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Strange AA 757 With Markings Covered At BOS  
User currently offlinebizjet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 19147 times:

Just saw a strange AA 757 land at BOS on 33L and taxi to a Terminal E gate. The plane was clearly in the AA livery (old one) but the American title at the front and the AA logo on the tail were poorly covered up.

According to FlightAware this was N648AA from ROW.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...A/history/20130201/1700Z/KROW/KBOS

What's the deal with this plane?

27 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineUA735WL From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 19066 times:

I would guess that it is a delivery flight to a European or Asian customer with a stopover at BOS. Can anyone with information elaborate?


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User currently offlineDLD9S From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 19045 times:

Next stop is KEF. Didn't FI just pick up some extra 757s? KEF could also be a fuel stop, of course.


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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3010 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 19053 times:
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Think it might be going to Icelandair.

Several have already


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25544 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 18982 times:

AA has not used 648 since January 2012 when it was put in storage.

Your link shows its headed to Keflavik, so looks like US Bank has found it a new home.



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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3010 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 18607 times:
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Iceland registration reserved as TF-ISM

User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 17908 times:

It was a tech stop enroute to KEF. Icelandair was operating the ferry flight but under the N-number I suppose until paperwork goes through at Iceland.

User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7039 times:

I haven't seen many AA B757s at LAX as I used to lately- would this be part of a larger fleet drawdown, or have they just moved them to elsewhere in their network?

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6809 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 7):

I haven't seen many AA B757s at LAX as I used to lately- would this be part of a larger fleet drawdown, or have they just moved them to elsewhere in their network?

It's probably the result of several 757 retirements, coupled with the influx of 738s capable of doing 757 missions that the MD80 wasn't capable of, e.g. transcon. It could be your imagination as well, AA has gotten rid of a handful of 757s, but nothing large scale.



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User currently offlineDLD9S From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6738 times:

Just out of curiosity, why the need to taxi to a gate if no passengers are on board? Are there no other places to refuel and change crew?


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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

From Skyliner:

Boeing 757 -223 24606 379 TF-ISM Icelandair delivery 01feb13 ROW-BOS-KEF, N-reg ex N648AA



- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6639 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
It's probably the result of several 757 retirements, coupled with the influx of 738s capable of doing 757 missions that the MD80 wasn't capable of, e.g. transcon. It could be your imagination as well, AA has gotten rid of a handful of 757s, but nothing large scale.

Well yes, it is partially a coincidence of when I've been visiting LAX, but I was wondering if there had been any schedule changes in general that could also result in fewer 757 flights there.


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6505 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 11):
Well yes, it is partially a coincidence of when I've been visiting LAX, but I was wondering if there had been any schedule changes in general that could also result in fewer 757 flights there.

None that I know of. There may be one or two seasonal Hawaii flights that could account for a difference, but probably not enough to notice.



PHX based
User currently offlineNWAROOSTER From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6381 times:
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This aircraft appears to be a 757 that American Airlines rejected the lease on last year along with about another dozen or so 757s that American rejected the leases on while in bankruptcy.   

User currently offlinecornutt From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5859 times:

I presume it will get interior renovation, and of course a livery change. Does Icelandair have the facilities to do that? If not, where will they get it done?

User currently offlinejetfixr757 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2006, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5361 times:

Quoting DLD9S (Reply 9):

The fuel hydrants are set up for fueling aircraft at the gate. Depending on the fuel agreement.


User currently offlinejcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day ago) and read 5165 times:

Hard stands at KBOS do not have access to fuel pits for hydrant fueling. Only gates. Hydrant fueling is faster than fueling from a truck.

User currently offlineicelandair75w From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Hello All!

I was doing operations for this flight. Fuel stop midpoint ROW-BOS-KEF as you have all already seen and pointed out. Was on the ground at gate E8A for about an hour or so while we got the crew some pizza  

To be registered TF-ISK, and should be ready and configured by approximately April or May. Will be used only for Europe flights as it is a non-ETOPS aircraft.

Will be painted in 1 or 2 months in NWI.

Cheers!


User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1452 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Just curious. Is this non-ETOPS status due to non-ETOPS maintenance standards or a technical reason for this frame?
And if is due to maintenance standards how long does it take to become an ETOPS aircraft?


User currently offlineSRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Is this an ex-TWA bird?

User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 7):
I haven't seen many AA B757s at LAX as I used to lately- would this be part of a larger fleet drawdown, or have they just moved them to elsewhere in their network?

LAX has approx 85 mainline departures perday with approx 25 being the 757 variant. Thats a pretty big chunk of the operation. I've seen more 757s on DFW-LAX lately than in the past. It used to be S80s but there are only 5 S80 departures these days. The 738 is filling that role now with 35 or so departures.

Quoting SRT75 (Reply 19):
Is this an ex-TWA bird?

No, those have been gone for many years.

N737AA


User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1027 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 18):
Just curious. Is this non-ETOPS status due to non-ETOPS maintenance standards or a technical reason for this frame?
And if is due to maintenance standards how long does it take to become an ETOPS aircraft?

This airplane was never set up for ETOPS flights. It doesn't not have a Hydraulic Motor Generator, or Dual Fuel Cross Feed Valves and various other systems and requirements for ETOPS operations.

David



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User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1452 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Thank you David for your explanation.

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3083 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

Quoting icelandair75w (Reply 17):
To be registered TF-ISK

Skyliner says TF-ISM

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3



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User currently offlineexFWAOONW From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

Quoting jcarv (Reply 16):
Hard stands at KBOS do not have access to fuel pits for hydrant fueling. Only gates. Hydrant fueling is faster than fueling from a truck.

If it's just a ferry flight, why do they need to rush the fueling?



Is just me, or is flying not as much fun anymore?
25 jcarv : The handler preferred a gate and one was available so the Port Authority accommodated them.
26 Post contains images icelandair75w : I had requested a gate for faster fueling as there was a forecast for some severe winds and weather closing in to Iceland in the early morning Saturda
27 mjoelnir : Are all three non ETOPS?
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