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Irish 2/13: February Made Me Shiver ...  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21647 times:

With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep.
I couldn't take one more step.

Sorry, going back a bit there, for the younger ones among us!

Anyway, back to 2013! Incidentally, did anyone know that this was the year that Marty McFly chose to travel forward to, in one of the Back to the Future movies? I'm still waiting for my flying skateboard!

The big thing we can expect to hear about, either during the course of this thread or the next, is the decision on FR's takeover plan for Aer Lingus; we've said a lot about this and with one or two exceptions, I think the general gist is that we're against it! Only today, the EU has said that this proposal had "one last chance" (although one has to wonder how many last chances it has had!). We wait with baited breath ...

Some good news for SNN, at last, with Flybe flying to GLA and we hope to see Transaero getting the green light for operation on the SNN-MIA run.

We don't expect to see any more t/a route news from DUB, since UA seems to have ruled out DUB-SFO and Aer Lingus has said there will be no new t/a routes this year, but DUB-SFO/YYZ tops its wish list.

We do expect some good news from Ryanair ... it's apparently in the final stages of a significant order for 737-800s; these will be the current model, not the NG; various figures have been mentioned, between 100 and 150. We can but wait ...

So, it looks like being an interesting month ahead!

Here's the link to 1/13, in case anyone wants to refer back ...
Irish 1/13; Brave New World (by kaitak Dec 31 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4160 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21650 times:

In case anyone missed the news from the last thread:

In news that is sure to please many, but perhaps Phil in particular, Swiss will be adding a second flight to their DUBZRH route to operate on Saturdays and Sundays only during the summer peak of late June, July and August.

Hopefully, Swiss is testing the waters for a second daily flight, which they had been rumoured to have wanted to add.

It is certainly significant that we now have IB, TK and LX finally moving towards more than a single daily service.



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User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21575 times:

Slight typo on the heading, I think it should read 2/13: February....

Im still dating everything as 2012.



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User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1594 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21519 times:

The LX and TK increased frequencies are great! You won't see IB increasing frequency as they themselves don't fly to DUB!

I also mentioned towards the end of he last thread how good it is to see BA actively advertising DUB online quite a bit!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21514 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 1):
In news that is sure to please many, but perhaps Phil in particular, Swiss will be adding a second flight to their DUBZRH route to operate on Saturdays and Sundays only during the summer peak of late June, July and August.

Whilst its good to see an increase it is not the amount hoped for. This Winter saw a cut back as other years of flights. The timings for the weekend flight are great for longhaul connections and the return is much better as it leaves ZRH later in the day but I doubt we will see Mon-Fri double daily anytime soon which is a shame. As much as Id love to see it I just dont think the demand is there. Still even though temporary just for the peak season its a welcome move.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4160 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21480 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 3):
You won't see IB increasing frequency as they themselves don't fly to DUB!

IB/I2, whatever they are calling themselves this week. It's still 100% owned by IB!



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User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21460 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 5):

Agreed. IB Express is Iberia in all but name. Same pilots, more or less the same service but just cheaper cabin crew!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21436 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 5):
IB/I2, whatever they are calling themselves this week. It's still 100% owned by IB!

Indeed still Iberia to me too. IIRC you still have all the benefits of mainline IB with Iberia Plus such as lounges/earning and redeeming etc..


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4160 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21417 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 6):
Agreed. IB Express is Iberia in all but name. Same pilots, more or less the same service but just cheaper cabin crew!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Indeed still Iberia to me too. IIRC you still have all the benefits of mainline IB with Iberia Plus such as lounges/earning and redeeming etc..

They are actually better than IB!

The cabin crew actually smile and occasionally even speak to you.



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User currently onlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21251 times:

'Last chance' for Aer Lingus bid

Quote:
Ryanair has one last chance to argue the merits of its latest attempt to acquire rival Aer Lingus, the European Union's antitrust chief said today, as he prepares to decide the deal's fate.

The no-frills carrier is making its third takeover bid for Aer Lingus after the European Commission blocked its first attempt in 2007 and Ryanair dropped its second in 2009.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...ium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Doesn't make it very clear but sounds like even after this there will be another chance for them to come up with concessions!


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21236 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 9):
another chance for them to come up with concessions!

I just wish they were meaningful concessions; it is just like someone coming to your house and saying "I'd like to buy your house and in order to get regulatory approval, I'm going to sell YOUR garage, YOUR fireplace and half an acre of YOUR garden". Not much in the way of concessions from the person who is actually trying to buy the property.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 21115 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
is the decision on FR's takeover plan for Aer Lingus; we've said a lot about this and with one or two exceptions, I think the general gist is that we're against it! Only today, the EU has said that this proposal had "one last chance" (although one has to wonder how many last chances it has had!). We wait with baited breath ...
Quoting kaitak (Reply 10):
I just wish they were meaningful concessions; it is just like someone coming to your house and saying "I'd like to buy your house and in order to get regulatory approval, I'm going to sell YOUR garage, YOUR fireplace and half an acre of YOUR garden".

