalia new J and Etihad, and they are lie-flat.

Y is a totally different history though.



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User currently offlinemfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15132 times:

Quoting SInGAPORE_AIR (Reply 6):

So they've chosen the EADS Sogerma 'Solstys' business class product as seen on Thai Airways and Etihad Airways.

  

And I don't know any airline who introduced them 10 years ago...

[Edited 2013-01-31 00:50:35]


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User currently offlinemfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 13866 times:

Iberia's new long haul Y seats


Photo of the new Economy Class seats from Iberia's Facebook page.



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User currently offlinemutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 13776 times:

Quoting CARST (Reply 5):
The J seats don't look like lie-flat 180°. Much more like 170°. I could be wrong, but both seats shown in the picture look like fully reclined and there is a slope visible IMO.

You are probably right - on the ground. But in flight with a slight nose up attitude they will be fully flat.


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13284 times:

Quoting mfc (Reply 9):
Photo of the new Economy Class seats from Iberia's Facebook page.

The seats look a bit low, but legroom looks good if that photo is representative?



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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13115 times:
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With the new cabin update, the longhaul cabin crews attitude needs a major revamp and update as well.

User currently offlinemfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12224 times:

I think that the photo is not representative in terms of legroom, pitch will be 31" as far as I know.


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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12148 times:

On board Wi-Fi will also be added soon to the long haul fleet.

Here's the entire press release:

http://grupo.iberia.es/portal/site/g...a4ced8c310VgnVCM1000005ffe15acRCRD



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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12008 times:

Forgot to add, before anyone asks, that these new interiors will only be found on the new A330s as well as in the entire A340-600 fleet (the 346s starting to be retrofitted in May, according to Iberia).

The 340-300s that will remain in the fleet will not recieve the new interiors unless Iberia's management change their decision at a later stage.

Also, mood lighting on both new and retrofitted aircraft is initially going to be installed in business class cabins only.

Regards.

[Edited 2013-01-31 06:38:40]


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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11681 times:

Rebranding??? New livery???? AA, check! IB? (check?), BA next????  .

User currently offlinefilLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10505 times:

More pics  
New Economy Seats
New Business Plus
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New Business Plus


[Edited 2013-01-31 09:17:12]

User currently offlinefilLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10428 times:

new promo video of the seats!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwxlZrmouc


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10349 times:

Wouldn't it make sense to harmonise the IB and BA long haul product more?


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User currently offlineincitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9847 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 11):
The seats look a bit low, but legroom looks good if that photo is representative?

Maybe that guy in the photo is 4'10" (145 cm).  



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User currently offlinemfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9474 times:

Mood lightning only for Business Class? Quite stingy in my opinion.

7 A343s have new Y interiors, the seats are similar to 330/346 new ones but without PTV's, although they have sockets, a huge improvement compared to the old A343s interiors.



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User currently offlinedrgmobile From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 19):
Wouldn't it make sense to harmonise the IB and BA long haul product more?

Absolutely. There should be one product team.

The business class seats look a lot like the ones on Swiss. If so, very good choice.


User currently offlinenostrum From Bahamas, joined Jul 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9056 times:

A330-300. Nice!


User currently offlinefilLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8714 times:

New Business Plus


25 NZ107 : So it looks like CX, AA and IB will have the same/similar Y seats and IFE.. Sounds like a oneworld standard Y seat now!
26 KLAM : If you look closely in this picture, you will notice the new typography for writting IBERIA on the monitors.
27 IBERIA747 : Yes, that's what Iberia has announced. However, they have also said that they're not changing the livery so I say we better wait and see. If you pay
28 mfc : What's your opinion about them? I wonder why they decided to refurbish the old ones instead of getting rid of them as soon as possible. I don't know,
29 qf002 : It's such a shame that BA isn't using these seats on the 787/A380/77W (and retrofitting to the rest of the fleet). They offer far more space/direct ai
30 jumpjets : If they are the same as the SWISS seats then am I right that they are the same as the J class seats on the newly refurbished BA A321 midhaul fleet. I
31 Palmyboy12 : I notice that on the IFE the word 'Iberia' isn't italicised (as is on the normal logo) and the 'IB' logo is missing. The colors also seem different f
32 r2rho : IB Business class was already always quite good and did not need any big revamp, but nice to see anyway. For economy however, the improvement is huge
33 IBERIA747 : Iberia has already given acceptance for MSN1377 (will be registered as EC-LUB) and unless there's a last minute change, it will be delivered next week
34 IBERIA747 : That's exactly what I think. Not only the current Busniess Plus seat is a very good one, but it's still being installed by some first-rate airlines a
35 Viscount724 : Seat pitch in that photo is probably closer to 36 or 37 inches, not the actual 31 inches (reduced from 32).
36 qf002 : TG is using the same seats as IB's new product in their A380 and new 77Ws.
37 Post contains links and images VV701 : Unlikely as BA only launched their current ammended livery with the heraldic crest aft of the main titles in September 2011. Currently only about 43
38 Post contains links and images IBERIA747 : True. My mistake. It's MH I wanted to refer to, but I messed up and mentioned TG instead. Anyway, here are a few images which will clarify what I sai
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