martinrpo1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 20345 times:
It looks great! Amazing improvement from previous cabins. AA's new business class looks pretty much like BA's and CX's business classes.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 20277 times:
The first and business class products are very good. The business class is the same that CX uses. I’m not surprised that they avoided showing the 10 abreast economy section.
Quoting martinrpo1 (Reply 1): It looks great! Amazing improvement from previous cabins. AA's new business class looks pretty much like BA's and CX's business classes.
The first class is marginally improved. The business is the same seat as CX, but wildly different from BA.
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jetboytwa From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 379 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 20067 times:
Quoting Atlflyer (Thread starter): Anyone find any photos of the 738 with AVOD that was supposedly delivered recently?
I mentioned it in another thread, but AA is not scheduled to take delivery of any AVOD-equipped 738's until Q4 of this year.
bobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 19326 times:
Quoting jetboytwa (Reply 4): I mentioned it in another thread, but AA is not scheduled to take delivery of any AVOD-equipped 738's until Q4 of this year.
3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16624 times:
wow, how the tide's have turned. Qatar Airways, a Middle Eastern airline has given up its first class and American has added one, never thought I'd see the day.
The Business class looks identical to CX. And QRs is not too far off, but I think QRs looks a loot roomier and a lot better IMHO. I wonder if there's a case of oneworld negotiating together with companies for interiors, it might be a good cost saving strategy in addition to harmonizing the product across the board.
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16320 times:
Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 7): wow, how the tide's have turned. Qatar Airways, a Middle Eastern airline has given up its first class and American has added one, never thought I'd see the day.
AA has always had an international first class, but they are cutting back on it significantly. All their 772ERs (which are currently 3 class) are being reconfigured to 2 classes (their 763s are already 2 class only).
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14486 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2): The business is the same seat as CX,
Ok, good, I thought I was going crazy. I just kept telling myself "I feel like I know that seat very well", since I go to China frequently and prefer CX.
jetboytwa From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 379 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13611 times:
Quoting AA777223 (Reply 9): When does this aircraft officially enter service? I keep thinking it's already happened, but they seem to be dragging their feet.
The first revenue flight is actually tonight from DFW to GRU.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6178 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13466 times:
Looks REALLY nice. Well done AA. Hope to see some of the 763 and 777 refurbished this way as well.
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Rara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 1829 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12053 times:
This arrangement makes me wonder: do people never travel together in business class? The cabin is 100% configured for single travellers... it would be rather awkward to use if you travel with a partner or as a group. Perhaps that's the target market, but it still surprises me.
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usxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 832 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11817 times:
Yeah, definitely show the public how they are gonna squeeze you into the 777.... so that people can AAvoid this plAAne AAt AAll costs.... and the only way is to remind them with your wallet, and of course twitter ^_^
As an Alaska MVP, I am now avoiding AA and focusing all my flying on DL and DL/AS codeshare flights.
ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4658 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11594 times:
Quoting usxguy (Reply 14): Yeah, definitely show the public how they are gonna squeeze you into the 777.... so that people can AAvoid this plAAne AAt AAll costs.... and the only way is to remind them with your wallet, and of course twitter ^_^
As an Alaska MVP, I am now avoiding AA and focusing all my flying on DL and DL/AS codeshare flights.
Coach on a 773 can't be as bad as the tiny seats on the Embrears. But seriously, how is flying on an AA 737, 757, or MD-80 any different from a DL 737, 757, or MD-88?
By the same token, I remember when DC-10s and L-1011s were 2-4-2 in the days of regulation. By 1990, AA, UA, DL, NW, TW, etc had all gone to 2-5-2, and they were using DC-10-30s and L-1011-500s on trans-Atlantic routes. Not to mention that 747s had gone from 3-4-2 to 3-4-3 in coach.
usxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 832 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11082 times:
ckfred,
The difference is you aren't sitting on an MD-80 for 16 hours nonstop. Emirates did their best to keep me out of coach while doing a story for them on their 777.... I was told every excuse as to why I couldn't go back into Economy and try it out and talk with customers, yet had free reign on First Class & Business. Same on the A380. The moment I started playing around in economy once we landed in JFK, the purser did her best to push me out of the plane. I think AA is doing the same thing with the media.
And yes, the seats ARE that bad. They're a bit thinner than the seats on the 757. Airlines have already done a good job of masking the 16.9" wide seats on the 787, but you'll never see me on it.
ETOPS - considering you work for US, aren't you being a bit presumptuous here.... while a merger is probably going to happen, its not there yet. Plus, weren't you with us when they reconfigured our awesome A330s back in 2006?? I swear you were all swearing up and down how they are making the A330s the most uncomfortable plane when they added rows to it. I seem to recall some threads on USAviation....
delta2ual From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 576 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 10674 times:
Quoting etops1 (Reply 15): Be our guest .Don't let the door hit you in ass on the way out
Why do you care? You don't work for AA.
Most people agree with him; 10 abreast seating in Y class is not that great. The First and Business class looks fantastic; I think people will be really happy with it.
