Braniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2602 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11826 times:
Old BusinessPlus seats were not particularly bad, but I assume that by now they needed a revamp. Y needs it badly.
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CARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 705 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 10837 times:
The J seats don't look like lie-flat 180°. Much more like 170°. I could be wrong, but both seats shown in the picture look like fully reclined and there is a slope visible IMO.
If that is the case I congratulate them to introducing a J seat other airlines opted for 10 years ago and are on the way out on most airlines. (If 180° lie-flat I am taking that back and really congratulate them. Like a politician, you know... ^^)
mfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 10766 times:
Quoting CARST (Reply 5): If that is the case I congratulate them to introducing a J seat other airlines opted for 10 years ago and are on the way out on most airlines.
Current Business Plus have never been outdated, and they have been lie-flat since 2009 when they decided to remove one row of seats (resulting in more than 70" of pitch).
New J seats are Sogerma Solstys and they are the same as Alitalia new J and Etihad, and they are lie-flat.
Y is a totally different history though.
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mutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 504 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9383 times:
Quoting CARST (Reply 5): The J seats don't look like lie-flat 180°. Much more like 170°. I could be wrong, but both seats shown in the picture look like fully reclined and there is a slope visible IMO.
You are probably right - on the ground. But in flight with a slight nose up attitude they will be fully flat.
IBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1825 posts, RR: 62 Reply 15, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7615 times:
Forgot to add, before anyone asks, that these new interiors will only be found on the new A330s as well as in the entire A340-600 fleet (the 346s starting to be retrofitted in May, according to Iberia).
The 340-300s that will remain in the fleet will not recieve the new interiors unless Iberia's management change their decision at a later stage.
Also, mood lighting on both new and retrofitted aircraft is initially going to be installed in business class cabins only.
mfc From Spain, joined Feb 2006, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5081 times:
Mood lightning only for Business Class? Quite stingy in my opinion.
7 A343s have new Y interiors, the seats are similar to 330/346 new ones but without PTV's, although they have sockets, a huge improvement compared to the old A343s interiors.
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filLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 41 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4321 times:
New Business Plus
25 NZ107: So it looks like CX, AA and IB will have the same/similar Y seats and IFE.. Sounds like a oneworld standard Y seat now!
26 KLAM: If you look closely in this picture, you will notice the new typography for writting IBERIA on the monitors.
27 IBERIA747: Yes, that's what Iberia has announced. However, they have also said that they're not changing the livery so I say we better wait and see. If you pay
28 mfc: What's your opinion about them? I wonder why they decided to refurbish the old ones instead of getting rid of them as soon as possible. I don't know,
29 qf002: It's such a shame that BA isn't using these seats on the 787/A380/77W (and retrofitting to the rest of the fleet). They offer far more space/direct ai
30 jumpjets: If they are the same as the SWISS seats then am I right that they are the same as the J class seats on the newly refurbished BA A321 midhaul fleet. I
31 Palmyboy12: I notice that on the IFE the word 'Iberia' isn't italicised (as is on the normal logo) and the 'IB' logo is missing. The colors also seem different f
32 r2rho: IB Business class was already always quite good and did not need any big revamp, but nice to see anyway. For economy however, the improvement is huge
33 IBERIA747: Iberia has already given acceptance for MSN1377 (will be registered as EC-LUB) and unless there's a last minute change, it will be delivered next week
34 IBERIA747: That's exactly what I think. Not only the current Busniess Plus seat is a very good one, but it's still being installed by some first-rate airlines a
35 Viscount724: Seat pitch in that photo is probably closer to 36 or 37 inches, not the actual 31 inches (reduced from 32).
36 qf002: TG is using the same seats as IB's new product in their A380 and new 77Ws.
37 VV701: Unlikely as BA only launched their current ammended livery with the heraldic crest aft of the main titles in September 2011. Currently only about 43
38 IBERIA747: True. My mistake. It's MH I wanted to refer to, but I messed up and mentioned TG instead. Anyway, here are a few images which will clarify what I sai
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