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Did ME Had To Abandon CedarMiles To Enter SkyTeam?  
User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Any info on that? How the dispute with AF has been solved? Thank you.

Vietnam Airlines, Tarom To Join SkyTeam Next June (by LIPZ Nov 5 2009 in Civil Aviation)#79
http://www.mea.com.lb/English/CedarMiles/Pages/AboutCedarMiles.aspx

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User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

ME hasn't abandoned CedarMiles- I am a member and the programme is highly regarded.
It is very efficiently managed and the redemptions can be excellent.



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User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 1):

Yes, i know it is a great program, but i remember AF making pressure on ME to abandon it.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Quoting Tupolev160 (Reply 2):
Yes, i know it is a great program, but i remember AF making pressure on ME to abandon it.

Yes, they did, but AF/KL changed their minds.


User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Yep- they didn't abandon it.
I would say that the cedar miles programme is superior to the other airlines- hence why ME did not want to get rid of it.

Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?



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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?

All the them have their own frequent flier program except Tarom and KQ , who are both part of Flying Blue.


User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):

...and among other airlines that entered an alliance, or that rule is for Skyteam only?


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Is ME the only carrier to keep its own Frequent flier programme in Skyteam?

What do you mean? Doesn't DL, AF etc still have their own programs?


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Quoting Polot (Reply 5):
All the them have their own frequent flier program except Tarom and KQ , who are both part of Flying Blue.

FlyingBlue is the common frequent flyer program for 4 SkyTeam members:
Air France, KLM, TAROM and Kenya Airways
It is also the program of some further non-aligned carriers like Aircalin.

All other SkyTeam members have programs of the own.

The only other big example where a lot of airlines within an alliance share a frequent flyer program is Miles & More, which serves:
Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, Brussels Airlines, LOT, Croatia Airlines, Adria Airways (all Star Alliance), plus the non-aligned members Luxair and Air Dolomiti.



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User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

So if other Skyteam carriers have their own personalised programmes, why was it an issue for Skyteam to
get ME to discard their own programme? I imagine that there must have been some talk of integration to
allow people to redeem miles on other member airlines? Perhaps this was the issue rather than ME having
to completely abandon their scheme.



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User currently offlinefpetrutiu From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

RO used to have their own, but changed over once they become part of SkyTeam. I am not sure if they had to or not, but it is acctually better on Flying Blue for international travel.

User currently offlinebrightcedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Gladly ME still have their own program! They award more miles for a given flight than if you put it toward your AF account.

A pity they don't allow children to be members though.



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User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Just read on their facebook page that they might be starting a summer season Berlin service
Presumably with A320s. Interesting!



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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 9):
So if other Skyteam carriers have their own personalised programmes, why was it an issue for Skyteam to
get ME to discard their own programme? I imagine that there must have been some talk of integration to
allow people to redeem miles on other member airlines? Perhaps this was the issue rather than ME having
to completely abandon their scheme.

My guess is this is your answer:

Quoting brightcedars (Reply 11):
Gladly ME still have their own program! They award more miles for a given flight than if you put it toward your AF account.

In general, Skyteam frequent flyer programs are not very generous (or in some cases, not anymore). Have a look on FlyerTalk sometime, where AF/KLM's program is decried as Flying Poo and Delta SkyMiles are sometimes referred to as SkyPesos because they are worth a lot less than they used to be before Delta started handing them out like candy to credit card customers and frequent shoppers.

If Cedar Miles really is that attractive, then perhaps other airlines were worried about people jumping ship to MEA's program if it offered a viable, more generous alternative within Skyteam.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11667 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
FlyingBlue is the common frequent flyer program for 4 SkyTeam members:
Air France, KLM, TAROM and Kenya Airways

It is for Air Europa too.


Dan  



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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):
It is for Air Europa too.


Dan

I keep forgetting them! Thanks.



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