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LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia  
User currently offlinejet72uk From UK - England, joined Oct 2011, 102 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11051 times:

Seen yesterday at http://www.routes-news.com/news/item...nnounce-new-long-haul-asian-route. Does not state airline or destination. Thoughts? Maybe an announcement today

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User currently offlinegardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

The answer is here....Garuda! Six time weekly Gatwick to Jakarta non-stop B777-300 service.

Source:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-to-launch-gatwick-jakarta-service


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10577 times:

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 1):
The answer is here....Garuda! Six time weekly Gatwick to Jakarta non-stop B777-300 service.

Source:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...rvice

Was not expecting that!! Great stuff for Gatwick when so many other airlines are pulling out...

Wonder if this is a stop gap until Garuda can nab some LHR slots?



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User currently offlineBaeRJ100 From Australia, joined Nov 2011, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10479 times:

GA doesn't have any 777's in their fleet at the moment, do they have these on order? Leasing? Possible typo?

Edit: Disregard, looked it up and answered my own question!

[Edited 2013-02-01 03:31:29]

User currently offlinejet72uk From UK - England, joined Oct 2011, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10297 times:

GA always did fly from LGW back in the day so they are prob in for the long run.

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10033 times:

Will this be the longest non-stop flight from the UK?? At the moment it's EZE right?


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User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9583 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 5):
Will this be the longest non-stop flight from the UK?? At the moment it's EZE right?

How long will the flight be? SIN is 13 Hours so maybe around 14/14:30 Hrs?


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 2):
Wonder if this is a stop gap until Garuda can nab some LHR slots?

By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.


User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9006 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.

Aren't they joining SkyTeam?



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User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

ANA will also be starting here too however no date has been confirmed yet


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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6877 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.
Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 8):
Aren't they joining SkyTeam?

They are indeed; they're scheduled to join in early 2014.



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User currently onlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9638 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6032 times:

Quoting BaeRJ100 (Reply 3):
GA doesn't have any 777's in their fleet at the moment, do they have these on order? Leasing? Possible typo?

New deliveries should be coming around June of this year from Boeing. The second should come later in the year.



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 9):
ANA will also be starting here too however no date has been confirmed yet

Given JAL never brought back the second LHR-NRT or indeed LHR-OSA and BA's LHR-HND is hardly setting the heather alight do you think this likely? Japan is a tough market and adding lower yielding additional capacity from LGW a la Korean Air doesn't really seem to work.


User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4782 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12):

Korean has pretty good pax loads now from here but they are really making their money on cargo on this route, they are starting flights again in March.

As for ANA, the company I work for have had ground handling talks with them. Would be a 772

While on the subject of Asia, Vietnam will soon be going daily. Thy have very high pax and cargo loads so great to see then doing well here!



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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7378 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4226 times:
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Quoting LGW340 (Reply 13):
Korean has pretty good pax loads now from here but they are really making their money on cargo on this route, they are starting flights again in March.

Which is why you cannot book KE tickets to LGW on their website?!


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2932 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Korean is pulled for good, no more, nada, no return.

I've said this half a dozen times on here, but people still believe they're coming back.

Rgds



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User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

If I remember correctly Garuda used to fly a 747 LGW-FRA-DXB-DPS in the 80s.

I hope they route something like that again as flying non-stop to DPS in a 777 is going to be very painful. Shame they don't have A380s.

Too many uncomfy passengers will surely kill the route.


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 16):
I hope they route something like that again

I don't: short-haul legs as part of long-haul flights are very expensive to operate.



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

If Vietnam are doing as well as you say how come flights ended up routing via CDG and FRA last year? Also as others have said, Korean Air are gone for good, BA's launch of LHR-ICN saw to that.

User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3595 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18):
If Vietnam are doing as well as you say how come flights ended up routing via CDG and FRA last year?

According to routesonline.com there is to be a fifth weekly flight to Gatwick from mid April , being the third SGN-LGW service, so presumably the demand is there to merit the extra flight. Having said that the LGW website continues showing 2 flights per week to SGN for the summer season.

I never quite understood the temporary stop in FRA or CDG but they were described as Technical stops rather than passenger stop off and collect stops.


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18):

This was only for a period of a few weeks, during the traditionally very low season. Don't forget, whilst tourism is booming in Vietnam, It's no Thailand or Malaysia - YET.

Also consider that weather is very seasonal, especially in Hanoi which can be quite cold in winter, and the coastal regions and south which are affected by typhoons and very heavy rains at certain time of the year - hence the CDG/FRA tag ons for a very short period.

I hope one day we might also see a direct UK-NHA or DAD flight, if the airport can accommodate a 777 that is


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Wasn't it for the UK peak summer period? It was a number of months rather than weeks which led me to suspect they were heading for the exit door sharpish. Glad they stayed the course though, awesome colour scheme!

User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3412 times:

sorry I didn't make myself clear - I know the tag on was in summer, not too surprising as that is it generally the best time weather wise - my comment about the Hanoi area really just an example of quite seasonal weather in Vietnam.

I too am pleased the route seems to be doing well - VN also have a fantastic domestic and regional network which I've experience and really enjoyed. Flourishing airline for sure, crappy J class thought - needs to lie-flat.


User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2161 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 20):
I hope one day we might also see a direct UK-NHA or DAD flight, if the airport can accommodate a 777 that is

VN have recently announced a weekly NHA-DME flight so NHA can handle a 777.


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 23):

Ahh interesting. So it's not completely out of the question.
Though I doubt we'd see that for some time yet.

Will GA serve DPS direct or a tag on to CGK?


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