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DL To Start LAX-SJC  
User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9963 times:

DL continues to build up their LAX presence even on routes with AS/QX on it. It will be interesting to see if they start adding smaller California destinations in the future.

LAX-SJC will be 4x daily CR7 starting June 10th. It is now viewable on DL's desktop timetable.

LAX-SJC
0830-0945
1210-1325
1630-1745
1945-2100

SJC-LAX
0645-0800
1020-1135
1400-1515
1820-1935


With AA and DL both on this route now, what are the chances AS stays on it? They have some strength on the SJC side but it's certainly no hub.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25059 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9959 times:

Quoting FL787 (Thread starter):
With AA and DL both on this route now,

The main gorilla on the route is SWA - with 10-11 flights per day depending on week.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17420 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9940 times:

What's going on here? DL starts LAXSEA, AS increases LAXSEA, DL starts ATLANC (a little late for the summer season) and now LAXSJC. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...


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User currently offlinedeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9920 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
The main gorilla on the route is SWA - with 10-11 flights per day depending on week.

True to that!!

Recently flew DL (or Skywest) from SMF to LAX. Was intrigued on arrival how T5 was a lot of CRJ7's and not a lot of mainline.

Is DL doing okay at LAX? I'm biased as I work in entertainment industry where everyone is all about American on a one sided route to NY (Sometimes LHR) and then VX and now and then a little United (specifically to Asia-sometimes to EWR/ORD). But NEVER hear anything about Delta, ever.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9885 times:

Quoting FL787 (Thread starter):
DL continues to build up their LAX presence even on routes with AS/QX on it. It will be interesting to see if they start adding smaller California destinations in the future.

I keep saying this in various threads, but no one seems to be taking me seriously. Watch for DL to turn LAX into a HUB (a a la JFK)..all the signs are there.

Right now, everyone thinks it is to feed SYD..

DL wants the cornerstones to be NYC, LAX, MIA, DTW , SEA with two connecting hubs (ATL, SLC) in the middle. I know this plan sounds far fetched, esp MIA but does is not risk adverse. We need to look no further than them getting in the fuel business to see that

Perhaps someone can give us a breakdown of what they now have out of LAX
ATL
DTW
JFK
GUA
SYD
SFO
SEA
SJC
CUN
MEX
LAS
OAK
SLC
FLL
Any more?

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:09:33]

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:09:57]


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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9885 times:
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They also just upped LAX-OAK to 5x daily (from 4), LAX-SFO to 12x daily (from 11x), and LAX-SMF to 5x daily (from 4x) starting June 10. LAX-PHX also increased to 5x daily from 4.

Also LAX-LAS remains at 9x daily but will be upgauged to 7x A319 and 2x CR9 (vs the old 4x A319 and 5x CR9).

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:09:13]

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:10:40]

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:18:22]

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32695 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9842 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
FLL
Any more?

MIA, not FLL.



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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9797 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
Perhaps someone can give us a breakdown of what they now have out of LAX
ATL
DTW
JFK
GUA
SYD
SFO
SEA
SJC
CUN
MEX
LAS
OAK
SLC
FLL
Any more?

They don't have MEX; they have GDL instead.

Basically international is:

SYD, NRT, HND,
GUA,
GDL, CUN, and PVR.

Domestic:

HNL, LIH, KOA, OGG, SFO, SJC, OAK, SMF, SEA, LAS, PHX, SLC, SAN, MCI, MSP, DTW, CVG, CMH, JFK, ATL, MEM, BNA, RDU, MCO, TPA, MIA, IND, and MSY

With the latest adds, they should be at about 110-113 flights a day

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:22:25]

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:23:41]

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:45:36]

User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9761 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
Perhaps someone can give us a breakdown of what they now have out of LAX

Mainline
ATL
CUN
CVG
CMH
DTW
GDL
GUA
HNL
IND
OGG
MCI
KOA
LAS
LIH
MEM
MIA
MSP
BNA
JFK
MCO
PVR
RDU
SLC
SYD
TPA
NRT
HNL

Regional
LAS
OAK
PHX
SMF
SLC
SAN
SFO
SEA

And now SJC can be added to the regional list.

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:21:35]


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User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9713 times:

My guess is that AA drops the route. AA already dropped SJC-SNA and SJC-SAN. I'll bet AS/QX stays.

There are now four carriers flying SJC-LAX and one flying SJC-SNA which I thought was always a well traveled route. I'd like to see AS/QX jump into SJC-SNA and give a second carrier on that route. So far, QX has declined SNA slots when they came up though.