I think the issue here is that FR are not trying to buy the house from you, they are trying to convince the bank who gave you the mortgage that they will get a better return on investment by selling to FR. And doing whatever they can to dodge the objections of the local residents association.

FR want to convince EI shareholders to sell up and make a quick buck rather than sit there for the longhaul. Shares up to 128 today, could very well be funds buying at 120-128 in order to sell at 130+


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 20983 times:

Just some info on two former EI A330s:

EI-JFK is now AP-BKN of Shaheen Air and was delivered to Pakistan this week. It was previously (before it went to Shaheen Air) VP-BEQ of Vladivostok Avia.

The former EI-EWR is now (and has been for the past 2-3 years) PK-YVI of Batavia Air; unfortunately, Batavia Air went bust this week, so it remains to be seen what will happen to this aircraft. It may well be repossessed ... or end up as part of Jakarta's corrosion corner (which consists of quite a few aircraft!)


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 20930 times:

Interesting that the reason for the bankruptcy was the debt incurred due to the A330 leases.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking...ares-batavia-air-bankrupt-20130131



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20709 times:

In July every Wednesday Arkia will operate DUB-TLV 2245/0605 with a B757. Shame you wont get to see it in daylight hours.

User currently onlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20508 times:

Aer Arann, Lao and Transasia confirm ATR 72-600 orders

Aer Arann Regional has finalized an order for eight ATR 72-600s originally at the Farnborough Air Show last summer.

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...ransasia-confirm-atr-72-600-orders

Nice to see it confirmed, deliveries rumoured to start in May.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20483 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 15):

So I take it the A76s will replace the 4 AT4s and 4 A72s already in the fleet? That'll leave 8 A76s and 4 A75s leaving RE with a refreshingly young fleet!

On a related note, RE has updated its website with EI branding:
http://www.aerarann.com/



Shannon-Chicago
User currently onlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 20471 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 16):
So I take it the A76s will replace the 4 AT4s and 4 A72s already in the fleet? That'll leave 8 A76s and 4 A75s leaving RE with a refreshingly young fleet!

Not entirely, it was said last year that the newer aircraft (-500s) would be gone first as they're expensive to lease but the 42s really need to go.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4160 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 20453 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 15):

I'm surprised they've confirmed it - we sometimes forget that FR getting approval to take over EI would probably sink Aer Arann once and for all.



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User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 20453 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 17):

Keeping the 42's is a good idea because weak routes like KIR, IOM and SEN need this aircraft type in particular IOM and KIR.

Also sunway will be operating a weekly KIR-PMI service between June and September. Air Nostrum will operate it with their CRJ's along with NOC service.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20337 times:
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Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 17):
Not entirely, it was said last year that the newer aircraft (-500s) would be gone first as they're expensive to lease but the 42s really need to go.

Seriously? Many of RE's aircraft are over 20 years old (patricularly the 42s). If not now then when as they must be not too far off their maximum number of flight cycles/hours.



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20318 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 20):
Seriously? Many of RE's aircraft are over 20 years old (patricularly the 42s). If not now then when as they must be not too far off their maximum number of flight cycles/hours.

The supported cycle limit on ATRs is extremely high though - seem to remember reading that it was 75,000 or so. Of course, ATR don't appear to make that public.

The KIR/CFN/GWY/SXL multiple rotations per day will not have helped the cycles though now that I think of it.


User currently offlinenu From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20188 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):

Marty McFly went forward 30 years to 2015 not 2013

Last week during the high winds Dub was using the shorter north south runway . A FR flight from Lanzarote was approaching but then pulled out and flew directly over pier B and on wards towards the city before turning and heading for SNN. The departure to Lanzarote that lunchtime was delayed by a couple of hours. EI flights meanwhile circled for 20 minutes over Cavan and the Irish Sea. Eventually the wind died dwn sufficiently and planes started ysingthevwesterly runway.

2 questions:

In pulling out of the landing why did the FR flight also veer significantly left over pier B?

Did this demonstrate FR was not carrying fuelsufficient to circle like all the EI flights did?



Aer Maighdean abu
User currently offlineIRISH251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 964 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 20017 times:

Quoting nu (Reply 22):
Last week during the high winds Dub was using the shorter north south runway . A FR flight from Lanzarote was approaching but then pulled out and flew directly over pier B and on wards towards the city before turning and heading for SNN. The departure to Lanzarote that lunchtime was delayed by a couple of hours. EI flights meanwhile circled for 20 minutes over Cavan and the Irish Sea. Eventually the wind died dwn sufficiently and planes started ysingthevwesterly runway.