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mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31119 posts, RR: 73 Reply 19, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 10619 times:
Quoting Rara (Reply 13): This arrangement makes me wonder: do people never travel together in business class? The cabin is 100% configured for single travellers...
The middle two seats are angled towards each other for passengers travelling together (with privacy curtain that can be raised for those not).
Quoting usxguy (Reply 14): As an Alaska MVP, I am now avoiding AA and focusing all my flying on DL and DL/AS codeshare flights.
And when Delta switch to 10-abreast on its 772s (which it will), then what? 10 abreast is the new normal. People need to get used to it. I don't like it either, but it helps keeps air travel affordable.
Redd From Poland, joined Jan 2013, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 10433 times:
From the perspective of never having flown business/first before I'd love to give it a try. Looks like a great product but the color schemes remind me of bank/financial office conference rooms, very sterile and no color or creativity. That seems to be a trend on most American and European carriers from what I've seen.
With the prices for F & J I'll stick to coach until I can figure out this whole frequent flier business
usxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 832 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9606 times:
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 20): And when Delta switch to 10-abreast on its 772s (which it will), then what? 10 abreast is the new normal. People need to get used to it. I don't like it either, but it helps keeps air travel affordable.
Mark, I strongly believe in the power of social media. If enough people make a stink about it, then hopefully others won't follow.
I only sat in the EK 777W Economy seat for a few minutes, and at first, it felt comfy. Then when you start moving around, and realizing the size of the seat, I realized how uncomfortable it will be for the person next to me. Even cabin pics of ANZ, EK, and AF show some fairly miserable people in Y.
Yet airlines are selling legroom when some of us would rather pay for width. First Class is NO longer just a wider seat, its now a freaking space bed with iShower and iBar.
motorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2760 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9606 times:
Quoting delta2ual (Reply 18): The First and Business class looks fantastic; I think people will be really happy with it.
The First class cabin looks fine until you compare it against that of alliance partners BA, CX, JL, QF and competitors AF, LH, NH, SQ, EK et al (in a long-haul environment). It really looks quite dated and the amount of space allotted to each passenger at the front of the bus doesn't look particularly generous.
mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31119 posts, RR: 73 Reply 23, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8795 times:
Quoting usxguy (Reply 22): Mark, I strongly believe in the power of social media. If enough people make a stink about it, then hopefully others won't follow.
I believe in it too, but it's not going to happen. People aren't going to be willing to pay a premium to fly 9-abreast in coach to make up for the lost revenue/competitive advantage that 10-abreast airlines will have.
Admitedly I've never been in 10-abreast Y, but isn't that seat about as wide as a standard 757 seat?
KaiTak747 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2012, 147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6568 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 2): The first and business class products are very good. The business class is the same that CX uses. I’m not surprised that they avoided showing the 10 abreast economy section.
Yes, almost identical, must be a Oneworld perk! I like that fact that they are reverse herringbone, i.e. face the windows. Otherwise you have to twist yourself round to see the view.
If I had the money I would happily fly business with the new AA.
25 airproxx: Despite the fact that I'm definitely not a huge fan of AA's new livery, this cabin layout looks really great. It seems to be a fantastic product.. I c
26 HELyes: AF 777 seat width is 17", same on AA 777ER... Will avoid that.
27 AA94: I'm really not a fan of 10-abreast. I know it keeps costs down, but I'd pay a premium to fly 9-abreast. Depending on the difference in cost, 10-abreas
28 nasmal: Anyone notice that "Attendant" is incorrectly spelled "Attendent" on the screen?
29 qf002: To weigh in the 10 abreast 777 thing -- I've done it numerous times on EK (including 4 14 hour hops) and am quite broad (but average size otherwise).
30 L1011: I have flown 10-abreast in a World Airways DC-10 and a Delta L-1011-500 right after they got them from United, and they were very uncomfortable. I'll
31 steex: That might raise awareness, but the airline is going to make its decisions based on actual revenues. If they see customers leaving their service beca
32 spacecadet: I've wondered the same - seems to be in fashion now to have business cabins like this. I guess the idea is to keep things quiet, and try to give busi
33 B747forever: I guess that the last picture of the walk-up bar is only for F/J passengers.
34 aacun: Just stepped out of the airplane with my friend Scott whom I thank for saving my spot on the line. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. It looks fant
35 Reffado: 10-abreast Y is one of the reasons why nearly everyone I know tends to choose alternatives to JJ's GRU-MIA route. Same with GIG-MIA I believe. The A33
36 aacun: [quote=Reffado,reply=35][/quote. Ill tell you about it tomorrow. Im in coach!!!!!
37 Reffado: Please do! Hopefully it's not as bad as it looks!
38 questions: Is this the same J seat vendor DL uses for 744 and soon the 332 and 333? The layout looks the same; the details and materials are different.
39 KaiTak747: Yes, AA's new business definitely has the edge over DL. Although the seats are very similar, DL's business class looks quite bland. Yep. That's a per
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