User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9679 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
So far, QX has declined SNA slots when they came up though.

I think in part because of SAN and also some other expansions they chose.
With the new terminal, I could see them accepting the slots this time around.



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User currently onlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9679 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
I keep saying this in various threads, but no one seems to be taking me seriously. Watch for DL to turn LAX into a HUB (a a la JFK)..all the signs are there.

Only if they want to lose a LOT of money.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
My guess is that AA drops the route. AA already dropped SJC-SNA and SJC-SAN. I'll bet AS/QX stays.

AA dropped SJC-SNA because it wasnt part of Corner strategy.


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9639 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
The main gorilla on the route is SWA - with 10-11 flights per day depending on week.

Very true and obviously UA is on the route as well. I only mentioned those two because they codeshare with AS.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
DL wants the cornerstones to be NYC, LAX, MIA, DTW , SEA with two connecting hubs (ATL, SLC) in the middle.

I hope you just forgot MSP because I don't think it's going anywhere.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
My guess is that AA drops the route. AA already dropped SJC-SNA and SJC-SAN. I'll bet AS/QX stays.

I don't see AA dropping the route. LAX is an AA cornerstone, SNA and SAN were not.



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User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9611 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 12):
I don't see AA dropping the route. LAX is an AA cornerstone, SNA and SAN were not.

Yeah, but SJC is not. We know that AA has a disdain for SJC. I still vote that AA is odd-man out if the route can't support 4 carriers.

Does anyone know if QX and DL will code share on each others flights?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9576 times:
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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 13):
Does anyone know if QX and DL will code share on each others flights?

DL already codeshares on the QX flights currently.


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32695 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9510 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 13):
Yeah, but SJC is not. We know that AA has a disdain for SJC. I still vote that AA is odd-man out if the route can't support 4 carriers.

An airline that has been successfully flyng the route for 20+ years is the odd man out? Are you kidding me?

AA isn't dropping the route. Would not be surprised to see CR7s come onto it as CR7s likely start moving to LAX when ERJ-175s come into LGA.

[Edited 2013-01-31 14:44:16]


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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9493 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 13):
Quoting FL787 (Reply 12):
I don't see AA dropping the route. LAX is an AA cornerstone, SNA and SAN were not.

Yeah, but SJC is not.

By that logic AA would only be flying between hubs. AS is one of the most successful airlines in the US for a reason and I think they'll see that they're not going to be able to compete with WN for O&D traffic and there will not be enough flow traffic left for them with both AA and DL on the route. I think AS would be better off shifting the Qs to another route out of SJC.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5800 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9424 times:

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 8):

Just for fun I took your list and marked with a star the cities being flown in 1992 by DL/DLConn when the LAX operation was at its peak number of flights of over 200 per day. I used this source.
http://www.departedflights.com/WALAXhub.html

Mainline
* ATL
CUN
* CVG
CMH
DTW
* GDL
GUA
* HNL
IND
* OGG
MCI
KOA
* LAS
LIH
MEM
MIA
MSP
BNA
* JFK
* MCO
* PVR
RDU
* SLC
SYD
* TPA
* NRT
* HNL

Regional
* LAS (was only mainline in 1992)
OAK
* PHX (was mainline in 1992)
* SMF (was mainline in 1992)
* SLC (was only mainline in 1992)
* SAN (was mix of mainline and regional in 1992)
* SFO (was mainline in 1992)
* SEA (was mainline in 1992)
* SJC


Flown in 1992 but currently not being operated:
Mainline
ACA
YYC
DFW
EWR
MZT
MEX
MSY
PDX
RNO
TUS
YVR

Regional
BFL
FAT
IPL
IYK
MRY
ONT
SNA
PMD
PSP
SBP
SBA
SMX
YUM

Interesting to see the change in the LAX operation 20 years later.



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User currently offlineklkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9306 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
DL wants the cornerstones to be NYC, LAX, MIA, DTW , SEA with two connecting hubs (ATL, SLC) in the middle. I know this plan sounds far fetched, esp MIA but does is not risk adverse. We need to look no further than them getting in the fuel business to see that

MIA? Not a chance. DL gets what they need in the S.E. United States and Latin American from ATL. Trying to muscle in on AA's turf in MIA would be about as stupid as AA doing the same thing in ATL.

Los Angeles is a different animal altogether. It's the second largest metro area and no single airline comes close to dominating it. Delta has been successful in recent years at increasing it as a focus city.