2 questions:

In pulling out of the landing why did the FR flight also veer significantly left over pier B?

Did this demonstrate FR was not carrying fuelsufficient to circle like all the EI flights did?

A go-around is usually carried out on the runway heading before a turn is commenced. How sure are you that the aircraft "veered" as you suggest? In 40 years I don't think I have ever seen an aircraft overfly the terminal buildings at Dublin at low level.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 19948 times:
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Quoting nu (Reply 22):
Did this demonstrate FR was not carrying fuel sufficient to circle like all the EI flights did?

Not at all. perhaps the captain just decided "...lets get to SNN rather than hanging around DUB in case the wind drops..."


25 nu : That's what got me. I was sitting in the old EI B lounge and had just seen a LH takeoff (Hairy to say the least) , was seeing the windows moving with
26 AmricanShamrok : A Delta Air Lines 767-300ER operating flight DL593 (CDG-ORD) has diverted to SNN within the past hour. It's scheduled to continue to ORD at 13:30 so i
27 nu : Why did he/she just decide that and why did the other 7 or 8 circlers not do the same? This was the only FR plane involved btw
28 EagleBoy : Perhaps he didn't think the conditions would improve, perhaps he did have less fuel remaining than others in the hold, (doesn't mean there was any saf
29 shamrock604 : Lanzarote can be a difficult flight in terms of payload. If departing from the sea end of the runway at ACE, there are obstacle clearance issues due
30 IRISH251 : Repair work under way and runway due to reopen circa 1700.
31 Post contains links OA260 : Air India seems to want to tap into some of the Irish market. Dont think they will get much when you think the amount of traffic EK EY get from the In
32 EIBusiness : Arrived in DUB around 17.50 this evening with EI and we used RWY 28. Another very windy period coming up over the next few days as a very wintry Nort
33 Jambost : Always thought QR would make a move but AI is a nice surprise, could they beat EY to be DUB 's first 787 operator? They would need to move fast at le
34 BestWestern : I doubt it - the GSA may be nothing more than trying to sell capacity ex London. However, AI did spend a lot of time analyzing Dublin a few years ago
35 OA260 : The GSA tender maybe for nothing more than a foot in the door and a Nett deal with EI or BA to provide flights via their LHR flights. It may not be A
36 Post contains links shamrock604 : Ryanair offering to PAY flybe to take over Aer Lingus' routes. Desperate much? http://www.businesspost.ie/#!story/H...410615-5218-510f-f83a-7a0dd25220
37 Post contains links and images AmricanShamrok : PK now advertising SNN as one of its UK and Ireland destinations on its website: Originally PK was to use SNN as a transit stop only on the outbound K
38 Post contains links and images ClassicLover : Well people... I am back from Paris and I have just completed my Trip Report on the new Aer Lingus pre-order meals - I had both the new meals (one out
39 Post contains images Jambost : I jumped the gun there, but no doubt good news for passengers looking for a choice of airlines to fly with indirectly. It seems to be getting better
40 Post contains images OA260 : Good stuff Well if they have to transit stop anyway why not pick up pax. With the tender for ticketing and check in desks it certainly means its more
41 shamrock604 : Are PIA going to stop in both directions or just westbound? Might be a tough sale if it's only one way!
42 OA260 : Well if its only oneway then its doomed ! If BA only offered oneway even they couldnt make it let alone PIA! Jokes aside can you see most Irish peopl
43 clydenairways : The way things are going now, i think it's looking more and more likely that EI will end up in O'leary's hands. He is totally determined to see this
44 AmricanShamrok : I was told it was to be one way only with the JFK-LHE/KHI flights nonstop. But this the prospect of offering local sales is unprecedented to say the
45 EIBoston : So I have kind of tuned out of this whole FR/EI takeover stuff. However my understanding was the government were not prepared to see their shares to
46 EagleBoy : The Govt currently own 25%, FR own 29%. The FR offer is aimed at the other 46% of shareholders. The Govt refusal does however mean that FR cannot out
47 Jamie2k9 : FR will never own over 75% so it won't be an issure forcing the Goverment to sell. Lets call a spade a spade EI crew holding and EY holding won't go
48 kaitak : I have to disagree, but not just out of wishful thinking; you have to look at the respect FR has shown to EI's operations with all of the concessions
49 tonymctigue : That certainly would be a cool (if rarely used) route from SNN. If PIA are advertising Ireland as a destination then presumably the flights woll stop
50 clydenairways : Well all of us know the concessions offered are not viable but the point is he will keep making more and more of them until a point is reached where
51 EagleBoy : Again it appears to rest on the EI shareholders relationship with the EI CEO and his team. If they believe in his track record and trust he will deli
52 Post contains links shamrock604 : I think "Ryanlingus" is about to become reality folks! http://www.businesspost.ie/#!story/H...410615-5218-5110-aed9-c63335630553
