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Nigeria Starts To Clean Up Airplane Graveyard  
User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7485 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 13869 times:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013...jan/31/af-nigeria-plane-graveyard/

Kinda would be neat to see what's dumped there. One could only imagine the creapy crawlers living in those planes.

Wonder which 747 is abandoned in Kano? Wasn't the Hydro Air one that hit a 'pothole'? I think it was scrapped.


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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13649 times:

Aww, why would they do a thing like that?


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User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13596 times:

Breaking up the derelict aircraft is all very well but they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result. Otherwise I can forsee instead of piles of whole planes sitting about the airfields, it'll just be piles of rusting scrap. And I can hardly imagine aircraft scrap metal from Nigeria's hot & muggy climate
commanding the sort of value on the international metal market that old aircraft metal from the dry US boneyards get.
Perhaps they should leave them and arrange a few aviation enthusiat tours around the country to go and see them ! 


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13361 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 2):

Breaking up the derelict aircraft is all very well but they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result. Otherwise I can forsee instead of piles of whole planes sitting about the airfields, it'll just be piles of rusting scrap.

They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!



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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 2):
they will need to have the infrastructure in place to deal with the vast amount of scrap metal that will come as a result.

What does typical happen here? Are there companies that specialize in this field? Does it usually pay for itself or is seen more of a airport cleanup/beautification project?

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 3):
They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!

That may be the easiest solution to pursue. Did not know this but scrap metal is one of the top three exports from the US to China, so sure, it can help stats.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21283101

BBC have also picked up on this story.

The B747 can not be ZS-OOS. That was at Lagos, not Kano. Besides it was scrapped between 2007 and 2009.

Perhaps it is an old Kabo Air plane.

Based on the BBC report, and www.airfleets.net, I think that Bellview B737-200 F-GHXK and 5N-BFX and Space World Boeing B737-200 5N-BGA and 5N-BGB are for the chop.

I suspect that the Benin City BAC 111 will also go.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6852 times:

IMO, the aircraft in the BBC article looks like Nicon Airways Boeing B737 5N-BEY.

Looks like they are chopping that one already.


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2191 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6584 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 3):
They'll probably do what we do with used cardboard: Load it in a cargo container and ship it to China. Helps with your export statistics too!

Nope:
"The dismantled planes would be transported to a steel company in the north-western Kebbi state for recycling into other industrial products, Mr Omeogu said, Punch reports."


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6261 times:

http://web.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...ane-graveyard/?page=2#article-copy

This article refers to at least 1 Air Nigeria aircraft at Lagos, (Boeing B737 Classic?) and a DC8 freighter.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6248 times:

The Photo index shows DC8-63F 9G-NHA of Cargoplus Aviation at Lagos in 2009.

The caption says that it was impounded in 2004.


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7485 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6094 times:

I would hate to see what comes flying/crawling out if those planes when they start jarring them with the scrapping claw!


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Picture of DC8 taken from index.


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5975 times:

No mention yet of the BAC111 graveyard at Benin City.

Other possibles at Lagos include Chrome Air BAC111 5N-UJC, Nigerian Airways Airbus A310 5N-AUF, Fresh Air Boeing B737 5N-BFQ and Allied Air Cargo Boeing B727F 5N-OTI.

However, it is not clear if scrapping has started yet, or if they are still talking about it.


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5916 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 12):
No mention yet of the BAC111 graveyard at Benin City.

I counted 17 BAC-111s and a 727-200 there from a few photos..


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

The bbc article also referred to a Boeing B737-200 that had been impounded about 8 years ago.

No further details were provided, IMO this sounds like 5N-BFQ or 5N-BEE of ADC Airlines.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4864 times:

What about those E-120s sitting there?


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

I have done a bit of digging about the Kabo B747's.

I can find no record of 5N-RRR, 5N-JJJ, 5N-PDP, 5N-PPP or 5N-OOO since 2001.

IMO, 1 or more of these are to be chopped.


User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

Al Jazeera has a really good news segment on this story with an onsite reporter. Take a few minutes to watch the story.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/02/201327164922976277.html


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 17):
Al Jazeera has a really good news segment on this story with an onsite reporter. Take a few minutes to watch the story.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa....html

That was very good indeed!

I certainly wasn't expecting people to be breaking up the aircraft by hand!



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User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Yes and they are finally realizing that maybe having decent airport infrastructure makes a difference.

User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4995 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

It's ironic that we have a bunch of airplanes rotting in Nigeria while the entire country has had its infrastructure rotting away since the British gave it back to the locals in 1961.


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User currently offlinegarpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2649 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

I would love one or two rows of those sets!


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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

Having watched the Al Jazeera report, I made out the following;

Both Spaceworld aircraft, 5N-BFQ, 5N-BEY. I am re checking the aircraft with the blue band accross the tail and 5N-??Z.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7476 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 13):
I counted 17 BAC-111s and a 727-200 there from a few photos.

Okada Air 1-11s that have previously been reported wfu at Benin included 5N-AXQ (December 97), 5N-AYS (April 05), 5N-AYT (April 05), 5N-EHI (January 05) and 5N-ORO (December 97). They may well b e amongst those in the photo. Another 1-11, 5N-OAL of Oriental Airlines, was reported wfu at LOS in May 96 and their 5N-ENO at Owerri in February 05..

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 16):
I can find no record of 5N-RRR, 5N-JJJ, 5N-PDP, 5N-PPP or 5N-OOO since 2001.

5N-RRR was reported as being derelict and being used for spares at Kano on 16 December 05.

The last report I have seen on 5N-JJJ was on a Hadj flight at JED in January 01.

5N-OOO was also reported on a Hadj flight at JED. That was on 22 January 04, three months before it was also reported at ALG on 24 April.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

IMO, the Boeing B737 with the blue band is 5N-BGU.

If 5N-RRR was derelict in 2005, it seems unlikely that it is still there.


25 Post contains links bennett123 : Oldest 747 Still In Service? (by GayrugbyMAN Jul 6 2006 in Civil Aviation) This gives some interesting info about Kabo B747.
26 klwright69 : Has anyone visited Nigeria and see the graveyard?
27 yyz717 : That has got to be the world's largest collections of 1-11 hulls! True. The airport reflects the country, as in so many places. Youtube has videos of
28 bennett123 : tHE Al Jazeera item also included a Boeing B737-200 with a blue belly. The reg looks like 5N-SSZ, but I can not find this aircraft.
29 Post contains images Thomas_Jaeger : 5N-SSZ is an ex-IRS Airlines Fokker 28-4000, c/n 11190, originally delivered to Linjeflyg in Sweden back in November 1982, so slightly older than I a
30 bennett123 : No it was not an F28, but the image was that clear, so I may have got wrong.
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