In general DL's hub/focus strategy is coming together quite nicely. SLC, MSP, DTW and ATL are perfectly situated to connect domestic travel. In addition all four are fortress hubs which will keep profits high (especially as SW dismantles what little competition they had from AirTran in ATL).

Internationally JFK's geographical proximity to Europe, SEA's to Asia, LAX to Hawaii/Australia, and to a lesser degree than MIA but still formidable ATL's proxmimty to Latin American for about 80% of the country makes DL a strong international player.


User currently onlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3049 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9164 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 15):
An airline that has been successfully flyng the route for 20+ years is the odd man out? Are you kidding me?

No I'm not kidding you. AA flew a lot of routes successful that they've dropped. As I've pointed out before, AA has dropped numerous routes that another carrier comes in and operates successfully, especially AS (PDX-ORD, SEA-STL, SJC-OGG, etc). I'll bet NH does well on SJC-NRT. I can think of a lot of 20 year routes that they dropped. I don't see the market sustaining 4 carriers and I'm guessing from past history - especially with AA at SJC - that they'll be the ones to drop.


User currently offlineatlengineer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9137 times:

Quoting klkla (Reply 18):
In general DL's hub/focus strategy is coming together quite nicely. SLC, MSP, DTW and ATL are perfectly situated to connect domestic travel.

I would also add in LGA for domestic. I think DL flies almost 50 percent of the flights out of LGA to many of the airports in the densely populated NE and connects them to the rest of the network.

ATLengineer


User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20499 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9136 times:

Glad to see DL restart one of their old routes picked up from Western.   


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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32695 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 19):
No I'm not kidding you. AA flew a lot of routes successful that they've dropped. As I've pointed out before, AA has dropped numerous routes that another carrier comes in and operates successfully, especially AS (PDX-ORD, SEA-STL, SJC-OGG, etc).

And? AA doesn't drop routes that are successful for it. The fact that AA drops routes that other airlines may decide to fly instead is irrelevant. LAXSJC works for AA; SJCOGG did not, just like how FLLLAX didn't work for Delta, but it works for AA. Or how SJCAUS became a weak link for AA; and then AS couldn't make it work; but finally Southwest did.

Delta is the weakest link in LAXSJC, not AA nor UA nor AS nor WN.
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 19):
I don't see the market sustaining 4 carriers and I'm guessing from past history - especially with AA at SJC - that they'll be the ones to drop.
AA won't be dropping it. And bookmark this post and revisit it two years from now - AA will still be flying LAXSJC.

If anything, SJC only stands to benefit from AA's domestic route focus right now, which will be centering on connecting major AA elite out-stations - which SJC remains - to more of it's hubs, as we see with upcoming LAXRDU and IAHJFK.

[Edited 2013-01-31 15:51:00]


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User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 936 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9087 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 12):
Very true and obviously UA is on the route as well. I only mentioned those two because they codeshare with AS.

AS code-share with WN and UA? Not in a MILLION years.


User currently onlinedeltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9053 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 17):
Flown in 1992 but currently not being operated:
Mainline
MSY

Delta has between 1-2x/day nonstop service on LAX-MSY. Mixture (depending on the day of week) of A319/A320/737-800 equipment.