53 Post contains images OA260 : I doubt it and in fairness that article is a bit of a mix of other articles I have read over the last few days . 2+2 equals 5 and all that . Lots of
54 shamrock604 : I hope you are right Phil. I dont like flying with either Ryanair or Flybe to tell you the truth. BA, sure, i'd fly them any day.
55 EIBusiness : This is undeniably a final attempt at the achievement of a personal crusade long yearned for by MOL. When we talk about the Board at Ryanair - yes th
56 shamrock350 : Do we really expect BA to make LGW-Ireland routes work while they wait for FR to get 75% of EI? They might have quite a long wait for those LHR slots.
57 shamrock604 : These "competitive remedies" are seldom any good anyway, and I think the commision know this. When Cityjet bought VLM, the EU intervened due to concer
58 EIDL : How high would FR's spending have to be on a proposed new bid (as remember, not only was the "existing" bid withdrawn, it was at 1.30 - which is curre
59 Post contains images OA260 : In fairness BE are not too bad I have never really had a bad experience on them apart from a weather related cancellation and a few techs on their ru
60 Post contains images EIBusiness : LOL! Thanks! 'Down south we had some heavy snowfall overnight and into this morning with some squally winds making for blizzard like conditions! EIBu
61 Post contains links tonymctigue : Hardly sounds like an airline recently described as "going nowhere" Aer Lingus operating profits rise by 40.7% http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...
62 Post contains links OA260 : Some more good news for Aer Lingus : Aer Lingus has reported an 8.2% increase in revenues for 2012, while operating profits before exceptional items j
63 Post contains images EagleBoy : Well the bid was valued at E694M, add another 100M to pay BE. I read it in the initial bid offer that as the offer was under 50% value of FR it does
64 Post contains links ctrl_alt_del : Anyone know the background to this? http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1198356 Asking price?
65 Post contains links keegd76 : Belfast Telegraph reporting that Flybe has agreed with FR to take on 43 of EI's short haul routes http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...nairs-aer-lin
66 Post contains images OA260 : If the EU approved a deal and if a sale was ever to take place which is highly unlikely.
67 VFRonTop : Ok, im going to admit it, I'm really not understanding this. Can someone explain to me what is MOL looking to get out of EI? - He doesn't want the LHR
68 shamrock604 : There's the thing - he cant crush EI in the normal way. God knows, he's tried. He's gone up against them on almost every European route, and EI still
69 clydenairways : He doesn't really need/want anything that EI has. I can imagine he is convincing some of his own shareholders on why he is doing this would be someth
70 Post contains links Jambost : Rumour on other thread that BHD could be one of 3 new routes to be served by KL. KLM To Add 3 More UK Destinations In 2013? (by Pe@rson Feb 4 2013 in
71 Jamie2k9 : It is not possible for EI to codeshare with KLM at BHD. KLM have a 2 routes per country rule and Ireland have EI at DUB and ORK and BE in the UK. Bel
72 Richcandy : Don't they still code share services with KQ and AF between UK and AMS?
73 Post contains links shamrock321 : Just noticed that there is now an Aer Lingus source offering information about Aer Lingus ops! www.lingussource.com Quite surprised at the high amount
74 Post contains links and images Jambost : Did not not know that, thanks for filling me in. An e-jet could work well for them on the route, has BE ever attempted AMS from BHD? That I do know N
75 Post contains images Dublinspotter : Hi I think it may have something to do with the wings that are being mbuild by bombardier in Belfast for the c- series, I was told for the first few a
76 shamrock604 : I'm actually drooling at the thoughts of the C series! There's some pics on line of the first few aircraft. A great looking plane!
77 AmricanShamrok : Given the vast KL UK route network, maybe they are also looking at adding an Irish destination or two? Whether that means operating DUB and/or ORK on
78 shamrock604 : Just had a listen to Mueller on Newstalk. He compared FR's Flybe proposal to selling crack in a school playground where the first dose is free. I must
79 kaitak : There was mention on another site of a winter lease of an A330 for charters to the Caribbean and elsewhere (wonder if they might give CPT a go?) This
80 OA260 : KLM BHD I doubt that very much.
81 ClassicLover : That site doesn't work... ?
82 Post contains links shamrock604 : I sometimes have to ask myself if MOL is actually serious when he pens this crap: http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ryana...s-uk-apd-tax-costs-jobs-and-g
83 Post contains links shamrock350 : Here's the link, http://www.thelingussource.com/ Seat maps and all! Very interesting site, thanks Shamrock321! I knew they did quite a few charters o
84 Post contains images ClassicLover : I also like the comment in the Aer Lingus announcement - "becoming the anchor tenant in the new Terminal 2 at London Heathrow as of 2014," Thank you I
85 Jamie2k9 : This winter and last winter EI have expanded there charter services from DUB and LGW, a very good way to utilize aircraft when they are not doing sch
