Flyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 430 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
In the late 70s early 80s all Taranspac flights from Australia went through HNL because the 742's did not have the range of a 744 now adays plus because Hawaii being a State of the US, thats where we did customs then up to the gate again for the last leg onto LAX or SFO and comming back was the same, we came home via HNL. Now with the 744,77L, 77W, and A380 they have the range to do Australia US non stop. Most of the flights that leave LAX for Australia, New Zealand and in fact most of South East Asia leave in a block from LAX from around 10.30 onwards for the morning conections from Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Auckland with NZ. When Continental flew to Australia it always went SYD/HNL/LAX and the Melbourne flights from LAX stoped in HNL and Auckland then on to Melbourne. I can remember my very first trip to the US in the Christmas period in 82/83 my Auntie and I flew Air New Zealand and we went SYD/AKL/NAN/HNL/LAX and that was in a 747-200 at that time they were prety new, as not long before that NZ stoped using the DC-10-30s.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7819 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2345 times:
ANZ did AKL to LAX back to AKL nonstop with 742's. Nonstops to SYD were flown with 747SP in the 1980's primarily by Pan AM and United. Qantas did fly 747SP's but could only operate a limited nonstop schedule with only 2 airplanes. QF went totally nonstop when they received the 744's.
AusA380 From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 295 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
I recall my first flight on the Transpacific in about 1985 ex LAX back home to Oz going LAX, HNL, NAN, MEL. I remember a huge fuss at HNL to beat the CO DC10 flight out as both stopped at NAN and there was only one refuelling truck available in the early hours of the morning so who ever got in first got to Oz on time, the other was late!
A few years later (~1987/8) did the SYD-LAX on a UA 747SP (I remember it well as the aircraft went "us" ex LAX was late in to SYD, didn't do the SYD-MEL (where I was based at the time)-SYD leg, went "us" again in SYD and only just managed to beak the evening curfew to depart for LAX (originally due out around lunch time). Missed out connections to SEA, with more delays - a very long trip from MEL to SEA.
OA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5154 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1765 times:
Yes many of the flights between the US and Australia transited HNL until the arrival of the 744. While PA, QF, and UA did fly nonstop, QF at least did still fly at least one LAX-HNL-SYD rotation alongside the nonstop.
Quoting transtar (Thread starter): I have been reading about United flight 811, which experienced the cabin door opening incident. It transited HNL around midnight.
UA 811 was actually flying HNL-AKL when the cargo door incident happened.
Yes, very common. Almost all mainland-South Pacific flights left HNL around midnight. It maximized connectivity at both ends. Daytime flights have few connections at either end. And if daytime flights are delayed extensively you may not be able to land at SYD due to their strict night curfew.
Flyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 430 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
I can remember doing the Pan Am LAX SYD/MEL flight on an SP flew out of LAX in the middle of a thunder storm very bumpy part of the ride through the dinner service, went to sleep and remember waking up to a full moon over the Pacific and a very smooth flight all the way to Sydney. Great aircraft the SP was. All my flights from LAX except for Continental Flight in 92 left LA around the 10.30/11clock mark at night. The CO flight left LA @10.30 in the morning 2 hours late and causing us to miss our conection @ Honolulu so we had a great day in Honolulu unexpected but great, then flew out of HNL just after midnight that night. Ahh all this talk about flying the Pacific I think I need to get back to LA .
glbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 579 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
I did LAX-SYD-MEL and back on a UA SP. Was in F of the day, which at the time was pretty impressive. Aside from the food (3 meals) and 6 movies (shown on a single cabin screen), the only thing I recall were the water lines freezing up around 15 hours into the flight and being told that wasn't unusual on that route. That and the leg between SYD and MEL. We pretty much had the plane to ourselves.
There's a lot of similarity between running the 747SP on that route and the A345 between LAX and SIN.
brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3786 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1304 times:
They were still stopping in HNL in the 90's but because the code sharing flights were allowing airlines to only send their aircraft to HNL and transfer passengers to another airline while still on the originating airline ticket. I remember travelling on CP and transferring to a Qantas aircraft for the rest of the way to SYD.