25 wedgetail737 : With DL adding the SJC-LAX market, I would be surprised if AS/QX will stay in that market and give the AS passengers to DL. Maybe they'll add that QX
26 steex : FL787 was referencing AA and DL, the two carriers he mentioned operating LAX-SJC in the OP. AS most certainly codeshares with both of them.
27 diverdave : Seems like T5 is reasonably busy these days. Nice job that they held onto it during bankruptcy. Do you know which terminals were in use by Delta at t
28 B747forever : DL seems once again committed to build up LAX. With their 49% stake in VS we might even see LAX-LHR on DL metal.
29 MaverickM11 : I don't know--they're #4 at LAX, which is a tough place to be, especially when AA/UA/WN are unlikely to go anywhere.
30 MSYtristar : MSY has been flown nonstop by DL since '07 or '08. Seasonally it's 2X daily and it's 1X daily year-round. The morning LAX-MSY is very popular with th
31 deltaflyertoo : No, that will never happen in a million years unless something happened to VS. That route is already saturated (much like LA to Tokyo is), why DL wou
32 mah4546 : No. The entire point of the JBA is to use the Virgin brand in markets where Delta otherwise would never succeed/has already failed (i.e. LHRMIA, LHRL
33 deltairlines : Agree - the only markets I can see that VS flies where DL might take over some of the flying are BOS/JFK/EWR. Can't really see anywhere else. With VS
34 PIEAvantiP180 : The same can be said of AA and NYC, smaller then UA and DL but its not stopping them from expanding and competing. LA is large like NYC and if DL can
35 klkla : Really? This was the ENTIRE point? How long ago did DL fly LHR-LAX? I don't remember DL failing on that route any time in recent history.
36 enilria : For far too long they have been losing money flying RJs against WN on the East Coast. It's time to expand that money losing strategy to the West Coas
37 B747forever : What I mean is that DL could operate on of the daily flights on its own metal while VS operates the other one, not adding more capacity. If DL is com
38 jetlanta : Not in terms of revenue. In fact, the AA, UA and DL are only separated by low single digits in terms of revenue share. Its a HUGE market. There is pl
39 FATFlyer : Thanks, I just used Alasizon's list from reply #8 without checking current schedules. T5 and T6.
40 Deltal1011man : Uh.. no uh hub(LAX)-Spoke(SJC) DL has its code on QX, no telling if QX will codeshare on the DL side. How? because they cut back the hub? IIRC MQ alr
41 BoeingGuy : Uh let's see. I can think of two. Smaller airplanes and not part of a cornerstone. Did I guess correctly?
42 Deltal1011man : nope you got it. So basically you want AA to try to be like Southwest? p2p? or do you just care about SJC and have an ax to grind?
43 FATFlyer : See my comment just above your post.
44 Post contains images Tomassjc : Maybe not. Keep in mind that 1 of the 3 QX SJC-LAX flights originates in RNO, the second in BOI, and both carry a significant amount of online thru p
45 HiFlyerAS : I'd love to see this and other creative ideas. AS flew BOI-LAX years ago...maybe a tie-in via SJC and on to GDL, SJD, MEX, etc out of LAX would be wh
46 mah4546 : The revenue data you continue to cite is incomplete and does not include international. It's of no real value, but you already knew that. Uh. Reading
47 Deltal1011man : Wow, I would say something but I'm not going to take a ban, talk to yourself on the reading comprehension. You said DL flew LAX-LHR and it failed....
48 laxboeingman : Is it the same e/q on the flights or are they using multiple planes? Assuming everything runs on time, the schedule could work with one plane. I do no
49 BDL757 : I agree, MSP has a good location and is said to be DL's 2nd most profitable hub.
50 bobloblaw : I'm not sure why AA is the odd man out. DL is increasing overall capacity by what? 15%? Why can AA hold their own against 10-11 WN 737s but 4 CR7s br
51 Deltal1011man : I want to first say that I don't think DL is going to run AA off the route but It could very easily run AA off the route depending on the routes perf
52 yellowtail : based on a 130 departures a day...IHMO DL is rapidly approaching hub status in LAX. While it will never works as a domestic hub.....if DL can slowly b
53 RWA380 : That between DL & AS building stronger ties together, might very well mean, that between the two of them operating several identical key routes,
54 laca773 : What is all this nonsense about DL starting LAX-LHR?? This talk is completely insane, unless this is part of your airline computer program game where
55 rangercarp : Does DL still code share with eagle on SJC - LAX?
56 yellowtail : If Vs is brought into the JV...technically they will have LAX-LHR. I would like to see DL restart LAX-SAL/SJO/MEX..maybe with 319s
57 jetlanta : And the revenue you cite includes what? Oh yes, you never cite any revenue, do you? But let's go with your point that the data doesn't fully account
58 HiFlyerAS : Apologies...I swore AS used to run BOI-LAX as a mainline flight but can't seen to find any record of it. Currently QX is running BOI-SJC-LAX as menti
59 steex : I don't really have any reason to enter this discussion, but Mark said: Notice he included "would never succeed" right before "has already failed." H
60 Josh32121 : AF flew LAX-LHR with the DL code on it right after LHR was opened up to carriers besides BA/VS/AA/UA. It was part of the JV, so while DL technically d