86 Post contains links EagleBoy : I was listening to the podcast this morning...when asked about the FlyBE/E100M offer he responded with a statement asking does it make sense to offer
87 Jambost : Unfortunately it seems to be just 3 new unserved UK destinations. Maybe KL are happy with EI 's partnership and seen a gap in the market in BHD that
88 Jamie2k9 : Then it will probaly be Thomas Cook but in TCX Scandanavia. Thomas Cook and TUI are the only tow major European operators.
89 OA260 : I would maybe look towards England .
90 BrianDromey : The FR bid is looking increasingly desperate and transparent. this bid is about one thing, killing the only airline that has successfully competed wit
91 Richcandy : Hi Does anyone know when EI are likely to have their winter (2013/4) schedule loaded on their website? Thanks Alex
92 IRISH251 : The site is not an official one so I am not clear how those can definitely be said to be charters. The "2" prefix used to mean an extra section on a
93 OA260 : I remember the ATH charters they were linked in with USIT in Dublin many moons ago. It was B737s then.
94 shamrock604 : The 747's were also used on many charters. I flew to LDE and LPA on EI 747's back in the 1980's, and countless times down to AGP on 737's mainly from
95 EIDL : I've been horribly delayed checking in in LGW of a Sunday morning due to a skiing charter to GNB before, not that long ago either. Every single passen
96 Jamie2k9 : Should be up during March/April
97 Post contains links and images IRISH251 : This 747 flight was indeed arriving from Lourdes: EI-ASI Boeing 747-148 by Irish251, on Flickr
98 EagleBoy : DUB twitter page just updated. DL to JFK, UA to EWR as well as all EI flights to JFK and BOS cancelled tomorrow. Due to the big winter storm they got
99 AmricanShamrok : UA24 EWR-SNN operated overnight but the return UA25 did not and that aircraft is parked remotely at SNN now. Also both BA flights through SNN (BA1, BA
100 Post contains links and images OA260 : Also N14107 is parked remotely at DUB :
101 shamrock604 : From last to first - it seems the new AA/US will now become Dublin's largest US airline. The combined carrier will offer Chicago, New York, Philadelph
102 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : United Airlines flight UA935 (LHR-LAX) was diverted to SNN today due to smoke in the flight deck. The 777-200ER operating the flight landed at SNN at
103 Post contains images dergay : EL AL = Every Landing Arrives Late - you'll see it in daylight!
104 shamrock604 : It's Arkia though, who seem to be a tad more punctual. In any case, if its a 2245 dep from Dublin, arrival in Dublin will probably be around 2100 or
105 tonymctigue : Is it just my imagination or does it seem that there have been alot of recent diversions to SNN lately as a result of smoke in the cockpit/cabin?
106 dstc47 : Came across this set of photos mentioned on another thread. They are from the golden age of interesting aircraft and of less restricted airport access
107 Post contains links PenPusher : Excellent find, surprised we did not get it sooner. www.zoggavia.com is the home page.
108 AmricanShamrok : Update on the UA 777 grounded at SNN - it was due to depart to LAX today as flight 1749 at 11:00 but was subsequently cancelled. Another UA 777 will b
109 AmricanShamrok : UA1760 finally departed at 12:09, over an hour late. Ryanair is to increase frequency on the ALC-KIR route for the month of July. The service will ope
110 shamrock350 : Aer Lingus Regional's SEN-DUB route will be operated by a Dublin based aircraft from April 1st and result in the closure of the Southend base. The fir
111 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Arann extends Aer Lingus franchise deal until 2022 Adds DUB-BHX and MAN from this summer. Also plans to increase frequency to EDI and GLA. http://
112 Post contains images clydenairways : Good news. Still waiting for LPL
113 ClassicLover : Interesting. Manchester is 3 x daily from Dublin with A320s at the moment, looking at June. I wonder what the aircraft will do instead? It looks like
114 shamrock350 : It seems Aer Lingus is remaining at 3 x daily so Manchester will become 5 x daily overall, turning up the pressure on Ryanair I think.
115 BrianDromey : With plans to double passenger numbers over the next 5 years, it would seem that imminent arrivals will augment, rather than replace much of the curre
116 Post contains links tonymctigue : Another small but welcome boost to SNN's outlook for 2013 'Ryanair increases Sun flights this summer from Shannon' http://www.shannonairport.com/gns/a
117 bx737 : It has just been announced on Today FM that FR have been told by the EU that they will not get permission to take over EI. MOL has said they will appe
118 Post contains links clydenairways : http://www.businesspost.ie/#!story/H...410615-5218-511a-363c-3a7513934076 Confirmed. And a huge sigh of relief for everyone. But this is not the last
119 Post contains links EagleBoy : http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/rya...ir-lose-aer-lingus-792571-Feb2013/ http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...land-worried-about-heathrow-slots/ "L
120 Phen : So again this saga has effectively just been paused only to return soon for yet another round. How many more times can this cycle run?
121 EI564 : The European Court of Justice is not going to over-ride the decision. If even people on the street can see that Ryanair's bid made no sense, I can't
122 OA260 : Yes but I doubt it will be overturned. The people with the power know the game FR are playing. Good news for Irish aviation. I would have been surpri
123 Phen : Let's hope so. With any luck EY will come and take the government's stake now.
124 tonystan : I am so relieved by today's news as are so many of my friends employed by EI. I don't doubt that this is not the end of it however I do feel Aer Lingu
125 Post contains links BrianDromey : While I beileve the decision is the right one, this appeal will not be about the decision per-se, rather about how the decision is reached. It is qui
126 kaitak : Absolutely! Yes, indeed; I wonder if the ECJ can impose a fine on FR for vexatious or time-wasting legal action; the thing is, the strategy seems to
127 dstc47 : Amen. One wishes that Ryanair would use their talents otherwise. This one may run as long as the Shannon stopover debate. P.S. Rather amusing "Pope M
128 EIDL : The amount of people predicting that FR will now kill EI by price dumping is hilarious. They've tried, they've failed. EI are at this stage pushing FR
129 ClassicLover : Really? Do you have any information to back any of that up? Just out of curiosity... I've often found the fares on both airlines are either substanti
130 EIDL : EI often are cheaper, just for some reason not in the public's perception. I haven't flown FR in three years but I still check prices to make sure I'm
131 OA260 : You know I can totally understand where you are coming from . FR thought it would be able to down EI by their years of tricks but it all seems to hav
132 shamrock604 : Routes where FR have had difficulty competing include Aberdeen, Stockholm and Prague. EI remain decidedly larger on Brussels, Paris, Frankfurt, Madrid
133 kaitak : I think it is down to the load factor level FR needs to make money with a 738. That's about as closely held a commercial secret as the Coke formula (a
134 Post contains links OA260 : I wonder how this will be received ? Aer Lingus has told unions it is halting payment of all wage increases, including increments, until the long-runn
135 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Well it's official - AA and US are to merge. I wonder what impact this will have on Irish operations over the medium term (PHL-SNN, PHL-DUB, CLT-DUB,
136 Jamie2k9 : CLT-DUB is currently on very thin ice, its proform or get axed. 2013 is the last chance, season has being cut again this summer slightly. PHL,JFK,ORD
137 OA260 : Dont think it will be a huge change in terms of routes. Just we wont see the US Airways livery anymore.
138 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : FR is to increase frequency on STN-NOC to 2x daily on Fridays and Sundays for the summer season. http://www.irelandwestairport.com/utility/news_detail
139 Pe@rson : It is easy to calculate an airline's breakeven load factor (BELF): in its simplest form, it is CASM/yield, where CASM is total expenses / ASMs, i.e.
140 EagleBoy : Nice comparison..... I think the EI results stated average revenue per pax of E98. Would be interesting to see the same figure for CityJet, BA, EZ
141 Post contains images ClassicLover : Very interesting information - you always post some good stuff with facts to back it up. Always enjoy it so keep it coming
142 Pe@rson : You could do it for all of them BUT it wouldn't be fair for BA or EI given they have long-haul services and premium passengers. And don't forget that
143 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : From the horse's mouth - the A72s and AT4s are to be replaced by the A76 deliveries: http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinfor...sfromireland/regionalflee
144 EagleBoy : Funny how they announce it now. I heard about this 10 days ago. I wonder were they hoping to make the announcement in a different light? Thanks for t
145 shamrock604 : This has been in the pipeline for ages. It was actually reported on line a few months ago, but didnt receive much attention. I'm sure it was indeed o
146 EIDL : FR have had staff in other locations beyond the airport for an age - seem to remember some on Conyngham Road for instance? Think they needed a bigger
147 bx737 : That was Ryanair Direct. This was a call centre which had a lo-call number and offered the cheapest Ryanair fares. I remember working in a travel age
148 EagleBoy : Oh the horror!!!!
149 bx737 : I know, no Internet.....we had to go to the Aviation Society of Ireland meetings once a month in Wynns hotel to keep up to speed with aviation news i
150 Post contains images kaitak : I remember it well - and Shell House in Hatch Street, before that! (I think we even had a meeting in Liberty Hall at one stage!) It was great to catc
151 Nibog : Never knew that !!,and I was a member for years,in fact i still have copies of Aviation Ireland,I have just pulled one out and see a photo of EI-JFK
152 bx737 : Unfortunately ASI has fallen by the wayside, I have quite a number of their mags, including a those with articles written by me. They had a great maga
153 DavecFlyer : Folks, Does anyone have an address or number for a complaints department at Aer Lingus? The website doesn't list one... I've just been booted out of G