61 tommy767 : For hub status it would be nice to see LAX-EWR and LAX-DFW once again.
62 surfdog75 : Does DL have enough gate capacity to substantially increase the number of flights in LAX if they wanted? Is there a possibility of moving some RJs to
63 LDVAviation : Moving RJ's to another location would mean creating new gates in a facility like Eagle's. Those are numbers that would count against the airport's ga
64 B747forever : Even though the AF LHR-LAX flight was part of JV, we still have to remember it was operated by AF, and not DL. One would think it should not matter w
65 cornutt : Wow, there are some really short routes in this list. LAX-SNA? You'd never see that today... it would take longer for the pax to clear TSA than it wo
66 Post contains images diverdave : All of the Delta codeshares with American Eagle out of LAX were discontinued last year. David
67 Post contains links RWA380 : I found this AS/QX route map from 1992, it shows a line between BOI & LAX, I can not find the matching schedule or OAG, but I think this could po
68 klkla : Again. Learn how to write and people will comprehend what you are saying. You said : 1st - That is not the entire point and in fact has nothing to do
69 BoeingGuy : I'll bet you are thinking of LAX-GEG which has been mainline in the past. AS tried it with mainline jets in the mid-2000s and then QX did it with CR7
70 deltaflyertoo : They can't do LAX-MEX, some Mexican route authority (others here would know better its name) that prohibits only 2 US carriers to fly the route-AS an
71 dlflynhayn : Yes definitely one that route planners in ATL screwed up!! I use to off load that flight almost daily and it was always packed to the gills with carg
72 Alasizon : Whoops, looks like I missed MSY.... There isn't much that DL can go into from LAX that would be a profitable LATAM market that doesn't already have c
73 usdcaguy : Is there any chance of DL starting to service to any of the smaller Mexican interior markets, such as BJX/MLM/ZCL? There must be enough demand from LA
74 deltaflyertoo : Indeed their probably is, but, you have to wonder is such a market "high yielding" and or "lucrative" or the type of pax DL wants? DL and the other "
75 Alasizon : I would think if they wanted to, they would. Unfortunately the pax coming from these areas more than likely are not affluent enough as the post above
76 yellowtail : LAX-SAL was profitable too. IIRC there was an article a few years ago interviewing somebody high up in DL that mentioned that it wasn't that their C.
77 AADC10 : There are probably very few O&D passengers on LAX-SNA. Most passengers are probably connecting to transcon or international flights. LAX-SJC too
78 peanuts : What I find most interesting in threads like these is that DL's abilities keep being challenged yet at the same time DL is making huge strides at chip
79 deltairlines : Exactly. I've driven from a hotel I stay at very frequently (Hyatt Irvine; one exit south of SNA on the 405) and made it to LAX within 40 minutes. By
80 Tomassjc : As of this evening, I'm not finding anything in Sabre or on Delta's website in regards to this new service..... Tomas SJC
81 Deltal1011man : Not its not clear at all. and he is counting AF's fail on LAX-LHR as DL's. (or he needs to work on how he words things) doesn't mean much. Its an AF
82 Tomassjc : Thanks! I'll check Sabre again on Sunday. Tom
83 PIEAvantiP180 : My Android delta app is only showing 3 daily flights instead of 4, is this a loading error?
84 LDVAviation : LAWA doest not count those However, if Delta tried to turn that hanger into a formal terminal (like the Eagle terminal), I don't think LAWA would be
85 Post contains images mesaflyguy : "Which is why I'm kinda shocked Delta hasn't jumped into some smaller intra-cali markets. (ie FAT/MYR/SBA) " Really? MYR? I'm not completely sure but
86 Deltal1011man : but what about the gate loss for the last MQ building? (the box was there then, even though I think UA had moved everything back to T7/8 by that time
87 Deltal1011man : Crap, MRY not MYR
88 laca773 : I'd like to see AS start this too. I think they have a great chance of making of this route being a success. They could start out 4x a week with a re
89 Deltal1011man : Uh what? Delta had up to 3 flights a day to MEX.
90 CIDFlyer : umm, where exactly does their THIRD largest hub MSP fit into DL's plans? They fly MSP-LAX also
91 HiFlyerAS : Maybe at the highpoint but service got really spotty towards the end and unpredictable. I think at one point it got down to one redeye that was not e
92 delta2ual : I agree 100%. I don't see why AA/UA/DL can't all be successful. Each one has strengths and weaknesses. I like this site for learning new information
93 yellowtail : exactly. I would agree. DL did well on this route (just like it does on LAX-GUA now). The SAL economy is doing well and DL would do well to get back
94 RWA380 : I doubt any one carrier will become a dominating force at LAX, I'm not sure any one carrier could get the ground facilities needed to be that large t
95 laca773 : Uh what? Yeah what. They flew this route 3x a day early on after the merger with WA using 733s!!! The last few years the route operated it was flown
96 Post contains links Tomassjc : And this just in, from another thread across the board: "Beginning May 1 Virgin America announced Monday it will offer four daily flights from San Jos
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