154 Toulouse : DaveC, As they constantly forget to add my points (despite my doing what I'm supposed to to have points automatically logged), I always directly conta
155 DavecFlyer : Toulouse - thanks - been through them already and to no avail. I queried my balance in December and was told 1,800 with a year end of end -Feb 2013. I
156 Toulouse : Wow Dave, I'm a huge supporter of EI but that is awful customer service. I know this may be an obvious question, but did you talk to them by phone whe
157 DavecFlyer : That is the galling thing - I have it on email and signed and everything by one particular person who now won't acknowledge the mistake. Just keeps r
158 ClassicLover : Yes, they tend to be okay generally for simply things. What I don't get is that this far into having the Plus Fares, you still need to claim all your
159 OA260 : Indeed Ive close to given up their IT and back up customer service with regards to these issues are terrible. Its such a shame as at the airport itse
160 Post contains images Pe@rson : This bit sounds like Dave Carroll's experience with his guitar on UA. And we all know what did. I'll look forward to your creation going viral.
161 Post contains images ClassicLover : They do indeed, they're all exceptional. Sure looks like it! I know - they didn't pre-board or anything. The microphone cut out part way through the
162 irishbean : Re the serviceair staff at Dublin , I have used BA 4 times over last 3 months, from Dublin connecting onto a first class ticket in LHR, the staff are
163 ClassicLover : Oh my god, that's deplorable!
164 OA260 : Well if it was not in a friendly joking manner it is certainly not how a customer should be addressed. The problem with Servisair is that they have a
165 shamrock321 : Quite sad to hear about the BA and Servisair problem, as I used to work for them but now the other! I wonder if it's a case of the staff not been givi
166 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed I have noticed some of the older faces with experience in T2. Maybe they have moved the Crème de la crème to cover the EY contract or simila
167 AmricanShamrok : Today's RE3673 EDI-SNN flight has been diverted to ORK for some reason...due to arrive there any minute now. Not sure why though, winds are calm and F
168 BrianDromey : Wonder if it is a technical problem with the aircraft, or possibly a crew issue. AFAIK the EDI flights (certainly on a SUN) are operated by ORK aircr
169 AmricanShamrok : Say no more - crosswinds...which is strange as I'm 30 minutes from SNN now and it's completely calm. I had a friend on board who said they attempted
170 shamrocka330 : Anyone know why there's a Lufthansa A340 parked at the B pier in DUB now?
171 EIBusiness : The relevant leaders in Customer Service, IT etc. are all aware of this issue now with over 8 months, right up to Executive level. Being honest - I t
172 Post contains links aerdingus : It was arriving from YYZ, & I think it is to do with crew hours after an incident. More info here: Lufthansa A340 At YYZ: Engine Smoke (by JAGfly
173 EireRock : I see Orbest has recently fallen into some financial difficulty, as far as i know they were due to operate Summer charters again this year at DUB. Any
174 clydenairways : I'm sure there is plenty of capacity within the EU to fill in the gap at short notice, though i hope Air Contractors pick up the business through the
175 OA260 : Tour operators such as TC still have them loaded in as IWD flights for the likes of PMI etc...
176 keegd76 : As some of you may already know, a BA 744 (G-CIVS I think) flew into BFS on Friday on a training flight. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get any photos
177 EagleBoy : If it was a training flgiht then it will probably not show up on the normal BFS arrivals list. But as always dedicated spotters have access to or cont
178 Jamie2k9 : Thomson are most likely to take most of the Orbest flights, they will probaly base a second aircraft again this summer but another operator will be ne
179 DavecFlyer : Well folks - bit of an update on this situation. Thanks for all the personal messages btw. So while I was pondering my next move I've received an ema
180 Post contains images OA260 : Seems like the usual case of getting past the ''computer says no'' red tape ! Anyway at least your sorted. Let the stress begin in another 11 months
181 Post contains links and images OA260 : Still hard to get used to Aer Lingus at BHD but great to see. Some diversions to BFS and cancellations this morning due to fog at BHD. One flight oper
182 Post contains images Dublinspotter : Hi It is great to see EI at BHD, I hope they get the chance to expand more, and hope they stay at BHD unlike WW, who were there for a matter of months
183 Jambost : Green shamrocks really do stand out in BHD, long may it last! Hope to see some atr's operating there soon. Beyond their control really as LH sealed th
184 kaitak : JetBlue has filed with the DOT to expand its relationship with Aer Lingus: "JetBlue and Aer Lingus propose to commence free sale codesharing on April
185 Post contains links clydenairways : Lots of stuff about it in here. http://ec.europa.eu/competition/sect...sport/reports/airlinecodeshare.pdf 3.25 In a “freesale” code-share arrangem
186 EIDAA : Morning all, I ended up on one of the former BMI mid-haul A321s last night on the BA 842 from LHR to DUB. Although I was down the back this time, I mu
187 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : EI is to formally move in with B6 at JFK T5 on 3rd April. They will likely share Gate 14 with HA. B6, EI and HA will be T5's sole tenants: http://fina
188 EIBusiness : This is a direct result of the significant disruption to the standard northern hemispheric pattern currently taking place over Northern Europe and th
189 EIDL : Multiple people on another forum claiming that EI are to wet lease (but provide cabin crew on) 757s to keep SNN US routes going this winter. Very inte
190 AmricanShamrok : That would be great if true. EI have been increasingly edging towards expanding winter transatlantic ops from SNN with a shorter downtime this year.
191 nightfox365 : Would these 757's be painted in EI colours? Or just be left in the livery of their owner and just have EI titles? This is of course, if the rumour is
192 irishair98 : Multiple people on another forum claiming that EI are to wet lease (but provide cabin crew on) 757s to keep SNN US routes going this winter. Very int
193 Ire2008 : Ive heard contrary, that they are definetly NOT leasing any 757s and specifically stated NOT. I didnt even know it was on the table!
194 shamrock604 : I've heard it too, and from 3 good sources. 3 to be wet leased apparently, but with EI cabin crews.
195 clydenairways : The pilot unions would be up in arms if they wet leased in THREE long haul aircraft. Surely they only need one to keep SNN TA services going? Lease r
196 EagleBoy : Well I have read the discussion on boards.ie. It stems from 1 poster claiming that his mates works in the leasing company. Looking at is logically it
197 tonymctigue : I think that is EI are seriously considering ordering the A321NEO for thinner routes (i.e. transatlantic from SNN and perhaps some select destionatio
198 ClassicLover : Even then it doesn't have to "turn a profit". It may generate traffic and at the least give the executives concrete figures. It might be unprofitable
199 goldcrest : goldcrest From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 145, posted Tue Apr 6 2010 12:34:41 your local time (2 years 10 months 3 weeks
200 EagleBoy : Is that you Christoph?
201 eicvd : EI 757's? I'll believe that when I see it!
202 tonystan : The EI routes for the Novair winter charter contract have been announced with one A330 operated by EI pilots but Novair cabin crew flying from CPH, OS
203 Post contains links kaitak : Two Irish related incidents yesterday: At GLA, an Aer Arann/EIR ATR72 aborted takeoff due to a blown tyre and had to be towed back to the apron: http:
204 Post contains images OA260 : Aer Lingus have updated their smartphone App. Very nice new design and a few more features. Works faster and also now a low fare finder bar grid for s
205 Post contains links OA260 : Interesting to watch developments on this . If BFS is sold it will either make or break its future. Since the major carriers are now at BHD I wonder i
206 Post contains images shamrock604 : Got to love the high standards of fact checking here: "Abertis acquired Belfast International Airport, which deals with around 12 million passengers
207 Post contains links and images OA260 : Indeed. Maybe new blood would be able to shake things up and negotiate better. See EI using some obvious play on words against BE
208 Post contains images ClassicLover : Including a font change for "whybe"
209 EagleBoy : I'm surprised at this.....EI are usually more cautious with their marketing......
210 EIDL : BE just actively conspired in an attempt to take over and eradicate EI - I think the gloves are off here.
211 shamrock604 : Indeed, it's a rare bit of bitchiness from EI on their advertising! There's also a reference there to punctuality which also seems quite pointed give
212 dstc47 : Could be interesting this. There has also been a lot of disatisfaction with the way Cardiff Airport has been operated also, and it probably has a bit
213 Jambost : I do not believe much will change, but U2 should prepare for a possible FR invasion. BFS will always be home to NI's long haul network which potential
214 Post contains links and images keegd76 : If you accept it as accurate then the passenger numbers for BFS for the years '97 to 2010 (quoted on Wikipedia) never even reached 5.5 million let al
215 shamrock350 : It's been a while since they last mentioned a competitor in their advertising, the last time I remember was the Gatwick base and the TV adverts stati
216 shamrock604 : Yes, Easyjet poked similar fun saying EI's claims of low fares were just hot Aer. Plenty of Flags in East Belfast alright, lol! But two flag carriers
217 Post contains images OA260 : LOL.. quite good also. Some airlines really do have some good slogans for their adverts. Currently I like the Air Asia one ''Cheap enough to say, Phu
218 shamrock604 : LOL! I'd been waiting patiently for someone to do something with that name..... Good. Flybe have stayed quite static at BHD now for ages, and have ne
219 BestWestern : If anything, the FlyBeIreland concept is a further reason for EI putting a further nail in their coffin.
220 Post contains links kaitak : Our next thread is open for business: Passports open on the photos pages; rows 20-31 to board first ... Irish 3/13: Winging It ... (by kaitak Feb 26 2
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